And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.
You are clutching at straws. I have offered proof via the blockchain transactions that I paid for the 40 BitBar. There are also two people (petrified and alexfun) which back up my story that I also paid for their BitBars. If you don't like me naming the people I trade with, tough. You don't tell me what to do and I don't respond to bullies. |
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People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.
There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.
Everything I have said is the truth.
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Hi everyone,
It's difficult for me to defend myself because you guys aren't giving me a fair chance. I already have one person posting transaction details in the topic and backing up that I was buying BTB private over pm's.
If someone is trustworthy I can private message them more transaction details, for the 40 BTB. So long as they will keep the details private. We did the transaction in 4 chunks. Please be quick as I have things to do.
Ymer,
I have sent a message to the admin. You will be hearing from my lawyer. This will be a good lesson for you in life.
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What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC. Status: 750 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:48
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -0.3999 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB
Net amount: -0.40 BTB
Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1
Status: 919 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:50
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -3.5998 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB
Net amount: -3.60 BTB
Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9 Status: 345 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:58
From: unknown
To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random)
Credit: 1.60 BTC
Net amount: +1.60 BTC
Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb Thank you. I made trades with several people for BitBar. Some were even small amounts. You guys ruining my reputation really need to look at yourself, I spent my money in good faith. No different from anyone else who has traded coins when they get released. How was I supposed to know. OP I have given you ample chance to remove the title and withdraw the accusations of me being a shill. I am writing to the admin to obtain your IP address. If he won't supply it due to rules, the admin will be receiving a court order for it and then I will be seeing you in court. As I said previously, that person is welcome to come forward. But I am not bringing another individual into this witch-hunt as he wasn't a pre-miner. Up to him if he wants to be the next one to get a whipping. |
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What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 off me for 1.6 BTC.
Thank you. I can even provide transaction proof. I believe you AND I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE, now spill the beans. Who is the member that mined hundreds of BitBars on the first minutes after the 1 min announcement? Change the title of the topic you idiot or I am sending a complaint to the moderator. I haven't done anything wrong, I bought the BitBars in good faith. Name the member and I'll change title. Nope. I am proven not to be a shill. I hope you are ready for a legal case and I am not joking. You're throwing false accusations around despite proof that you are wrong. Good luck with that. Oh and don't bother deleting your posts, I have taken screenshots. |
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What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 off me for 1.6 BTC.
Thank you. I can even provide transaction proof. I believe you AND I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE, now spill the beans. Who is the member that mined hundreds of BitBars on the first minutes after the 1 min announcement? Change the title of the topic you idiot or I am sending a complaint to the moderator. I haven't done anything wrong, I bought the BitBars in good faith. |
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What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 off me for 1.6 BTC.
Thank you. I can even provide transaction proof. |
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Completely incorrect. I paid for those BitBar fair and square from a member here. You owe me an apology. |
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scrypt(N,1,1) means no current miner software will work. Are you gonna release a patch miner? Are you gonna tweak it so your own version is so much better?
If no current miner software will work, how will we mine it? I'm excited by this, I like coins that offer something new. |
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Lol @ ymer saying hdclover is an insider.
You keep defending BitBar with silly posts with strawman and derails, go back to spamming how awesome BitBar is. You fail you realize that? Lets count my posts vs your post on BitBars and see who is spamming. You keep showing up in all the threads where the BitBar is exposed giving silly arguments, not a single significaive post by you has been seen. Your arguments: "LOL you were late to the game" "LOL you think that people making threads defending BitBar over and over are insiders"  Keep getting mad. I never said anything. Neither did you, except you copied other people's ideas into your posts. Who cares if I show up in threads? Who cares if i say what I want? Who cares if you said hdclover is an insider? Did you read my response to it? Did i flat out object to it? No. So, thanks. Keep it to yourself. I haven't made a single thread about these BitBars, unlike you. Just click ignore. I've done it to 3 people and now I've noticed I don't see any of these anti-BitBar trolls. Anywhere.  |
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Hi all, 3 BitBar for sale. I would like 2 BTC per BitBar, but I am willing to negotiate. Please message me privately, I've locked this topic. I accept Bitcoin, Litecoin and Feathercoin. Cheers. |
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Nice idea. What is the starting difficulty going to be?
I'm really confused here. People kicked up a big fuss about BitBar's starting difficulty (even though it was no different to a lot of other coin launches) and now a new coin is launching no-one cares about the starting difficulty? I notice Substrata isn't asking about this in this thread which is amusing to me since half of his 70 odd posts must be about BitBar's difficulty level lol |
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This to me is an encouraging sign, strangely enough. This is happening over at http://btb.binarycoins.eu/,according to the top right corner of the page. If BitBar wasn't seen as a threat, people wouldn't waste their resources attacking it, they would let it die out if it's really such a pointless concept with rare bars. Long live BitBar!  |
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Nice idea. What is the starting difficulty going to be?
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I would love to hear some kind of update on this project. |
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It's dollar value is approximately 37 cents... That's pretty good I think |
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Agreed. It's just a courtesy to people new to crypto-currencies to state our opinion int he thread so they investigate and make their own (informed) opinion. The name is just so similar that I can imagine it is really confusing to them.
Honestly I think you are just jealous and in disbelief at the high prices BitBars are being traded at. If you were honest with yourself inside you would admit that. There's no logical reason to spam FUD in BitBar threads when most other coins which launched the same way received no flak about these things.The future price? Who knows. Speculators will continue to speculate, driven by supply and demand. BitBar could be a distant dream but eternally remembered for the high initial price, in 6 months time, or it could continue to make the haters hate I'll let you guys have the last word, I have things to do! I'm just a guy who bought a few and loved the concept! |
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I do agree that launching a new coin should be made public atleast 7 days before the actual launch. Preferably couple of pools set up and an exchange to support it. Distributing the binaries and sources in a AES encrypted 7zip or rar package and finally revealing the key at specific already widely known time.
We just haven't seen this method yet, hopefully it comes the standard some day.
Even fairer than that, would be to launch the coin but only on a 'testnet' so people could practise mining it etc. You could even argue every coin is a scam coin for not doing these things. |
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Why set difficulty at 0 if the purpose of the bitbar is to be very rare and hard to get? Creator couldnt have been so naive Let's look at some other coins: Feathercoin launched with difficulty 0Terracoin launched with difficulty 1 (just as low as 0 in effect) Chinacoin launched with difficulty 0Novacoin launched with difficulty 0etc Are you seeing a pattern yet? Please stop trolling Indeed. All scams. But no people posting scam every 2 minutes in those topics (apart from novacoin I admit). I don't know. I'm not the coin creator, I'm not even a large holder of coins, I bought the ones I have not mined them. It's a solid concept and hasn't done much different in terms of launching from most other crypto coins. Difficulty is still going up and up, and BTB have been selling today for over 1 bitcoin like yesterday... If the price drops a ton so be it, if it rises so be it... the free market will decide |
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