Can't you see what TerminatorXL is doing? Posting with an alt. One of the best example. Hope that clears your doubt.
I dint know that the forum is benefiting from TX's posts. Then why they say he is trolling?  I don't think there was an explanation needed for that statement as you(we) were talking about alts not TerminatorXL's post. I said that using alts is indeed helpful for things we need to hide our real accounts. For example, scam busting, drama, going against a person/community etc... TerminatorXL is doing one of the things and it is clearly seen. I don't think I need to explain this further. So you mean since accounts are being sold, scams would be less as people will try to investigate before trading/trusting a person?
We need to investigate if we are doing a trade. People will be more careful knowing this fact. Does every member here follow this and truly investigate if the account was sold or not? By checking the seclog? Is that enough to know if the account was bought or sold?
Security Log isn't enough. People can't truly know whether an account is sold or not. Only way we can assume is to ask a signed message considering Bitcoin address can be sold. If account selling is allowed, why can't there be a list or thread where the account buyer/seller state their trade in open?
Because we can't create a list of full bought/sold accounts and who bought it. Another reason is, having an alt is okay. Wouldn't that make it more better and prove that it's worth it?
Don't think so if you think. When it happens in the private, why then say that people will move outside the forum/have private transactions which would be worse.
Now we can atleast know some of the sold accounts, what if it took outside forum? Higher chance is for "won't". As of now, account selling takes place in private and not in the open. If you are trying to say this decreases scams, sorry to say but it is increasing day in and day out. So many newbies are getting scammed by the same scammer/old scammers as they create new accounts or members have sold their trusted accounts.
Newbies always get scammed as they aren't familar with it but this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent it. The answer is we can't but we can reduce it. Banning sold accounts are not the way, though. Even trusted members turn out to be scammers. It doesn't increase nor decrease by a greater percentage. Both are balanced and trying to change one side will result in bigger problem. Scammers scam. Newbies are being victims as they ain't experienced here. Newbies are victims of most scams IRL too. There is no solution other than wiping scammers which is impossible out there. This thread is about accounts being sold, not alt accounts. I have created this account, free of charge.
If you wish to discuss alt accounts, please stop derailing my thread & start your own.
I don't want to discuss about your alts. erikalui asked why alts are allowed and I answered. No. A false dichotomy. Covered several times in this very thread.
Knowing that stealing is against the law doesn't make me leave my wallet in the middle of the street. OTOH, since there are IRL cops enforcing laws, I don't sleep with a Glock under my pillow & still get robbed. So I guess I can afford to be less careful.
Leaving a wallet in middle of a street and being less careful is different. Besides, virtual and real is different and we can't compare everything. |
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He shouldn't have taken a loan with interest if he doesn't like to pay interest. He probably will end up in a bad way if he doesn't pay. There are many ways for him to pay if he is firm with his decision such as using interest paid to depositors by banks to pay the interest of the loan. Still, his real intention is unknown.
Isn't his intention clear? It seems to me it is not to pay the interest. I'm interested to know does Islam forbid the payment of interest, or just the charging of interest which implies that if it can't be charged, it is not to be paid? If Islam only forbids the charging of interest, what basis does he have to claim he cannot pay? And most importantly, if someone lent him money who is not a Muslim, does he not have a moral obligation not to take the loan since he knows they will ask for interest which he has no intention of paying? I don't know how it works in Islam, but in the western world, breaking a contract is dishonorable, and reflects poorly on your morality and ethics as an individual. I said his real intention isn't clear because in media he is saying as Islam forbids it, he isn't paying. But what if he doesn't really believe but want to avoid paying interest to save his money or he doesn't have enough money. True intention is unknown. As I said, he shouldn't have taken an interest loan if he doesn't want to pay. Anout interest: Islam forbids involving with interest, charging, paying, being a witness etc... for an interest thing is haram. I don't know how it works in Islam, but in the western world, breaking a contract is dishonorable, and reflects poorly on your morality and ethics as an individual.
This is why I want Muslims to prove their true faith by loaning me money at zero interest. The more they loan at zero interest, the more faith they have. And I will pay them back. It may be after the paper money is worthless but I will pay back every penny. There are many muslims who give interest-free loans even in this forum. There was an "Islamic bank" thread in Lending section which gave out interest-free loans. If you are interested, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958575.0.  Thanks, but I was joking. Actually I personally have always believed a prohibition against interest to be ignorant and stupid. Especially when governments inflate currency, interest is the only countermeasure to break even. It would seem that the issue of interest is one in which the Koran cannot be right, then. As it considers money a thing which neither increases or decreases in value, and without consideration of these factors, a just policy on interest cannot be established. (Of course corrupt governments could emphasize the Evil of Interest in Islam, to keep it's people from fighting back and finding ways to keep their wealth and savings.) So the Koran is wrong on this. The ban on interest which might have been logical and just in the dim past, today works against the betterment of people and their culture. Interest on loans is in large part what makes money flow, and must compensate not only for the governments' madness of printing money, but for risk in ventures. Little or no availability of interest for loans would impact the entire development of a society, and keep it backwards. I wonder then if this might not be a factor in the correlation between the most Islamic areas being the most backwards in education, technology and industrial development. No problem. Anytime.  Interest is a part of development? Just checkout through people's lives. Interest have been a big threat to lives of many people. Interest isn't mandatory for development. For bank, it is a business and they do their maximum to squeeze people with higher interest which in fact, takes their lives. I don't understand how *you* are saying it. The last line is funny. |
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I think OgNasty expressed a valid point, also if the forum staff will put a rule don't you think a lot of users will 'bypass' it? This is the unique reason why buying & selling (or have more than one) forum account is not forbidden... because it is impossible to stop this practice.
You can answer my one question? What benefit does the forum get from multiple accounts (especially those accounts created using one IP address)? Any good reason why is it allowed? Can't you see what TerminatorXL is doing? Posting with an alt. One of the best example. Hope that clears your doubt. Also regarding members going against the rule. Laws are as well broken. That means there shouldn't be any law? Saying that as well does not make sense. Rules can atleast TRY to stop it.
People think Accounts are sold = Be more careful. Accounts aren't sold because staff take care of it = Be less careful. |
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I didn't came here for a war with you. If it isn't hidden like you say, none of the thread in OP is hidden. All can be seen in one way or another. Anyway, if these links aren't hidden, OP is free to remove it. However, you know well why Patrol page doesn't fit in OP. @OP: Replace "Muhammed Zakir" with "cakir" if that solves this problem. I don't need my name there. If I do, my names will still be in other threads. Fame is a stupid thing which can drive a human crazy.* P.S. * In general. None of the links in OP is hidden with that logic. The only hidden page to normal members is Staff Forum. Good catch. I think Donator board is also hidden. Do you know link to it? |
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Anytime. Had to request another 0.04 here is copy of pm: Post in the thread. Kindly, Muhammed Zakir Well i sent another 1.5k cann to your address so i'd be really happy if you could help me once again...you don't have to worry there is around 800k cann buy order @1400 satoshis so it won't fall down The destination address if you agree is (removed for privacy) Txid: b297ba82f0a22c07f39442b5461f534bb52ee32e48c23d361c83b9f1d6d91747 0.04 BTC sent to the address he messaged me. Total: 0.265 BTC |
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Had to request another 0.04 here is copy of pm: Post in the thread. Kindly, Muhammed Zakir Well i sent another 1.5k cann to your address so i'd be really happy if you could help me once again...you don't have to worry there is around 800k cann buy order @1400 satoshis so it won't fall down The destination address if you agree is (removed for privacy) Txid: b297ba82f0a22c07f39442b5461f534bb52ee32e48c23d361c83b9f1d6d91747 0.04 BTC sent to the address he messaged me. Total: 0.265 BTC |
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Thank you! Loan amount---.51 btc
reason-----buying sr member account (pm'd) [[i have it on reserve till tuesday]]
address-----13HACHqsFqgMhcPeVK4Dor8e8hvR8SqSqX
term length-----0.1 at end of each week (signature campaign)
collateral - i really dont know what to give you can have my websites if you want.
repayment - 0.6
even if you decline, i respect it. because i know i dont have a proper collateral.
ATM I can't lend you. I will think about it and will tell you tomorrow. |
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not added... the feature is not hidden. everybody can find it in homepage, at the bottom left of the page... thanks anyway Hope you can remove patrol too. It isn't a hidden page. |
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He shouldn't have taken a loan with interest if he doesn't like to pay interest. He probably will end up in a bad way if he doesn't pay. There are many ways for him to pay if he is firm with his decision such as using interest paid to depositors by banks to pay the interest of the loan. Still, his real intention is unknown.
Isn't his intention clear? It seems to me it is not to pay the interest. I'm interested to know does Islam forbid the payment of interest, or just the charging of interest which implies that if it can't be charged, it is not to be paid? If Islam only forbids the charging of interest, what basis does he have to claim he cannot pay? And most importantly, if someone lent him money who is not a Muslim, does he not have a moral obligation not to take the loan since he knows they will ask for interest which he has no intention of paying? I don't know how it works in Islam, but in the western world, breaking a contract is dishonorable, and reflects poorly on your morality and ethics as an individual. I said his real intention isn't clear because in media he is saying as Islam forbids it, he isn't paying. But what if he doesn't really believe but want to avoid paying interest to save his money or he doesn't have enough money. True intention is unknown. As I said, he shouldn't have taken an interest loan if he doesn't want to pay. Anout interest: Islam forbids involving with interest, charging, paying, being a witness etc... for an interest thing is haram. I don't know how it works in Islam, but in the western world, breaking a contract is dishonorable, and reflects poorly on your morality and ethics as an individual.
This is why I want Muslims to prove their true faith by loaning me money at zero interest. The more they loan at zero interest, the more faith they have. And I will pay them back. It may be after the paper money is worthless but I will pay back every penny. There are many muslims who give interest-free loans even in this forum. There was an "Islamic bank" thread in Lending section which gave out interest-free loans. If you are interested, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958575.0. I hereby give the Muslims the right to kill me and my family. After all Allah said it
This is probably a sarcastic sentence. Islam doesn't tell to kill innocent people. Allah never said it. IMHO you should protect them than giving rights if someone try to attack. |
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Please don't bother commenting to increase your post count for the sig you have.
I like to be part of this forum and I need to post for this to happen. Putting a paid sig helps me get some money atleast for the time I spend. If you think I am spamming, feel free to report those spammy posts or tell a mod that I am spamming & to ban me. Obviously TOR/VPN can be used, but I don't think tacoman or me were using that before the negative trust was given.
How can you tell tacoman didn't use VPN/Tor before getting negative trust? It is obvious scammers use VPN/Tor when/before they start to scam. Also, Twipple had no traces of scam or anything . Its just the address that was posted by Twipple which somehow was related with the address that tacoman posted which I believe both of them were deposit address for the same site like localbitcoins or a gambling site.
Blazr did a great analysis but result was negative (for you). If you can provide proof it is a deposit/withdrawal address of an exchange/gambling site, it will be removed. M Z, why do you always jump on the wagon to defend Quickseller like that? This time you didn't exactly defend him but effectively derailed the discussion with irrelevant posts.
I post what I understand/know. Twipple requested/said theymos to do an IP check and I said it may not work. May I know if there is something wrong in what I said? The post you are referring to isn't derailing or irrelevant. |
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1 activity = you have spent 1 day on bitcoinstalk forum and you have atlest posted one time during that day, if you post 12 posts in a day you activity dont rise with posts you can get maximum 1 activity in 1 day
you sure about this ? AFAIK no. There is no such limit but there is another limit, 14 activity per 14 days. You can only get maximum of 14 activity per 14 days. Even if you make all 14 posts in one day, you will get 14 activity points. so this is what i am saying you can achive 1 activity in 1 day , or 14 activity in 14 days , whats the difference ? Maximum. Both sentences are different. Dividing your monthly salary by 30 and saying the result you get is what you earn per day maximum is different from saying the amount you get monthly. I am poor at explaining but hope it clears your doubt. 1 activity = you have spent 1 day on bitcoinstalk forum and you have atlest posted one time during that day, if you post 12 posts in a day you activity dont rise with posts you can get maximum 1 activity in 1 day
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As long as BadBear trusts him nothing can be done.
Not true. If 2 other people on the default trust list exclude him, then he will no longer be in the default trust network. Now that you have seen this thread, can't you just look at the IP's used and everything to verify I am not the alt that he claims I am ? Kind of feeling ridiculous that even the forum doesn't do anything for such trust abuse that Quickseller is implementing. You can easily use a Tor or VPN. Also even if a scammer account was sold, negative feedback should not be removed. Proof for this are plausibly manipulated. Many threads will popup if negative feedback are removed for these kind of things. I feel sorry for your loose but you will have to live with it. I suggest you to join a campaign which accepts users with red rating. |
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Is it possible to request a password without having to change one's signature? I would like to try this extension, but I can't change my signature.
PM jackjack. |
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Bro repayment date is 24/04 the link you shared is for the user named "Dalyb", this is his alt account, any proof? i loaned him for 0.001btc and i think collateral is good enough to cover to loan in case he defaults, this is why i always perfer loan with collateral because atleast we have something to cover our money if not all then atleast a part of it Didn't see your reply. Yes, it is Dalyb's alt. If you have collateral, good luck. Be careful when you take Bitcointalk account as collateral, you have many alts of scammers. Good luck! |
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How much BTC are you looking for? Do you have any collateral?
You haven't verified two important things, income and bank.
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Thanks for sending me BIT-X card, i added it to my account there, but I didn't order any.
Is this free as I am in first 10000 users or what? I prefer to use my card when it will have 3D enabled, so far it hasn't. Plus I am funding via BTC, just bought 18 GHS for 0.03 BTC, you guys are quite expensive, I hope you are worth it.
You were sent one as you were verified! There are no active monthly fees for the first 10,000 users, correct. Other fees still apply. Bit-x is doing really great and there are no competitors around. ANX, AdvCash and WageCan are. CloudMinr.IO, CloudMining.website and BitcoinCloudServices.com dominate the Cloud Mining Market. I was referring to debit/prepaid cards. There is a mistake in your statement though. It should be scam or ponzi market, not cloud mining market. Hope you got it. Thanks for sending me BIT-X card, i added it to my account there, but I didn't order any.
Is this free as I am in first 10000 users or what? I prefer to use my card when it will have 3D enabled, so far it hasn't. Plus I am funding via BTC, just bought 18 GHS for 0.03 BTC, you guys are quite expensive, I hope you are worth it.
yeah i see the price per ghs is really pricey even for the cash portion. I am really wanting to see that maybe the cost of ghs will go down by like 50% " i know wishful thinking " when they get the new 28nm chips True. We hardly hit ROI with that price. Thanks for sending me BIT-X card, i added it to my account there, but I didn't order any.
Is this free as I am in first 10000 users or what? I prefer to use my card when it will have 3D enabled, so far it hasn't. Plus I am funding via BTC, just bought 18 GHS for 0.03 BTC, you guys are quite expensive, I hope you are worth it.
You were sent one as you were verified! There are no active monthly fees for the first 10,000 users, correct. Other fees still apply. Bit-x is doing really great and there are no competitors around. ANX, AdvCash and WageCan are. as far as i know those companies including ANX that i currently use as well, really are not considered competitors in my opinon since they dont offer option to mine bitcoin and use it on visa or mastercard There is no advantage but risk in "mining + debit/prepaid card". |
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Well, that explains OP's question. Thermos is away since August, 2013. Please lock this thread now. |
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Add more explorers like Blocktrail and check if balance shown in two explorers, here Blockchain.info and Blocktrail, are same. It will be better. Blockchain.info is sometimes buggy and sometimes server go down.
Useful app, btw! Keep it up!
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I know all about you so I can give you the loan without collateral, and I accept this risk. I know username of some other account that you hold through
some of my friends here. I believe that you do not dare cheat me. Just need to comfirm for your loan HERE and then PM me !
Confirmed, Pm sent! Sorry, I was late. I was offline since yesterday so I did not you PM me. You still need a loan ? Look my post above yours. There is a ban button, in case if you don't know. |
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Where is your BTCJam request? Link please.
Do you have collateral?
Please write the below text onto a paper and put it near your Bitcoin miners. Take a photo and post here.
Text to write on a paper:
cdjboloton from Bitcointalk.org. UID: 338173
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