Fark, I got this thing running but I can't connect to it since it doesn't show up in the DHCP list, someone on the cointerra forums said they had the same issue and had to scan the whole network to find the unit. Does anybody know what the default IP address is or is this thing supposed to do a DHCP request?!
if you cant see it on the DHCP list and don't want to lose more time playing around then try limit your router to 10 devices or in other words 10 IP address for example from 192.168.1.1 (1.1 being the router) to 1.10 , then try to ssh to each IP from 1.1 to 1.10 or basically write the address into your internet browser... |
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I am waiting like an idiot for anyone to confirm receiving a tracking number or a unit, and I am losing my patience a day after day...
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anyone can log into bitstamp ? I am having troubles to log in, and I am reading that people cant withdraw BTC as well, is this true ? anyone having the same troubles ?
Edit: I just logged in, but I am still curious about BTC withdrawals.
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ok got it, but supposedly we will fix the Malleability issue today, how will this fix all their issues ? It won't and it won't be "fixed". It is a limitation of the system that we have to deal with. The reference client does a good job of handling it. Those who can't do a better job shouldn't attempt to do so. Even if it was going to be "fixed" by a hard fork that would be months if not years. From proposal to final release P2SH took 10+ months. This would be a much more radical change to the core protocol. IMHO it will NEVER happen but if it did, do you honestly think MtGox just holding on to the coins for 10 months is a viable solution? With a small amount of competence malleability can be detected. they will still have ton of other issues on their side, this is what I really don't get, do they take us for idiots ? I don't what they take "us" for but yes this wouldn't affect the half dozen other critical flaws in the client. It also won't "undo" the unknown number of bitcoins they double paid to attackers. I will add this, I missed replying to from your first reply Your right if you send out payments to 50,000 users and 49,999 report no issue but one user over and over reports not getting paid well then "hmm maybe this user is running a scam" however if you send payments to 50,000 users and 30,000 of them report non-payment due to a variety of reasons (caused by Gox) then it becomes easier for the attacker to hide. we are still talking about one "failed transaction", you can miss on 1,2,5 or 10 users but you still have the other 900 that got their Bitcoins even if their tx says different, users wouldn't complain, it is even a good transaction and all users get their BTC regardless the tx or no one get anything... |
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I feel I am missing something here, so gox halted BTC withdrawals claiming that its is the protocol fault, we all agree on the bug and it has been known for a long time now, what I cant understand is how users are effected.
ok take a moment and hear me out, or in other words try to explain to me how this works:
1- I request a BTC withdraw
2- Gox hot wallet is empty
3- now 1000 user requests BTC withdrawals.
4- gox fill up the hot wallet to make it possible to withdraw or at the mean time they get enough deposits to proceed with the withdrawals.
5- the attacker is one of those users who did request a withdraw.
6- gox send TX1.
7- attacker change the TX1 to TX2
8- everyone get their Bitcoins regardless which tx is.
9- attacker claims that he didn't receive the BTC so they check their DB for TX1 and they agree on his claim and credit his account ( but again why, what about the other 999 user).
10- all the 999 user got their bitcoins and no one complains.
if we agree on the 10 steps above, then there is something fishy here, now when I see thousands of customers complaining about not getting Bitcoin withdrawals it makes me wonder how is this possible !!? because my logic tells me the 999 user shouldn't be effected, only the attacker who can claim on being "effected".
but for the last couple of weeks some people got their bitcoins when others didn't, how do we explain this ? anyone try to explain this to me ?
MtGox had other issues which resulted in payments failing, being delayed, and needing to be resent. The attackers took advantage of this to "camouflage" their actions. Your right if you send out payments to 50,000 users and 49,999 report no issue but one user over and over reports not getting paid well then "hmm maybe this user is running a scam" however if you send payments to 50,000 users and 30,000 of them report non-payment due to a variety of reasons (caused by Gox) then it becomes easier for the attacker to hide. MtGox wrote their own client, and they did so horribly bad. Their client isn't worthy of being used by a hobbyist experimenting on testnet but they used it in production for a systme involving millions of dollars of assets. We have no idea how many things they got wrong but looking at the failed transaction we know at a minimum these things were wrong: a) MtGox double spent their own coins. b) MtGox paid insufficient fees on tx which were low priority meaning they would not be relayed to miners by most nodes. c) MtGox created tx which violated the "anti-spam" rules which caused tx to be dropped (not relayed) by some nodes. d) MtGox attempted to spend immature newly mined coins (newly mined coins can't be spent for 120 blocks). e) MtGox used non-canonical signatures on transactions which were rejected by newer nodes. Moral of the story, a custom bitcoin client must be EXACTLY compliant with other nodes on the network. "Kinda good, most of the time" is not sufficient. It is an undertaking that most people should not attempt. I consider myself moderately knowledgeable about bitcoin and I don't use a customer client. I use a custom backend which communicates with the reference client for these exact reasons. MtGox attempt would be laughably bad is released as an open source alternative client, the fact that it was used as a closed source production client borders on criminal negligence. ok got it, but supposedly we will fix the Malleability issue today, how will this fix all their issues ? they will still have ton of other issues on their side, this is what I really don't get, do they take us for idiots ? |
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It's not strictly TA, but the sentiment on this sub-forum feels awfully bottomy.
Not really. The bottom is when people do not anymore believe in Bitcoin. Where is that to be seen? Who has quit the forum because of that? (Such make some noise before quitting so that you will notice  ) We have potentially a long way down to go, but of course the news do matter. No, there have been at least 2 on here, including TERA, that have said they might be bowing out. The other one was mmitech I believe. I am still here, I didn't quit and I am not planing to do so, I said I cant do anything because I don't hold any bitcoins at the moment, I invested 80% of my BTC into IPOs and cashed 20% out (needed some cash for a personal project). so I am painfully watching this lost opportunity, I just hope that the IPO pays out at the end ... |
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I have never ever used gox, I am verified and all but never tried it, I've always used Bitstamp even when they were relatively small...
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I feel I am missing something here, so gox halted BTC withdrawals claiming that its is the protocol fault, we all agree on the bug and it has been known for a long time now, what I cant understand is how users are effected.
ok take a moment and hear me out, or in other words try to explain to me how this works:
1- I request a BTC withdraw
2- Gox hot wallet is empty
3- now 1000 user requests BTC withdrawals.
4- gox fill up the hot wallet to make it possible to withdraw or at the mean time they get enough deposits to proceed with the withdrawals.
5- the attacker is one of those users who did request a withdraw.
6- gox send TX1.
7- attacker change the TX1 to TX2
8- everyone get their Bitcoins regardless which tx is.
9- attacker claims that he didn't receive the BTC so they check their DB for TX1 and they agree on his claim and credit his account ( but again why, what about the other 999 user).
10- all the 999 user got their bitcoins and no one complains.
if we agree on the 10 steps above, then there is something fishy here, now when I see thousands of customers complaining about not getting Bitcoin withdrawals it makes me wonder how is this possible !!? because my logic tells me the 999 user shouldn't be effected, only the attacker who can claim on being "effected".
but for the last couple of weeks some people got their bitcoins when others didn't, how do we explain this ? anyone try to explain this to me ?
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I feel I am missing something here, so gox halted BTC withdrawals claiming that its is the protocol fault, we all agree on the bug and it has been known for a long time now, what I cant understand is how users are effected.
ok take a moment and hear me out, or in other words try to explain to me how this works:
1- I request a BTC withdraw
2- Gox hot wallet is empty
3- now 1000 user requests BTC withdrawals.
4- gox fill up the hot wallet to make it possible to withdraw or at the mean time they get enough deposits to proceed with the withdrawals.
5- the attacker is one of those users who did request a withdraw.
6- gox send TX1.
7- attacker change the TX1 to TX2
8- everyone get their Bitcoins regardless which tx is.
9- attacker claims that he didn't receive the BTC so they check their DB for TX1 and they agree on his claim and credit his account ( but again why, what about the other 999 user).
10- all the 999 user got their bitcoins and no one complains.
if we agree on the 10 steps above, then there is something fishy here, now when I see thousands of customers complaining about not getting Bitcoin withdrawals it makes me wonder how is this possible !!? because my logic tells me the 999 user shouldn't be effected, only the attacker who can claim on being "effected".
but for the last couple of weeks some people got their bitcoins when others didn't, how do we explain this ? anyone try to explain this to me ?
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Not sure what do you mean by: 'their goal of being 35% of the network'.
Peta's strategy is to reinvest 35% of its net income and according to Cryptx's forecasts (a bit dated) Peta hash rate should represent around 1-2% of total hash power.
I hope I am not remembering a hallucination. I swear I saw it somewhere that there stated goal was to be in control of 35% of the total network hashrate. I am going to keep hunting and if I find it I will post a link to the source. you are not wrong, they said we will make sure to not gain more than 35% of the total hashrate of the network: http://www.peta-mine.co/faq/Why a PETA-MINE?
Our goal is to deploy a mine with 1PH/s of hashing power. We have chosen this size for different reasons. One is scaling to keep average hardware costs of the mine at a minimum. Second is future difficulty, we want to achieve considerable percentage of the total market but will monitor closely not to exceed 35% of the total network. |
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Two weeks in bitcoin or bitmine time? Both differ vastly from actual, real TIME it seems. Two weeks with the TM (trademark) is the known BFL code for delay, this is what he meant |
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I got a message saying an order has been moved from ”Processing” to “Preparing for Shipment,” whatever that means. No tracking number.
when did you order (exact date) and your order number ? |
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Conclusion: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind does not track changed transactions properly. Changed transactions will show up as a new transaction, and I would need the "new txid" thing to track those properly. It is not only MtGox. Services using bitcoind, like mine, may be vulnerable as well.
Hm, wonder if this explains why I've heard all other exchanges updating their systems as well. I believe this mutability issue is not as "insignificant" as the core dev team is attempting to convey. It's because the Bitcoin cultist foundation wouldn't want to have people recognize that Bitcoin is imperfect and sell. Paid shills will do what paid shills do. Damage control. mmmm, Blitz, you surprised me, I didn't expect this from you !!! so you really think that Bitcoin core developers and the foundation are playing around ? and how can you stand for gox after all what they've done to their customers ?!! now Bitcoin is not perfect, and such perfect system doesnt not exist, but Mark blaming it on Bitcoin is just stupid !! I give them credit for bringing bitcoin to what it is at today, but this doesnt mean that this protects them from failure... do you remember April 2013, the engine lag ? so bitcoin's fault ? and FIAT withdrawals ? Bitcoin's fault ? and their custom wallet and how it trace/write inquiries to the database ? bitcoin's fault as well ? |
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20:28 < sturles> Question: I have an autobuy system where I give each seller an unique address to transfer to when selling, and use a
-walletnotify script to trigger a price check when someone transfer coins to their address. When the transaction you are asking questions when you wrote the answer, you give each customer a unique address, so why are you afraid? you just wait for 3 confirmatons like the rest of the world and you are good to go. regarding your script that checks the price, I would check the price when I get the 3rd confirmation and not before, as easy as it can get. I agree that this has to be fixed, but I just dont feel it is an issue that will cause the failure of the protocol !! if it worked for 5 years it will hold till the fix... |
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Anybody else start having units rolling in?
I am curious as well, how many of you here have received units or shipping information ? goat did you receive your units ? |
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I don't know what else we can do about them to be honest, I don't care about trolls but I think the spammers are starting to target old threads now too.
Minimum activity to post 100?  that is a bit harsh though, I would say 8 hours logged in and > 50 activity ? I know that we will be limiting legitimate members from posting questions or adding value to threads but something similar would really help limit the shills and trolls and spammers... |
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the irony when gox had a premium price of $150+ then other exchanges, today you cant get your bitcoins and you cant get your fiat but bitcoin price is $110 less than other exchanges, you know why ? because fuck you customers and it is bitcoin's falut not ours |
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I'm looking fwd to mining $2 coins, that way my wife can STFU about 'IT'S NOT JUST A HOBBY, YOU ARE MAKING MONEY' that will put her in her place  dear fellow friend, i do feel with you. i also have a terror queen at home. can we sell them for BTC? anyone? edit: and yes, gox sucks...:/ lost about 4k... this make me feel good about my wife, when I first knew about bitcoin I wasn't sure about the whole thing but I wanted to studie it more and give it a try and she pushed me to do it... she never finished her logistic engineer's degree, but now she is writing her diploma about bitcoin, yes it is never too late, a house wife with 3 kids and still enthusiastic about Bitcoin, how cool is that ? |
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the last few weeks have been insane with the amount of trolls, so many new accounts with user activity <50 trolling all over the place on all boards, it is not a matter of only trolling but threads are full of spam, I get it you can share your point of view and without censorship, this is cool, but when you start repeating the same thing over and all over again for 10-20 pages you are just spamming and you bring the value of the discussion down and it becomes really disturbing.
Mods, Admins and Theymos please apply the noob restriction again to help prevent these trolls, they can still bitch as much as they want in the newbie section....
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appreciated isn't a word i'd use. as an investor i demand to be updated atleast once a week, especially in times of trouble.
Some of us use the word appreciate because we are being civil and understand that cryptx is likely busy still readying the datacenter for future installations of hardware. As far as we know there are no times of trouble currently, both bitmine and cointerra had issues and delays, both have since ramped up production and have started shipping. Considering we know where their first batch of hardware is coming from we can keep an eye out for updates from those suppliers ourselves, instead of demanding that cryptx feed us information that is freely available or not available at all. lol. i've got nearly a thousand shares. being civil is something you do when the company your invested in makes sure to put the investors first. Considering they were here all the time during the investment phase and now they have all our money are only popping back once a week. fuck being civil. you can always get rid of your shares if you are not comfortable with the business model, I used to bitch the same like you when I just joined this forum, in fact I didn't register the first day I knew about bitcoin, I did register when I felt frustrated and the only thing I could do was bitching. bottom line, this wont get you anywhere, you will lose your nerves, time and energy without adding anything of value to this matter, in fact I used to Bitch about Cryptx as well, I spamed their thread with posts repeating the same thing again and again and all over again.... but did I change anything ? no. Advice: if anyone is sick of waiting and don't want to wait or risk anything just sell your shares, I will make sure to buy even more at lower prices, I've been doing it anyways.... |
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