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1941  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New s9 upgrade thread. Some info is 🆙❤⚡ on: November 29, 2021, 12:20:55 AM
Phill. Can you check in with these guys? Are they still selling? Did they change the moq and price? I lost thier contant.
1942  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 1246 Amp draw on: November 28, 2021, 05:29:10 AM
I have 10 machines, with a partner and the other day we burnt up some lines coming in from the grid.   When my electrician checked the amp draw on each hot line it was 15 amps.  That means the machine was using 30, which is way over their specs.    Do you guys but regulaotors in or just run each machine on its own 20 amp breaker.  Thanks for any feed back

Miners and almost everything that works with electricity is rated at W and not amps unless the voltage is specified then it's wrong to use these amps readings, the Avalon 1246 draws 3420W -5%~+8%, so at worst it's 3,700w, there is no way it would use 30 amps unless the voltage is 123V, but then you said your guy measured it which mean you are suggesting that miner was indeed running at 123V which isn't possible as the PSU would shut down at that voltage.

What is the voltage you are using on these gears anyway?

Finally and most importantly, if you managed to burn the line coming from the grid, it's likely because your main breaker size is way too large, it should be smaller than what the wire can handle so that it will trip before the wire gets too hot regardless of the voltage, also if the ends aren't tight enough that is just a recipe for disaster.


1943  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 28, 2021, 05:01:04 AM
Can confirm .top addresses for mining work, .net address for main web site legit.
Just had an auto-payout go through as normal.

Same here, nothing unusual, the .net website was posted in their official Telegram group which I know is legit because I have been there long before this mess, and the payout (just about an hour ago) went through with no issues.



I noticed something strange happened earlier on, which could be a bug in cgminer!, at one point and out of a sudden, some miners went offline (not showing on either pools), about 20-30 of them, I thought there was an issue with the electricity or something, but when I accessed them via anydesk, everything seemed fine, but all pools (including cksolo which is the secondary pool) were showing dead on those miners, but cksolo was showing alive on the other miners.

When I added the new stratum link on the primary pool (viabtc) the miners started hashing and ckpool was showing alive, I know ckpool was good the whole time judging by the other miners, I just didn't know why those miners failed to connect to ckpool when viabtc went offline for a brief while.

of course, I didn't bother investigating the matter any further, I just used Awesomeminer to change the primary pool on all miners pointed to viabtc to the new URL viabtc.top, and everything started working just fine.

On a side but related note, Binance pool seems like the only Chinese pool that was prepared for this, hashrate was safu.
1944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summer dip?!, December price outcome? ---> JOIN and guess the price GO! on: November 28, 2021, 12:20:07 AM
Let's get back to 10x.. since that is such a lovely number.. think about 10x from here and we would end up having BTC prices going from $55k-ish to $550k-ish.. and how long would be consider for that to be reasonable to play out?  1, 2 or 3 quarters?  For me, 2 quarters seems doable...

I hope you are joking, I was going to ask if you meant "years" and not "quarters", but then even that doesn't change much, because $550k BTC in 2 years is just ... wishful thinking, even the very generous S2F model is predicting 550k  by Q2 of 2025, I am as pretty bullish on BTC I just think that having unrealistic and unsustainable predictions serves no purpose.


We closing in on the DATE....

WHo's the favo Huh??

hmm

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224. $42,042 Hhampuz
225. $43,000 Globb0 (second part)
226. $43,210 o_e_l_e_o
227. $44,444 BTCLiz
228. $45,666 STT
229. $46,464 Icygreen
1945  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 259 blocks solved! on: November 27, 2021, 04:20:44 PM
I could point it at a pool and make $33 a day but this just seems more fun. I suppose my main question is before I purchase anything, I wanted to verify if there would be any compatibility issue pointing an S19j Pro at the solo pool. I read the history of this and the previous thread and there were a few mentions of Bitmain issues.

Appreciate the input!

Maybe it was a different pool? anyway, it will work just fine, but do you really want to gamble with a 10k worth of $$$ + the power bill on solo mining? the hashrate is too tiny for a block and kind of too much to gamble with, I just hope you are aware of the odds/risks and all that.
1946  Local / التعدين / Re: جديد ومحتاج مساعدة في التبريد on: November 27, 2021, 12:45:36 PM
جزاك الله خير على الرد

صناديق مخصصة تساهم في عزل الصوت و الحرارة  اين اجد هذه المواقع وتكون موثوقة د ف
لقد بحثت كثير واكثر المواقع تقبل الدفع بالعملات الالكترونية فقط وهذا غير امن

يمكنك صنعها بنفسك ولن تكلفك ربع الثمن الموجود في هده المواقع, لقت قمت بتصميم بوكس مشابه لهدا في الماضي عندما كنت امتلك جهاز ماينر واحد https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YTW0PGOYb0

الفكرة بسيطة جدا ويمكن صنع الصندوق من اي نوع من الخشب الرخيص, ويمكن وضع اسفنج على جوانبه ان اردت, من تم تصنع به فتحة كبيرة وتخرج منها خرطوم duct تجده في اماكن بيع مستلزمات المطباخ والمطاعم وفي العادة يبعاع بالمتر, وفي نهاية هدا الخرطوم تقوم بتركيب مروحة شفط مثل هده

https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Blower-Ventilation-Certified/dp/B077492C4C/ref=sr_1_34?keywords=duct%2Bfan&qid=1638016489&sr=8-34&th=1

ستجدها ايضا متاحة في السوق المحلي, وضيفتها سحب الحرارة من الصندوق واخراجها للشارع, ستحتاج ايضا واحدة اخرى مثلها في خرطوم الدخول.

هدا مثال اخر https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqAw1LgyW0M

بالنسبة لمروحة الشفط قد لاتحتاجها ان قمت بوضع ماينر واحد داخل كول صنودق وكان طول الانبوب قصير نسبيا, الامر يعتمد على درجة الحرارة الغرفة بالدرجة الاولى, لذلك سكيون عليك ان تقوم بالتجربة بنفسك.


بالنسبة لتبريد الماء او الزيت تحتاج الاتي
-مبرد سيارة (راديوتور)
- سائل غير موصل للكهرباء (سعره غالي نسبيا وهوا اغلى جزء من النظام) اعتقد ال 20 لتر يصل سعرها لي 100$ في حال استخدام سائل ذوء جودة ممتازة
- اي حوض غير مسرب للماء مثل فريزر تالف او خزان حديد او بلاستك
-مضخة لسحب الماء من الحوض وضخها داخل المبرد لتبرد وتخرج من الجهة الاخرى وتعاود الدخول الى الحوض

طبعا ميزة هدا النظام ان درجة حرارة الماينر ستكون منخفضة جدا جدا , الصوت الوحيد الذي سوف يخرج من المبنى هوا صوت مروحة مبرد السيارة وهدا الصوت ليس عالي نسبيا.

وهده بعض الامثلة

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nysdh3FKObc

طبعا يمكن الاستغناء عن مبرد السيارة واستخدام مبرد اخر بمراوح اخرى مثل الفيديو, ولكن الامر في النهاية يعتمد على عدد الاجهزة والمناخ و و.




1947  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 27, 2021, 01:11:51 AM

This is more good news makes stacking sats easier to do.

uppity is when it is hard to stack sats.

But doesn't lower BTC price means BTC denominated electricity gets more expensive?

of course it does get more expensive, this also somehow helps with suppressing the difficulty rise to a certain extent, which means, more sats to those who don't have to leave, as for right now:

Anyone who mines with anything that is less effienct than 60w/th and pays 20c or more is mining at a loss and will probably shut down pretty soon, those with 10 cents are good all the way to 30k, so I see no major impact coming soon, the only expectation would be the overclockers, overclocking makes your mining gear a lot less effienct and when prices fall like this, it makes sense that many folks will want more efficiency.

But keep in mind that I have seen many people include the power bill in their initial investment, it is like they pay the power bill upfront and then don't even bother if their miners are currently mining at a loss or not, so really the effect of price on difficulty is rather complicated and hard to predict in the short term.
1948  Local / التعدين / Re: جديد ومحتاج مساعدة في التبريد on: November 26, 2021, 11:36:12 PM
لايوجد اي طريقة فعالة لكتم الصوت لدرجة تحمل صوته داخل المنزل او مكان العمل, كل الطرق المتاحة هي فقط "لتقليص" شدة الضوضاء ليس اكثر, لذلك يجب عليك سرد بعض التفاصيل, مثل مكان اجهزة التعدين, هل يه في القبو؟ ام في غرفة ما في المنزل؟

ايضا المشلكة الاخرى ان الاجهزة التي تمتلكها ردئية جدا وذات جودة سيئة, وايضا لايوجد لها اي فيرم وير خاص بتبريد الزيت او الماء على علمي وهدا سوف يزيد من تكلفة العملية.
1949  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 26, 2021, 10:27:17 PM
I signed into the .net site

may be legit

I will attempt to withdraw to coinex

It is, they put an announcement in their telegram group saying:

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If you can not access the ( viabtc.com ) or App, please use the altenative domain name ( viabtc.net )

We will send you the detailed official announcement via email later this day.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Note: Kindly note that your mining or payment won’t be affected as long as your hashrates are valid.

and previously they posted the following:

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Do not panic if you can not access the ViaBTC Web or App, we are currently working on this issue. Hopefully, it will be fixed later this day.

Kindly note that your mining or payment won’t be affected as long as your hashrates are valid.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.


It's funny that they expect everyone to be on telegram, they should have sent out emails right after this shit happened, anyway, mining is going alright, heck, this is less scary than my experience with Poolin a while back, the pool was working just fine but my hashrate was showing zero.

1950  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 26, 2021, 01:55:41 AM
My rigs  kept mining, everything looked good, until I rebooted my wireless, then every one 'could not resolve host name"

Wondering if yours continue to mine, and if they really are mining?


Do you mean you rebooted your router? Well if you did so then it explains why they can not connect anymore as explained in my first post.

Yup except for the 2 gears that rebooted the rest kept mining with no issues, in fact the app worked for a while a few mins back and the hashrate was showing pretty normal.
1951  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 25, 2021, 09:54:40 PM
Probably by the time you read this it will all be fixed, but its been going on for a while now, not sure how much its affecting mining or just access to the web sites.

To most folks, it's probably just the website, out of nearly 200 gears I got running on Viabtc only 2 switched to the secondary pool because they were rebooted by awesomeminer for having "sick asics", the rest are unaffected and 0 seconds time on the backup pools.

The miners that switched to the secondary pools now showing Viabtc "dead", it will probably go away if I reboot them but I want to see what happens, so my guess is that if the miner wasn't rebooted during these DNS issues -- no issues, someone who runs a pool like Kano probably knows what could have been the problem, why are the previously connected miners running fine, and the ones that are negotiating for a new connection aren't.

Anyway, one should always be prepared for such a scenario, the back pool needs to be in a different geographical location.
1952  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Explain to me how to start mining in the newbies way. on: November 25, 2021, 09:04:59 PM
Your question is very general, nobody has the answer for such a question, the general information is available on Google, you need to at least spend a few hours reading about mining and then once and if you have a very specific question -- come here and ask.
1953  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 25, 2021, 01:29:41 PM
I will share it when its ready, and if its allowed here. Any thoughts?

Not that the decision is mine, but to me, as long as the main focus is on BTC difficulty then it deserves to be here, if NotFuzzyWarm doesn't agree (which I doubt given how reasonable he has been in managing this topic) you can always start your own topic.

1954  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 24, 2021, 10:08:33 PM
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P.S. My post got deleted, I dont know why, I'm new here but I'm open for guidance on what I did wrong.
Considering I have not yet needed to delete any posts in this thread (my thread and self-moderated) it had to be one of the Forum mods that did it.

What did you post: Clickbait links? Suspicious links? Duplicates of posts in other threads? Any of those will attract the attention of the Forum mods.
As Phil said, ja this thread and area is primarily for discussion of only BTC but--I have no problems with posts regarding shitcoins as long as the primary focus of the post deals with BTC.

I am pretty sure a BTC maximalist reported it and the mod didn't bother reading the whole post and simply deleted it for containing words such as "ETH", although anyone who read the whole post would see that the main focus of that post was regarding BTC, the idea is this "altcoins like ETH keep breaking ATH in terms of diff, BTC's diff isn't, so it's likely that gear manufacturers are focused on making alt gears which is why bitcoin diff isn't spiking as fast as it could/should", I believe his post is

1- Good quality.
2- Right on topic.

But ya, shit happens, if you want to know "why" was your post deleted you can always post in meta, here, I found your deleted post thanks to LoyceV > https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5851/58515243.html
1955  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: some errors on my m32s miners on: November 24, 2021, 12:16:11 AM
another question...
how can i remove miner log or pool log?

What do you mean by "remove"? you can clear the log by rebooting the miner, but then it will start filling based on the current status of the miner, the miner logs resets at every reboot, the pool log stays there forever until you reset the miner or/and flash a new firmware.
1956  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 23, 2021, 09:58:16 PM
Is it possible that this is due to their better efficiency in making usd/kwh, and that there is actually a greater power shortage than chip shortage? This goes in line with opinion that ASICs are actually siting idle, rather than being scarce.

I believe it's a combination of both, your theory is valid tho and phill has pointed that out a while back, altcoins mining gears make a lot more money than BTC mining gears when power is the only factor, but this can't be the only reason, because even the manufacturers that are not known to be making altcoins mining gears and focused mainly on BTC gears aren't making enough gears.

Power shortage is real and people are having a hard time getting their gears hosted, just to give you an example, in one of the major hosting groups today, I saw a few folks looking for 1MW+ hosting, the total is around 23MW, in return, only 11MW was offered, price is 6.25c per KWw, when I saw that I was like damn that's cheap, but then he said "customer pays capex" which means you need to pay for the transformer, container, and all the wiring and whatnot, so ya, finding a place to host your gears is pretty damn hard.
1957  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hosts are dropping like flies... or at least dropping me on: November 22, 2021, 01:09:07 AM
Sorry to hear the bad news that was brought to you.

Guess that's just the nature of the business. But when I made the investment in the miners I did not consider the fact that if profitability goes up too far, these hosts will drop you as soon as possible so they can utilize their own capacity. And once you get dropped, good luck finding any place to host your 1 gen old miners in a bull market.


I admire your knowledge, I have always been skeptical about the hosting business for many reasons, this one you mentioned being on the top of my list, and then you got nearly the whole world facing power shortage and increased gas/oil prices, it makes things even worse.

By the way, this isn't just you, it has been the "trend" on telegram, many people are facing issues with various hosts all over the globe, I saw someone looking for a new home for a 1000 miners he had somewhere in Russia which the host can't host anymore.


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I'm already researching immersion cooling since I know the noise will be an issue.

That sounds like a plan, maybe someone should start an " immersion cooling" dedicated topic where we all can collectively collect information about suppliers, the Dos and Don'ts of immersion cooling, and whatnot, something like the difficulty topic we have, let me know what you think.
1958  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S19j Pro 104TH/s --- not reachable on: November 22, 2021, 12:34:27 AM
Finally it's Hashing!! It is indeed funny but network cable was the damn problem or maybe my IQ was. Thanks Mikeywith

Gave your first forum merit for reporting back, since most people just vanish after getting their issues fixed.

I know it's funny, it's too basic that I myself almost always forget to check it, sometimes we go as far as changing PSU/Control board before checking something so simple like a network cable or a loose ribbon cable, I don't think this has anything to do with your IQ, it's just how human beings are, we over complicate small matters way too often.
1959  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 21, 2021, 09:56:58 PM
wander if an honorable judge will declarer who Satoshi is in the near future

I think you are talking about Craig Wright case, many "fools" believe that the judge will declare him as Satoshi and that BSV will overtake BTC and all the hashrate will move there, what most people don't know is that case has nothing to do with the identity of Satoshi, the judge will either make CW pay Kleiman half of the alleged 1.1M BTC (which we all know he has no access to), or the judge will dismiss the case and the Kleiman family loses, regardless of which way it goes, no judge will declare who is/isn't Satoshi.

Besides, the only way for anyone to declare himself Satoshi would be to sign a message using the address from the Genesis block, even if every judge in the world declared someone as Satoshi -- it will change exactly nothing, and bitcoin and its mining won't be affected by all of that nonsense.


Anyway, to follow up on my previous post, here are some interesting reads


https://thediplomat.com/2021/11/kazakhstans-power-shortages-crypto-miners-and-geopolitics/
https://eurasianet.org/kazakhstan-to-restrict-crypto-miners-amid-power-shortages
https://cointelegraph.com/news/we-are-the-number-two-crypto-miner-in-the-world-and-we-see-practically-no-financial-return-says-kazakhstan-president-tokayev

Kazakhstan is the second-largest mining hub according to the latest Cambridge study, with 18% of the total hashrate, many Chinese moved there after the ban in China, sadly for them (luckily for the rest) the country started facing some serious power shortage and everyone is blaming the "foreign miners" for that, the president demanded for more regulation, and there have been some moves against those who mine illegally.

a few days ago they confiscated 4,500 miners and are still hunting for the other illegal operations, so probably many illegal miners have shutdown before the police identify their locations.

Now it's also very likely that the tariff on power for mining will get another spike, the president said

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"We are the number two crypto miner in the world, and we see practically no financial return"

So, you have a power shortage crisis, the majority of the income goes to foreign miners "mostly Chinese", you export coal at a premium and now you have to burn it to avoid blackouts, so it's a -lose-lose situation, how do you recover that? shut down all the illegal miners and tax the heck out of the ones who mine legally, if they stay -- you make more money, if they leave -- you use less coal and get to sell it to China.

This whole mess is a net positive as far as the difficulty is concerned.

1960  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S19j Pro 104TH/s --- not reachable on: November 21, 2021, 09:27:31 PM
I recently purchased an Antminer S19j Pro 104TH/s from Bitmain.

I scanned my router to get the IP because IP scanner wasn't able to detect anything with the physical IP button on the miner.

Miner is connected via ethernet and in the list it says device: unknown, static.

When I try to reach the miner with its IP it doesn't connect, says 'host unreachable', tried ping but same result.

Please help me out here.

First of all, let's just say that the IP report button is pretty useless as far as what you are trying to do is concerned, in fact, it could create issues for you, so stop pressing it, if you bought the miner brand new then it comes with DHCP enabled, meaning that the miner will negotiate with your router and will be given a certain IP within the DHCP table range set on your router.

A good tool to use would be "angry ip scanner" to scan for all devices on the network, if that still doesn't solve your issue, it probably means the miner is configured on static settings which is almost impossible if you bought it directly from Bitmian, but either way, you can just reset the miner and will go back to DHCP.

Also, it's funny to say but please, make sure your network cable is good and that your router has DHCP enabled.
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