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621  Economy / Gambling / Re: are bookies fortunejack.com & rollbit.com trustworthy with larger amounts ? on: December 06, 2023, 07:08:18 AM
why alot of ppl have issues with KYC ?  i dont have any issue with that

It's because it is the very tenant of crypto specially in the beginning, we just need addresses before, specially for withdrawal. After that it's smooth sailing, no need to give your personal information in the early days of online crypto, regardless of what amount you won or trying to withdrawal.

But when bitcoin or crypto grow in the last 5 years or so, regulators pushes every services to to follow AML/KYC policy, hence we are now required to send those information in a casino and obviously, majority doesn't want to because we still wanted to be private and anonymous.

I'll just let the community decide in this case, both have reputations here though but everyone has it's own thoughts on this case.
622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk - February 2024 in Saudi Arabia on: December 05, 2023, 11:30:32 PM
^^ Perhaps it was due to Usyk as a natural cruiserweight in my opinion that why he thought that he has that speed against those heavyweights. He shown it twice already against Anthony Joshua as he was able to slip that left hand of his many times because he is quick.

However, if he has the speed then Fury has the height and reach advantage and he knows how to use it. So maybe Usyk can throw some and hit Fury but what if Tyson timing everything and put a good counter and caught Usyk several times in this fight. It could be a factor later in the rounds, championship rounds that can make the difference in this fight if it goes 12 rounds.
623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you feeling FOMO like I am? on: December 05, 2023, 11:02:07 PM
I guess for long term investors or at least have safe enough already, it's not FOMO but a feeling of excitement to see this kind of price and of course your wallet feeling fatten by the huge surge in the last 24 hours.

But we are still very far though, I think FOMO will be around $100k?

And that's how it is though, when the price really going into the moon, people suddenly goes and put their hard earn money into bitcoin. But if you have to think, they should have invested when the price is very low.

And we will see more meme's in the coming days for those who will FOMO.
624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First Bitcoin Bar in Sofia, Bulgaria looks Interesting on: December 03, 2023, 08:38:31 PM
Do we have forum users from sofia, Bulgaria here with us on the forum? Check this bar out.
And to the general forum users, isn't this a good business idea?

I'm not from Bulgaria, but definitely, this kind of business is good for Bitcoin. Maybe they can held monthly or even weekly meeting there and talk about what else their favorite subject, BTC.

And they you have the chance to meet different people, know them by faces as we all know that maybe some of their chooses to remain anonymous.

Although it might be a haven for some cyber criminals to target Bitcoin enthusiast and committed what we call a 5 dollar wrench attack. So everyone should be very very careful as the statistics are growing with that kind of crimes, just saying.
625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Money laundering in crypto casino on: December 03, 2023, 08:17:55 PM
We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I don't think that the criminals will simply jump on reputable casinos to mixed or laundered their money there. Crypto based casinos as you have said, has AML and they have their own anti-fraudulent group if I'm not mistaken.

And chances are, if they see one then they will have to confiscate it, ASAP resulting to a lost to those criminals as well. And other like wagering requirements have been set up by casino themselves so that they won't be taken advantage by this criminals.
626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will another ETF be immediately bullish for Bitcoin? on: December 02, 2023, 09:09:59 PM
I think the outcome of these things are not really all that certain, and we should be careful when we are making decisions like this. I mean it's quite clear that ETF is something that government really takes a look at very clearly and closely, which means that it is going to be hard to get it accepted. I know that it may not be all that easy to handle, but it is going to be possible eventually. So, we should be clear on what we are assuming that will happen, if we keep on having too much hype about this then when it gets postponed like it always does, then we would be upset.

It's obvious though, we don't have the control and the power as to when the ETF will be approved by the SEC and for sure, we don't look at it this year. Nevertheless, based on the news that we heard and the entities involved, who knows, the likelihood though might be high as SEC can't delay or not approve it in the future.

Market learned about this the hard way, it has stopped caring about getting approved or not, because they realized without getting a concrete response, there is no need to buy or sell. Nowadays, we ignore it completely, and wait for it to get a response and if it any of them gets accepted then I bet the price will go up a lot but before that I do not think that we will react anyway.

With that, let the market flows normally, we have seen this already, and I think we have seen worst like in the bear market. But at the end of the day, the market is very resilient to attacks and negative news, so what's more with a positive outlook in a Bitcoin Spot ETF approval? Everything is good now. And lest we forget, there will be the block halving scheduled for next year.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) on: December 02, 2023, 08:55:29 PM
Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.

So if he beats Prograis, he may stay short unless there are big money fights to make. Otherwise, a move to 147 is expected. I'm curious though, what if he loses to Prograis? He's having a hard time making 135 but he can make bigger money with his 3 belts rather than build his resume at 140 for another title fight opportunity. And maybe Tank Davis gains confidence and is willing to fight Haney if he loses to Prograis.

I was really surprised to hear from him that he is vacating all the remaining belts he had at 135 lbs, so now he is a true 140 lbs and there is no going back. So yeah, if he wins here, for sure the plan will be is to become undisputed here.

But it will be a tough road for Haney, I mean he has to go to Teo Lopez first, as we all know the lineal champion. And then we have a new superstar, or at least he has cemented his claim at the belt that he has defended, Matias. A tough IBF 140 lbs champion and it will be great to see Haney or even Teo Lopez fight this guy.
628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2) on: December 02, 2023, 08:34:31 PM
Oscar said it would end in a KO, whoever it will be we yet have to see https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1730664888219861265
Ryan in Spence training camp I think will make him better though so I think he can make it.

Ryan after the loss against Tank somehow woke up and learned GB doesn't care about their star but just cash grab out of them. But now he is also on crazier ground, his promotion disrespects him despite him being the only popular fighter in GB.
Ryan have to bounce back here and make his name known again in the field of boxing, his first loss was a huge shock to many but that’s ok as long as he rise and bounce back again, I’m sure he can have a good promotions again. Few more hours and we will witness this two great boxer fighting for the belt, I’m rooting for Garcia here and he should be more confident this time and be more wise in throwing punches because Duarte is not an easy opponent for sure.

I wouldn't say that it's a huge shock to many, Ryan was the underdog that time, what's shock us is the manner on how he lost that time. His offense was not there, and there is nothing that he can do against Tank Davis. But later on we heard that the was a rehydration clause and it looks like Ryan wasn't able to rehydrate obviously.

But this time with no weight issues, he even goes above the 140 lbs here. So we shouldn't here any excuse after the fight if ever he lost that he was weight drain. Of course, I think majority of us here will be rooting for him. Maybe we are fans or just wanted to see this kid grow and become a world champion. So if he wins here, we wanted him to see against Teo Lopez or Haney.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 02, 2023, 01:38:07 PM
They already made a mistake for having Westbrook since they don't have chemistry with their team so its good if Lakers would focus to create good chemistry and confidence with their current roster.

That was the biggest decision that didn't went out well, they were suppose to make a big 3 but one has became a burden, good thing they let him go after 2 season I believe, so both teams in LA are happy now. The lakers are still revolving without Lebron, and old superstar that will continue to make history, but in terms of ranking as a championship team, that I don't know if they are even at the top 3 now.

With the present status of the Lakers, I don't expect them to even reach the same success last season, but I still have some hope since the playoffs is a different atmosphere, and you know, experience gives good advantage and Lebron and AD had that.

I don't think that they are a top 3 team in the West, they are inconsistent that there are games that they look championship caliber and then the next game, they can't even score and we can see Lebron's frustration as if he wanted to be traded on other teams or doesn't want to play with Lakers.

However, there could be some good news that Vando and Rui will be back in the roster. They've missed both fo this 2, specially Vando's defense and then Rui has a great time playing for the Lakers.
630  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for December on: December 01, 2023, 09:11:16 PM
I still think that December is going to be very positive, and if I'm not mistaken, December is always healthy for us. Or at least there will be a jump specially a week before the Christmas holiday, maybe a good increase and then follow by a small dump, in which we could only reason that people are selling to take profits for this season.

Same with New Year, increased then follow by some selling. Nevertheless, overall I feel that we will end the year with at least above $40k levels. This is round number and it's better to break that kind of price because for me it's a mental barrier. But once we broke it, we could be sailing to $45k.
631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: David Benavidez Vs Demetrius Andrade Interim WBC Super Middleweight title fight on: December 01, 2023, 08:50:02 PM
So still everything is in the hands of Canelo right now and it looks like he is not going to make his decision any time soon. Most likely he will go on and enjoy the holidays with his family and maybe January will be the time frame to see which fighters will he chooses to fight.

Canelo is done for this year, he'd made two successful fights this year and won via UD. He deserves a break and to enjoy with his family, but certainly he'll come back next year with a new fight, hopefully against someone who could really match him, like the fans will be puzzled a bit on who will win. I know against Benavidez the fans would stil favor Canelo, but at least they'll not think it's going ot be a one sided fight.

On the case about Canelo not fighting a fellow mexican, I think money can change this mind, so let's just watch out for that PATIENTLY.  Grin

But most likely he will take his vacation to really think who he will really wanted to face next to defend his belt. If Benavidez is the interim champion WBC champion, then as the regular champion Canelo should honor and fight David.

And yes, I don't know what Canelo says that he doesn't want to fight a fellow Mexican when we all know that there are few Mexican  that we know of that campaigns in his division or even none for that matter, this is just a excuse on his part.
632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 01, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
OKC is back in the winning column after back to back 2 close defeats against the other top teams earlier. I thought Lebron and AD would teach young OKC some veteran plays. But OKC exploded in the second quarter with a huge rally.  I like this young team, they are pretty sure tough to beat, especially in the coming seasons.

I thought that the Lakers will come strong in this game. But the OKC Thunder took the game from them. After a great performance, D'Lo just got 16 points in this game. So OKC is for real this season. And Chet still making a statement for the rookie of the year.

Meanwhile, San Antonio failed to stop the visiting Hawks. Trae Young erupted especially in the 4th quarter. So Spurs are now on a 13-game losing streak. And it seems like the bleeding won't stop very soon since their next games they will travel to New Orleans and Minnesota.

I think it is to be expected that the Hawks are going to win, it's just a matter on what will be the handicap. And for those who bet on the Spurs on the + side, they will obviously win, but still at the end reason, they are on the losing streak and we don't know when it's going to end.
633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far on: December 01, 2023, 01:35:38 PM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.

Right, lowest low for this cycle is around $15,500, when the news about the FTX collapse, and with that we are like 120%++ growth already and it's continuing as of this year as we still have one full month before the end of the year. And there are predictions that we will hit at least $45k, but remains to be seen.

But I think the title is somewhat misleading, maybe the better term is the highest for this year.

As usually all time high is reserved during the bull run wherein we reach a new milestone price as compare to the previous bull run of $69k.
634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 on: December 01, 2023, 01:17:27 PM
^^ Right, who wouldn't like to see a underdog, specially a Filipino beat the Japanese monster. Before we say that it could be Casimero as he almost got the chance to show us if he can or can't. But now, it's another Filipino, in Marlon Tapales that we will see if he has what it takes to pull that upset.


This is great for Tapales since almost everyone including most of his countrymen doesn't believe in him, he could just use this as fuel to be motivated and have high aspirations to beat Inoue because this is a great madness because I haven't even witnessed such kinds of humiliations where even Filipinos are laughing at him just by picking the fight with Inoue. He should come up with a working plan to beat the monster and it would be the greatest upset of all time in boxing history if ever that happened.

Yes, there are boxers that are good at it, to be motivated because no one believed in them. I do understand why some Filipinos are against him, yeah, read the some comments on some social media, in youtube as well. Saying that they love Tapales as their countrymen but they are going to bet on Inoue.

So if Tapales has the proper mentality here, he used not be discourage but used this to fuel the fire in himself, at least manifest that he can beat Inoue and he should play this in his mind. There was also interview of Conor about this kind of out of box training. In any case, there should be no pressure for Tapales, just do his best and just believed that he will beat Inoue.
635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin story on: November 30, 2023, 09:34:50 PM
I think one of the memorable stories that can serve as introduction of bitcoin to young people expecially children, is to tell them about about the beginning of bitcoin,  how people never believed in it or find it interesting because they knew it is going to be a boon in this modern day. I think a story will put lots of memories in the head of children which they will grow with to later learn bitcoin proper. I feel starting with a dip introduction can be complicated for children to comprehend.

I think introducing bitcoin as a story will be better for children to know about Bitcoin and it will be more interesting for them and they would want to get more details about bitcoin as they grow up.

I really don't understand why we need to introduce bitcoin to our young children? For me as a parent, I'm totally against it. There are a lot of lessons in life that you can tell them, and I don't think that bitcoin should be one of them.

In any case, though, we have a lot of similar topics in the past:

636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2) on: November 30, 2023, 03:29:31 PM
Do Ryan and Bernard Hopkins has a beef?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6bytr02m4_M

Probably this is a sign that Golden Boy and Ryan Garcia are really not in terms. I don't know what is the terms between Ryan and Golden Boy, but if it seems that this could be his last fight with Oscar's promotion.

Or is this the way that they wanted to promote this fight as everyone knows that as much as Oscar Duarte looks good in paper, this is a total mismatch and so they need to create more hype in this fight?
637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: November 30, 2023, 11:54:12 AM
However, someone attempted a 3 on the last possession of the Heat, and luckily it just bounce, so woah, big relieved for me.  Grin
I also saw that desperate final shot and we're lucky it didn't go in because it could've been a backdoor cover.


It's tempting to go for the bigger favorites like the Nuggets, Magic, or Lakers but i'm still scarred from what happened the other day. I switched my pick to the Suns since they've been on a good streak and should extend it even further if nothing goes wrong.


I was hoping the Suns winning streak continued but they let us both down tonight. Booker with only 8 points 5 rebounds and 5 assists kinda hurt. KD was the only 1 with a decent game.

I can't believe Booker could only score 8 points. He's a start who always bring at least 20 points per game but this game it looks like he was lock down by the defense of the Raptors. But then, I think it's justifiable though as they were travelling and winning games, possibly the fatigue factor for Booker took a hit on him that game, you can never tell though.

Yes, and again, it's the homecourt advantage of the Raptors here that's why they played very good against the Suns. There are a lot of good defender from the Raptors that can shut down Booker, plus as you have said they are very tired from traveling so fatigue is definitely a big factor from their lost.

We bet on the Lakers though? They make a good comeback win against a low team in Pistons. But at least they will have to get this W to bring back their confidence. D'Lo broke for 35 points and almost got a double double with 9 assists.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: David Benavidez Vs Demetrius Andrade Interim WBC Super Middleweight title fight on: November 30, 2023, 10:24:06 AM
^^ Of course their first choice is Canelo, but it seems that Canelo has the same reason why they don't want to fight David Morrell. So it will just go round in circles. So unless Canelo bring his oath of not fighting another Mexican, or think that David Benavidez deserves it with 2 great wins against Caleb Plant and Andrade, then it will be a go.

So still everything is in the hands of Canelo right now and it looks like he is not going to make his decision any time soon. Most likely he will go on and enjoy the holidays with his family and maybe January will be the time frame to see which fighters will he chooses to fight.
639  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Beginner vs. fast starter on: November 29, 2023, 09:15:05 PM
Everyone of us here started as a beginner, so yeah, we don't open that much thread and just prefer to read topics over topics to sharpen our knowledge. And with that, once we gain some understand, then that is the time we open threads and asks questions or share some that it very interesting.

I don't think there is such thing as fast learner, everyone started here at 0 knowledge. Maybe they just have a lot of time compare to others to browse the community and play around and gain that knowledge.

My tip as well is to bookmark those threads that you read and then comeback to really understand it.

In this way, you won't forget about certain topics that you want to discuss or what subject interest you.
640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happen if Bitcoin shutdown? on: November 29, 2023, 08:31:59 PM
I am just wondering, what will happen if Bitcoin shutdown? Will the market crash? How about the effect of this to altcoins? Can government shutdown Bitcoin? I have a lot of question about this matter, because who knows, right? Also, how about hackers shutdown Bitcoin? What are your thought here? Let's discuss this.

What do you mean, hackers can also get into our wallet, if you are talking about the 51%, it has been discussed many times already.

I will linked you to some discussions and see if for your self:


So Bitcoin can't be shutdown per se, and Blockchain's uptime is 99%.
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