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2041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: September 14, 2022, 09:02:25 AM
I believe Inoue can win a title in super-bantamweight. The featherweight division would likely become his limit due to his size and his age. Mid 30's athletes' bodies will change some slowly while others are quick to catch up. Inoue at over 33 years old will lose some of his quickness and strength. He may continue to become a champion like Usyk, Crawford, GGG, and Beterbiev because these people are extraordinary but that doesn't mean they didn't depreciate.

Nice explanation, he is not anymore a young boxer, so there's always a limitation once the boxer will age. Unless Inoue will continue to climb after winning a championship which is possible but unlikely to happen. He maybe a star now, but at with the same age as Pacman, Pacman has more achievements than him.
It's really hard to compare the two, I guess it's a combination of Pacman's uniqueness and Arum careful match making that he achieved so much in short amount of time.

But Inoue can still make his name and will probably can go at high 126-130 but it will be very difficult for him, facing natural fighters at that weight division.

We know how good Arum in terms of milking his money making fighter,
Right, he won't be successful in boxing promotions if he doesn't know as I have said, cherry pick and then he milk then with the right amount of money. But sometimes there are fighters like Floyd who severe his tie with Arum because he doesn't want the money he is getting.

but I can say that Inoue has the caliber that really brings him to standout on his division, and in terms of moving up to another weight with his fighting skills and his dedication to keep enhancing, the chance of winning is very possible for him.

Butler's name got credentials, but witnessing how Inoue put down Donaire, we can assume that it will be another KO win for Inoue.
Inoue has what it takes to be a very elite fighter that's why he won and become the champion. He has the talent to build his name around. And then he hired Top Rank to promote him in the US and that's why he become a household name even for US fans.
2042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 14, 2022, 08:19:01 AM
A variable I've seen discussed here a few times is the AD situation.
Unfortunately he is in a delicate situation and has regrettably spent more time off the court due to his injuries than playing.

But anyway, I believe for the Lakers to be champions in this season, they need to evolve a lot, not specifically improve their roster (this is an important factor), but something more relevant, is the chemistry between the players, which I saw a few times in some games the Lakers played in the previous NBA season.
It's difficult to create strong chemistry if they keep on rotating new players on their roster. It cannot even be compared with the likes of GSW, Phoenix Suns, and Grizzlies. There's a savior though, Lebron James. He had been a leader for a long time and he knew how to create chemistry in a short span of time. I remember him creating events for the Lakers players a lot of times to strengthen that chemistry so it will just depend on them if they want to join.
AD and Lebron won't have a problem and they kept Austin Reaves which I think will be a lot of help to them.

Lakers need to retain what rooster they have if there current rooster are skilled ones its just they really need chemistry so that they can work all things out, but the problem with them maybe LBJ request to overhaul their team is they change their player to new once they get bad run in a season. And I think what LBJ did last time did not work since they end up on bad position last season. So maybe its best for them to have young potential talents and develop them since this could bring good future to LA rather than trying to create a super team surrounded  by ball dominant players since for sure they really get a problem again with that.

They already got a powerful roster last 2020 but after they won the Finals, the team decides to let go some of the players so that they can afford Westbrook in the process, and that's where they did some mistakes. Now, they cannot blame Westbrook alone just because he didn't meet the standard they expected from him but because they already have some good players and still decided to let them go. One examples for that is Alex Caruso.
We can't say that they have to blame Westbrook for what had happened to them last season. It's the breaks of the game, they started good in the first 10-20 games if I'm not mistaken, but as soon as Davis get's injured, the Lakers suffers and they can't recover in time to make the playoffs. For Caruso's case I think it's more of the salary offer and it Alex is not satisfied that's why he chooses to go to the Bulls with good offer.
2043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 14, 2022, 07:34:00 AM
congrats to Alcaraz, he is now no.1, and IMO this is much more deserved than Medvedev being no.1

good game with Ruud, but there was hardly a question who will win it in the end, Alcaraz is definitely best talent at the moment, and could win a lot of GS's in the future

is this a new generation in tennis starting or just US Open, since big3 domination was lowest on US Open, comparing to Wimbledon, RG and AO

Your last sentence is exactly what I was questioning myself. And I think it is a new generation that we see here. Alcaraz has only been playing professional tennis for 2 years and at 19 he is already number 1. If his body and his head cooperate he will be able to play at a high level for the next 14 or 15 years.
we can't tell these days, i've seen Alexander Zverev and Thiem play really well and i thought we will see them by now fighting for the top of the leader board, but injuries and missing a lot of competitions because of covid did them really bad, so who knows ? Alcaraz might suffer from an injury that could destroy his career just like what happened to dominik thiem.
Hopefully it will not be the case for Alcaraz, to get injured early in his career and then suffered the worst, then losing the number 1 and his career over in an instant.

You mentioned Thiem, he is a prime example, although he was supposed to be the next generation and almost reaching the top spot, then suddenly injuries get a better of his career and although he try to comeback this year, it seems the competition has up the ante so he can't climb back as he wanted it to be.
2044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: September 13, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
I believe Inoue can win a title in super-bantamweight. The featherweight division would likely become his limit due to his size and his age. Mid 30's athletes' bodies will change some slowly while others are quick to catch up. Inoue at over 33 years old will lose some of his quickness and strength. He may continue to become a champion like Usyk, Crawford, GGG, and Beterbiev because these people are extraordinary but that doesn't mean they didn't depreciate.

Nice explanation, he is not anymore a young boxer, so there's always a limitation once the boxer will age. Unless Inoue will continue to climb after winning a championship which is possible but unlikely to happen. He maybe a star now, but at with the same age as Pacman, Pacman has more achievements than him.
It's really hard to compare the two, I guess it's a combination of Pacman's uniqueness and Arum careful match making that he achieved so much in short amount of time.

But Inoue can still make his name and will probably can go at high 126-130 but it will be very difficult for him, facing natural fighters at that weight division.
2045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: September 12, 2022, 12:50:57 AM

Boxing record:
Dmitry Bivol 20-0-11 KOs
Zurdo Ramirez 44-0-30 KOs


I became a fan of Bivol after schooling Canelo in their fight and now he is up against a legit challenger in Ramirez he will have his hands full again, it's very interesting and exciting to watch when both undefeated fighters are fighting not only to keep their 0 in their record but for the title as well, I don't know much about Zurdo but his records will speak for itself, based on what I saw on Youtube he is a legit challenger and a big threat to Bivol's title and reputation.
He already carved up his name in history for defeating Canelo, who is supposed to just steamroll everyone at 175 lbs. So yeah, some of us here become a fan of him.

And we would a believer if he beats a tough opponent in Ramirez and see how great Bivol is. Perhaps next for him is either Beterviev for unification or a rematch with Canelo Alvarez.
2046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Too good to be true? on: September 09, 2022, 11:26:12 AM
Is it possible to invest 100$ in altcoin and turn to 7,000$? Have this ever happened to anyone on here? Is this even possible?.
Yes it is possible, but you have to be very lucky to find that project early and then invest on it before other does and then it magically grows in the next couple of months, specially if this happens on a bull market. And perhaps this is true maybe in the ICO boom in 2017, that is a bull year and every projects turn into gold. Even during a airdrop it's going to be worth like $100 or even more. So just imagine if a airdrop can be worth like that what more is the project that is more hype than others?
2047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stressful crypto market on: September 09, 2022, 11:06:59 AM
Market will always be fluctuating so that we should never stress, rest assured that the market will soon improve and today it is proven because it rises more than 8%, I'm sure there will be many who say regret when we don't buy at prices below $ 20k, but if we have money then then Immediately buy even though it's now $ 20700, I'm sure in September it can reach at least $ 25K.
Yes, anyone expecting this recovery so quick that it went to $20,700? So what is next $22k before we can say that we are out of the lower lows for this year?

And what is the news that brought the market to bounce back again?

So it's becoming interesting again for this month, I have to check my analysis again as it is obviously invalidated because the price I'm looking is at $19,700 to trigger another run and that's what is happening right now.
2048  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 09, 2022, 10:47:35 AM
Jabuer run continues in the ladies side, as she defeated Garcia. So she will be the first one to reach the finals.

Swiatek and Sabalenka still battling it out, as usual Swiatek lost the first set. And then storm back in the second to win by 6-1. Start of the third set now, and it seems that she has gotten his confidence back and her momentum. Sabalenka needs everything if she wanted to win.
The momentum has moved into Swiatek, third set got equalled 4-4 and now Swiatek have taken the lead 5-4. Sabalenka have done the best. The serve is with Sabalenka and she can level the point. If not this is going to be the match decider. The pressure is high on sabalenka and made a double fault in the serve. Finally it was Swiatek to win the match 3-6 6-1 6-4.
Another great comeback from Swiatek. It seems that he is becoming the Djokovic of women's tennis. Like deliberately losing a set by a huge margin and then coming back strong to snatch a win.

So it will be Jabeur vs Swiatek in the women's final. I will be putting my money again on the over for this. I'm expecting that it will be a 3 setter match.
2049  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 09, 2022, 10:29:54 AM
.......
Speaking of the free agent market, I noticed that there are 4 centers in there,

- Dwight Howard
- Demarcus Cousins
- Tristan Thompson
- Hassan Whiteside

Maybe this is another indication that the NBA is really going small basketball and the game has really evolved in the last 10 years.
It evolved for sure since you now see bigs taking three pointers and handling the ball.

It's probably more of an indication that Centers today are trying to acquire skills more suitable for other positions and kinda abandoned what they're supposed to be really good at. I bet they would still be useful to any team if they can post up like The Dream or The Big Fundamental.
Yeah, as we all know by now, Steph Curry is one guy that change the game completely. And then we have the likes of Dirk Nowitzi as well who shape how Centers or at least 7'0 guy shoot from the outside.

We still have the old and traditional Center like Joel Embiid and play one on one and uses their height to their advantage. But this era is very different now, and since everyone can shoot outside, the physically of the Jordan era is gone and that's why ex-basketball players that are now analyst on TV criticize this era for being soft.
2050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17 on: September 09, 2022, 09:49:36 AM
A  boxer's career is good as his record.  If Canelo losses to GGG in this coming fight, it will greatly affect the future  hype and interest on the fight of Canelo.  It would be not good if Canelo suffers a back to back losses and it will surely affect his career.

I think if ever GGG wins on this fight, it would be interesting to watch another rematch to seal the rivalry.

Another "rematch"? I don't think that there will be any rematch, irrespective of the outcome. Even if by some miracle Canelo loses this fight, I don't think that he will be interested in another bout with Golovkin. He can always claim that now the score is 1-1-1 (although many of us don't agree with the scorecard from the previous two fights). In case Canelo is able to win, then there is simply no question of a rematch. The last thing I want is a controversial decision from the judges. If the fight is close and the judges show bias to either one of the boxers, then this debate will go on forever.
Yeah, I don't think a 3rd fight is needed if ever GGG win in this fight. But it will be interesting how the career of Canelo will go. For sure he might fight Bivol again in  the rematch.

So both can still continue despite losing this fight although it is very important for each one to win and sell the rivalry that it take years for Canelo to accept the 3rd fight.
2051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I won't be buying Eth until the merge is completed things are running fine on: September 08, 2022, 04:30:08 PM
Is this ideal or let me use the word most suitable, I plan not to buy Ethereum until the merge is complete because

1. Its been years that we've been waiting for this merge to happen and there have been so many delays and postponements for the past years, I doubt things will go smoothly, what if something so catastrophic happens to Ethereum when and after the merge?. .this upgrade has not been tested yet so anything could go wrong.
Isn't it been tested first on their testnet? I do agree that the mainnet might have a problem, but I don't think it will be catastrophic as you may have think.

2. Many exchanges already halted every Eth transactions starting from today and that's even on other chains as well, I think they knew anything could go wrong, even erc20 tokens can't be processed or sent when the merge is close am I right?
This is just a precautionary measures, just like any other crypto's that have upgraded in the past. They halted all transactions until everything settles down.

You can still hold ETH on exchanges and nothing happens.

2052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here is why the price has remained low on: September 08, 2022, 04:13:11 PM
The price remained low because the bubble has been burst, and this is the cycle that we know of. So we are in a bear cycle so people are selling since December of last year and there are no big whales that is willing to shake the market and buy tons of it just to impact the price positively.

And besides, they are whales and we don't know his/her identify, so we can't simply influence that individual even if he or she is amongst us in this community.
2053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: September 08, 2022, 03:50:17 PM
Is anybody here following Haney's Twitter? I like how he is being vocal and at the same time trolling or trash-talking. Last month, Haney was trolling Teofimo Lopez calling his performance like a poor one against a non-ranked fighter.

This month of September he is targeting Tank Davis, calling his WBA regular belt a Mickey Mouse belt. Of course, the WBA belt is not a major title since Haney got the Super WBA belt and all the remaining belts in the division. It's funny because prior to becoming an undisputed champion, Haney was called an e-mail champ after his WBC interim belt was upgraded as the WBC champion after the corrupt WBC president Sulaiman tried to introduce its new WBC Franchise (similar to Super WBA belt) belt as a major belt with higher credits than the usual WBC belt.
He has all the bragging rights, Haney has done his thing, fighting Kambosos, going to his backyard, taking all the belts and then willing to go on a rematch again. So he beat the man who beat Lopez and then Teo going up in weight and fighting nobody, I think Haney is just being real here.

And I agree with his trolling of Davis, he is just being groom to be the next Floyd, but he is not facing any good opponent in hi last 2 fights. Of course, boxing politics, with all the corruption and those funny belts specially from WBC's Sulaiman, we forget how many belts his organization has for a single weight class.
2054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 08, 2022, 03:31:23 PM
No matter how they'll improve their roster but they don't have the system to win the championship, that's still not gonna work. Warriors had a good system, they also have a big 3 who are experienced enough in the NBA finals and have won a multiple championships together, so I would trust the Warriors here as they will likely win a back to back championship, well, I could be wrong though.
They had a good one during the bubble and Butler was doing pretty great doing the damage against the Lakers, it changed when it was found out their weakness was Duncan Robinson. Suddenly, they lack a sharpshooter in the playoffs last season after Coach Spo keeps on benching him because of the lack of defensive power. If it's improvements in chemistry base, they are strong and the same offensively but the defense is where they need to balance out because it had been easy for other teams who they will target for a higher chance to make a point.
IMO, they are not weak, there's just a missing piece.
The Miami Heat has a good system I believed, they have the experienced winning a ring under coach Spo. And they went into the finals in the bubble with Butler leading them against the Lakers.

It's just in the last 2 seasons, they can't get the hump and reach the finals again. They try to upgrade their roster with Lowry acquisition and Oladipo. But I guess Victor is not a perfect fit for them, he play good defense in the playoffs but not enough offense which he was known of.
2055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 08, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
I just saw the highlights and it looked like a great match. I planned to watch but it was during the night here - so I managed to catch only a few last games when I woke up.

Alcaraz looks most likely to win it now - if he did, he'd claim the 10th spot in the 'youngest GS winners' list. Since Sampras in 1990, only Nadal won it younger than Alcaraz will be if he wins.
He'll be the youngest no. 1 ever though - with both Hewitt and Safin being over 20 when they reached no. 1.

Both would be terrific achievements and would be well deserved.
We have been waiting for who is going to replace the big 3 and it seems that we have found the answer in Alcaraz. And his game doesn't have any flaws right now, Sinner has the chance to win this game but Alcaraz save the break point and won it. And then he put a lot of pressure on Sinner, in which he wasn't able to respond. And I guess whoever wins the Alcaraz vs. Tiafoe will most likely raise the trophy this year.
2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all 100x hunters out there on: September 07, 2022, 12:31:46 PM
75% of crypto investors don't understand that projects like Solana, Cardano, Doge, SAND, XRP, Avalanche did a 100x in this recently past bull run and it will never happen again, not even 20x I believe, those who have been in crypto space since 2017 will understand what im talking about, every four years a new adjustment is always made to Top 20 lists on Coinmarketcap, new breeds will take over.

Get rid of the old stuffs and hunt for the next 100x, not a financial advice but DYOR.
Thanks for the reminder, I was on the boat on ADA in 2018 bear market and I will say that it really did bring a good returns of profit to me.

And so they are very cheap again and the rest of crypto that have been mentioned here, and so they are still solid and legit as they are in the top 20 as per cmc, a good indication that they will be massive growth in the next bull run in 2024-2025. So don't missed your chance to accumulate in this bear market.
2057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: RUIZ VS ORTIZ SUN, SEP 04, 2022 10PM ET EASTERN TIME/ on: September 07, 2022, 11:56:22 AM
I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Ruiz will surely have that chance mate because with this win(though of course he is in advantage) yet he shows how strong and tough being fighter he is.
though there is a long line for championship  but His name would be one of the boxer that will be on list.
Congratulation for the win though.

This is a WBC title eliminator but there's an ongoing negotiation between Fury and Joshua and the WBC is agreeing for this fight to underway even giving a special designation to Joshua so the fight will push through if the fight failed to materialize then Ruiz will get into the picture but for now, the boxing community wants the Joshua - Fury to push through because it was schedule years ago but failed to mateialize.
Yes and I think Ruiz will not have a problem with that, just stepping aside and wait for the Fury (WBC champion) to fight AJ in UK for all British showdown. And so he will have months to take a rest and heal this body, prepare his mind on whoever win that fight, he will have a crack at him later, so win-win for Ruiz. And he still has the power to knockout everyone is the heavyweight division so that will be a problem for his opponents.

Do you all think that Ruiz deserves a set-aside fee for getting out of the picture and letting the Fury - Joshua go on, this is a WBC title eliminator he deserves to be the next in line for the title, but knowing gRuiz he is not the kind of who imposes his right but let's see in the coming weeks if the Joshua - Fury will materialize which we all want to happen, but it case it did not Ruiz deserves to be the next challenger, since he won a title eliminator and he wins very impressive.
It's beyond his control as of now, if the WBC says that he will need to step aside and let Fury defend it against Usyk or Joshua for a bigger pay for Tyson and the organization then he will step-aside maybe for some monetary rewards. So let's see, with the sort of boxing politics we have right, those who won the eliminators can still not get the first crack from the champion. So I wouldn't be surprised if Fury vs Ruiz will not be made yet.
2058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [NEWS] Gambler Charged with Murder after Letting Kids Die on: September 07, 2022, 11:38:51 AM
The heartbreaking tragedy, careless act and negligence of the mother quoted in the article cannot be justified. cases like this are very rare, usually cases of similar negligence occur in a shopping or supermarket when the mother leaves her child in the car to shop or buy something.
Still the same though, this is criminal negligence, manslaughter case against the mother.

Unfortunately, this case is linked to a casino which in fact adds to the long list of bad stigmas from gambling, despite the fact that this case is purely the carelessness and negligence of the mother. to be honest this is a rare case, but this case can be a lesson for all parents out there or in our community so that things like that don't happen.
You can look it that way, or it's that the mother can't control of herself because of her addiction. So I don't think this is a rare case though, gambling addiction when it hits someone can do things that not a normal person will do, like stealing and hiding it from their families and in worst cases, like this one.
2059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 07, 2022, 10:58:59 AM
I’m not sure I like the Hornets signing Montrez Harrell. I feel like he got his bag when he left the Clippers and hasn’t been the same since. I don’t suspect any team that signs him is going to get their money’s worth. I don’t think he’s a good pairing with their young run and gun squad either. I guess we’ll see how it goes, but I feel like it won’t go well.
Signing with the Hornets or the Sixers? It's the latter that I'm reading.

It's $5.2 Million for two years with a player option for a 28-year-old center. I don't think that's a bad deal for any team since he can still be useful in player rotations. The Sixers probably thinks he could give Embiid more minutes to rest while he's on the floor. Maybe they're hoping a double-double or close to it for 20 minutes?
I think that's good enough money for Harrell. When the Clippers let go of him, he said that they made a big mistake. But now it seems that LA has made the right decision because when he move to the Lakers, he didn't have any impact and then he was traded to Washington and now moving to a new team. Hopefully he can land his spot on the Sixers and maybe he can call it a home for the next 2 seasons.
2060  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: September 07, 2022, 10:41:11 AM
Needless to say, everyone is predicting that this is going to be a match that will be won by Inoue.

100%, or if not maybe 95%.... Inoue is gonna win here, but if you will put a bet on him, don't expect an 50-50 bet, most likely your bet will only win less than 5%.
Let's say that there's the little percentage that Butler could win. The talks are that it will be like a lucky punch that will make him win this match.

Most of the upsets in boxing are made through lucky punches Grin Inoue is heavily favored to win, but that doesn't mean that Butler doesn't have a chance. There is always a chance and opportunity for underdogs like Butler to win. They just have to make things work and grab that little sliver of opportunity when it presents to them. Who knows, maybe Butler can knock out Inoue in one of those rounds and we will all be shocked in disbelief  Cheesy
A punch that Inoue is not expecting, and that is the punch that usually hurts and could end this fight. However, we haven't seen Inoue letting his guard down. Even in the first fight against Donaire that put Inoue at bay because he has suffered a broken orbital bone, it's not enough for him to go down or quit. So it will be a combination of everything before Butler can upset Inoue.

A lucky punch is indeed the right term and what Butler needs to win this fight but based on chances, we can assume and predict that Inoue will dominate Butler in almost all rounds or even knock him out much earlier just like what Inoue did to Donaire recently. Though, we can say that Butler won't take that step because he knows that he will just end up laying down in the canvass.
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