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5061  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops on: March 29, 2019, 08:48:54 PM
The "official" account is that these 99 Russians came to do maintenance and fix weapon systems previously bought from them, such as the S-300VM
.

Unfortunately, the USA will not tolerate a buildup of Russian or Chinese troops in Venezuela. The people of Venezuela will have to choose who they want to support, because if you try to sit on the fence, you will become the next grounds for proxy war. Not saying it is fair, but it is reality.
5062  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Polymerbit 50's, Karl Marx 0 Euro, Venezuela 13 Note Set on: March 29, 2019, 03:26:35 AM

Bid Incremeents:  0.001 BTC

5063  Economy / Reputation / Re: how should this be adressed? want to know community's opinion on: March 28, 2019, 10:52:54 PM
Just send him the merits. I recently sent 20 points to a user I was aware of from outside the forum because I recognized his previous work and concluded he would be a valuable contributor to the forum even though his account was new. As long as you clearly aren't propping up alts, or just rewarding people for parroting your opinions, I don't think anyone would object.
5064  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: March 28, 2019, 10:47:13 PM
I'm still upset that my right to make nuclear reactors was taken away  Angry

Living in society means that you make some concessions in order to stay a part of a community.

Sorry but building a nuclear reactor is not equivalent to a choice between bodily autonomy and freedom of movement. They are purposely building a very dangerous precedent to desensitize people to these kinds of actions.
5065  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: March 28, 2019, 10:43:27 PM


Exactly, he has the intelligence and malleability of a brain dead person making him the perfect political puppet to take huge personal risks to sell this narrative. Lets not forget that Kamala Harris introduced her "anti-lynching" bill the week that this happened. There are also people suggesting that Harris and Smollett are related, among other shady activities and personalities involved. I would speculate that they probably have some form of documentation to back up the complicity of these other higher level individuals along with any states evidence testimony he has/will give. Besides the local charges, just based on the charges of terrorist threats alone he could go away for a VERY long time. That kind of time has a way of making people very cooperative.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/former-asst-states-attorney-smollett-hoax-likely-implicated-someone-very-important-who-did-not-want-to-be-implicated/
5066  Other / Meta / Re: Community Opinion - Signature Campaigns on: March 28, 2019, 10:38:49 PM
As long as it isn't like some goat porn site or something I think you should be fine.
5067  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: March 28, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
In my opinion terrorism have no religion.
Terrorists can say that they act in the name of some religion but it's not right.
They just abuse religious teaching for their own sake.
World religions promote peace and love in general, not war or hate.
People misuse religions. 

I find it interesting people are unwilling to use this same tolerant logic when they feel people associated with Christianity do something wrong.
5068  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Polymerbit 50's, Karl Marx 0 Euro, Venezuela 13 Note Set on: March 28, 2019, 09:28:30 PM
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5069  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 28, 2019, 09:21:05 PM
direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

As usual you are only interested in what serves your own narrative, not the truth, logic, or learning new things.
5070  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops on: March 28, 2019, 09:19:29 PM
Don't you get it yet? When Russia and China interfere it is A-OK, when the US interferes the sky is falling. Get with the program subject.
5071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Degradation of American media on: March 28, 2019, 05:34:41 PM
The media has always been full of shit. The only difference is now people are starting to realize it, and as a result they have to maintain a constant treadmill of lies, which exposes them even more.
5072  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 28, 2019, 05:23:45 PM
In order:

Its your fucking county man. All I am telling you is you are making rather large bets without knowing your cards or what it is you are even betting. If you want to fix things you have to build a better system to displace the current system, not just burn it down and hope tyrants don't take advantage of the power vacuum. They have plans to deal with this, you don't.
That's why we're demanding direct democracy.
Burn this shit up, implement direct democracy. That's the plan.

Again, you aren't actually reading anything I am saying, you are just skimming it and seeing what you want to see. "Burning this shit up" is the opposite of what you need to do, and direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.



direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

As you can see your quote was an out of context earlier reply, not a direct reply to the comment I just made. These are the kind of disingenuous semantic games I am talking about. BTW thanks for proving my point that you simply added direct to democracy so you could use it as a semantic change of goal posts.

Selectively edited version:

[tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make a totally meaningless statement backed by nothing]

Ok I'll rephrase. Direct democracy is mob rule yes. Where is the problem with that?
I didn't say direct democracy. I said democracy is mob rule.

You're funny you know?

direct democracy is just mob rule

And I'm the one being lazy?
Please get your shit together and make a point.

[again tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make totally meaningless statements backed by nothing]
5073  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: March 28, 2019, 05:22:01 PM
I know you don't read my sources for a fact. Do you know how I know this (other than your shockingly obvious ignorance on all these subjects)? Because any time I post something your RESPOND INSTANTLY, and unless you are reading at a rate of 3 pages a second, you aren't reading the sources I provide. Also I have seen you claim to have read things here before, but then when pressed you demonstrate complete and undeniable ignorance of the subject matter. Whatever small portion you do bother to attempt to read you then skim over, never really paying attention or thinking critically about it, but only looking for points you can most easily argue. So not only are you ignorant, you are also a liar.

If your brain was a muscle you had to work out to stay in shape, you would be a huge tub of lard with Cheetos stuck in his fat rolls drinking from a 2 liter of Mountain Dew. This is just a joke to you. I have literally spent years of effort trying to learn the ins and outs of Communism and related topics which I personally consider very important, and you roll up with your lazy ass disingenuous approach, you might as well spit in my face. Your ignorant self assured lackadaisical attitude is an insult, and if you want to treat this like a game, I might as well make a game out of you because you waste my time.
So here there is litteraly nothing but personnal attacks. And sorry but reading your shit isn't long considering how short it is. Dude reading your little site takes what? 10 minutes? 30 tops if you're slow?
That said, again you only addressed ONE of the 10 planks listed on that page, I have a feeling you only looked them over until you could find something you felt you could make a point on then quickly ended any semblance of a thought process. I would love to see you try to argue the other planks.
I addressed one of the ten because that's what we call an example, and I've addressed ALL THE TEN here in a separate thread cause that was borderline off topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125222.0
One simple question. Is or is not a fact that the state uses the force of law to take inheritance? I didn't ask you how much. This is a yes or no question. I patiently await your semantic gymnastics fat man.
I guess the personnal attack is all what you have now?

Answer is no. State doesn't use the force of law to take inheritance. Easy question.

You just see what you want to see, and no one can change that but you. As long as you are this intellectually dishonest and lazy I am going to treat you as the intellectual poser bottom feeder you are. I don't care what you did in another thread, it is very much on topic and I have no desire to participate in a carefully curated thread that just so happens to segregate critique of your preferred ideology.

If the state does not use force of law to take inheritance, then the inheritance tax is not taking from inheritance, thus taking inheritance? You see your gap in logic here? Of course not, you only see your preferred reality. Fuck causality and economics, I GOTS TO HAS MUH COMMUNISM!

5074  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Polymerbit 50's, Karl Marx 0 Euro, Venezuela 13 Note Set on: March 28, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
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5075  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 28, 2019, 02:14:17 PM
[tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make a totally meaningless statement backed by nothing]

Ok I'll rephrase. Direct democracy is mob rule yes. Where is the problem with that?

Again you are doing that thing where I say a word like democracy, then you add little qualifiers to it in order to give yourself an out by saying, "yeah but this is a different kind of democracy". I didn't say direct democracy. I said democracy is mob rule. What is the problem with that? Most people are lazy, selfish, and ignorant just like you, and they don't have the time or inclination to do anything about that.

Did you know half of people are of below average intelligence?  I bet you didn't Wink

 Additionally humans have an evolutionary need to be accepted and part of the "in crowd", which means democracies can be lead around by the nose by the elite all the while believing they are in charge. Finally, as I previously stated, under democracy, the individual has no rights. The individual is the minority, and in democracy only the majority decides, leaving the minority with no source of redress or influence.
5076  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: March 28, 2019, 02:07:58 PM
So what part of what I explained is not making it impossible for this theoretical family to keep their inheritance of their farm? Oh right they are literally forced to sell it to pay the taxes. This is literal removal of inheritance rights. I don't give a shit if your opinion is it should be defined as 100% tax to meet your metric. This is the same game you always play, and exactly why I have no respect for you. You don't argue logic you argue semantics. You don't refute any of the points, you just call them wrong and crazy. You don't read any sources I present you just dismiss them and declare yourself correct. You are the ideological equivalent of a person with syphilis spreading it all around without a care in the world for anyone it effects, you just want some fuk. You don't give a damn if anything you say makes logical sense, just gimme muh Communism.

Contrary to what you say I read your sources.

So you still maintain that it is the same thing to seize the inheritance (here this farm) and to tax this inheritance for 20% of its value?

And I'm the one lacking logic?

I'm not talking semantics here, I'm talking numbers. There is a situation in which the family has nothing (abolition of inheritance right) and a situation where the family has 80% of the value of the farm or keep the farm and pay a debt of 20% of the farm value.

You're claiming those two situations are the same. You are wrong. Can't say much more.

I know you don't read my sources for a fact. Do you know how I know this (other than your shockingly obvious ignorance on all these subjects)? Because any time I post something your RESPOND INSTANTLY, and unless you are reading at a rate of 3 pages a second, you aren't reading the sources I provide. Also I have seen you claim to have read things here before, but then when pressed you demonstrate complete and undeniable ignorance of the subject matter. Whatever small portion you do bother to attempt to read you then skim over, never really paying attention or thinking critically about it, but only looking for points you can most easily argue. So not only are you ignorant, you are also a liar.

If your brain was a muscle you had to work out to stay in shape, you would be a huge tub of lard with Cheetos stuck in his fat rolls drinking from a 2 liter of Mountain Dew. This is just a joke to you. I have literally spent years of effort trying to learn the ins and outs of Communism and related topics which I personally consider very important, and you roll up with your lazy ass disingenuous approach, you might as well spit in my face. Your ignorant self assured lackadaisical attitude is an insult, and if you want to treat this like a game, I might as well make a game out of you because you waste my time.

That said, again you only addressed ONE of the 10 planks listed on that page, I have a feeling you only looked them over until you could find something you felt you could make a point on then quickly ended any semblance of a thought process. I would love to see you try to argue the other planks.

One simple question. Is or is not a fact that the state uses the force of law to take inheritance? I didn't ask you how much. This is a yes or no question. I patiently await your semantic gymnastics fat man.
5077  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 28, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...

Oh no, I want you to make a valid point that's all. That would be great if you made a clear claim one day.

You say it is mob rule?
Yes it is.

Any social organization is mob rule. There is no exception to that statement.

[tells me to make a valid point, proceeds to make a totally meaningless statement backed by nothing]
5078  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: March 28, 2019, 10:23:54 AM
Yeah I really doubt you have read that paper, because if you did you would see it contained government documents, records, and publicly verifiable events to back up these claims. Of course it is way easier to just keep believing what you believe rather than to do the work to learn something new when you might not agree with the implications of it. That seems to be your favorite way to handle these subjects fat man.

No, 1 + 1 = 2. Inheritance has been systematically stripping the backbone of this nation, and I will tell you how. One very straight forward simple example is a family farm. It may have been in the family for generations, and when it is left to the next generation, suddenly they owe taxes on what the family already owns and have already been taxed for over and over again. Usually coming up with such a large lump sum of money is not possible, and suddenly that farm which has been in the family for generations is forced to be sold because they cant pay the inheritance tax. Then companies like Monsanto swoop in and buy this prime land for pennies on the dollar. This is one primary way the industry of this nation has been systematically dismantled. Furthermore it removes incentive for people to work as hard to leave something for the next generation, because they know the government is just going to take it from their children anyway.

Again this is just ONE point of the entire ten planks which you didn't bother addressing. As usual you take the lazy way out, call it crazy, declare yourself correct and move on as if you just had a debate.

You're definitively crazy.

Your example is a good one but it is NOT the same thing as "abolishing inheritance right".

For god's sake taking 20% from something is NOT the same thing as taking 100% of something. How can't you see that??

You call me lazy but there is no lazyness in considering that what this site states is wrong. They litterally say "abolition of inheritance right is enforced" while giving as proof "inheritance taxes". Those two things are not equivalent, and by a very large gap!!! They are not equivalent by about 80%!!!

If communist abolition of inheritance right was enforced, your family example would be left with nothing. In  reality they would be left either with the farm and a 20% debt, or with 80% of the farm value.

Edit: as long as you continue with the afirmation that taking 20% from something is the same as taking 100% of something there is no logic, no truth and no point in your debate, your arguments or your ideas. Sorry man. Admit you're wrong and that this communist policy is not enforced by a very large gap. It doesn't mean that inheritance taxe is right. Just that it is not enforced.

So what part of what I explained is not making it impossible for this theoretical family to keep their inheritance of their farm? Oh right they are literally forced to sell it to pay the taxes. This is literal removal of inheritance rights. I don't give a shit if your opinion is it should be defined as 100% tax to meet your metric. This is the same game you always play, and exactly why I have no respect for you. You don't argue logic you argue semantics. You don't refute any of the points, you just call them wrong and crazy. You don't read any sources I present you just dismiss them and declare yourself correct. You are the ideological equivalent of a person with syphilis spreading it all around without a care in the world for anyone it effects, you just want some fuk. You don't give a damn if anything you say makes logical sense, just gimme muh Communism.
5079  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 28, 2019, 10:16:57 AM
direct democracy is just mob rule where individuals have no rights because the minority always loses.

I think that's the illogical thing you've ever said, maybe? Don't know. You're not strong on logic bro.

Give me one organisation, any organisation, where minority has any right if the majority decides they don't?

So, you want me to argue your point for you? That's cute you criticizing my use of logic when your usual strategy is "NO U!", also you are literally contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next. Democracy is the rule of the majority or mob rule, and under mob rule the minority has no rights because... they are the minority...
5080  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: March 27, 2019, 09:59:43 PM
Communism is totally compatible with globalism. Furthermore global policy has been pushing further and further into Communist policies. If you want to understand actually go read some of the source material I presented you and think about it instead of just demanding I spoon feed you then spitting it out when you don't like the taste.

Problem is that I've read some of the sources you've given like this one:
https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

Where there conclusion has absolutely 0 evidence. They conclude that wall street supports Bolchevick Revolution in the hope to spread communism every where. Yeah ok but there are no proof of that...

or this one:
http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html

Which as I stated in another thread is completely crazy. They litterally write that inheritance taxation is the same as abollition of inheritance rights. What can you say when someone tells you that 2 = 1?

Yeah I really doubt you have read that paper, because if you did you would see it contained government documents, records, and publicly verifiable events to back up these claims. Of course it is way easier to just keep believing what you believe rather than to do the work to learn something new when you might not agree with the implications of it. That seems to be your favorite way to handle these subjects fat man.

No, 1 + 1 = 2. Inheritance has been systematically stripping the backbone of this nation, and I will tell you how. One very straight forward simple example is a family farm. It may have been in the family for generations, and when it is left to the next generation, suddenly they owe taxes on what the family already owns and have already been taxed for over and over again. Usually coming up with such a large lump sum of money is not possible, and suddenly that farm which has been in the family for generations is forced to be sold because they cant pay the inheritance tax. Then companies like Monsanto swoop in and buy this prime land for pennies on the dollar. This is one primary way the industry of this nation has been systematically dismantled. Furthermore it removes incentive for people to work as hard to leave something for the next generation, because they know the government is just going to take it from their children anyway.

Again this is just ONE point of the entire ten planks which you didn't bother addressing. As usual you take the lazy way out, call it crazy, declare yourself correct and move on as if you just had a debate.


"Nazis and commies" are typically extremely authoritarian, so if either of them actually gained power, the result would be severe oppression and the elimination of all political rivals. The status quo is pretty bad, and part of me hopes that the yellow vests manage to tear it all down (somehow), but replacing the status quo with an even more authoritarian regime wouldn't be an improvement.

Maybe the two sides could get together and agree to some sort of actual anarchism (not the weird doublethink kind that some communists ascribe to), like the system described in The Machinery of Freedom. Or you could split the country into far-left and far-right states, but allow for free movement between them so people can go to the side that they prefer and/or the side that works better.

The problem with Anarchy is it only really tends to work in small homogeneous groups much like Socialism or Communism. Furthermore, Anarchy is also a useful delivery mechanism for Communism. The core tenet of Communism has always been to destroy the existing institutions in order to displace them with Communist versions of them. Anarchy again provides for this power vacuum and allows it to grow. Also frankly most people I have come into contact with that consider themselves "Anarchist" are really just confused and or disingenuous Socialists/Communists. Socialists and Communists rarely try to gain power openly, it is always a game of subversion, displacement, and redirection of resources toward Communist goals covertly.
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