To be perfectly honest not the people who bought the ICO OR those who bought near the bottom in yesterday massacre. This stupid, stupid Edgar has left looking like the asshole that he is for no reason whatsoever: No one would have taken his 6,000 sat wall and he would have looked somewhat dignified instead of looking like the total asshole loser that he is. Coin is approaching 50% gains from the 6000 level and, in my opinion, sitting pretty... I mean, there's quite literally no space for further bad news, is there? Can you say that of any other coin out there?

You are absolutely correct in this last post...   and thereby lays the root of the problem: We are dealing with teen-agerish  (some into the 30s and 40s but still) geeks, unhinged jerkoffs finally getting off their parents' basements, through easy hacking-scamming means and having drugs, prostitutes instead of their usual solo show. THAT is the main problem... but also, in the higher skeleton, we have all kinds of manipulation and dissent. Half the BTC people is leaving (has left) to start their own BTC while the other half doesn't know how to solve the blockchain bloating problem... it's a mess. And the price rightfully reflects what's going on backstage. Solutions? Only time, no quick fixes because the problem is character so it is fully dependent on that. The sole exception -and I know you don't like this- is NXT and the James environment. Mind you, Jame's  modus operandi is quite blemished in many ways -no freedom, just following him, the worst-, including his Napoleonic complex and his refusal to come out of the woodwork... that in severely hindering his own possibilities in the real world, but truth be told, he is the ONLY ONE IN CRYPTO fully delivering in his promises. And that accounts for a lot of his success. I don't know much about his main enterprise in coin-world, BTCD but it just started paying the promised dividends and everyone seems happy with it while the price skyrockets... which is a double sword weapon because the higher it get the less meaningful the dividents, but they are there. He has an obvious problem still fully monetizing supernet but it is a clear advancement over NXT which is the sole shinning star in crypto -development is off the charts, eons ahed of the rest- whose success is so big that just to follow it results in something so complex and demanding that most people simply refuse. They are failing flat at making NXT accessible and usable and understandable to the common folk, but to anyone tech inclined, they are flawless and going EVERYWHERE, quite literally. They will EVENTUALLY find a way to monetize that success, while most of "the 73" continue dumping their new found wealth and making the distribution of NEXT more efficient. That severe and constant dumping is what holds the price of NEXT at levels roughly 1/4 where they should be in my estimation. But that problem will eventually be solved when the 73, or most of them, are either out of coins of with the ones they want to hold long term. People who think -like you- should invest 90% of their available investment capital there at current prices. It's the only winning proposition at high tech level in crypto's horizon.

As for start ups, that's more of your field than mine. The only one I am interested in, which I told you about long ago, is Mango. Because it is free. Well, now -still in beta I'm afraid-, it is already worth something... but that little, centralized app can easily be a life changer for early investors. Already trading between 20-40k sat, the Chinese are extremely interested in it and if the three kids that are developing would have anything under their scalp it would be stratospheric already. It is a potential huge winner and I am going to be actively participating, on my own. I will PM you on this. Expect great things there because the price can easily skyrocket...

On another coin, POT, I am invested -have had a good run of late since it was so absurdly cheap-. They are doing things right now there and they have an evident and growing exponentially use case. It's niche, but the best possible niche in crypto. They will be their own world within the crypto world, but I believe there's a lot of room to grow there and the "only" thing they have to do is maintain what they already have: Credibility in contrast with their mock offs.

Have a great weekend..

Please spare me the horseshit, ok? You are "building" this portal for one reason and one reason only: Money. Money for you, not for anyone else. You want to have sole access to trading information in a centralized way, ACTIONABLE information with guaranteed profits FOR YOU AND ONLY FOR YOU, ok? That's the purpose of this whole thing, nothing else, OK? And it is transparent to anyone at all that has anything, I repeat, under their scalp. P e r i o d. Dignity, a market manipulator like you? You don't have any idea what that word means... I doubt you would have any even after googling it... do it, just in case. It can only benefit you.

And I don't care if you have a lot of money or not, it's not mine so... you can spend it any way you want, but what you have done to "add liquidity", is both immoral and illegal. What you have done to inflate the price, is immoral and illegal. This is America, kid, you better be careful with what you do, alright?  Of course you would love to have "more liquidity", who the fuck wouldn't? but your project and you are killers: No one is interested. Really, no one. Liquidity, for you to get it, is NOT bringing offers (coins) to the market, it is just the opposite, having BUYERS. So far YOU are, basically, the only buyer here. That's why there's no liquidity. That's why there's no market for MTR. Not at 100k. Not at 50k not at 20k. The price doesn't really matter, because so far the only price of this coin is FALSE PRETENSE, no real investors. Just what you have sold to yourself (going to 400k+ was circus, really, don't you think?). Sorry that reality will bit you in the ass that way but I have been observing the whole thing since the beginning and your actions? Transparent, truly. Even a child could see what you were doing.

You are going to sell very few of those 400k. If any at all (I sense your real investors are all loaded up to capacity already and they surely won't pay 120k). So you will continue. Will you continue buying to keep it listed? I'm sure you will. But then what happens when, finally, those investors, including those posting here, realize that you have taken them for a ride and a very bad one at that, with no possible exit? Well, I just described to you the future.

Try to be honest (and act with dignity) next time. It sure won't pay worse that acting dishonest like you have and are, is going to.

You will NOT get the 500 BTC, you can count on that.

And, for now, forgive me but I am trying to set some straight things along another scammer at the ARCH mess. Be well... but you will NOT scam PEOPLE IF i CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

He's de facto abandoning the project fully as he stated very clearly: No further investment. No further client. AND, most importantly,m he retired the 100BTC wall at 6k sat that he himself offered. That in UNACCEPTABLE. AND FRAUDULENT. And, evidently, he committed insider tradingobviously.

Telling business associates and everyone in Portugal who he is and what he has done, or taking him to court, will NOT damage current holders at all. Be very clear about this: ALL is lost except the community and the listing. The rest is OVER

He did all that because I corraled him and he had no choice but come out clean. It was exploding anyway. And by come out "clean" I mean confess to everything. Thoroughly. Otherwise he would continue scamming the people at Pay for months...

He doesn't like to admit it, of course, but I have run him out of a couple others recently, including the last one, VIRAL, where he hasn't been able to make any decent money because of MOI. And it will go on, Bobby, Bob, Robert. Right until you are either in jail or wake up hanging by your balls from a not so soft thread. Preted as you will but Bobsurplus is done. And so are you, Robert.

How is it working for me? Famously. I am warning people of scammers like you wherever I find them -and believe you me, there's no shortage- AND, at the same time, I am doing quite alright investing ... not just in the good -very rare- projects but also in others that I consider scams, like ALL the hiper stakers. But I warn everyone just the same and tell them, openly that I trade them because they are scams, but tradeable scams. I never lie Bobby, Bob, Robert, you should know that by now.

I hope I'll detect you in some other endeavor of your soon enough. Looked for you today in ARCH and was somewhat surprised you werent there... Maybe I did not look deep enough? Nah, you are very little, by now insignificant really. But there are plenty others taking your place. And they are all my targets, just like you.

Do you realixe thst what you are in fact asking me to f o is to "let the dev (and the rest of us, supporters) steal just this one time, he -if successful- 500 BTC and you whatever the ooint where you sell is"?

Sorry, no dice.

This coin did not "run out of funding", the "funding" went into the pockets of the Portuguese scammer, which is a different story.

Forget about the moby shit. Forget about the 3d printer he just used in his office and thought he could con people into investing into some kind of business around it. This guy is a tool, good for nothing, ok? But the idea of an investment group in crypto -and outside of crypto- in which shares of the group are converted to tokens (crypto currency) and the sale of those tokes are the base of the initial investments, is a valid one. And this coin, at the ico price, can survive and I'd say even thrive with the right people in charge, not this trio of Portuguese idiot scammers, ok?

The coin is listed. This guy needs to pay back restitution for what he has done. It is a matter of a quick take over and this will double in price instantly... with the right team at the helm. It is that simple.

You are too attached to this -you have your moolah in it- and therefore have lost any perspective about how reality works. You see, the (very few) good projects that are out there, they may be criticized, fuded if you will, and they not only survive, but thrive. The bad ones, unfortunately, don't suffer because for every sensible, deeply informed individual that takes them up to test, there are a dozen -initially more- blinded-by-greed individuals such as you that throw voluntarily their money and allow themselves to be scammed... unfortunately again, along with a couple dozen or more newbies with a bit of BTC trying to get rich quick. That's why my effect is nil, really. Or minimal, if you want to assign some wight to it.

So worry not, your game of smoke and mirrors will proceed unscathed, I assure you... but it is and it will be revealed soon enough, as what it is.

I believe you have completely lost contact with reality. But I'm flattered... wow.

Once again you don't want to understand: MTR is not a crypto project. Crypto aspires to be DECENTRALIZED, not centralized, like this. That's why I insist in making it clear in another project that I fully support, but it is neither crypto nor decentralized. Which would be fine, if everyone is made aware of it.

But the main thing that you refuse to acknowledge, is that this guy is manipulating the price and, if he were to be successful, which he is not going to be, he will make out with 500 BTC. That is not acceptable under ANY consideration. You want your project to compete, that's fine and dandy, but if you manipulate the p[rice in the real world you go to jail; in the crypto world you get called out by Barabbas. Period.

As I stated many times, I don't believe this project is good at all and obviously not good for crypto BUT I would stay away after expressing my reasons if this guy would have played a fair game. He hasn't and he isn't. Buying your own coins is the right hand paying the left hand for something that doesn't exist... except to eventually sell it to unsuspecting noobs. NOT ACCEPTABLE, ok? Go out there and instamine. In the open. Make a fair ICO where you don't participate yourself and let the chips fall where they may. Then you will have support and, maybe, if the project has any value, loyal kind. But not this. This is playing a trick with everyone: With you to create the illusion your iCO investment has tripled or whatever; and with noobs because they will believe his bullshit manipulation. Sorry but not, regardless whatever you have convinced yourself to believe, this is just smoke and mirrors... AND YOU KNOW IT. Or can easily corroborate it: Try to sell any respectable amount and you will see what is there, ok? This is not what the toshi shit can be in a year, not about that. By that time this guy will probably be who knows where and the toshi thingy has been left unattended and fully exploited by him gambling with those 500 BTC he could scheme out of you and others like you and, with the benefit of the info that he gets before anyone, make a killing, only himself, b etting precisely against the likes of you. All of this you KNOW IT already, you just have forced yourself to believe that it is not so, but you know very well what I am talking about and, more sadly, you know deep down I am right. You just, forbid me to say this but there's no alternative, want to benefit from taking those noobs for the same ride and, if they pay the 120 and beyond, then you really can sell them yours bought at ICO for x4 what you paid. For real. Sorry but not on my watch. If you get away with it, more power to you. But I will warn everyone that I can of what the nature of this project really is. The time is NOW.

Respect your "elders", please. There's a very solid reason to be 100% negative on this one at the moment, don't you think?

How's that? Why? What was true a few months back at ICO is not anymore?

Oh boy, that's just about the worst endorsement possible... Like VIOR Rakesh?

 But you post that now, in retrospect. What were you doing yesterday at this time?

^^^^^^^^^^^

And I thought I had seen bullshit...

That could be -and I am not saying that is the case- that he cannot think of any more improvements or features to add to it. Or that are quite unnecessary. I don't know. Perhaps that the efforts are going to be concentrated on that Moby thing... I'm not defending this guy who I find quite disreputable, as a matter of fact, I'm saying that the project is not being abandoned, as far as I can tell and that it is quite far from dead. If everything true, I would find the announcement actually refreshingly honest.

Of course, until proven true, I wouldn't believe a word BTCarchitect says in a million years...

I see A LOT wrong with that, as I have posted extensively. He shouldn't remove it. There, I posted it AGAIN.

That said, if the market price doesn't reach that threshold, it is of no consequence. THAT's what I have posted. Several times.

And monkeys could also fly out of my ass. Fact is that you are over reaching. What stood at the ICO, in my view, stands now only more solidly. I believe most people will not be selling much below current levels, definitely above ICO price, in which case the wall -which I insist Architect should have not removed- would be inconsequential at every level.

And by the way starting a question with WTF doesn't endear you particularly nor will elicit any further answers, ok?

Wow, aren't you the optimist one? I don't know about ARCH but I would think what stood at the ICOP equally stands now. At the very least. I could, of course, be wrong.

And in regards BTC, I'd like to believe a double is in the horizon much more likely that any further, significant drop.

Wow, this time around, I am on the optimist side... quite a rarity in my case...