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2061  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 04, 2017, 05:05:40 PM
God is just like a wind. Why ? We didn't see the wind but the wind still exist because we fell it. Just like god we didn't see god but we feel that there's a god.

So your god is my fart?

Sweet!!!!!

All that methane! You'll burn well in the Lake of fire.    Cool

Glad you didn't disagree about your god!!!!

Well done sir!!
Maybe you should not all speak so strongly about this or that faith? This offends the feelings of believers. Although those who do not believe, still have some kind of faith or not?

Nope.  No faith of ANY kind.  I do not believe in ghosts, Jewish zombies, desert blind holy men, Gods of any kind, no unicorns, unless I see one in the zoo.


2062  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: April 04, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
I live in Bulgaria and there are many muslims here. Even though we were slaves to Turkey for over 5 decades I can't say I hate them since I treat person by his personality, not by his religion or race. Saying I hate them because they are muslim is wrong cuz I think there are more bulgarians I hate at all
Yes nice, I agree with you. Please do not fill our minds with hate, it would ruin our conscience. I also never hate people because of religion or politics, but because they did the crime.

There is a difference between hating people and hating the wipe-ass ideology these people believe in.

I don't hate Muslims.  I hate Sharia Law and all other nonsense published in the Quran.

A guy flew to heaven on a winged horse in the middle of the night, nobody saw it, yet someone wrote about it.

Please, buy a clue.

2063  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: April 03, 2017, 04:16:06 PM
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The problem with your thinking is that every cure is a God-cure. Why? Because, no matter how people manipulate the things of nature and the universe to effect a cure, God is the one Who placed everything there for mankind to manipulate. The God-made machinery of nature is far in advance of any machinery that man makes. The cures are ALL from God, first, and then they are simply manipulations of man. Even the prayer cure is simply a manipulation of man. God is the one Who makes all cures.

Cool

How about diseases and genetic disorders?  Is he making them as well?
Or they are the 'devil''s work.

God is good, evil is bad, hallelujah, praise the lord, pass the collection tray, amen!  LOL
 
2064  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: April 03, 2017, 03:46:53 PM
Religion is the same as believing and accepting something, So if someones accepts and believes in the theories and scientific discoveries, I will say that the person regards Science as a religion. Darwinist believes in the theory of evolution which throws the Bible account of creation in doubt and thus the existence of GOD himself. Most atheist believes in science rather than GOD.

You don't have to believe in scientific discoveries.  That is the difference between science and religion.

One is based on facts, the other is just wishful thinking.
2065  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: March 27, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
I don't understand why people bash other people's religion, it's just like what other religion does, to unite and do good to others. Something along those lines, probably. I don't know, I'm Catholic and I respect other people's religion and somehow curious on what they do, but I don't want to say something that could be a disgrace to them or something like that. The aim of religion is sometimes to be better, a better person for the world and to which God you believe in.

I don't discriminate.  I make fun of all of them.  They are ridiculous Bronze Age nonsense.  Nothing more, nothing less.

2066  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: March 23, 2017, 11:23:25 AM
i don't hate islam.
it's too conveniently simplistic to view islam as 'the problem'.

which is not to say it doesn't have its problematic aspects.
there's only one final prophet there, mohammed - full stop and end of story.

but the historical trajectory there is such that mohammed had to figure out a way to break the perpetual cycle of endemic warfare and find a way to unify many tribes around some broader meaningful order. he undrstood power very well and did a brilliant job far as that goes, in those times and places, but then - islam is also designed to appeal to the very poor (and thus also uneducated), that have in many cases lived in the mud for centuries, and those are always pretty tough neighborhoods so to speak.

funny enuough, the only 2 descendents of mohammed today are the king of marocco and jordan - both really cool, intelligent, modest, liberal (even somewhat nerdish) in secular (or slowly secularizing) countries.

and then let's not forget that the sunni and shia are fighting it between themselves like the catholics and protestants did back in the day (the 30 year war) - only in this case the stakes are higher and its not enclosed in fortress europe but is quite transcontinental and geopolitical in nature.

 

If the ideology causes otherwise sane people do horrible things, I blame the ideology.

Islamic terrorists are the victims of that ideology.

Stop pretending it is not true.  Nazism, Communism, or Racism are all wrong and are banned in most countries.

Now it is time to ban religion, Islam in particular.

Last prophet my ass.  He was a war monger, opportunist.  He needed a strong ideology to help him manage the ever expanding empire.
2067  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: March 21, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
To everyone here, PLEASE STOP you are say Muslim is terorist, DON'T you are look at ISIS, ISIS is not Islam, But whom they want to destroyed a reputation of Islam in the world. We are Know that, in any religion, terorist is a word which very hated. If a person make a wrong, don't blame the religion, blame that's person.

ISIS is Islam. Why? They follow the words of the Koran and Hadiths for violence. The Koran violence can be seen here: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

Many Muslims say that the violence is interpreted incorrectly. They say that Islam is a religion of peace. The peace is only for Muslims. Look at the words in the link. Are they interpret incorrectly? No. They are words of violence which are correctly translated.

Islamic clerics have taught Muslims that the words in the Koran do not say what they say. But anybody can see that the words are the accurately translated. What is the result of all this? Most Muslims are really not Muslim, because they believe the clerics rather than the Koran. This is why ISIS kills many of them. ISIS is killing backsliders who will not join them and obey the Koran.

Are you Muslim? Obey the Koran and kill people who are not Muslim. That is what the Koran says. That is what ISIS is doing.

Cool

No, No.. You are very wrong brother, the Koran never says like that. A criminal is a criminal. In the Koran, surah Al-Ma’idah : 32 referred to:

"... Whoever kills a human being, not because of the people that (killing) someone else, or not because of the mischief of the Earth, then it's like he has killed the man completely. And whoever kept the life of a human being, then it's like he had kept all human life. …”
From this paragraph is quite clearly PROVES that Islam opposes the killing of any innocent man, Muslims or non-Muslims. Islam clearly challenging acts of terrorism in all its forms.

I have any questions for you :
1. Who always invades a country peaceful, secure, serene just for the sake of expansion?
2. Who is always broadcast a religious teachings in a way to invade her in advance?
3. Who is always interested in mastering as well as "robs" the country's oil is good in a way the country pitting opposition, funded, spreading bomb slander, making the State never there is peace?
4. Who is loan sucker the world (IMF) that makes the country so add their patients ' misery with a foul and vile system?
5. Who are the perpetrators and supporters of the occupation, deprivation of the land community, the massacre of Palestinians from 1948 until now?

Yes I'm Muslim and I'm proud be Muslim.

You are an idiot.  That is who you are. 

Ask Allah to post here or shut the fuck up.
2068  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: March 21, 2017, 02:51:55 PM
Religion, regardless of its direction, is the product of the devil, and the devil never did anything true.
That's rude. I think you don't have a religion to teach you the word "respect".

Even though you don't believe it, you should know how to respect. Show that religion is not important to you to become a good person but I think that's an example of a person lacking of religious influence to their life.

That is where you are wrong.

Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.

I don't believe in Nazism or Communism, does it mean I should respect it???WTF!

Some ideas are ridiculous.  Religious ideology is exactly that.  

What is the difference beween a cult and a religion.  Income Tax exemption?



2069  Other / Off-topic / Re: Poll: Which religion is the best religion? on: March 20, 2017, 05:08:34 PM
Such question have no meaning really.
Why?
It's obvious that each Christian will answer that Christianity is the best religion, Muslim will say the same for Islam, Buddhists for Buddhism etc.
Who can answer such question?
Only God.
We need some absolute moral authority, values, guidance, eternal truth we can follow.
People are changeable and their moral values are changeable to.
So, we can't trust our judgment.
Only from eternal, absolute source, our origin, can come absolute moral guidance and absolute truth, not from man.



True.  Problem is that God exists only in people's heads.  That is why you get different answers, depending who you ask.

If there was a God, we all would be following ONE fucking God, not 2500+ imaginary "Gods".  ROLF.

You would not need religion if God existed.  You would have an app on your iPhone to talk to God directly.

2070  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people believe in religion? on: March 20, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
I don't know why people believe in religion (especially in today's world with the all information available few mouse clicks away) but I think it's their right to believe in whatever they want. For example I was raised in a family where my mother has been christian and my father has been atheist. Until I was 17 I believed in God and Jesus but after reading many books and documentaries I stopped believing. And it was on my own. Nobody forced me to believe or not to believe.

The most important thing is that whatever you believe in does not harm anyone. As long as you keep it for yourself and for your own spiritual good I don't see any problem. I know my mother finds strength in her belief so why would I try to convince her to stop believing.

I think that many people search for purpose in their life.
I believe also in the spiritual reality, not just physical.
Yes, scientists can create many ''nice'' things and our life is better now than before, but still many people feel''empty'' and without purpose of life.
Do you think that technology or science can give us purpose of life?
Or help us find ''inner'' peace in our mind?
I don't think so.
When we talk about God, we are talking about spiritual reality, and science can't help us in this area.

All our sense is controlled by neuron and scientists are looking to understand our cell from its basic cell such as stem cell until differentiated cell such as nerve cell. Hence, if scientists can truely understand how the system/feeling happen around our body, the spiritual need shouldn't become a problem.
Another way to deal with these problems can be looked from sociology.
Sociology is a science that state the problems, define the conclusion and suggest the solutions.


I agree that science can research our body, neuron, cells and understand how everything works but I still don't think that science can prove or understand spiritual reality around us, God, or give us internal guidance or purpose of life.
Many people understand science, but still don't feel happy or content with their life.
It's obvious that something is ''missing''.
Money, wealth, job, knowledge, education are important for our lives but we, human beings, need much more to be happy and fulfilled.
I think that religion can give some answers which science can't give.



People believe in religion because there are a lot of question that can't be answered but by only thing they know is that there is a divine person who started it all, who created us and everything. It is much easy to put it in this way.

Also God is their source of hope in  times when they are down and provides a purpose in their life like as you afforementioned. Science can't answer all this questions and can't disprove what these believers believe in which become a stalemate.

I don't oppose religions as long as they instill goodness to each one of us or to everybody.

No, people believe in nonsense because they don't recognize it as nonsense.

Failure to perceive reality.
2071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people believe in religion? on: March 18, 2017, 11:59:00 AM
If you do not embrace any religion in this world, then you are living in this world for what? what the purpose of your life in this world if you do not believe in any religion?

The most basic purpose of life is to pass on your genes to the next generation  (or not).

The purpose of any lifeform is to live and see their offspring live.

That is how life sustains itself.

You can make your life useful to others, you can enjoy it.  You might as well.  You only got one life after all.



whether you believe in the existence of heaven and hell?

The nature does not care if you believe in hell or heaven. Earthquakes and hurricanes happen no matter what you believe.

Species survive or go extinct no matter if you believe in Ra, Zeus or more recently in Jesus.



what you ever have a problem? how do you solve the problem? Do you not care with the problems you are currently facing? problem is a test, so earthquakes etc it was is a test. then why there Mosque, Church, Temple, Shrine, Pagoda, Synagogue. What are they doing there? what they expect there? if they are not expecting paradise? then why there a place of worship if you do not believe in the existence of heaven and hell? Do you know the "faith"?
1> If you have a problem, you use that thing between your eyes to solve it.

2> People came up with the concept of 'God(s)' to fill up the gaps in the understanding of how the nature works.
This need to have answers to everything is well ingraied in all of us.

3> Some of us fill this need with imaginary concepts, others sit down and try to investigate, reason out the solutions.

The sad reality is that there is no heaven or hell.  I wish they were.  Some of the fucked up Muslim followers (ISIS or Sharia Law sympatizers) or Christian pedophiles should definetly go to hell.  But unfortunately we all die and decompose, whether you are a saint or an ISIS executioner.



People came up with science to console themselves that they will never be able to fill in the gaps.

Cool

4> People turn to science for answers that their faith cannot give them as their religion has too many gaps.

Science fills those gaps and what gaps are not filled are being researched.


1> If you only use the eye to resolve the problem, I think the problem will not be completed if you just see/staring problem with an eye. lol

2> Not everyone came up with the concept of 'God(s)', as I have found in the post above "someone does not care about the natural disasters" people like it not have religion and faith.

3> Heaven and hell it exist. ISIS are not Muslims, ISIS is a terrorist organization. Terrorists are organizations that do not understand the true meaning of jihad. Everyone can follow ISIS and everyone can join with ISIS, why everyone can enter ISIS? because ISIS is a terrorist organization. ISIS not RELIGIOUS.

4> for me, this kind of thing is no need to be researched. lol

Are you kidding me? ISIS is as Muslim as your fucking prophet Muhammad.  No need to takiyya anyone here.  These guys implement Sharia Law in all conquered lands, just like your Mohammed did.

ISIS are the real Muslims you are not.  Once they get to where you live your head will be on the stick.

If you truly believe in what you are saying I know you are not a Muslim, but if you just takiyya us, I perfectly understand.

Either way, if you believe in any of that 6th century ideology, you are not mentally well.  Good luck.
2072  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people believe in religion? on: March 18, 2017, 11:46:02 AM
There are many religious people on earth. Even the vast majority of the world believes in monotheistic religions.
And often they do not question belief systems. There are many people who have Christian, Muslim and Jewish beliefs.

Why do they still believe in religion. I can not understand why people believe in religions in the age when we can reach the information so quickly.
my high self make me to believe that something is wrong with religions and religion is The root of deception in the world. People call Christianity religion but I don't think christian is a religion but away of life. Love has proved to be the most potent force on earth but religion abandoned love especially christian which is the teaching of our lord Jesus Christ. They are now pursuit fames, prosperity and miracle.

Christianity is not a religion but this refers to the movement or way of life following the teachings and values of Christ. But when we talk about Christianity there are many forms and doctrines and that is where religions enter. Religion is an organized system that relays and interprets the teachings of Christ to the people. Religion becomes our guide towards the path where Jesus wants us to go.

How do you know what Jesus wants?

2073  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: March 18, 2017, 11:44:20 AM
Atheist deny the existence of God or a supreme being and since all Religions and this includes the occultist and even Satanist shows that there is Someone greater than what we can imagine. This goes contrary to the beliefs of the Atheist. Satanist being in the Devil who is a supreme being who is constantly at war with God. This shows that this world isn't just what we see but its spiritual but they dont seem to understand which i believe is due to something that happened to them. They believed at one time but when they wanted something really bad it just didnt happen.
It turns out that an atheist is even worse than Satanists. If Satanists recognize the existence of God and Satan, then atheists generally reject the existence of everything that a person can believe. I just do not understand how such people live and what they think about.

Believing in something that is not real is a sign of a mental disorder.

You are delusional.  Atheists are not.
2074  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: March 17, 2017, 12:19:27 PM
BADLogic must go to the Kirk Cameron school of brainwashing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eM5GZuB-UA

Quote from: Kirk Cameron
How to share your faith effectively, and biblically...

To be able to reason with people...

Learn to circumnavigate or go around the person's intellect!

Atheists are different. They try to go around their own intellect by focusing on what they think they would like. So, since science and nature show that God exists, the atheist has turned himself into an ostrich with his head in the sand.

Now it wouldn't be so bad if the atheist said I don't know. But since he is so adamantly positive, when he knows that he doesn't know, he has turned into a liar. Watch out when you do business with an atheist!

Cool

We cannot. We have the evidence that there is no evidence in the existence of God.

Birth defects, earthquakes, tsunamis, wars, many religions, many Gods, no miracles, no life after death.

The only things we have are stories about Gods.
2075  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: March 16, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
yes, i believe in god because god is creator all nature universal end My place ask protection.
You saw how he did? I don't believe in God. There is no evidence of its existence. On the contrary, all of modern science proves the opposite. Common sense tells me that there is no God.

You are wrong. The below links show you the science that proves God exists. The things that the science DOESN'T show are most of the details about the nature of God.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380

Cool
Do all the mechanisms work on the ground by the laws of nature, but what does God. Nature is our environment. The man also part of nature. And God is a part of folklore and not more than that.

I realize it is difficult to understand the science.    Cool
To understand science is not difficult. On the contrary there everything is clear. There are laws of physics which are subject to all. As for God here on the contrary there are no facts, only stories. Do you believe that God made Adam from clay and eve from Adam's rib?

You might be saying science, but you are talking religion.

Everything operates by cause and effect. This is science law. Cause and effect shows us that after thousands of years, we have complexity through one thing causing another, which causes another. There is no random. Everything is caused precisely according to the laws of science. Entropy shows a beginning had to have happened. This is science law. Whatever could play the "pool game" of cause and effect on countless numbers of particles and waves of energy in the universe, to produce the complexity we see in intelligence, fits our description/definition of "God."

Cool

God of the gaps again?  It sure is not Zeus or your Jesus zombie.

Not at all. There aren't any gaps in cause and effect. Cause and effect is direct action all the time. It is science law. No gaps at all. God is real.

Cool

Correct..... there are no gaps in cause and effect. So who created your God?

When you know a little about science, then you might be able to talk about God with a little understanding.

When you start to understand that you can't even think properly about God because He is outside of the universe as well as within it, then you just might realize that the idea of creating God is an improper idea.

Cool

There are many, many things in this universe that are beyond our scope of understanding. And God is one. We can't see him but we still believe in him, or have faith. The universe appears to be finely tuned, and it required a fine-tuner who else did it, but God alone. And the existence of the Universe will also proved that there is a universal God.



That is the classical definition of "God of the gaps".  You don't understand something and you immediately fill that gap in your understanding with God.

There are probably an infinite number of universes, all with different physical constants.  We are in a much smaller set of universes that have physical constants that allow for the formation of atoms.  We are in this one.
New universes are probably born as I type this post.

The argument that the universe is too complex for it to exist on its own is the same as the argument that human body is too complicated to evolve on its own.  Typical argument given by Religiotards is the human eye.

However, when someone actually looks at the evolutionary evidence, you will find that we did evolve from a much simpler life forms.  The human eye is a result of that.

Just because you don't understand something it does not mean that your imaginary friend did it.

PS.  Don't feel bad.  Newton, probably the smartest man of his time, did make the same mistake,  among other things about gravity and mass interactions.  He filled the gap in his understanding with God.  I bet if
he lived today he'd be an atheist.
2076  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: March 15, 2017, 12:13:21 PM

I believe Bible is a collection of Bronze Age stories and moral codes.  In today's world it is an utter nonsense.  That is what I know.

Many people have a religion like that. Often, when they have this religion, it is based on a false understanding of what science is. If they understood science, they would understand that their religion was wrong.

Cool

It is not a religion.  It is a fact.  The book is a collection of scribblings of 40+ authors over the course of 2500 years.  Finally assembled into a book in 325 ad. 

Even today, there are many versions and translations.  Some countries sanitize this book more than others.  In the end, the Bronze Age moral wisdom shines through.
2077  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: March 14, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Science cant be a religion, but it's a part of my life my own religion)

Well here in my place, they say, Science is more on theories, Religion is more on homilies. Science based their belief on theories by using mathematical statements as a proof, Religion based their belief on writings written by the disciples of Jesus Christ.

Homilies can stand forever, because they are conjecture. Theories should be dropped as theories when it is found that they will never be able to be proven - like big bang theory.

The interesting thing about the Bible is, nothing in it has ever been proven false. There are only the things that are proven true, and the things that haven't been proven, yet.

Bible is much stronger than science.

Cool

Almost everything in the Bible has been proven false.

- Earth and universe were not created in 6 days
- Earth is not 6000 years old
- Earth is a sphere, not a flat plane supported on pillars
- Space is not filled with waters above the dome
- human death is not a reversible process
- humans were not created from dirt, we are animals that evolved from apes
- women were not created from a rib bone
- human population is not a result of one big incest, genetically impossible on the 6000 year old Bible timeline

Oh, and the most important one: There is no physical evidence of God.  No sane person ever saw or heard God.


None of the things that you have said has been proven by you. Nor do you understand the proofs that others have suggested that they have for any of the things you have said. Because of this, science is a religion for you, even if it is not a religion for many who have relied on the proofs of science, with understanding that science barely shows anything at all, and that God is way beyond and above science.

The machine, nature, is the proof that God exists... proof that even the least intelligent of people can see around them. Isn't it about time that you increased your intelligence to that of the least intelligent?

Cool

All of the above have been proven by direct observations.

C'mon, even you, as uneducated as you are, cannot possibly believe that Earth is flat as described in the Bible.

Who am I to contradict that you believe what you said here? You certainly are welcome to believe it, even though you don't know it.

We finally agree on something. The earth is not flat. The thing that we might disagree on is that the Bible says it is flat.

Since you are less educated in some areas than I, thanks for the education compliment.

Cool

I think the problem is you do not know what exactly is in the Bible.

Regarding the flat Eath statements, Bible writers did not know that Earth it is a sphere.  Here is why:

Daniel 4:10-11. the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.”

Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.”

Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...”


The above statements are only possible on flat Earth.

If you are in Australia, you will not see HIM, when people in New York see HIM. ROFL.

It is consistent with what people in Bronze Age believed.

Care to argue that we were created from clay/dirt and that first woman was created from a rib bone?



There you go, showing your ignorance of the figurative way that the Bible speaks at times. However...

I am pleased that you believe in the Bible, now. So, since you believe in it, you believe in God, because He is the author of it.

Cool

I believe Bible is a collection of Bronze Age stories and moral codes.  In today's world it is an utter nonsense.  That is what I know.
2078  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people believe in religion? on: March 14, 2017, 05:24:05 PM
We believe in religion because we also believe in God. It is not the religion that could save us. It is only God. But of course religion helps us to bring us closer to God. Too bad, some people were only using religion as an excuse to use other people for financial purpose. Some doesn't even know the essence of it.
If you believe in god ,does god have a religion and if that is not the case how could a religion brings us closer to god. Religion is a financial cash cow that could make a billion dollars and people will be willing to donate as much money in fear that god will curse if you are not donating. Tongue Silly

God doesn't believe anything except one thing which I will mention, below. God doesn't believe, because God knows. God knows everything except one tiny, tiny thing. Since He knows everything, He doesn't have to believe about anything. No religion. Just knowledge. And super scientific knowledge at that.

What is the one thing that God doesn't know? First, God doesn't know it because He has hidden it from Himself. He has hidden it from Himself so that He can have enjoyment in finding it out, just like we get enjoyment in delightful surprises. This thing has to do with the amount of inner faith we have in God. God actually knows all about our faith - the direction it is going, and how strong it is. But there is a tiny bit of the core faith in each individual that God allows the individual to have control over without His knowledge.

The Bible explains that Abraham (of the Old Testament) believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness. In other words, God wasn't expecting the great core faith that Abraham had in Him. And when God saw it, it gave Him so much joy that He made Abraham to be the father of many nations, and the head of the family line of people through which Jesus Christ would come, and ultimately came.

Cool

So now you know what God believes or knows?  How delusional are you?
2079  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: March 14, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
yes, i believe in god because god is creator all nature universal end My place ask protection.
You saw how he did? I don't believe in God. There is no evidence of its existence. On the contrary, all of modern science proves the opposite. Common sense tells me that there is no God.

You are wrong. The below links show you the science that proves God exists. The things that the science DOESN'T show are most of the details about the nature of God.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380

Cool
Do all the mechanisms work on the ground by the laws of nature, but what does God. Nature is our environment. The man also part of nature. And God is a part of folklore and not more than that.

I realize it is difficult to understand the science.    Cool
To understand science is not difficult. On the contrary there everything is clear. There are laws of physics which are subject to all. As for God here on the contrary there are no facts, only stories. Do you believe that God made Adam from clay and eve from Adam's rib?

The guy believes in everything that the Bible says.  6 days creation story, talking snake, 6000 years old Earth, virgin birth, man was created from dirt, we are not animals (decendents of apes), God is outside of this universe, etc.  you know the whole nine yards...ROFL

And he comes out here and talks about 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, applies it incorrectly, and claims he discovered proof of God.

The guy is delusional.  Period.
2080  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: March 14, 2017, 05:12:19 PM
Science cant be a religion, but it's a part of my life my own religion)

Well here in my place, they say, Science is more on theories, Religion is more on homilies. Science based their belief on theories by using mathematical statements as a proof, Religion based their belief on writings written by the disciples of Jesus Christ.

Homilies can stand forever, because they are conjecture. Theories should be dropped as theories when it is found that they will never be able to be proven - like big bang theory.

The interesting thing about the Bible is, nothing in it has ever been proven false. There are only the things that are proven true, and the things that haven't been proven, yet.

Bible is much stronger than science.

Cool

Almost everything in the Bible has been proven false.

- Earth and universe were not created in 6 days
- Earth is not 6000 years old
- Earth is a sphere, not a flat plane supported on pillars
- Space is not filled with waters above the dome
- human death is not a reversible process
- humans were not created from dirt, we are animals that evolved from apes
- women were not created from a rib bone
- human population is not a result of one big incest, genetically impossible on the 6000 year old Bible timeline

Oh, and the most important one: There is no physical evidence of God.  No sane person ever saw or heard God.


None of the things that you have said has been proven by you. Nor do you understand the proofs that others have suggested that they have for any of the things you have said. Because of this, science is a religion for you, even if it is not a religion for many who have relied on the proofs of science, with understanding that science barely shows anything at all, and that God is way beyond and above science.

The machine, nature, is the proof that God exists... proof that even the least intelligent of people can see around them. Isn't it about time that you increased your intelligence to that of the least intelligent?

Cool

All of the above have been proven by direct observations.

C'mon, even you, as uneducated as you are, cannot possibly believe that Earth is flat as described in the Bible.

Who am I to contradict that you believe what you said here? You certainly are welcome to believe it, even though you don't know it.

We finally agree on something. The earth is not flat. The thing that we might disagree on is that the Bible says it is flat.

Since you are less educated in some areas than I, thanks for the education compliment.

Cool

I think the problem is you do not know what exactly is in the Bible.

Regarding the flat Eath statements, Bible writers did not know that Earth it is a sphere.  Here is why:

Daniel 4:10-11. the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.”

Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.”

Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...”


The above statements are only possible on flat Earth.

If you are in Australia, you will not see HIM, when people in New York see HIM. ROFL.

It is consistent with what people in Bronze Age believed.

Care to argue that we were created from clay/dirt and that first woman was created from a rib bone?

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