I too missed seeing james make an appearance, as I had wished to finally hear an official detailed account of this deal that has changed soooo many times as well as more about why vrc should want to have anything to do with supernet, what he envisions vrc actually doing as part of supernet, and how that will provide any actual value for vrc from his own mouth.
Also I agree that it is painfully apparent that the new forums is an attempt to censor anyone that is not a so deemed cheerleader. However, I do like the new Vericoin only forums and think it is a good idea, BUT it must be open to anyone to post anything other than spam like that which was posted on veritalk. Vericoin does not need to go the way of Zeta creating private/limited/closed boards like that phony nobs.is. With that said, I as an investor with multiple top 100 wallets am not happy I have had my account deleted more than three times already from the new forums.
As for the age old Money Transmitter Licensing issue plaguing the now coined "BitVeri" process, the corporate support that I had spoken of had that issue solved. A few friends whom work for a MAJOR company that already dominates this aspect of the industry with bitcoin were more then willing to help. Now, not so much.
And Barabbas you give too much credit to JL777 for price. The price is not in the hundreds b/c we have not sold any VRC and left yet. Not b/c of his buy support or his sell walls. For you see, we have been "persuaded" to stay in the market by some friends whom are still tied up in Vericoin. B/c of this we have decided to not just sell and "give" our substantial holdings away, though no more buy support will come from us. So for now, vrc will not follow in the footsteps of CGA, EFL, EMC2, or any of the other coins whos market we crashed by cashing out of.
So I will sum up by saying obviously I feel that joining supernet under these terms was a bad move and not the way to go. Control of 10% of VRC would do SO much more for VRC if given to/obtained by a major company such as apple OR BitPay as opposed to an anonymous figure with the purpose of giving credibility to his supernet idea.
oh and the new wallet is cool too, I suppose.
I have to disagree with you on several points, of course. Nothing new. ALL the credit for the price sustainability, 100% of it, should go to James and James alone. Sorry but it is a fact. NOT SELLING -as you imply- did not stop VRC to crash 8000 sat. Staking at the level of 20+ million, did neither. Now, with the staking at less than 1/3, still maintains the price. And people is not selling, in spite of a practical double since. That is James and James alone. Nothing else. Credit where credit is due. I cant believe you though, when you say that the Money Transmitter License is -or was- NOT an issue. Patrick Nosker very clearly stated here that it was... only because the project did not have the $150-200,000 needed to get the license. Should "your" group have that ability and will, this was way before James, it would have been implemented within a couple of weeks if offered. It never was. And I for one believe that you or your group lack that capability altogether. See? It isn't a matter of people selling or not... enough people sold to bring the price under 8000 sat, before James came in, and enough people would have run for the exits to have it now in the hundreds if James would not have come into the picture... whatever you may want to choose to believe. I believe I can answer your questions regarding what VRC will do for the Supernet and why James in so interested: He, being anonymous, needs a coin that will be a transparent and believable entry door to the Supernet and it's riches. Our 3 devs are still the "good guys" of crypto, so they will fit ideally the image that James wants the Supernet to project while he remains in the shadows and quite away from the US authorities, which is a main objective for him now that he is in the money big time. That's basically the value VRC brings to the Supernet. The value that VRC gets from the Supernet is enormous. First as an investor in it, of considerable proportions. But, more importantly, it will have the tech wherewithal to be among the leaders in the digital currencies world, therefore reinforcing its intrinsic value in a comparatively significant way since we were, before James, at the bottom of the barrel with no objective possibilities of technical progression. In other words, it is a win-win and then win situation for both. You also have, as far as my assumptions go -and they are quite punctual-, quite wrong the concept of exchange between the Supernet and it's core coins -of which we hope VRC will be one-. While the Supernet will INVEST in VRC to the tune of getting 2.7 million VRC, it is my understanding that VRC will invest whatever those 2.7 VRC are worth at the time in Supernet units. So Supernet will own 10% of VRC (purchased, not given), while VRC will own whatever % of Supernet can be bought with a similar amount of BTC than the one paid for the 10% of VRC. No one is "giving" up anything. It's a swap. Fair and square. I just questioned the details and timetable of such swap operation. Of course I do not know -or care- who "persuades" you of not selling. But I am quite convinced that whether you choose to sell or not is quite irrelevant to the fluctuations of the price at this stage. What is this stage? One in which a very credible individual, James, is in full support mode of a coin that he needs for his overall project. The community (of VRC) and of crypto alts in general, has responded and continues responding very positively to that fact. And THAT and only THAT is what's keeping the price stable. |
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A hangout without James...
He was sorely missed and actually ever-present since all everyone was interested in was what only James could have answered. Since he did not, let's get to the REAL questions that people are interested in obtaining answers to... but first let me state here, again, that I believe the new forums is the worst idea ever. Why? because it serves no purpose AND the only one that results from it is quite detrimental to Vericoin since it goes directly against what Vericoin purports to be: An altcoin without anything to hide, with honest developers, total transparency AND a decided vocation to become the digital currency that normal people use . All of it goes squarely against this forum structure where people -new visitors- will get absolutely lost while searching for information that should be readily available with a simple glimpse at the OP here, in BitcointTalk. Needless to say, it will be a total failure as it is, in fact, a not even disguised intent to effect censorship and convert the community that everyone expects to be widespread into a reduced club of inconditionals with nothing to bring to the table except their worshiping of the dev team. Bad, bad mistake that, hopefully, will have no significant effect of any kind in the future of vericoin and it is born condemned to almost immediately be obsolete. Anyway, on with what really matters. James:
-- Although this question belongs probably more in the Supernet forum, it is of evident interest to holders of vericoin. Can you please CLEARLY explain the 10% condition? It is my understanding that any core coin of the supernet will be 10% owned by the Supernet (not you personally) and, in exchange for that ownership -as in a stake swap-, every core coin will have the corresponding equivalent in Supernet. If so, at what time is the value/price locked? The VERY CONFUSING words of Nosker, obviously added confusion instead of clarification... is it because Patrick himself doesn't understand your concept and terms or is it because he is shy in communicating that Supernet will buy 10% ownership of Vericoin IN EXCHANGE for equivalent purchase, by Vericoin, of Supernet?
Now I am ASSUMING that the final figures will be established at the time of integration -if and when it happens-, at which times Supernet will buy whatever amount is needed to complete the 10% stake, and Vericoin will purchase the amount needed to complete similar amount (not in %, which will be determined by marketprice, but in actual value). If my assumption is correct, does it count the amounts already purchased by Vericoin owners or it is something entirely separated? Along those lines, Patrick informed us that you, James, own currently over 400K units of Vericoin. Will those be considered as part of the 10%?
Another question without (logical) answer briefly mentioned, without any depth, by Doug: FIAT from the client. We all know that this is only possible, in the US, through very expensive availability of funds, in the neighborhood of $150-250,000. How is that bridge going to be crossed and when? Whose money will that be from, you James? the Supernet? Vericoin? Without that there's no possibility whatsoever of getting direct FIAT in the wallet... and we already have it through third parties -just like every other alt that wants to have it and some actually do. Again, we have had for months the clear and honest answer of Nosker, so this question is not directed to our devs but to James specifically. Just like the previous ones (although if the devs want to add some CLARIFICATION, needless to say it is welcome).
The only other thing is that it is not fair to even pretend to steal the thunder from James regarding the price of Vericoin which remains solid ONLY because of James, otherwise we would be in the hundreds, not the thousands, by now. Sorry devs, but what's true is true and it is only honorable to recognize it.
James, please try to be as clear as possible in your answers for, as you can see for yourself, the confusion is significant. Thank you.
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@ annoyxxy,
when I talk to children I sugar-coat a bit. Here I speak to (theoretically) adults.
@Wheezy,
What you consider "every right" is by no stretch of imagination what others -and me-, do. And not "for the most part" or ANY part have they been open about it. Caught is more like it. Besides that I have never stated that I oppose or dont like what they are doing or have done... I have simply stated an obvious FACT: the project has shifted its focus and direction. Significantly.
@ sony,
Yes, getting anon was a definite shift from the "good guys" path and into shaddy territory, no question about it. Just like there's no question that gambling, in whatever form, is also going in a different direction.
As for promoting friends' coins, OFFICIALLY, I have never seen it before. And it has nothing to do with marking territory, pissing or otherwise, but with a very elemental common sense... just like you wouldnt expect coca cola recommending pepsi. More so since their markets are unlimited and alt coins one is just the opposite.
Selling software for personal profit is a way to make money not a means of survival. The project, frankly, had excess of technology NOT lack of it. Nobody watches -or much care- what the tech devs do, how many hours they devote to the project, etc. They are as bound and committed as they choose to be at any and all times. They are not supposed to draw income from pink, ok? Pink has enough -and then some- and needed none. Not anon. Not gambling. It needed -and continue needing- investors. And a clean GOOD GUYS image. An image and a reality that would have put pink at the front of the line when regulation hits -which WILL happen at any time now-, and not in jeopardy because of it. And yes the (vocal part of) the community wanted those features like anon and gambling just like they would clamor for anything they perceive as a potential trigger to increase the price, for what they want is to lock in profits not the future of pink... which should be the main focus of its developers.
Like I have repeated several times already not judging or even criticising, just stating facts.
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It would be apparent enough to a child that I am typing on a phone and thats the reason for the spelling mistakes but who cares about truth when you can ridiculously distort it (only 9 people has donated in over 4 months; three of them half the total --no other coin has purported to make a commitment to charity...) or, even better, smoke-courtain the issue by focusing on spelling mistakes?
your syntax AND spelling, by yhe way, is quite embarrassing... as for the tee pic you link, thats almost as old as the charity start... wow. Blatant indeed (beautiful tee notwithstanding).
Hey, once again, the focus has obviously shifted in this project. It isnt necessarily bad. Just true.
No point to argue further here though. Its time to re-evaluate.
What is this "focus" and "direction" you keep talking about? Shifted from what? You have contributed nothing so far and keep throwing these vague accusations around. Except for an outrageous botched attempt at crowdfunding 30 million PINK and a few thousands USD here, for a "World Pink Day" party in Japan, Im not really sure what you have done to contribute to this "direction" that we have "shifted" from. Now I understand that this is probably the n'th time you are stating or insinuating that its no point to argue here, time to re-evaluate, etc. But time and again you pop up here with your excess baggage of sickly unresolved trauma. Don't you realize no one cares if you invested in pink or not? You clearly do not posses any of the positive values shared by this community. Your "warnings" (or observations, if you prefer that term) serve no purpose, because you have conveniently ignored to declare your intention. I'm still left wondering what your intention is? You seem to be under the impression that the addition of poker led to the subtraction of something else. Care to elaborate without bringing up non rebuttable diplomatic PR terms like "focus" and "direction" please? So what if technology we make is leased out to other coins? The wider adoption is a testament to our quality. Your iPhone's processor is made by Samsung, Audio clarity thanks to Texas Instruments, and memory from Micron. I understand the impulsive counter intuitive nature of it all, but facts speak for themselves. All these companies seems to be doing quite well in working with each other, than if/when they were doing everything on their own. If you have a suggestion, swing it by us. A constructive criticism? Throw it in here! Happy to bounce it off the smart people here with varied skills and approaches. That's what forums are best at. But please make it concrete... not "lets focus on x" or "lets move in that direction" etc. We have the skills to implements any good ideas you or the community brings forward, so long as we do not get bankrupt in the process. And that is not a statement of weakness. It is a reality that everyone acknowledges. It also means there will be active development by the devs till we cannot afford to feed ourselves or pay the bills. Self sustenance is a necessary part of any cycle to continue, and for the coin to not be self sustainable is not negotiable. No sony, there's no point in arguing with you about this or anything else really. Your chosen misconceptions are as outrageously off mark as your analogy regarding the smartphone companies, therefore any intelligent debate attempt -or statement of facts- would be a complete waste of time. The conflicting points -with the original vision- have been properly posted and people has all the information to decide if they want to support the shifted direction of the project or not. Which is the ONLY point. Rest is inane and bad intentioned personal stuff of no interest to anyone. LOL.... but of course... its always a "waste of time" when you need to actually think of proper answers. I'm still trying to find that elusive "intelligent debate attempt" that you mentioned. Damn unicorn was just here I tell you! It is in front of you and stated -along with proper evidence- in the previous posts. But you simply refuse to see it because it doesnt serve your personal agenda so, yes, waste of time. Just this once I would indulge you with a -real and appropriate- analogy: in your concept substitute "poker" with "porno". Do you see a shift in direction now? Hey it can even be a good promotional tool -which poker hss proven NOT to be at all- and probably profitable business, that's not being contested. Is it a shit in focus though? One more for the road: If you lease or otherwise sell tech innovation, thats your business not implementing it yourself... unless you have different divisions working on different products which obviously is not the case. Or is it? Because if we are in the businesses of selling tech and promoting friends' coins obviously the survival of the Pink project is not the only objectivr and, eventually perhaps not even the main one. I believe there were more than one unicorn here actually. And several smoke courtains too. |
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It would be apparent enough to a child that I am typing on a phone and thats the reason for the spelling mistakes but who cares about truth when you can ridiculously distort it (only 9 people has donated in over 4 months; three of them half the total --no other coin has purported to make a commitment to charity...) or, even better, smoke-courtain the issue by focusing on spelling mistakes?
your syntax AND spelling, by yhe way, is quite embarrassing... as for the tee pic you link, thats almost as old as the charity start... wow. Blatant indeed (beautiful tee notwithstanding).
Hey, once again, the focus has obviously shifted in this project. It isnt necessarily bad. Just true.
No point to argue further here though. Its time to re-evaluate.
What is this "focus" and "direction" you keep talking about? Shifted from what? You have contributed nothing so far and keep throwing these vague accusations around. Except for an outrageous botched attempt at crowdfunding 30 million PINK and a few thousands USD here, for a "World Pink Day" party in Japan, Im not really sure what you have done to contribute to this "direction" that we have "shifted" from. Now I understand that this is probably the n'th time you are stating or insinuating that its no point to argue here, time to re-evaluate, etc. But time and again you pop up here with your excess baggage of sickly unresolved trauma. Don't you realize no one cares if you invested in pink or not? You clearly do not posses any of the positive values shared by this community. Your "warnings" (or observations, if you prefer that term) serve no purpose, because you have conveniently ignored to declare your intention. I'm still left wondering what your intention is? You seem to be under the impression that the addition of poker led to the subtraction of something else. Care to elaborate without bringing up non rebuttable diplomatic PR terms like "focus" and "direction" please? So what if technology we make is leased out to other coins? The wider adoption is a testament to our quality. Your iPhone's processor is made by Samsung, Audio clarity thanks to Texas Instruments, and memory from Micron. I understand the impulsive counter intuitive nature of it all, but facts speak for themselves. All these companies seems to be doing quite well in working with each other, than if/when they were doing everything on their own. If you have a suggestion, swing it by us. A constructive criticism? Throw it in here! Happy to bounce it off the smart people here with varied skills and approaches. That's what forums are best at. But please make it concrete... not "lets focus on x" or "lets move in that direction" etc. We have the skills to implements any good ideas you or the community brings forward, so long as we do not get bankrupt in the process. And that is not a statement of weakness. It is a reality that everyone acknowledges. It also means there will be active development by the devs till we cannot afford to feed ourselves or pay the bills. Self sustenance is a necessary part of any cycle to continue, and for the coin to not be self sustainable is not negotiable. No sony, there's no point in arguing with you about this or anything else really. Your chosen misconceptions are as outrageously off mark as your analogy regarding the smartphone companies, therefore any intelligent debate attempt -or statement of facts- would be a complete waste of time. The conflicting points -with the original vision- have been properly posted and people has all the information to decide if they want to support the shifted direction of the project or not. Which is the ONLY point. Rest is inane and bad intentioned personal stuff of no interest to anyone. |
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It would be apparent enough to a child that I am typing on a phone and thats the reason for the spelling mistakes but who cares about truth when you can ridiculously distort it (only 9 people has donated in over 4 months; three of them half the total --no other coin has purported to make a commitment to charity...) or, even better, smoke-courtain the issue by focusing on spelling mistakes?
your syntax AND spelling, by yhe way, is quite embarrassing... as for the tee pic you link, thats almost as old as the charity start... wow. Blatant indeed (beautiful tee notwithstanding).
Hey, once again, the focus has obviously shifted in this project. It isnt necessarily bad. Just true.
No point to argue further here though. Its time to re-evaluate.
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Barabbas great insight as always ignoring everything positive going on contributing nothing but negative speculation. You only seem to post when the price is not to your liking. Have never seen any positive contribution from you. I don't see you donating https://fundraise.nbcf.org/fundraise?fcid=320114 but complain there is not enough donations see plenty of that. I see you add no tech or software to the project but feel that the 'devs' should work tirelessly for nothing but criticism from you. This is a community coin and the community takes an active part in its development. You have been posting on here for months acting like the 'devs' owe you something trying your best to personally offend anyone that has a different opinion than you. If you feel the coin is not going in a direction that you believe in, contribute something that you feel useful to the project. I have already questioned your motives in this thread as some senior members have warned of your caustic effect on a community. They are right you have no place here this is a place for positive contributors. barabbas is a fuckstick its another one of iconic experts fake account, just lgnore the loser You really must be some new kind of dumb. Really. @sony... Yep. Just like you read. You see offensive and antagonistic is to attack somrone because you personally dont like him... which id what I NEVER, EVER do. But it is obvious uou just dont want to get it. Others though do. And, by the way, the offensive and antagonistic ALSO apply to those posts that serve no purpose whatsoever -such as yours- othrr than provoke responses like this one in which I have exercised much more restrain than you deserve. |
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Barabbas great insight as always ignoring everything positive going on contributing nothing but negative speculation. You only seem to post when the price is not to your liking. Have never seen any positive contribution from you. I don't see you donating https://fundraise.nbcf.org/fundraise?fcid=320114 but complain there is not enough donations see plenty of that. I see you add no tech or software to the project but feel that the 'devs' should work tirelessly for nothing but criticism from you. This is a community coin and the community takes an active part in its development. You have been posting on here for months acting like the 'devs' owe you something trying your best to personally offend anyone that has a different opinion than you. If you feel the coin is not going in a direction that you believe in, contribute something that you feel useful to the project. I have already questioned your motives in this thread as some senior members have warned of your caustic effect on a community. They are right you have no place here this is a place for positive contributors. This is about yhe firection of the project not about what you think of me -that, believe me, isnt any worse than what I think of you- so if you have anything to bring to that plate, fo it. Otherwise just stfo for you are specifically contributing to create an antagonistic and offensive atmosphere. Yes you. Specifically and for no purpose whatsoever. For anything personsl thrre is available a very effective pm system here. |
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Once again I would call upon the dev team to take a pause in whatever it is they are doing in the background and, numero uno, bring everything forward so the community is fully aware and encouraged by the prospects.
But, perhaps more importantly, the perception in general is that PINK has begin to stray from the initial path. I don't want to sound negative but what ever happened to the transparent pink wallets, available anywhere, any promotions going on? Owl seemed to have been bent on doing something in Canada and, as far as I know, nothing (else) has been done...
One of the (important) objectives of the original revamped Pinkcoin was to promote AND CONTRIBUTE to charities... Now that all seems a vague memory with no practical purpose of effects.
PINK has become, at least in the people's perception, quite the opposite as some vice-enabling vehicle connected directly to POKER, of all things. What does that bring to PINK exactly? Yes I know Danny is a professional poker player but any advantages at all of such connection? In what way? What was the net result of last Saturday's "tournament"? It was supposed to be a big promotional thing... and has brought the price down instead 20-30%...
PINK is also being perceived now as a seller -via auction, on occasion- of it's software to the highest bidder... for the personal benefit of it's developers, NOT the PINK project. The "good guys" do not do that, do they?
As for the unofficial Danny Johnson Show on You Tube, I hope that idea -and any future chapters- has been permanently "delayed"...
Like I said, I believe it's due time for reflection... and subsequent action.
Why are you so damn angry and negative all the time when you are posting? Come on, people have a life and doesn't need to always tell you what they are up to. I am very sure that you could write a post and tell your message without being so annoying. This is not the first time you are writing like this. Instead of being like that, consider to change the way you are writing and be positive. regards Anoxy I am not angry. I am a bit disappointed thouhh with the apparent new direction of PINK and that is the reason for my post. It is painfully obvious that PINK has gone, at least temporarily, in a direction quite opposite of what it was initially. Charity? When? Whrre? How much? Thst's what PINK set out to do... and, to my knowledge, NADA. The 2 million "tournament", wasnt for charity was it? Not even a portion... whats the promotional advantage of that? That's just gambling... which is quite the opposite of where PINK sef up to do. Lottrry? Also gambling. Mind you i am not opposed necessarily to change, but when chsnges mean actually leaving the original path, perhaps it od time to reflect, reevaluatr and set a new path. A frustratdd fayolkng hss answered (NOT) without addressing any of the key questions: why are thry now sellkng for personal profit software created for the project, the pink project? Thats not being the good guys. Its either open, therefore freely available to rveryobe or PINKs only. NEVER sold (or given to friends only). The other question: what ever happened to the transparent wallets, the other merchandise? My undrrstanding was Owl was doing some ptomotion with them in Canada.... is that done? Did it have any repercussions? Are there pictures? Any support for similar initiatives? Or is that part of the development -theres tech development and promotionsl development, both are developments- abandoned? There's no anger, just quite relevant questions, i belueve, many pinkers will be interested in getting answers to. Others, no doubt, if disappointed by ghe new direction, would have already cashed out and left. Without asking any questions... but perhsps quite enraged. Been drinking barabbas? Q: Charity? When? Whrre? How much? A: Here: https://fundraise.nbcf.org/fundraise?fcid=320114 and here http://lottery.pink/ Q: The 2 million "tournament", wasnt for charity was it? Not even a portion... whats the promotional advantage of that? A: No sir. A professional poker player Brian Pellegrino challenged Cayce, we attempted to capitalize by marketing the event. This was not initiated and/or planned by the dev team. Q: Lottrry? A: Gambling, yes. Also a great marketing tool that has brought in more investors than you have scared away. Oh, and it is our #1 source for raising funds for our charity  Q: why are thry now sellkng for personal profit software created for the project, the pink project? A: We are not selling for personal profit, instead helping those whom have helped us. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours." Q: The other question: what ever happened to the transparent wallets, the other merchandise? A: Some were sold, some were given away, most are still sitting in a box on the shelf. Q: My undrrstanding was Owl was doing some ptomotion with them in Canada.... is that done? A: Your understanding is incorrect here. 0wl bought the cards to sell and raise money for the charity. He/we have been waiting for PwP to put them up for sale. The planned Canada (Toronto) event was m_ad_max, and I don't believe this has gone any further that being a "discussion". I assume you will request that I answer these all again in a day or 2, so I will elaborate than if necessary. This is a bit too much, really: 1.- 9 people total have donated in over 4 months. A total of just over 600 dollars... half of which have been donated by 3 generous individuals... none of which is a dev here. Latest donation is dated over 40 days ago. Alive? Promoted? Hardly. No wonder we are now, among other things, "the poker coin". 2.- Lottery a promotion tool... ok. Biggest charity contributor? Ok. Embarrassing though for all it hss provided so dar is less than what those aforementioned donations have. Bringing in new investors? Your personal wishful thinking no doubt. Nothing substantive behind that exercise in absurdity. 3.- besides "you scratch my back and I scratch yours" being a mafia mantra (a different kind of "good guys" altogether) yes we are selling -and auctioning- software for personal profit. No ifs no buts. What does it mean in the op the line in bold red? But we are now also it appears in the business of promoting friends' coins. Branching out indeed ...in all the wrong directions. 4.- Thank you for corroborating that no real promotion has been done and no wallets/tshirys have been distributed. It hsd been quite obvious that the focus is in a totally different direction... or lack thereoff. 5.-If the main dev as well as ghe face of PINK is involved in a poker challenge fully advertised in the official thread it IS a pinkcoin event regardless. Anyway I just wanted to light the yellow light and suggest reflection for it is obvious the path direction and target of Pinkcoin has diverted from the original objectives. This is now the poker coin no longer the good guys (good fellas, maybe). I see now it was already too late. |
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Dev has delivered from day one. No bullshit. There is a working twitter bot. Stop the fud. Devs can remain anon. Should remain anon. If you disagree, do not buy. You will be missing out.
What if he leaves tomorrow, what do you do with the bot? What bot is worth 94 btc? A tip bot??? PINK has it for free... along with a lot otherr features.... But key question again: If this phantom dev leaves tomorrow, what do you do? What can you do? |
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Once again I would call upon the dev team to take a pause in whatever it is they are doing in the background and, numero uno, bring everything forward so the community is fully aware and encouraged by the prospects.
But, perhaps more importantly, the perception in general is that PINK has begin to stray from the initial path. I don't want to sound negative but what ever happened to the transparent pink wallets, available anywhere, any promotions going on? Owl seemed to have been bent on doing something in Canada and, as far as I know, nothing (else) has been done...
One of the (important) objectives of the original revamped Pinkcoin was to promote AND CONTRIBUTE to charities... Now that all seems a vague memory with no practical purpose of effects.
PINK has become, at least in the people's perception, quite the opposite as some vice-enabling vehicle connected directly to POKER, of all things. What does that bring to PINK exactly? Yes I know Danny is a professional poker player but any advantages at all of such connection? In what way? What was the net result of last Saturday's "tournament"? It was supposed to be a big promotional thing... and has brought the price down instead 20-30%...
PINK is also being perceived now as a seller -via auction, on occasion- of it's software to the highest bidder... for the personal benefit of it's developers, NOT the PINK project. The "good guys" do not do that, do they?
As for the unofficial Danny Johnson Show on You Tube, I hope that idea -and any future chapters- has been permanently "delayed"...
Like I said, I believe it's due time for reflection... and subsequent action.
Why are you so damn angry and negative all the time when you are posting? Come on, people have a life and doesn't need to always tell you what they are up to. I am very sure that you could write a post and tell your message without being so annoying. This is not the first time you are writing like this. Instead of being like that, consider to change the way you are writing and be positive. regards Anoxy I am not angry. I am a bit disappointed thouhh with the apparent new direction of PINK and that is the reason for my post. It is painfully obvious that PINK has gone, at least temporarily, in a direction quite opposite of what it was initially. Charity? When? Whrre? How much? Thst's what PINK set out to do... and, to my knowledge, NADA. The 2 million "tournament", wasnt for charity was it? Not even a portion... whats the promotional advantage of that? That's just gambling... which is quite the opposite of where PINK sef up to do. Lottrry? Also gambling. Mind you i am not opposed necessarily to change, but when chsnges mean actually leaving the original path, perhaps it od time to reflect, reevaluatr and set a new path. A frustratdd fayolkng hss answered (NOT) without addressing any of the key questions: why are thry now sellkng for personal profit software created for the project, the pink project? Thats not being the good guys. Its either open, therefore freely available to rveryobe or PINKs only. NEVER sold (or given to friends only). The other question: what ever happened to the transparent wallets, the other merchandise? My undrrstanding was Owl was doing some ptomotion with them in Canada.... is that done? Did it have any repercussions? Are there pictures? Any support for similar initiatives? Or is that part of the development -theres tech development and promotionsl development, both are developments- abandoned? There's no anger, just quite relevant questions, i belueve, many pinkers will be interested in getting answers to. Others, no doubt, if disappointed by ghe new direction, would have already cashed out and left. Without asking any questions... but perhsps quite enraged. |
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Reflect on this: If gaga leaves with his 93 btc, what will you do? What can you do?
What a predicamebt ah?
Oh you WILL learn (the hard way of course) the cost of "doing business" with anonymous individuals. You will indeed.
But, he didn't leave with the coins. So, there shouldn't be any false accusations going on. What should investors think when the anonymous dev doesnt give any signals of life in the face of a crumble in the price that has lost more than 80% of its value in s downfall spiral? You tell me/us... |
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Reflect on this: If gaga leaves with his 93 btc, what will you do? What can you do?
What a predicamebt ah?
Oh you WILL learn (the hard way of course) the cost of "doing business" with anonymous individuals. You will indeed.
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If you believe in Xbot coins you should use your money to promote Xbot coins on twitter. https://ads.twitter.com/You get get a lot of people in the bitcoin industry to buy Xbot using the twitter advertisement campaign. You don't' need to wait for the Dev to use his ICO money to pay for advertising. As a coin holder of Xbot, you can use your own money to promote on twitter. But havent you heard? The dev seems to have left... Let this be the last time you will be posting on this thread. In case you forgot, this is a self moderated and you should cease posting henceforth. Enough with your dumb post. Are you talking to me or Barabbas ? No, Barabbas commented "But havent you heard? The dev seems to have left..." His agenda is to bring the price down with FUD. Actually my agenda, my only agenda, is to get you to show your face and be accountable. What a concept ah? Hurry hurry delete this before others catch the same "bug"... |
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If you believe in Xbot coins you should use your money to promote Xbot coins on twitter. https://ads.twitter.com/You get get a lot of people in the bitcoin industry to buy Xbot using the twitter advertisement campaign. You don't' need to wait for the Dev to use his ICO money to pay for advertising. As a coin holder of Xbot, you can use your own money to promote on twitter. But havent you heard? The dev seems to have left... |
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Hey guys just wanted to give an update. We have used this relativley low volume, low interest summer to really work on the backend, make strategic partnerships, build the infrastructure, and a build a new wallet UI, a new foundation. The new wallet is on the main branch of github if your on Linux, it's in its final form. We are making some minor formatting details universal across all operating systems and tweaking things here and there for optimal performance and experience, till it's just right. Then we will release final builds for the three OSes. Thanks for being there with us through thick and thin, it doesn't go unnoticed and is appreciated. After the release we will do a hangout and update everyone on the new stuff and goings on behind the scenes. I believe thin is behind us and I am excited about the future of VeriCoin and hope you are too!
Ok James, just for you I won't ... but the prospect of yet another "thrilling" hang out at this point is a bit too much, dont you think? |
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yo barabas remeber when i got you a warning and almost got you banned for being psychotic and malicious? pretty sure you even got suspended...
That'll be the day... dream much loser? |
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GNS Wish I had more time because the amount of shitcoins invading the markets are amazingly increasing. Still. Case in point, GNS. First of all the whole poinbt of this aberration is not even creating a coin but creating a front to sell a "bot". And what does that "bot" do? Theoretically, it will make you money -for a price, of course- by arbitraging. Confused about that? It works like this: While Bittrex may have, let's say Darkcoin offered at 0.00800. Cryptsy may have buyers offering 0.00805 for DRK. And Mintpal at 0.00803. And Cex-E at 0.00798. So this bot will buy for you the cheapest offered and sell it to the highest bidder automatically. Potentially, hundreds of times a day. Small gains, but no risk and multiplied by hundreds, boom: Money, big money. Of course you need to have trading accounts on all those exchanges and the margins will only be significant if those accounts are rather significantly funded... So the guy "Sevith", the "developer" wants to make a shitload of money selling this "bot". And that's why he copy/pasted his way into the new iteration of the utmost shitcoin: GNS. This "Sevith" has gained, hands down, the title of the dumbest "developer" in crypto history, by miles. Guess what he did, within a couple of days of launch: He dumped 1 million coin, roughly 2/3rds of his entire premine of 7% (yes, you read correctly: 7% premine). But I could not possibly describe the levels of dumbness exhibited here even remotely as well as his own very words on IRC. Please read them in this post and the one with transcript from IRC below it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782154.msg8949904#msg8949904One really has to see this to actually believe it. Wow! The coin is still active and has increased in price today. Your so against this coin it sounds like your trying to put bad light on it just to drive the price down. You belong on this wall of shame for trying to manipulate the market! I could care less what the market does. I just post the realities. And, no matter how flair-full, reality seems to continuously surpass them. Latest example, that very smart developer just closed the unmoderated thread to start one fully censored in which he can post his bullshit without any critical voices. Need I say more? As for price going higher, on volume of a few BTC, I don't know but maybe some P&D maybe shaping up? I just warn of what I clearly see, you prefer to bet on it? Be my guest! But what am I saying?  ? You are THIS guys, Savith, under a new handle -of the confirmed several you are using-. Funny. Funny indeed. I know you are not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but you DO know that people can check all of your 10 posts, don't you? Simply amazing... |
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Once again I would call upon the dev team to take a pause in whatever it is they are doing in the background and, numero uno, bring everything forward so the community is fully aware and encouraged by the prospects.
But, perhaps more importantly, the perception in general is that PINK has begin to stray from the initial path. I don't want to sound negative but what ever happened to the transparent pink wallets, available anywhere, any promotions going on? Owl seemed to have been bent on doing something in Canada and, as far as I know, nothing (else) has been done...
One of the (important) objectives of the original revamped Pinkcoin was to promote AND CONTRIBUTE to charities... Now that all seems a vague memory with no practical purpose of effects.
PINK has become, at least in the people's perception, quite the opposite as some vice-enabling vehicle connected directly to POKER, of all things. What does that bring to PINK exactly? Yes I know Danny is a professional poker player but any advantages at all of such connection? In what way? What was the net result of last Saturday's "tournament"? It was supposed to be a big promotional thing... and has brought the price down instead 20-30%...
PINK is also being perceived now as a seller -via auction, on occasion- of it's software to the highest bidder... for the personal benefit of it's developers, NOT the PINK project. The "good guys" do not do that, do they?
As for the unofficial Danny Johnson Show on You Tube, I hope that idea -and any future chapters- has been permanently "delayed"...
Like I said, I believe it's due time for reflection... and subsequent action.
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So what's going on here now? Piccolo miccolo is out I understand, doing his chasis for miners I suppose... and the other "genius", the "community manager" is also out?
If so, maybe there's a hint of hope after all... well, not really but how could it hurt?
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