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2201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 17, 2011, 04:02:53 PM
What you think the CH is going to sue you if you ban him from forum going to court requires revealing your identity and BTW I seem to remember reading in the BCX debacle that if he was lying the account was gone so double standard at work here or what??.

Let me put on my tinfoil hat and say that something smells fishy here.
It's not a double-standard. Had BCX lied about his attack, he would have been trolling. If CH is lying, then he just pirating software, and that has nothing to do with the forum. As for why we'd try our hardest not to ban CoinHunter, that's because we don't want to EVER ban people here, especially for something as stupid as this. As I'm not an administrator, though, I can't say for certain what would happen.

Lying to mods is not a bannable offense.

Are you saying that trolling is a bannable offense?
Uhh... Yeah? You didn't know this? Of course, we always weigh the troll posts you make against the value of your normal posts. If your signal-to-noise ratio gets too high, however, you're out of here.
2202  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 17, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
Have you considered having the trusted nodes assigned to their own difficulty target? Instead of always using diff 1, do regular difficulty retargets on the trusted chain based on how quickly each trusted block was solved after their previous normal block, over x amount of trusted blocks. This is even reverse-compatible with the current chain. Just start having clients enforce it in a later version.

No need to always reinvent the wheel...

I think this would make a trusted node attack easier because an attacker who has a lot of hashing power could make it impossible for any other trusted node to generate blocks.
Ah, that's a good point.

In that case, the other solution is to do away with having the trusted nodes actually make blocks altogether (it's a stupid idea since it forces the network to be idle for a good amount of time) and instead move toward having trusted nodes sign the forks that they consider correct. See:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27787.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37194.0
2203  Other / Meta / Re: Was BitcoinTalk Hacked? on: October 17, 2011, 03:38:54 PM
I split off that thread because it was all off-topic. Unfortunately, that split didn't really keep a common theme, so I locked it until/unless another mod wants to take the time to sort it. Normally, I would just delete that stuff, but there was so much of it that I didn't feel I should, hence the split-lock.
2204  Other / Meta / Re: Revive Bitcoinduit! on: October 17, 2011, 05:02:59 AM
I honestly think you guys don't remember how bad things got. Almost every thread on the first page was Bitcoinduit, and most of them had only one or two posts.

I don't think we'll be seeing that kind of spam these days.  Bitcoinduit is essentially dead and Bitponzi is not very well-maintained.  If it gets really bad (and I doubt it will) we could always change the policy back.
You said it yourself that it was this forum policy that killed Bitcoinduit. It stands to reason that removing the policy will revive the site, bringing the spam back in full-force.
2205  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: October 17, 2011, 04:57:08 AM
Have you considered having the trusted nodes assigned to their own difficulty target? Instead of always using diff 1, do regular difficulty retargets on the trusted chain based on how quickly each trusted block was solved after their previous normal block, over x amount of trusted blocks. This is even reverse-compatible with the current chain. Just start having clients enforce it in a later version.

No need to always reinvent the wheel...
2206  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Ragnar - I really need to speak to him. on: October 17, 2011, 04:49:17 AM
I already PM'd your information to him, but whatever, your call. It won't be my fault if this thread gets trolled while no mods are on.
2207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 17, 2011, 04:43:34 AM
Lying to mods is not a bannable offense.

I think lying to community members about your cryptocurrency should be a bannable offense— after all, if you don't do so you're just enabling people to defraud others since people make guesses about the value of those currencies based in part on the claims people make.

I agree. I'm not sure why lying to mods is not a bannable offense. If you don't punish people for lying to you, then why would anyone tell you the truth if they have something to hide? It doesn't make sense to me. If anything, I think lying to mods is the worse than just trolling. When someone's trolling and it bothers people, people can just ignore them. If someone is outright lying and trying to defraud others, how is that different than being a scammer?

Of course, I'm not saying that CoinHunter is indeed lying. But if he (or anyone else) is caught lying to mods, they should be punished. Maybe give them a scammer label.
Lying isn't a bannable offense, but it's not a good idea, either. If we ever ask you something and you lie to us, we are forced to ignore your statement and only use whatever other evidence is available to us. In fact, we usually won't even bother talking to you unless we feel that your side of the story might shed some light on things and we have enough evidence to take an action, anyway.

Again, lies for the sake of trolling are still bannable. For example, if you lie about someone being a scammer, or if you pretend your account was hacked and waste administrator time having it recovered. Pretty much any lie that causes us to pointlessly waste time will result in a ban. Otherwise, lying is fair game.
2208  Other / Meta / Re: Revive Bitcoinduit! on: October 17, 2011, 04:27:54 AM
I honestly think you guys don't remember how bad things got. Almost every thread on the first page was Bitcoinduit, and most of them had only one or two posts.
2209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 17, 2011, 04:25:50 AM
Lying to mods is not a bannable offense.

I think lying to community members about your cryptocurrency should be a bannable offense— after all, if you don't do so you're just enabling people to defraud others since people make guesses about the value of those currencies based in part on the claims people make.
Alas, I can't make policy decisions. Post in Meta where theymos will hear you.
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 17, 2011, 03:49:34 AM
What you think the CH is going to sue you if you ban him from forum going to court requires revealing your identity and BTW I seem to remember reading in the BCX debacle that if he was lying the account was gone so double standard at work here or what??.

Let me put on my tinfoil hat and say that something smells fishy here.
It's not a double-standard. Had BCX lied about his attack, he would have been trolling. If CH is lying, then he just pirating software, and that has nothing to do with the forum. As for why we'd try our hardest not to ban CoinHunter, that's because we don't want to EVER ban people here, especially for something as stupid as this. As I'm not an administrator, though, I can't say for certain what would happen.

Lying to mods is not a bannable offense.
2211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Banned from #solidcoin on: October 17, 2011, 03:43:31 AM
I'm just gonna close this under the "No zero-value threads" policy. This is just beyond stupid. That'd get you banned in ANY channel.
2212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 17, 2011, 02:20:07 AM
CoinHunter says that he's licensed, so unless Oracle (AND ONLY ORACLE) specifically tells us otherwise, I consider this matter closed.

Good now that he has locked in a reply I take it if he is lying that means no account right??
Not necessarily. That'd depend on what our lawyers say. Of course, I'd hate to have theymos hire a lawyer from our forum improvement fund, so it'd be best if we never knew.
2213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 17, 2011, 01:59:31 AM
CoinHunter says that he's licensed, so unless Oracle (AND ONLY ORACLE) specifically tells us otherwise, I consider this matter closed.
2214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 16, 2011, 06:02:25 AM
Are you trying to kill this forum? I've told you why it was bad to pursue this, but you have persisted. Now that I have read your reply, I may be legally obligated to do exactly what you asked. Of course, CoinHunter doesn't really have to tell me the truth. However, if we are ever approached by Oracle with information that contradicts his response, we might be legally obligated to ban his account.

God damn it.
2215  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Scammer... on: October 16, 2011, 05:50:22 AM
I have verified that this is a known scammer, hence the tag.
2216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 16, 2011, 05:37:01 AM
Yes I am sure it used BDB.  I used hex editor and opened the dat files.  Likely wasn't necessary because his ripped the entire structure from bitcoin.

He may have a license but my understanding is that commercial licenses from Oracle start in tens of thousands and for something as widely distributed as ScamCoin likely are in the hundreds of thousands.  Had SolidCoin community obtained such a high value license one would imagine there would be something, a post, a blog entry, a forum thread, a line in the FAQ, something.

My guess is Real Solid didn't even realize he couldn't ripoff other people's work, make it close source and keep using BDB for free.
Again, I can't make that assumption, as unlikely as it may be to be wrong, without proof. At the end of the day, all it would do is cause more work for the mods and remove a few links. We wouldn't ban CH, since this would just be considered a single infraction. We also wouldn't ban discussing SolidCoin. In many ways, the topics would become quite similar to Silk Road threads, and I HATE Silk Road threads since that means I always have to read every post to make sure nobody starts linking to it, or otherwise tell people how to find it, and also that nobody mentions specific deals.
2217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinHunter failed BIGTIME while trying to post as one of his sockpuppets :D on: October 16, 2011, 05:25:39 AM
Maged:

Where would be the best place to start a poll-thread to get all non-bitcoin blockchains removed from the bitcointalk.org forum?

Would theymos even pay attention to it if 90% of the users voted on it?
Meta, but it won't happen. The only reason this board exists was because I finally told theymos that if he didn't either make this board or ban the topic altogether immediately, I was going to start deleting all the alt-currency threads.

Now, stick to the topic at hand, shall we? (or PM me instead of trying to communicate with me in a thread)
2218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinHunter failed BIGTIME while trying to post as one of his sockpuppets :D on: October 16, 2011, 05:13:42 AM
Edit: I wrote this before I saw Matthew's excellent post. Just in case he missed something I mentioned, though, I decided to post it anyway.

Let me break this down:

Coinhunter can't zap coins.
Statement of fact in third person. Completely valid from CoinHunter's prospective.

If the network allowed it, it would be an insecure network able to be controlled by people I don't like.

Rephrased: "I wouldn't use a network myself if the original creator could zap coins whenever they want". It was poorly phrased and didn't use the right prospective, but that would make sense. Perhaps the first line was edited after he wrote this and forgot to re-edit this line?

Only reason I asked him to move it is so everyone would know he couldn't. Instead he makes up some more bs about why he can't do it and gullible people eat it up. Haha, this forum is comedy gold.
Direct response to this:
According to BitcoinEXpress, he can't move his coins without attracting attention and CH/RS and his trusted nodes can remotely zap his client and render his transactions void. So when he tried to move large amounts of coins, that's what happens. If it's true, it's seriously wrong.

And the whole thing with CoinHunter asking BitcoinEXpress to move a large amount of coins to prove himself is interesting. CoinHunter may be just baiting BitcoinEXpress to move those coins so that they can remotely nullify them.

I think the truth will come out eventually...
"I" = CoinHunter
"he" = BitcoinEXpress

You don't think a bigger story here is "CoinHunter zaps coins" ? Seriously, he could damage SolidCoin more by moving his 250K coins and me "zapping" them than just pretending it can all happen. If he wants to damage SC2.0, move the coins and let me "zap them", and then we can see how "centralized" SolidCoin is. Smiley
Rephrased: "You don't think that it'd be a bigger story than BitcoinEXpress crashing the market if it turned out that I really could zap coins"?


That being said, I think this boils down to CH not realizing how powerful his "trusted nodes" are, since he's such a bad developer. All it takes is him not allowing the trusted nodes to accept and build on a block containing blacklisted transactions and the coins are essentially "zapped".
2219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin 2 Release - Monday 10th October 23:35 UTC on: October 16, 2011, 04:50:58 AM
I think so.  Any mod want to comment on bitcointalk policy on advertising & promoting pirated software?
Are we sure that he isn't licensed? Does SolidCoin even use BDB (I wouldn't know, since I don't have it installed)?

Since I somehow doubt that you can prove a negative, we won't be able to do anything about it until we hear from someone at Oracle. If it turns out that he is pirating BDB, though, I would suspect that policy would be to remove every link that points directly or indirectly (one hop) to the client. Most links to solidcointalk would be safe, since fortunately there isn't a big download button on each forum page.
2220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinHunter failed BIGTIME while trying to post as one of his sockpuppets :D on: October 16, 2011, 04:16:18 AM
Folks, read the post again, but in context. It'll make much more sense. CoinHunter was merely referring to himself in the third person. You'll notice, however, that references to "me" allow apply to CoinHunter.
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