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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 22, 2014, 03:18:10 AM
IMO utopianfuture made the rule change with this post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4809186#msg4809186

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January 29, 2014, 12:52:47 AM
Thanks for all who support NEM. This post is page 80 cut-off. Please check the front page because a counter- sockpuppet measure has been introduced.

" Counter sockpuppet measure: Sending address could be checked and if there were already two payments made to NEM's addresses before, then the third payment would be considered donation. This measure comes into effect at page 81 and does not apply retroactively. So DO NOT SEND the fee to NEM from an exchange, you would need to withdraw to your account first. Thanks for your understanding. "

In addition, meme promotion for stake spot is temporarily stopped. But remember that NEM still love memes.  

That should be the cut-off date for multiple account witch-hunt - AFTER  January 29.



That's one measure. Unfortunately for you, we do have some more new measures such as taint analysis + activity analysis to detect people with many accounts. I would consider applying them retrospectively is similar to applying DNA testing to samples from raping cases occurred before the invention of DNA testing. In both instances, they are quite useful, don't you think ?  



The fact that you're still trying to spin your way out of this is incredible. No doubt your intentions are well meaning, but what does the statement below mean?

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This measure comes into effect at page 81 and does not apply retroactively

edit: no doubt you reserve the right to add new counter measures for other 'crimes' later. that is the problem. you are the NEM dictator


Right we did not use that measure cos taint analysis is more effective. Hi sockpuppet, what is your real account, BTW?
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 22, 2014, 02:22:13 AM
IMO utopianfuture made the rule change with this post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4809186#msg4809186

Quote
January 29, 2014, 12:52:47 AM
Thanks for all who support NEM. This post is page 80 cut-off. Please check the front page because a counter- sockpuppet measure has been introduced.

" Counter sockpuppet measure: Sending address could be checked and if there were already two payments made to NEM's addresses before, then the third payment would be considered donation. This measure comes into effect at page 81 and does not apply retroactively. So DO NOT SEND the fee to NEM from an exchange, you would need to withdraw to your account first. Thanks for your understanding. "

In addition, meme promotion for stake spot is temporarily stopped. But remember that NEM still love memes.  

That should be the cut-off date for multiple account witch-hunt - AFTER  January 29.



That's one measure. Unfortunately for you, we do have some more new measures such as taint analysis + activity analysis to detect people with many accounts. I would consider applying them retrospectively is similar to applying DNA testing to samples from raping cases occurred before the invention of DNA testing. In both instances, they are quite useful, don't you think ?  
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 22, 2014, 01:55:13 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:

Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.

I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.

The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.

There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.

All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.

With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.

The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.

For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.

Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.

Write a PM to me!



This guy is perfectly entitled to sell his stakes. He did nothing wrong or against the rules at the time. The best argument in defence of multiple stakes comes from utopianfuture himself.

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Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:40 pm
So I saw an attempt to accumulate NEM stakes by one person making 5 accounts in the same manner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic ... msg4750698 which somewhat goes against our egalitarian principle so my first instinct is to refund him the money and allow the sockpuppet only one stake.

But I realized it is explicitly said in the front page that multiple buy-ins are allowed. So I added a qualification in the front page "the development team reserve the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered"; however this qualification is added retrospectively so I think I would have to let Mr. sockpuppet to keep all of his 5 stakes if he wants to.

I want the community input for this decision.

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?t=678&p=3161#p3159


Retrospective changes to the NEM rules show a lack of honesty. How can you trust someone who changes the rules to gloss over a poorly thought out & implemented process? Utpoianfuture understood this when he made the statement above about Mr Sockpuppet.

I support the goals of NEM, but all this focus on hunting and shaming people who followed the rules at the time is appalling. Utopianfuture has enough 'supporters' eagerly waiting for their stake who'll attack me, but look at the facts. I believe utopianfuture is an honourable person, and I think he would admit the multiple stakeholder 'witch-hunt' only draws attention to his knee-jerk 'make it up as you go along' approach to NEM back in January.

Retrospective changes kill credibility. Retrospective changes kill trust.

What else might change in the future? An increase in the development stakes? A bonus to utopianfuture for all his hard work? He's changed the rules retrospectively before, so there is no guarantee what might change in the future.

The power of bitcoin is rooted in the fact that the 'rules' are fixed by the math & the algorithms.
The weakness of fiat comes from manipulation by those with power and control.

Retrospective rules - NEM's approach is more like fiat than bitcoin.

Your word is your bond, and utopianfuture broke his ORIGINAL word to cover up a very poorly designed process.

Remember, NEM started as a knee-jerk response to frictionlesscoin's NEX when utopianfuture was a big player in NXT. That explains why the process was not thought out, but it does not justify retrospective changes to the rules.



YES I agree the fundraising is not planned in advance and consequently not well thought. That's why the process is a "call for participation" not investment term.

The Development Contract Announcement is next week. That would be something well thought.

Now read this

Disclaimer:


- While we are committed to the idea of " Completely Fair Distribution - Equal Shares for ALL "; the fund raising terms are subject to changes upon the discretion of the development team.
- There is no refund. Nothing comes out of NEM's receiving addresses until the genesis block is launched. We are committed to move the project forward. However, in the unlikely event that the project disintegrates and no one picks it up, the remaining development fund will be sent to a charity of the community's choice.  
- No contractual promise is made to anyone.
- Be patient

So thank you for your competent opinion but yes I can certainly refund his money. There is no point to argue anymore.


Thanks for the reply.

You inserted phrases like"the fund raising terms are subject to changes upon the discretion of the development team." AFTER some of the multiple accounts were created. That is dishonest.

One last time, this was YOUR opinion

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Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:40 pm

But I realized it is explicitly said in the front page that multiple buy-ins are allowed. So I added a qualification in the front page "the development team reserve the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered"; however this qualification is added retrospectively so I think I would have to let Mr. sockpuppet to keep all of his 5 stakes if he wants to.

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?t=678&p=3161#p3159

You can do whatever you want with NEM, and I honestly wish you success, but retrospectively changing the rules is dishonest. People created multiple accounts in good faith, and THEN you changed rules, added disclaimers and qualifications like the 5 account rule. That is a fact.

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There is no point to argue anymore.

I agree, there is no point to argue, because NEM is your endeavour, and you can do whatever you like. But it doesn't change the sequence of events, and the net result.

You changed the wording of the relevant posts AFTER people created multiple accounts, and now weeks of effort has gone into trying to find the so called 'fraudsters' that have been vilified by your henchman.

The people who created multiple accounts PRIOR to when you changed the rules didn't commit any fraud. BUT changing the rules retrospectively WAS dishonest IMO. No amount of 'spin' and re-writing posts can change that


This is dishonest characterization. It is never condoned or encouraged in anyway to register multiple stakes.

Why did you not bring the full quote here

"So I saw an attempt to accumulate NEM stakes by one person making 5 accounts in the same manner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic ... msg4750698 which somewhat goes against our egalitarian principle so my first instinct is to refund him the money and allow the sockpuppet only one stake."

What do you think "egalitarian principle" means in this context ? Why did I make that post if the act is explicitly or implicitly allowed ?

And YES I changed a few rules as we moved ahead but the key principle in building NEM community never changed. That's what counts in the end.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 22, 2014, 01:23:20 AM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:

Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.

I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.

The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.

There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.

All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.

With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.

The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.

For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.

Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.

Write a PM to me!



This guy is perfectly entitled to sell his stakes. He did nothing wrong or against the rules at the time. The best argument in defence of multiple stakes comes from utopianfuture himself.

Quote
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:40 pm
So I saw an attempt to accumulate NEM stakes by one person making 5 accounts in the same manner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic ... msg4750698 which somewhat goes against our egalitarian principle so my first instinct is to refund him the money and allow the sockpuppet only one stake.

But I realized it is explicitly said in the front page that multiple buy-ins are allowed. So I added a qualification in the front page "the development team reserve the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered"; however this qualification is added retrospectively so I think I would have to let Mr. sockpuppet to keep all of his 5 stakes if he wants to.

I want the community input for this decision.

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?t=678&p=3161#p3159


Retrospective changes to the NEM rules show a lack of honesty. How can you trust someone who changes the rules to gloss over a poorly thought out & implemented process? Utpoianfuture understood this when he made the statement above about Mr Sockpuppet.

I support the goals of NEM, but all this focus on hunting and shaming people who followed the rules at the time is appalling. Utopianfuture has enough 'supporters' eagerly waiting for their stake who'll attack me, but look at the facts. I believe utopianfuture is an honourable person, and I think he would admit the multiple stakeholder 'witch-hunt' only draws attention to his knee-jerk 'make it up as you go along' approach to NEM back in January.

Retrospective changes kill credibility. Retrospective changes kill trust.

What else might change in the future? An increase in the development stakes? A bonus to utopianfuture for all his hard work? He's changed the rules retrospectively before, so there is no guarantee what might change in the future.

The power of bitcoin is rooted in the fact that the 'rules' are fixed by the math & the algorithms.
The weakness of fiat comes from manipulation by those with power and control.

Retrospective rules - NEM's approach is more like fiat than bitcoin.

Your word is your bond, and utopianfuture broke his ORIGINAL word to cover up a very poorly designed process.

Remember, NEM started as a knee-jerk response to frictionlesscoin's NEX when utopianfuture was a big player in NXT. That explains why the process was not thought out, but it does not justify retrospective changes to the rules.



YES I agree the fundraising is not planned in advance and consequently not well thought. That's why the process is a "call for participation" not investment term.

The Development Contract Announcement is next week. That would be something well thought.

Now read this

Disclaimer:

- While we are committed to the idea of " Completely Fair Distribution - Equal Shares for ALL "; the fund raising terms are subject to changes upon the discretion of the development team.
- There is no refund. Nothing comes out of NEM's receiving addresses until the genesis block is launched. We are committed to move the project forward. However, in the unlikely event that the project disintegrates and no one picks it up, the remaining development fund will be sent to a charity of the community's choice.  
- No contractual promise is made to anyone.
- Be patient

So thank you for your competent opinion but yes I can certainly refund his money. There is no point to argue anymore.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 21, 2014, 07:18:17 PM
I don't know exactly what the plan for NEM distribution is, but it might be interesting to give people the option to either receive it as one transaction, or receive it over time in smaller transactions.  If we encourage that later option, then I believe it would be better for the future of the coin, since it will mean there will be less to dump on the market on day 1.

For example, you could decide that you are going to give every stakeholder 5000 coins on opening day, or 450 coins a month for 1 year.  Taking the second option would not only show that you support NEM for the long-term, but you'd also get an 8% bonus.

I'm also very afraid of people dumping on day one, because a lot of people will try to sell them. There's just too many stakeholders.

Perhaps such a solution of not giving out all the coins at once would be a good thing. Maybe not for a year, but something flexible, that takes into account whether people are dumping them.

I know the idea sounds horrible, but it's just an idea to work with.

Maybe something like eMunie, that releases the coins to the stakeholders based on demand.

I just wouldn't want the price to go massively high on day one, just so that the price could drop by 20x, and having the people who bought at the highest point losing 20x their money, followed by the price staying down, because as soon as the price goes up a little, the new people who got into Nem will start immediately selling due to fear of another massive price drop before they can sell.

Think of NXT. They had only 70 stakeholders, some with as much as 4% of the entire supply. Did that fail on day 1 with huge dumping? Nope.

NEM may have more stakeholders cashing out on day 1 than NXT did, but that statistic is meaningless; volume is the key thing here. Because each stakeholder of NEM has a lower % of the supply than the day 1 dumpers of NXT did, the total dumping volume on day 1 could well be much less for NEM, despite the higher number of individual stakeholders selling. Make sense?


NXT did not leave my mind when I made wrote my point. I feel that the difference is that you have 70 stakeholders selling off to a lot of people during a point of a lot interest. Demand meeting the supply. With Nem the situation is different because we have hundreds of stakeholders, and my concern is if hundreds of stakeholders decided to sell at the same time, without the the demand that NXT had.

It's not a huge concern because I feel that the demand will be there, just that that a little precaution is always a good thing. I personally would spread it out over like a two weak period. Spreading it out over a certain period would also probably create a lot of discussion on the forums, which would be promotion.

Again, these are just suggestions to drive thinking about all possibility, rather than just believe one thing and not consider anything else. No one is an expert on reality, so I really wouldn't know how the market would react to this or that.

I would consider slow release but I currently prefer releasing all NEM at once on the launch day. Besides the fact it is easier logistically, it would be very interesting economic experiment for every one. Imagine 3000 accounts are created the same time at launch and each receives 1 million NEM equally and they all start to send/ gift/ exchange hysterically etc. The distribution curve is a flat line at the beginning and start to move over time. Who will sell, who will buy and how much ? Isn't it interesting ? Why should we ruin such a beautiful beginning? NEM launch day should feel like the BIG BANG in the NEM universe so I suggest we should take a breath and watch it unfold in wonder. There is no need to over-engineer a BIG BANG.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 21, 2014, 01:31:47 PM
New economy movement. Kind of movement that you can sell shares of.

hmy...

 NXT is connected to NEM somehow ? Except teammembers

There is no shared core developer between Nxt and NEM.
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 20, 2014, 10:35:30 PM
Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:

Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.

I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.

The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.

There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.

All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.

With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.

The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.

For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.

Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.

Write a PM to me!


I will buy all 90 accounts for 30 BTC and donate them back to the development fund if you can prove that you own all 90 accounts such as making the same post 90 times consecutively in one thread (all has to come from the same IP address). Escrow holding my money if needed. This is one of my BTC address 1KeZuWC7GHSQ949127UdFXyoTieGkzTroy so you know I am not joking.

BUT I strongly suspect you are a liar. A lot of liars have come forward and claim owning a large amount of NEM stakes so you are not alone.

Prove it.  
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: March 18, 2014, 05:53:59 PM
nxt voting must be based on stake. All other solutions are wrong. There is no chance to have verified accs in decentralized apps

Could you remind me what method that you guys just got voted to various committees ?

Ask RickyJames

it is stake based, isn't it ?
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: March 18, 2014, 05:44:21 PM
nxt voting must be based on stake. All other solutions are wrong. There is no chance to have verified accs in decentralized apps

Could you remind me what method that you guys just got voted to various committees ?
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 15, 2014, 01:15:42 AM
So what is this about??I occassionally come to see progress,and everyone is congratulating themselves.... for what?? Because you are closer to copy others work,and claim it is fair because you got some of it?? clap clap clap

This coin is being coded from complete scratch right now so i'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe if you stopped by more than " occassionally" you would know a bit more about this project.

everything is copied from Nxt,and you believe its built from scratch,makes sense xD
I dont like Nem or rubbish altcoins because they add nothing valuable.People dreaming they will get rich for nothing,but this is like any competitive ecosystem.Poker,sportsbetting,stock...   5% win,95 % lose. But keep feeding scam developers and selfish miners...

Its funny calling well distributed this coin,when 7.000.000 persons in the world wont take a piece.Ah,but you are in,so its suuuuuper faaaaair lol
Guess what,you are using exactly the same IPO system as Nxt,but with more people.In essence it is the same.

How do you know ?

I just think for myself,instead of believing weird neolanguage to scam people.

Okay. I thought you see the NEM codes somewhere.
531  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Looking for a Web Client developer on: March 15, 2014, 12:29:39 AM
The position is closed.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 15, 2014, 12:06:50 AM
So what is this about??I occassionally come to see progress,and everyone is congratulating themselves.... for what?? Because you are closer to copy others work,and claim it is fair because you got some of it?? clap clap clap

This coin is being coded from complete scratch right now so i'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe if you stopped by more than " occassionally" you would know a bit more about this project.

everything is copied from Nxt,and you believe its built from scratch,makes sense xD
I dont like Nem or rubbish altcoins because they add nothing valuable.People dreaming they will get rich for nothing,but this is like any competitive ecosystem.Poker,sportsbetting,stock...   5% win,95 % lose. But keep feeding scam developers and selfish miners...

Its funny calling well distributed this coin,when 7.000.000 persons in the world wont take a piece.Ah,but you are in,so its suuuuuper faaaaair lol
Guess what,you are using exactly the same IPO system as Nxt,but with more people.In essence it is the same.

How do you know ?
533  Bitcoin / Project Development / Looking for a Web Client developer on: March 14, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
We are looking for a Web client developer who would work with our developer to provide the front end for an alternative coin client.

We will pay for the contract in BTC or/and shares if wanted. Thanks.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 14, 2014, 12:45:02 AM
We're forming a SWARM team devoted to the promotion of NEM. We're looking members who are willing to do commenting and upvoting/liking articles, posts, videos etc. in order to promote NEM.

All interested, please send me email to the address nempromotion@gmail.com or PM with your email address and I'll list you!


For the record the SWARM team is not yet active, since there is no coin launched. We're forming the team now, so that we'll have it ready when the need comes.

E

How many swarmers do we have. When do u want to start the swarm assault  Grin it will be fun

We got 20+

...

NOT MORE??? COME ON GUYS, THIS SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 200+ !!!
Every stakeholder should sign into the swarm team --> nempromotion@gmail.com

Why not. I am in.
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 13, 2014, 01:47:56 AM
So, just to clear things up (for me and others):

  • Final contractual stakeholder list - sometime this month
  • Final logo decision - sometime this month
  • Alpha of client - sometime next month

Any more specific timeframes than these?

There will be a Development Contract Announcement this month. I am going to set it tentatively on March 29. The Development Contract Announcement will specify clear terms on core development team, development team, NEM community, respective expectation for each groups, development shares, current and future governance of reserve shares, development timelines, total NEM for each stake etc. After the announcement of the Development Contract, there will be a refund period. Anyone can get their money back if they wish to do so.

As I said in the past, the fund raising period  was more like a "call for participation" or if you take an investor's POV, the fee sent in is more like a reservation fee. As it is written in the disclaimer "No contractual promise is made to anyone" and it is indeed the case until the Development Contract Announcement.

The current estimates for the alpha version on testnet is in April and an official launch in May, but more specific time frames will be announced in the Development Contract Announcement. Official logo will only be needed before the official launch for the press release and promotions and the logo committee will take care of that.

On the administrative side, we are finalizing the refunding list after the public auditing, then we will invite more people in the waiting list to join. The final list will be ready before the Development Contract Announcement

I hope this is clear. Thanks for supporting NEM.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Thread for Nxt :: Descendant of Bitcoin on: March 12, 2014, 08:56:06 PM
I´m selling up to 20000 Nxt for 0.000068 BTC / Nxt  Wink
Simply contact me (pm, e-mail or skype)



I pm halcyon but he's offline.

I have 2.9 bitcoin sitting around. I wtb 42,000 Nxt. If nobody answers soon I will go to bter which I hate. I will send first only to known members. Otherwise escrow only with
anon136.

I can make this deal.
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 12, 2014, 05:09:25 PM
We are looking for a Web client developer who would work with thies1965 to provide NEM an awesome basic client upon launch and with asset exchange functionality  when we have V1 blockchain.

Contact utopianfuture for further information. If NEM community knows someone qualified, let him know we are interested. Thanks.  

Hi UF, is there a current ETA for the V1 launch?

Thanks!

We aim for June/July the latest but can't say anything for sure at least until we are on the testnet.
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 12, 2014, 05:00:50 PM
We are looking for a UI/ UX designer who would work with thies1965 to provide NEM an awesome basic client upon launch and with asset exchange functionality  when we have V1 blockchain.

Contact utopianfuture for further information. If NEM community knows someone qualified, let him know we are interested. Thanks.  

EDIT: Position filled.
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 12, 2014, 04:47:19 PM
I'm slightly confused with the state of things!

Is the public auditing over now? When will the final contractual stakeholder list be revealed? Smiley

When we have the development contract announcement, then the final stakeholder list is considered final. We will do that sometimes this month.
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 12, 2014, 02:09:36 AM
I great way to help are little one's , that really could use are help


http://www.feedone.com/


http://www.breakfastclubcanada.org/?region=ALL


 We all could do this right NOW  Wink

you seem like a kindhearted person  Smiley. We need guys like you in NEM. I think we can only do charity once we have a functional currency. For now best we can do is spread awareness of NEM and think of ideas to make NEM a viable form of currency.

I have a plan for charity (could be fun) when we make the development contract announcement. So start to think of your best charity.

UP are you thinking charity or charities? If the former than I would suggest a charity with global reach to reflect the movement and stakeholders

KC

I'm glad to see the NEM community will also be involved with charitable intentions. Personally, I like Kiva, Doctors without Borders and Direct Relief.
www.kiva.org  www.doctorswithoutborders.org  www.directrelief.org

Before the NEM team selects a charity, please use the free database in Charity Navigator to make certain they have a good performance ranking. The charities are scored based on financial health, and accountability & transparency metrics.  www.charitynavigator.org
Kiva scores 68.69 out of 70
Doctors without Borders scores 62.03 out of 70
Direct Relief scores 69.90 out of 70



I personally like Doctors without Borders . But there will probably be several charities that the money can go to.
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