Not sure if I'm within the circle of this investigators since my contribution for this sector is very low, but my two cents for this issue at hand fall alongside the line of what lovesmayfamilis said


I believe it is not a secret that those newbies coming here with half effort on their findings is to chase merits, thus, "the more newbie investigations get merits, the more rubbish you will see in this thread." although I have to beg to slightly differ, as probably some newbies or low ranked members did a wholesome effort on their investigations.

I am agree that the most efficient way to prevent "merit abuse" on this thread lies on the hand of the merit giver to hold themselves from giving merits so easily, and DT to properly review the reports made both by newbies or other questionable report with weak proof and then properly tag those who deserve red tag.

A slight difference that I have in mind from lovesmayfamilis is the classic reward and punishment system. Merit is what lures newbies to come to this thread giving dubious reports, so let's introduce its counterpart: the punishment.

Not a punishment per se, just a neutral tag on the accounts who frequently give baseless findings. That tag would serve as a side note for proper investigators, BM, and DT to address the urgency of the reports. Newbies with several neutral tags stating they have multiple false reports would indicate they have a tendency to do half assed investigation, and thus their reports didn't deserve an urgency to be checked. On the contrary, they deserve the ignore button if they continue on bringing false-investigation at their hand.

No harm done for those account itself, they're not tagged with red so they can still get access to most things on this forum, their post will just not appeared properly on this thread for those who hit ignore button on their account, thus preventing them from gaining merit in the future from this thread even if those future investigations are deep and thorough. With this, by a "threat" that their efforts will gave them nothing --and even worse, it'll probably hinder them from gaining merit in the future-- hopefully it'll encourage them to double check their "findings" before reporting it.

The ignore button will also saving this thread cohabitant's --read: the investigators, BM, and DT-- time from reinvestigating accounts that is not actually in need to be investigated.

If you care enough of your project as well as being properly mentored by an industry veteran, you'll consider to just take the essence of the said document that effectively describe different kind of AMM instead of blatantly copying them. I would question the knowledge you gained from this mentor if they allows (lest advise) you to use other people's work. Again, business ethic. As I've previously said here and there, I am a firm believer that there is a difference between "taking an idea from someone and made your own from it" and "stealing people's work".

But let's not dwell just on this matter, as I am sure it is rather a stalemate. You'll insist that you didn't do anything wrong while this forum would lean toward their well spoken official-unofficial rule of plagiarism. As you said that you're well mentored by an industry veteran, I am rather sure that veteran has informed you the importance of credibility, brand equity, trust, etc. as well? That's the business 101. So, I would humbly asked you to grace us with unveiling the team behind this project. If you're really serious with the project and has no intention to scam people, you're certainly wouldn't mind to be doxxed in exchange to gain some of people's trust?

I have to admit, you piqued my curiosity, and given you're still online today, I think you deemed this forum rather not-useless?

One thing to address first --since I don't think you will respond to those eye opening posts made by me and others about how you should start to learn the proper way to use the internet-- is how your post history revealed that you've been once fell into a scammer which made you lost 200$. You have my sympathy on this, given that you're still rather new to the forum and probably didn't know well that dealing with newbies should be done with cautions --and escrow, preferably--, but judging from your next post on other thread --completely unrelated to the topic on that thread-- we can see that you have the tendency to... distribute blames like santa during christmas.


Rikafip even gave you a nice advise, which shows that member of this forum --contrary to your belief-- helps and took care of each of their members, which you simply didn't heed on this most recent case because you're too lazy to look for other escrow --or probably even bother doing anything to make your transaction secure. Probably because, "hey, I can always distribute the blame to anyone on the forum."


But all above is not the only reason why I poke you again. It's also because of this:



The situation is, you asked for Ms. Office Home & Business, bumping your thread several times and Sutairu finally approached you by saying that they've PM you on telegram. Being scammed once by Sutairu, nguyentung97 was actually kind enough to warn you that Sutairu is a scammer --tagged the scammer, btw-- so that the same unfortunate fate that fell upon them didn't fell on you too. If you even bother to look at the screenshots, you'll see that nguyentung97 gave a good evidence for your reference on how Sutairu ignored them after they send payment. Your reaction? A rage post.

I changed my mind. Please take your leave from this forum, you and your toxic behavior will do us a favor by leaving us alone. Sayonara.

First of all, never heard of those forums, but a quick google search told me that both forums are a cracking forum. Not gonna questions your morals here for using cracked programs --and from your post history, it seems that is your line of works-- because hey, who hasn't ever used a free cracked program? But, comparing a cracking community and an open crypto forum is like comparing an apple to a spaghetti. If you deemed this forum useless though, you are free to leave. Kindly take comfort in the thought that took place in each of our heart that you'll be sorely missed.

One thing that you should bear in mind though, this forum didn't just let scammers run free scamming their loyal members. The very board where you post this thread is the living proof of it. They gave a space for people to report the scam attempt and if the accusations is proven to be true, actions will be taken. There are a lot of people dedicating their time to hunt for scammers and report them here properly. They dedicate their day to do a dig on projects to prevent other people from being scammed. So before you leave for good, please withdraw that harsh and heart stabbing soul clenching statement that hurts our core so deeply.

And what shameful is, IMO, how you get from one to 180 just because someone asked for more details. People on this forum will do something about the case that is, apparently, a mortal thorn to your flesh. But we are not passing judgement simply by a statement without evidence, a hearsay if you prefer the more official term. There are protocols to be taken, and I am rather sure this applies to a lot of platform, even the judicial system of the world itself will not persecute someone just because someone else said they stole from him without proper evidence. Certainly you'll agree that it's not fair if I came to the police in your country --wherever that is-- and ask you to be jailed because you stole something from me, and they did exactly that without requiring me to provide details and evidences?

If the two forums you said above, who --if I may conclude from your apple-to-spaghetti comparison, protect their members by blindly throwing ban hammer to anyone simply by a hearsay without asking for proper evidence, I would advise to stay away from those forum instead of the ones who took proper course like this forum.

Now, for point number 1, why should you share your personal conversation with all users --not all, actually, just a handfull or even nonexistent according to your earlier statement-- I'll invite you to be properly acquainted with a term called "rule" and "guidelines". We live in a world that follows rules and guidelines, it is what prevent chaos falling upon us. As for this case, I'd like you to meet forum's rule and guideline to report a scam. Kindly allow me to quote the guideline for you so you can see them easier:


I've nicely leave something in red for you to consider. If you still insist to not giving the evidences and
choose ask for forum moderator to ban the said user because no one have the power to do anything for that thorn in your flesh though, I wonder why you even bother wasting your time to create this thread? You're more than welcome to directly PM the mods. The mod for this board will be Cyrus. Just... don't act so surprised if he asked you to provide evidences or follow the proper protocol by filing you accusation on an accusation board --yes, this very thread, so it'll be easier to just gives the evidence here. Mods of this forum are not the ones who passes ban hammer blindly, they're not a fan of whack-a-mole.

Number two, I believe there is this notification system on forum's PM that warns people to be careful if they get a message from newbies. This is why they have rank system, which further reinforced by the rule of merit, to make it harder for people to randomly create tens of thousands of account and rank them up for the sole purpose of building credentials to scam others. A small tip: verifying users' telegram is very easy on this forum. Check their post history, there is a chance that they posted their tg handler somewhere on some thread. If they didn't, PM them. A "hello, are you the tg handler of --let's say-- @iamnotascammer who PM me on telegram?" is more than enough to get the ties of the account and the tg verified. It's called due diligence. If you didn't do your DD on each of your transaction and ends up being scammed by someone at one point just because they say they're from this forum, let alone the one with almost nonexistent activity and whose account has been dormant for so long, wouldn't it be cruel to blame it on the forum?

For the tricks, though, oh please, dont turn your recklessness into a blind rage and blame it on someone, nor put words to other people's lips. I didn't educate anyone of a very brilliant and mindblowing scam method, it's an old trick used by many, claiming someone else's account or credentials as their own to scam people. If this is new news for you, I'd firstly congratulate you for finally moving out from the rock you've been under for so long, followed by an advice to broaden your horizon.

Number three, hmm... you put me in a very tight and difficult dilemma, a legendary member refuses to provide escrow service for a logical and acceptable reason --he can not guarantee the sellers keys will work. Oh dear Luci, what a very difficult situation indeed. Now I can see your difficult situation. If only there are other escrow services on this forum, oh dear, not even a list or two, clearly it is forum's fault to make our so difficult to get a secure transaction which made people ended up being scammed.

See? My last sentence is called a sarcasm, in case that is a new thing for you too. And the content of the sentence is what we call a DD. If you didn't do your DD, it's your fault. We are here to help as best as we can. If you refuse to get the help by following the proper format though, there's nothing we can do. One thing you can do for sure is to man up and own the blame instead of throwing and sharing them to as many entities as you can. This is not a black friday sale, no one interested and enthusiastic enough to be blamed for something that's entirely not their fault, or to be the punching bag of your very own incompetence.

So this is the summary: if you want to file a scam accusation, there is a format that is rather required and preferred by the forum, which in it, includes the action of giving evidences. We didn't persecute blindly here. Also, please don't keep your hopes high. The account --as previously and repeately stated-- that's supposed to be the scammer's account is a newbie account. Best we can give you is banning the user, but as the account itself awfully looks like a disposable account, it won't affect the scammers too much. Suppose the account is indeed scamming you, the real owner is probably has hundreds of other accounts. That is why, my sweet sugar cube, practice cautions whenever you trade with newbie accounts. The forum has facilitate best security it can offer, the decision to utilize the tools provided is entirely lies on the common sense of each of the user.

P.s.: i know what'll probably crossed your mind while reading this nice rant of mine. I've safe you some time, don't bother typing it again, I've state what's on your mind --and other people I've wronged, either by exposing their scam attempt or giving back their nicely arranged rage post that's wrongly addressed-- on my personal message, right there on the left part of this post, below my stat. You're welcome... and adieu, in case you still deemed this forum is not worthy enough of your mighty presence.

Let's see... how many percentage of token do you actually have?

50% for Mr. Zelenski
50% locked for LP
50% burned
50% for the Ukrainian --which hopefully worth 9B dollars--

So you have 200% token? What?

And how on earth do you have the president's personal wallet address? Is this published for public somewhere?

Can't see why you need to wait for a legendary member to share your evidence. If you raise an accusation against someone, you should as well brings the supporting evidences ti back up your claim with or without having someone to ask.

Two, how sure are you that the tg username who scammed you is the owner of the account in reference and not someone else using the inactive account as their... "collateral"? The said account's last activity was five months ago, just day after his account is created.

Three... why do you even trust someone with such details --newbie, one day old account, never to be seen on the forum anymore, most likely an alt account of someone-- to have a transaction with?

Exactly like what's been buzzing on my mind since I visited this thread. The very first thing I do was clicking that link above as I thought the numbers were somewhat a fancy ref link --now I don't think it is. I've downloaded their whitepaper, haven't read them as my mind refuses to work anything harder than typing right now, but from what I can gather strolling through their site, they didn't offer a ponzi scheme. At best, it was a metaverse project doomed to wither in a month or two.

I can understand that OP probably mistook their airdrop rule as a ponzi, though. Side note: it isn't.



A little TIL for OP, ponzi will require new participants to put some money into the project and the money will be used to pay the earlier member's "bonus", it goes on and on until the last participants suffered all the losses when the platform stopped working. The perfect example is that goldmiineng site, you're required to deposit 3000 naira as a sign up fee and will be rewarded 2,000 naira for each person you referred. That 2,000 comes from the fee paid by your friend itself. While airdrop, well airdrop. You lose nothing but time --if I may add my personal opinion, you'll also lose some of your pride since you're kinda "begged" your friends to sign up for you just for pennies-- no money involved as you, as well as the people you referred to, didn't have to pay anything upfront.

From what I can gather, julerz12 took a swift and justified decision by withdrawing himself from a project under an active accusation the instance it came to his awareness. On his defense (stated on his bounty group) it's against his policy to works with questionable ethic that's violate forum rules: plagiarism. And I'll have to strongly agree with this decision, it's an even more questionable ethic for a BM if they continue on working with a project that's proven to violate forum rule. Far as I know, julerz12 is more than willing to re-cooperate once the accusation cleared --which, by the way, I think we have to be satisfied with the classic final words of the defeated, "If you want to insist with your narrative, go ahead." because Haptic didn't give their rebuttals even though they're online today, I'll wait for two more days before concluding that they admit the plagiarism and tagging their account.

In retaliation to this, Elysian Finance --the same dev with Haptic-- kicked him out from their contract by reason that julerz12 unilaterally terminate his employment with Haptic. Ironically, they themsleves were unilaterally terminate their contract with the BM. On their defense, they tried to negotiate with julerz12 but couldn't meet at middle point. From julerz12 side, there's not much of a negotiations. I think we can judge which side is true to their words, given one side deleted their statement immediately.

I would love to do a DD on Elysian, but given their published documents are beyond minimal, and their website didn't contain anything that can be researched --which, those characteristics itself speaks volumes of the quality of their project-- there's not much I can do to prove whether the project worth investing or not, although i leaned toward the later.

Allow me to also quote the sentence referred as "like we mentioned" to give a clear picture


To make it clear, you're saying that the content of your medium will be on your final WP as well... or in other words, the content that exactly plagiarize content from the paper referenced above will be on your whitepaper?


I am not a paid member of grammarly, so the plagiarism checker is rather inaccessible for me. If any, the result I got actually works against your favor as grammarly --the plagiarism checker you prefer to defend yourself-- define your document as "significantly plagiarized"



But please amuse us, if we have to go your way, does the 8% detected includes the parts that you've tailored to make a slight difference --i.e.: the word "2020" to "2021", or removing two or three words in several sentences-- or you've been kind and fair enough to re-adjust those tailored parts to match the corresponding parts on the original document? Please note that when I said "tailored" it doesn't mean you paraphrasing them by taking the essence of the paragraph and sentences and turn them into your own, you rather --as I said previously-- selectively redacted one or two sentences, or if we may borrow tbct_mt2's words, a fake paraphrasing.

I somewhat think the percentage will be much higher than 8%.

Although... in the other hand, it does not really matters. If you deemed copying something from someone else by a reason --you type and I quote-- "Anything less than 15% is within perfectly reasonable usage.", I think you're in a serious need to run a course on business ethic. I would also suggest you to familiarize with the list of forum's unofficial-official rules, I've nicely selected and highlighted some of them which specifically talking about plagiarism:


Theymos' insight on plagiarism:


Or, if we want to go somewhere more worldwidely accepted, the Merriam-Webster's definition of plagiarism


If your intention is truly just to make a summary of a more complex document --which, in it, also includes the content on the summary, i.e. the plagiarized content-- I can't see why can't you cite the source on medium. You literally just need to add a sentence stating this on the lower part of your article. For me, this action is more to a caught-red-handedly copying a material than submitting a paper that's heavily influenced and inspired by a document you've been a big fan of.

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Talking about WP... this is a separate topic yet related to your case. Long story short, upon submitting this accusation thread, a little bird (if we may call a reputable member of this forum as a "little bird") tipped me to look at a project called "Elysian Finance" who openly admitted that they share the same dev as your project. Interestingly, this project were once violated forum rules too, just like you violate the plagiarizing rule. On their case, it seems they tried to incentivizing post. And, just like you, they also decide --and somehow seemingly rather proud of-- to be anonymous as well as having a bare minimum website.

Now, for the WP, they promised to deliver a WP "some time later". True to their words, they took "later" rather seriously as it's been more than one and a half months and they are yet to deliver the document, and it is worth mentioning that their fair launch is in... two weeks! Oh dear Lucifer, it almost seems like they're not planning to give anyone adequate time to read and do research on their WP before the launch. Red flag. Red flag. Anon team? Also red flag. Shared the same team with a project that plagiarize document? Umm... black flag?



Funnily, they later removed this self confessions through edit

At least you admitted and acknowledge that the article is written by yourself and you have ful awareness of the content, it's not the work of a freelancer who copy and paste articles without your knowledge etc. etc.

With that established, that you deliberately copied the content, two things that I think we can all agree. One, it's a --probably written somewhere-- rule that plagiarizing content is heavily frowned upon on this forum. The scam accusation board filled with these cases and most of them didn't ends well as most project who plagiarized contents from others would ends up as scam. It breaks down to the fact that if you really serious wit your project, you'll put efforts on it. Tl;dr: you won't plagiarize.

Two, i think anyone that ever had the privilege to get a higher education would know there is a difference(s) on "heavily influenced" and "intentionally copying". A project that's heavily influenced by older project could have the same theme or same features, but it doesn't mean they'll have the same wording. Your project, however, seemingly to deliberately change wordings, delete and remove a section or two --read: extremely poorly paraphrasing-- to make it rather difficult for plagiarism checker to find the similarities.

As for your claim that your project is in early phase, allow me to bring "exhibit F", a screenshot fromy our twitter page showing your account has been created since almost one year ago and publishes tweets in November. Were you saying that after one year, not only you're failed to make a significant milestone worth announcing and a website with adequate info, you also could only publish a paper which steal, oops... i mean "influenced by" content from a published article without even giving the authors credits? How is this showing credibility?

Hi, I take a look at your medium page, which --it seems to me-- works as your litepaper and I find them copying materials from a published paper back in 2020. I'll appreciate if you can give an explanation here

What happened: Plagiarizing their published Medium article which essentially works as their mini whitepaper

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3453444
Scammers Website: https://haptic.finance/ | archived
Scammers ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390207.0 | archived
Plagiarized Documents: medium page | archived
Original source: "The Homogenous Properties of Automated Market Makers"

Additional notes:

They seems to prefer discord as their means of communication. Being not a discord guy myself, I can't check how's the discussion happened there. Their official telegram is effectively non functional with zero update since the creation date, though. Same fate happened to their website which literally lacking of any useful info. No company profile, no team, just a page listing their social media.


Some screenshot for easy view:

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Edit: notifying and inviting dev through their ann thread

The forum DID NOT still keeping 1xbet running in their platform, kindly point out the evidence that bitcointalk promote, run, or shows any support toward the betting site. Nor they have the control and ability to ban the site.

Well... first thing first: sup fellas, LOL.


Been wondering, how important is the comments made on each report and/or how big is it on helping to make your work easier? Is a blank comment as useful as the one with some description?

I've put a negative trust the second they kicked me out of their tg as I think its rather obvious that they're evading the accusation... not that my rating matters as it didn't directly impacting them. So, thank you for tagging them for us.

Given the nature of their previous record with Moneta, and their shady decision in bounty --if we take Erdogan's statement as a fact-- I wonder if it's wise to raise a newbie flag against them, especially as they're still doing public sale --I'm just guessing here as I have no sources to check if their sale is still ongoing or concluded. Their shady action, alongside with rather questionable review on their other site, could indicate rug-pull.

Personally, I want to give benefits of doubts amd wait for them to give their defense, but as they ignoring my forum PM and removed me from TG, I somewhat think the possibility of them coming here is out of the horizon.

Dear lord, I was wrong... well, partially. Maybe Stabila didn't do a foul play with their WP, but --staying true to their root with Moneta-- other documents that they published are copying other works, and they claimed them as their own.

Stablila official scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390639.0

What happened: Plagiarizing documents --not their WP, other documents (plural)-- from different sources

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3425174
Scammers Website: https://www.stabilascan.org/ | archived
Scammers ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.0 | archived
Plagiarized Documents:

Maybe they learned from their past action, their WP is actually rather clean. However, other documents of their project are not. Below is the list of documents available on their website which are copying content from others' work.

Brand Assets - Plagiarizing "Stablecoin Evolution and Market Trends"
Stabila Documentation - Plagiarizing Tron's Documentation
Stabila Asset Tokenization Plagiarizing 10XTS Article about Tokenization
Banking blueprint - Plagiarizing "Banking Blueprint for the Crypto World" by Arun Ghosh
Stabila for banks - Plagiarizing BCG's Article by Zubin Mogul

Additional Notes: Stabila is a child company of Moneta, a project with a plagiarizing history. In the past, upon being outed that their WP is stealing content, they defended themselves by saying that they hired content writer, and that some members are blackmailing them into paying some sum of money or else... well, they never shows the concrete evidence --screenshot and anything-- to backup their claim. Instead, they went full witch-hunt mode accusing and tagging anyone that stands against them.

I was notified by miWana about Stabila's connection with Moneta. Thanks to their help, the project enters my radar and I re-investigate them. The second section of this post is a snipped quote of what I wrote on the other thread in response to miWana's information, I'll copy them here to add them to the investigation materials for the case of fake team on top of the plagiarism accusation.

The third section of this post is what I called as a happy coincidence. Given that they've been online for days after I PMed them --they should have noticed my message and choose to ignore them-- and they gave no response, I decided to dive into their TG to well... notify them and take a look around their community. What I find is probably what we can say as a shilling service.

Some screenshot for easy view:

Brand Assets:


Documentation:


Asset Tokenization:


Banking Blueprint


Stabila for Banks:


And in case the team tried to get away from this accusation using the old excuse of "we hired a content writer and they copied material without our knowledge", allow me to add this evidence stating that their CEO, Daniel Varzari, is the author of the document, which --if they still insist they hired a writer-- means their CEO lied by claiming a paper that he didn't write as his.

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So... what does their community think about their consensus network?






How about their decentralized feature?




So, overall, what do their community think about the project?


[note: the "valerstudio" username is a bounty hunter using the project's name and not Valerstudio's official tg handler]

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Edit: notifying them via telegram as well, let's see if they'll come here or kick me out of their channel
Edit 2: they kicked me, LOL

Did you just... admitting a ban evasion? Wow, that's honest.

Yep, @19Serr was autobanned few months ago. And although it is allowed to create a new account for the sake of pleading the mod to reconsider the ban, you are not alowed to use the new account to do other things like posting or creating threads outside of the pleading, let alone joined bounty, because it'll be considered as ban evasion.

Yeah, AFAIK, Welsh took a very quick action on that issue, soon after I posted my suspicion --maybe within minutes, if not seconds-- he wiped them clean by himself.

P.s.: what's the address for checking that report status?

Ohh, forgive my lack of knowledge on the NFT generator site. Is it not for free? You mentioned that initially you want to issue 50 NFT, and their platform stated this:




As they gave a "free trial" of 100 NFT, and your initial NFT is 50, wuldn't it means the first NFTs you sold to fund your website are freely made?

In regards to your comparison with DegenApe, I failed to grasp how you both are in equal position so that you can compare yourself, nor I understand the point you tried to raise by comparing both of you