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1341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 09, 2023, 06:40:51 PM
I’m reading reports now that the Warriors are or have (depending on the report) traded James Wiseman. I’m surprised by this. I thought he’d give them the athletic center they need, but I guess he didn’t fit into the system. I think if they gave him more minutes he could’ve been a much better player than he is viewed as and probably could have gotten them a better trade package, but it looks like they’ve given up on him. This opens a spot for Kevin Love…

Prior to this trading, I have read that they are contemplating on James Wiseman whether to trade him or not. But I guess the Warriors has made their decision to just let go of the kid. We don't know the reasons, maybe because of necessities or maybe they didn't find Wiseman a good fit for the Warriors at this point. Although there was a lot of hype on him when he joins the Warriors. Let's see if the Warriors are going to replace him with Kevin Love or get another big man to fill the void.
1342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: February 09, 2023, 06:24:26 PM
At least Canelo is being honest and chill despite his past issues and differences with Ryan. With regards to the venue, a stadium might be cool to cater to more audiences but the organizers might opt for smaller, easier-to-manage, and boxing-proven venues like the MGM. They can easily match the gate revenue by increasing the price of the tickets. There are a lot of rich people regularly traveling to Vegas.

But the main issue right now is who will promote and what network will telecast if a rematch clause is activated. I cannot believe they are confident that this fight is happening yet this one which is very important is not yet agreed upon earlier. PBC showing its toxicity in boxing once again. Al Hymen is greedy once again despite his fighter being clearly the favorite. Obviously, GBP and DAZN should be the ones handling if ever a rematch is happening.

The "rematch clause" is holding this fight back and if they can't agree on it then this fight might not happen at least this April 15. I think there will only be a rematch if Davis is defeated as he is the current champion so it's just fair that Golden Boy Promotion will handle the second if ever that happens so yeah that Al Haymon is killing this fight on paper once again.

Yeah, still hanging on the balance, I thought that they have settled who is going to cover and everything. But this time it's the rematch clause and it shows that Al Haymon doesn't want to give control to GBP in the rematch.

And suddenly, the negotiations turn ugly now, I just do hope that they will keep quiet on it and not let the public knows what's going behind close door. So that they can work it out first instead of going to media which might fuel for either side not to push for it.

This is a big fight, a championship fight, I think it deserves a rematch. On the promoters' end, I believe it's beneficial on them, and for the boxers, they will surely earn a lot of money as long as the first fight entertained the fans. It's not new IMO, why would a boxer does not want a rematch if he believes on himself that he can win again. Well, I'm not talking of the loser though because the losers will automatically want a rematch after the fight, for revenge.

Yes, definitely it deserves a rematch specially if the first fight turns out to be that good that fans wanted more. But the thing with this promoter right now is that they want to make sure everything is right before they agree on such terms.

And that is the stumbling block again in this fight. It's the question on how is going to control the rematch?

What's funny is, they even have the first fight and now they have issues on the rematch clause?
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 09, 2023, 06:09:11 PM
Good thing with Magsayo if he will win his fight against Figueroa and Vargas will step down again and face Magsayo for possible title match, money wise it will give Magsayo decent amount of profits, but first he needs to take care of Figueroa and make sure that he will be ready for Vargas if he decided to go back and negotiate for the possible fight.

Future will be much better for them as they've got that chance to make money with the fans who wanted to see how those fighters will perform.

I love to see that Magsayo will be taking his revenge to a fighter that had beaten him. This fight is his best chance though, he is fighting a good fighter so if he wins this, it only imply that he had learn from his mistakes and have made adjustments to make himself a better fighter.

Vargas vs Magsayo II, that's a good title, and everyone will be interested watching to know if Magsayo will successfully take his revenge, who knows? we might see a trilogy if he wins.
A promising title indeed.
Magsayo had that belt in the first place, he should be able to get a rematch and both promoters' sides should love the idea because it can hoard more money for both camps.
After this fight against Figueroa, he should pursue taking back the WBC title. I just wish it will be a different result when that fight comes.
Figueroa has the same goal as he did challenge Vargas for that title match last July (after he took it from Magsayo) but ended up being denied to get the opportunity because Vargas said he has nothing to gain from it.
This may end up as a great fight as both boxers are aiming to get the title match that they badly want.

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

Vargas though has move up in weight in his next fight, so if he is successful then he might not stay and give Magsayo a rematch even if Magsayo win this fight. Unless otherwise he also move up in weight and chase Vargas, but I doubt that will be the plan of Mark.

Maybe down the road they will have to clash again, but right now it's better that Magsayo focused first on his fight and get the belt and make his name relevant again. Let Vargas do his thing at 130 lbs vs Foster.
1344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you want to Confess on: February 09, 2023, 05:56:38 PM
Perhaps this is what we call regret and not confession per se. I think everyone has been in that kind of situation before, not trusting bitcoin or not believing on it. But later down the road, we realized our mistakes and should have been making huge profits already.

In any case, it's not too late though, the OP can still invest right now and then wait for the next bull run, probably in 2024-2025 to make a lot of profit.
1345  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can golden cross on S & P chart trigger buying in Bitcoin? on: February 08, 2023, 07:18:22 PM
Yes it would impact cryptos because we are risk on like stocks. However the question is whether this cross will actually work out. In the past whenever we got these MA crosses it sometimes worked and sometimes was a nice trap. So pretty much works 50% of the time. And at that point you pretty much can just use another indicator.

Yeah, if I remember correctly, this is the not the first time, and for sure not the last one that we are going to see in bitcoin. And in the past, it's surely a hit or miss on it. Of course there could be correlation with other market, but we all know that there are times that bitcoin will suddenly divert on these so called indicators like Golden Cross and others. So we will see if this could trigger something big, or obviously, nothing has happen in the last couple of days for us, the price is still very volatile and fluctuating between numbers.
1346  Economy / Economics / Re: The journey of Bitcoin. on: February 08, 2023, 06:55:35 PM
Retention is the key factor here. What's the point if the investors invest and quickly sell their assets and convert them into FIAT? Investors need to continue HODLING their stash for longer periods in my opinion.

This is only possible if the pros and cons related to BTC continue to rise and fall respectively over time.

Yes, retention, which means that you have the mental fortitude to stay in the game for so long that you don't need to quickly sell to fiat for nothing. So it's not that easy to invest in bitcoin in my opinion.

And obviously, it's not a get quick scheme. The journey will be long and hard, but there are investors who survived in the last 10 years investing in bitcoin and just selling it if necessary.
1347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Tony Harrison vs Tim Tszyu - Mar 13, 2023 on: February 08, 2023, 06:32:49 PM
I didn't realize that Tim Tszyu is already inactive for nearly a year. But it could a blessing in disguise, I don't really see him winning against Jermell Charlo. Jermell Charlo would've been too fast, too strong, too experienced, and too powerful for Tim. Tony Harrison is a good test and I want to see if Tim has improved a lot and if he is ready for the undisputed champ. If this fight is staged in the US, I'm pretty sure the odds would've been closer than what we are seeing at the moment. Tony Harrison is a very confident guy and is the only one that blemished Jermell's record although he lost in the rematch, it was very close before he was stopped in the 11th round. Hats off to Tim for not taking an easy fight.

On the other hand. It seems like Jermell has overdue mandatories already. Sebastian Fundora deserved a title shot rather than that worthless WBC interim. We'll see if Charlo wants a tune-up in his return or if he will right away face any of his mandatories.

Hopefully he will not go for a tune up once he has recovered from his injuries and go directly to Tim because that's what the schedule fight for him. And that is why Tim has to take a fight because he will have a long lay off if he wait for Charlo to heal. So it's better to take a get busy fight against Harrison, but it's a dangerous one. This is not an easy fight for him, or what we say a tune up fight. He has to push himself because Harrison is a tough challenger. The rematch is still close until Harrison gets over confident as Charlo stop him in 11 rounds. So Harrison is still very dangerous.
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how many times have you intended to stop gambling on: February 08, 2023, 06:05:25 PM
I think if you want to stop you need to stop, i know this sound like the same with other words, but not.

Definitely, but it's two different things in my opinion, it's the emotion though that you need to conquer. If you don't have control over it, even if your mind says to stop, you can still go back and gamble and continue.

If your mind and body tell you from the inside STOP no matter for what (most probably for losing money, or maybe time), you need to quit the gambling and re think all yourself and life, because you were hooked and you can fall more.

Again it's takes more than that. That's why gambling addiction is way different to let's say quitting smoking. It will really take a lot from you, mind, body and the help from within your circles, families and friends before you can quit gambling for good.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 08, 2023, 12:35:36 PM
Great time to break a scoring record while LeBron is on fire, unfortunately the Thunder spoiled it by handing them over the L. Now that LeBron is sitting at the top of everyone in terms of all time scoring, this somehow will not end the goat debate lol and that's for sure, this will only add fuel to this burning goat debate lol.

Anyway, I was wondering if there are people who put a bet on this one? I mean LeBron breaking the record against OKC and not against the Bucks.

That Goat discussion will lead to nowhere, everyone has his own goat, based on our criteria.

We should be be thankful for those who have seen the era of Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and now Lebron James reach greatness. In terms of ring, of course Jordan 6 out of 6. And if Lebron will just win one or two, then he could be in the Mt. Rushmore of basketball.

40,000 points is not that far for Lebron to reach, he is not stopping and getting stronger and probably can still go and play in the next 2-3 years, high level of basketball.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 06, 2023, 04:35:10 AM
So he moved to super featherweight and not going to defend his belt at featherweight? that's weird though, at least it's before to defend it one time before going up in weight.

He still holds the WBC Featherweight title. It's just that the WBC Super Featherweight title got vacated and as a WBC Champion at 126, he is qualified to fight for the vacant WBC 130 lbs title. If he wins, he needs to decide whether to continue in the new division, the 130 lbs, or return to 126 lbs to defend his crown or to push to his original plan, hoping for unification fights against WBA Featherweight Champion Leo Sta Cruz.

To simply explain this:

- if Rey Vargas will win against Foster, likely he will continue his journey at 130lbs and will give up his 126lbs title
- if Rey Vargas will lose against Foster, he will return to 126lbs as a champion and will mandatory face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa for his title defense match
- if Rey Vargas will finally move up to 130lbs as a champion, the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa will be elevated as a full champion

Someone can correct me on this if I missed something. Smiley

Thanks bro, I also try to analyze as well as why Vargas was in for the title shot or at least the chance to become a 2 division champion with a move up.

There are two great boxers in the WBC ranking, Oscar Valdez (former champion) and Robson Conceicao. Valdez lost to Shakur and lost his belt. But prior to that he fought Robson in a very close match. So obviously, WBC doesn't want to have Oscar and Robson fight for the belt again and given the chance to Foster which is rated 1 in their division. However, there is also rank 2 Eduardo Fernandez which was bypass by the WBC for their championship belt. So yeah, if Vargas win here then most likely he will retain and start his journey at this division and hopefully the first crack or his first defense will by Eduardo Fernandez.
1351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 05, 2023, 03:44:54 AM
Kyrie said he will re-sign with the Nets in the summer.
Kyrie also said he will stay with Durant for the rest of this season.

Now a change of decision right away lol. Maybe the Nets need to consider rushing things in a few days and grant what Kyrie wants. What a waste of their slot if the trade won't be executed and he will sit out the entire season. The Nets can acquire good role players in return with Kyrie's current worth.
I don't know if anybody aside from me saw some articles online, but aside from the Lakers, Mavericks and the Suns, the Clippers are joining the ride as well and they have a huge offer to give for the Nets just to get Kyrie Irving.

I made a quick search on which players the Clippers want to trade just to get Kyrie, but unfortunately I don't see anything. Now the question is, will the Clippers trade either Kawhi or PG just to get Kyrie? Or they will give draft picks plus role players just to get him? I would be excited to see the Big 3 of Kyrie, Kawhi and PG in the Clippers.

The Nets really wanted to trade Kyrie before the trade deadline (which is kind of surprising for me base on the article I read), and the Clippers are in need of a reliable point guard right now that can facilitate and at the same time, score.

I don't see either Kahwi or PG going to be traded if they are going to get Kyrie, both are untouchables in my opinion. It's probably Mann or Reggie Jackson and throw Norman Powell in the discussion as well and then probably future picks.

Speaking of the Clippers, they have a huge win against the Knicks in OT and Powell had a poster dunk against Julius Randle.

And he had a good game with 24 points to help them to get this win.
1352  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC rise described as false bull on: February 05, 2023, 02:44:58 AM
Well, I expect that the majority are not yet convinced with the current situation, doubts remain and I feel that every time when prices increase.
In two weeks of consecutive price pumps, I don't think we still need to think about it as a trap but we rather think this is gonna happen after the year in bearish. Might not be a bullish time in the market but I'd consider this as an indication that the demand is growing. Meaning that one of these days the price of Bitcoin will possibly reach $30k if the momentum won't stop.

If we mean that we are in a false bull because the real bull run is right after the block halving. But if we are referring to a fake break out, just like what we are seeing, price seems to jump from lowest low in November and then to $24k++ it concerns other specially TA guys.

But for us you just look at the long term perspective of the our investment, I will say we really don't care about the current trend.

If you we are looking for like the next all time high, and so we just continue to accumulate as much as we can, the price right now is good but we are looking in a bull run to the tune of 6 digits and that is the most important and not analyzing the price short term.
1353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8 on: February 05, 2023, 02:09:49 AM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.
1354  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for February on: February 04, 2023, 02:38:28 PM
I do think it's important to keep in mind the role of the Lunar New Year in driving demand for bitcoin. It's a time when many people in Asia, who are known to have a significant impact on the market, make investments and gifts. While it's definitely possible for bitcoin to surpass $25,000 in the future, I wouldn't be too surprised if the current high is just a temporary boost. Let's wait and see what happens in the next few weeks. March maybe a more affordable time for bitcoin to truly increase.

I doubt that it's the reason for the spike in price, I remember the same case in 2018, when people are speculating that the Chinese Lunar New Year will have a impact (be positive/negative), but it has none to be honest.

For this month, I think the sentiments will continue to be positive, so I voted to remain bullish and going to reach as high as $25k.

Again, the bulls have control of the market unless there is some negative news again or black swan event this month that will negatively impacted the market.
1355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 04, 2023, 12:04:00 PM


After successfully beat Mark Magsayo and steal his WBC featherweight, now Vargas decide to move to super featherweight and challenge O'Shaquie Foster for vacant WBC super featerweight title. The fight will happen on February 11, 2023 or next a week at Toyota Arena, Ontario, California, U.S. Based on the moneyline odds Vargas is favorite with 1.45x odds while Foster is an underdog with 2.65x odds.

Still waiting the odds for Rey Vargas winning via decision.

So he moved to super featherweight and not going to defend his belt at featherweight? that's weird though, at least it's before to defend it one time before going up in weight.

In any case, it seems that he is the favorite even though moving up in weight.

So let's see the other listing though, yeah, might be good to look for via decision as it could be a better odds instead of the ML.
1356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: February 04, 2023, 11:25:03 AM
^ Ya, that is crazy news that Kyrie has formally requested a trade with only a short time before the trade deadline. It isn’t totally unexpected though. KD hasn’t been healthy, Ben Simmons is a mess, and Kyrie wants to win championships. I think he needs LeBron. We’ll see what happens but I’m sure Lakers fans everywhere are hoping that a Kyrie for Westbrook trade happens. I can’t imagine it does for many reasons, but I’m not sure who is in a position to trade for Kyrie.
That would be a great deal for the Lakers if that happens but usually, we get to see these trades that are favoring the team that will be left or traded for.
This is an exciting developing story and if the rumors are true then there's an increased chance for the Lakers to be seen continuing to play together with Lebron but, it's on them to do the deal.
The question is if the Brooklyn Nets will agree with it. I mean, it's Westbrook and I do think Kyrie Irving is still more valuable than him especially when it comes to being dominating on both inside and outside shooting. Kyrie can definitely shoot and make successful isolation plays.
The Lakers should make the deal sweeter or there won't be any trade discussion that could happen.

If I'm not mistaken, the Nets management are willing to let go of Irving years ago, after he doesn't want to take the vaccine because of his own belief. And it really throw them off as obviously he can't play that time as the NBA mandated everyone to get a vaccine.

And then the whole statement of him, his anti-Semitic stance that cause him a 5 game suspension.

It just so happen that he looks valuable because there is no Kevin Durant and he become the main man. And with that, I think teams are reluctant to discuss trade talks involving Kyrie, in my opinion.
1357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) on: February 04, 2023, 08:04:02 AM
Figueroa has so far held only one fight in the featherweight weight category in which he really won by TKO, but he has no experience in this category, which cannot be said about Magsayo who owned the WBC title there, however, bookmakers, and tau AI give preliminary odds in favor of Figueroa, I don't think that victory for him will be easy. Magsayo after losing to Vargas, I think he is very motivated for this fight.

Hopefully that will be the case for Magsayo, he needs to be motivated and at least be in the hunt for the belt he lost to Vargas. No doubt that he is a good boxer, might not be the next Manny Pacquiao from the Philippines, but he has the talent to match up against the champion in the featherweight class. As you have said, he once held this belt when he bet Russell. So that should be in his mind that he is the champion and that he can bet Figueroa in this fight. Not sure about the AI prediction though, I wouldn't rely on that one.
1358  Economy / Speculation / Re: YTD Bitcoin Chart Vibes on: February 03, 2023, 09:38:30 PM

We are all going to be hosting our own parties soon sparing no expense because Bitcoin is going parabolic!

$1,500,000 per BTC soon. Its coming, by 2030? When maybe 2045? Who knows!? But I believe that it is coming!!
Sounds like it's too far to wait mate, as there is plenty of time and good things to be enjoyed by everyone before then. Besides, I personally prefer to see a four-year cycle in Bitcoin than a seven-year or more than once-fifteen year cycle, that's really long for me to wait and see the magic you say. I have absolutely no doubts about Bitcoin for this, but an increase in the price in the market for Bitcoin will always be colored by corrections and each correction always takes more time to rise again.

Agreed! But true bitcoins are really in it for the long game anyways, savvy? It will take time, and at times it will be brutal, and other times it will be epic. If you play the market right you can make money both ways, but i've never been one to do that. Although I wish I would take a chance with that. I think its just anxiety provoking doing that moving large amounts of funds to exchanges or elsewhere in hopes to trade and make a profit. I have always stuck to the HODLing approach and steady stacking myself. Nothing wrong with a little wishful thinking though. Of course, there is no guarantee that this will ever happen but I will say that it surely will be one crazy ride if it does!

I try before to play the market, but it's really hard to make money specially in bear market. I have nothing against those who short or learn how to make money regardless of what conditions. Nevertheless, for the majority of us, who don't possess such kind of knowledge, it's better to stick and not make things complicated in our end. Just buy and continue to accumulate, specially in the bear market, because it is where the best time to stack up sats and continue to buy thru DCA and then HODL as long as we can, till the next bull run and then new ATH!
1359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The market will come back bigger again on: February 03, 2023, 02:49:57 PM
Hello guys,
With this ordeal going on it seems much-lost faith and bailed as if the whole market is going to vanish. This kind of thing happens more often in the stock market with inside trading, embezzlement, etc. In reality, it’s a perfect time to get in with everything dropping so low. It will come back and come back bigger than ever after this dies down and there will be improvements to hopefully prevent this from happening again. So do not lose hope and know that the bad time will inevitably pass, and you may not be able to make up for this opportunity again. Just my opinion.
with market conditions like that we shouldn't need to worry and panic, for some people with bad market conditions is an opportunity to continue to add assets to their wallet, they will buy at a low value and sell when market conditions improve

That's how investors are, specially those who haven't had experience,

a. they are afraid of bearish market, when they should be adding more assets
b. they sell off and never comeback, or at least they are going back when we are in a bull run and price assets when they are already making a run.

So that is very wrong, we should accumulate when the price is low and that only happens in a bear market. And then sell it off to get a huge profit during a bull run and all time high.
1360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney on: February 03, 2023, 11:59:44 AM

I'm not sure though if Donaire is thinking retirement, I never heard from him telling the public about his plans. Even after Inoue knock him out, he still want to chase greatness at 115 lbs against Estrada, but now he chance his plans.

He still wants to fight, but I believe he mentioned that he wants to retire as a champion, so he would like to get a belt again, and with what happened. I don't know anymore if Donaire can still have a championship fight soon, seems like the chance is not fair for older fighters nowadays.

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Perhaps we should give him like 2-3 years to fight or less than that before he thinks of hanging his gloves for good.

But right now, the opportunity is there so why not take it.

But he cannot wait longer, he needs to be active to have more fights and to test himself if he still can dominate in this division.

I haven't seen a boxer who quit on top though, I mean if he becomes a champion again, I doubt he will just say's no I don't want to fight again. So obviously, it's up to the result of his next fight, whether it will be against someone like Rodriguez or Gaballo.

2-3 years might be quite long enough for his career, he is already 40 years old, and once a fighter reaches that age, sooner or later his body will be very different because of the effect, the wear and tear of being in this business for many years.

You are right, there's a lot of opportunity when you are a champion, so why would a boxer retire? It doesn't make sense, if he does really say it, then I think he has a different mindset, he values his achievement more than the money he will potentially get in future fights. Of course, there are boxers who retires during their peak, just like Mayweather.

Mayweather doesn't want to lose that's why he retire, didn't give Manny a rematch and contented that no one take his 0.

As compare to the GOAT like Muhammad Ali who is willing to face the best and not afraid to lose.

So for Inoue this is yet another opportunity for him to fight for the belt win or lose and he might be looking to set another record. If Manny become the older 147 lbs champion at 40 years old, Donaire can set that record too at the bantamweight division.
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