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661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 06, 2021, 11:00:04 PM
"arielbit" could had made decent money with an easy 4x but decided to FUD ADK and be an epic fail. Congratulations!

decent? aidos market is as shady as fuck(Georgescamsoros shilling that shady exchange  Cheesy ), will never trade there..those BTCs there are your ICO money LOL

those unheard of small exchanges have no coins in it, same with bittrex. it will pump to make newbs FOMO and start putting bids, but guess what? those who have the big bad scam bags are just waiting to dump on you again.

remember 200k sats to break even...4000sats? LOL told you this is getting cheaper and cheaper to pump and it is/was

decent money? there is not even 1BTC worth at the sell side at ~1k sats at bittrex..meaning not even 0.1 tops to make there haha. told you it won't even tickle  Wink

I double dare you scamming aidos market to put those BTC in bittrex..if it even exists hahaha

Oh boy, you dont have seen anything yet...

wow euphoric at 4k sats? LOL it can still go up to 40k, anything above that the higher the risk of losing money...scams pump the hardest, i told you earlier. what i want to see is 200k which will clearly never happen  Grin

I am indeed euphoric, because of this:

https://fi.ee/en/distributors-providers-cross-border-e-money-services/uab-payrico

yeah worth something but definitely not 200k sats LOL..you should be euphoric when you are in the positive side, a lot of you who bought are still underwater hehe

BTW folks notice that these shills are always saying dollars$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ? because they actually lost money if they consider the BTC value hehe

bro you need to stfu as you have nothing else of value to say.  you're fudding is backwards dumbass.  you fud shitcoins/dead projects or coins that need a kick in the ass to get going...oh and scammers....none of which are adk.  please leave your parents basement for once.  you keep talking about things/price right NOW.  it is of no value as everyone is looking for moon due to COME in the next months.  idiot.

actually it is you who is not saying anything of value..look in the mirror LOL

shit post and shit talk but no value and can't even engage my intelligence  Tongue


my take is 5-10 bucks before march with 40-50 bucks by summer (hoping).


yes 5 bucks at how many sats? haha

this is not the same as 99% of the shitcoins out there.

but 99% of btc value lost LOL ...who is the idiot now?  Cheesy

lmao calling me a shill...right.  dude i call out the good and bad on this site, some end up going good, some end up going bad. i don't shill/need to shill shit you fucking moron, i've made my money since late 2017. duuurrr.

i advised to buy cheap the past year, hopefully dummies listened.  i could have told you all to buy at 10-100usd but trying to be nice/help to get ppl to MAKE money (as i have done before on this site). Smiley

it is only 1k+ sats at the end of november to december that's 1/12 of the year, the rest of the year from January to october it is actually more expensive than today 4k sats and above...a lot more expensive in 2019

idiot.. moron.. idiot.. moron.. idiot.. moron.. hahahaha  Grin

BTC fucking flying wooooooo...all alts dumping....EXCEPT $ADK

ADK strongk like bull!

the next few month are gonna be epic.  Cool

so buy/hold and enjoy...or don't and cry later.  up to you.

great buy in price the past few weeks due to someone/ppl playing the markets.  thanks for the cheap coins (yes i said it ahahahaha).  hope they enjoy the tears.

bad moronic advise or bad idiotic trader? you choose haha  Grin

.. but trying to be nice/help to get ppl to MAKE money (as i have done before on this site). Smiley

you are a joke and a loser...you got that? rub it in your face again...and again...and again ..and again Tongue



662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 on: January 06, 2021, 12:51:46 PM
Would make no sens to make the 3070TI better than 3080’s . Specially for cheaper price .

Also with the price hike coming up due to tarifs between china and usa gpu’s won’t be cheap to buy .

Who ever got themselves gpu’s , mb’s and ssd’s will be happy they got in early

it can be better for mining memory intensive algos for efficiency and temps but for gaming 3080 is still better in performance.
663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 05, 2021, 11:23:34 PM
"arielbit" could had made decent money with an easy 4x but decided to FUD ADK and be an epic fail. Congratulations!

decent? aidos market is as shady as fuck(Georgescamsoros shilling that shady exchange  Cheesy ), will never trade there..those BTCs there are your ICO money LOL

those unheard of small exchanges have no coins in it, same with bittrex. it will pump to make newbs FOMO and start putting bids, but guess what? those who have the big bad scam bags are just waiting to dump on you again.

remember 200k sats to break even...4000sats? LOL told you this is getting cheaper and cheaper to pump and it is/was

decent money? there is not even 1BTC worth at the sell side at ~1k sats at bittrex..meaning not even 0.1 tops to make there haha. told you it won't even tickle  Wink

I double dare you scamming aidos market to put those BTC in bittrex..if it even exists hahaha

Oh boy, you dont have seen anything yet...

wow euphoric at 4k sats? LOL it can still go up to 40k, anything above that the higher the risk of losing money...scams pump the hardest, i told you earlier. what i want to see is 200k which will clearly never happen  Grin

I am indeed euphoric, because of this:

https://fi.ee/en/distributors-providers-cross-border-e-money-services/uab-payrico

yeah worth something but definitely not 200k sats LOL..you should be euphoric when you are in the positive side, a lot of you who bought are still underwater hehe

BTW folks notice that these shills are always saying dollars$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ? because they actually lost money if they consider the BTC value hehe
664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 05, 2021, 11:14:07 PM
"arielbit" could had made decent money with an easy 4x but decided to FUD ADK and be an epic fail. Congratulations!

decent? aidos market is as shady as fuck(Georgescamsoros shilling that shady exchange  Cheesy ), will never trade there..those BTCs there are your ICO money LOL

those unheard of small exchanges have no coins in it, same with bittrex. it will pump to make newbs FOMO and start putting bids, but guess what? those who have the big bad scam bags are just waiting to dump on you again.

remember 200k sats to break even...4000sats? LOL told you this is getting cheaper and cheaper to pump and it is/was

decent money? there is not even 1BTC worth at the sell side at ~1k sats at bittrex..meaning not even 0.1 tops to make there haha. told you it won't even tickle  Wink

I double dare you scamming aidos market to put those BTC in bittrex..if it even exists hahaha

Oh boy, you dont have seen anything yet...

wow euphoric at 4k sats? LOL it can still go up to 40k, anything above that the higher the risk of losing money...scams pump the hardest, i told you earlier. what i want to see is 200k which will clearly never happen  Grin
665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 05, 2021, 11:03:45 PM
"arielbit" could had made decent money with an easy 4x but decided to FUD ADK and be an epic fail. Congratulations!

decent? aidos market is as shady as fuck(Georgescamsoros shilling that shady exchange  Cheesy ), will never trade there..those BTCs there are your ICO money LOL

those unheard of small exchanges have no coins in it, same with bittrex. it will pump to make newbs FOMO and start putting bids, but guess what? those who have the big bad scam bags are just waiting to dump on you again.

remember 200k sats to break even...4000sats? LOL told you this is getting cheaper and cheaper to pump and it is/was

decent money? there is not even 1BTC worth at the sell side at ~1k sats at bittrex..meaning not even 0.1 tops to make there haha. told you it won't even tickle  Wink

I double dare you scamming aidos market to put those BTC in bittrex..if it even exists hahaha
666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 on: January 05, 2021, 10:49:50 PM
rumours 3070ti to have 320 bit gddr6x 8gb (like 3080) and 3080 super to have 384 bit gddr6x (like 3090). Any thoughts?  Huh Grin

this 3070ti will be better than 3080 if that the case, less power consumed less hot..and we know there is an issue about the temps of those gddr6x.

3080 super will be like 3080 super "hot" LOL ...hmm this will do above 100MH if that's the case. and since it will be cheaper than 3090 and will be x3 of 1080ti at least in mining algos..that's irresistible for an upgrade.



If 3070ti has ddr6x, the problem of mem temps too hot remains here too no ?

yes, but you have to consider the whole gpu, if the cores of 3070ti are less hot then it will affect the gddr6x because they are in the same board, and for the whole mining room it is less hot too.
667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 05, 2021, 05:48:08 PM
lmao calling me a shill...right.  dude i call out the good and bad on this site, some end up going good, some end up going bad.  i don't shill/need to shill shit you fucking moron, i've made my money since late 2017. duuurrr.

meanwhile, adk just got their central bank license approved today, with # and all.  this one is breaking new grounds, even if twitter personalities don't shill it or mention...they don't know the half of it (well, some do Wink )  

see you fud/non believers from the fucking moon hahaha.  

i advised to buy cheap the past year, hopefully dummies listened.  i could have told you all to buy at 10-100usd but trying to be nice/help to get ppl to MAKE money (as i have done before on this site). Smiley

you said "trying to help people to make money"? then you are not helping if some end up going bad LOL

adk is a crypto not a bank.. (whatever the name of that bank) is the one that got it's license.

...see 1 BTC can pump and dump this shit in bittrex hehe.. enjoy your 0.01 BTC profit haha

BTW bittrex markets are getting some action now..altseason and bull market time  Cool

don't get blinded by "banking" folks i've seen a scam bank in my lifetime that runs away with the money after declaring bankruptcy.

hey rico..throw back some BTC from the ICO into bittrex okay? at least give some of the BTC back to investors LOL

668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Nvidia 3000 Series the BEST GPUs for MINING EVER?! RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 on: January 05, 2021, 05:23:30 PM
rumours 3070ti to have 320 bit gddr6x 8gb (like 3080) and 3080 super to have 384 bit gddr6x (like 3090). Any thoughts?  Huh Grin

this 3070ti will be better than 3080 if that the case, less power consumed less hot..and we know there is an issue about the temps of those gddr6x.

3080 super will be like 3080 super "hot" LOL ...hmm this will do above 100MH if that's the case. and since it will be cheaper than 3090 and will be x3 of 1080ti at least in mining algos..that's irresistible for an upgrade.

669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: January 04, 2021, 10:58:07 PM

and try to push hot air from cards exhaust part with high rpm fan (noisy but good at pushing air)---this is better than pointing fans to gpus, with wrong setup these high speed fan can have conflict of 'air dynamics' with gpu fans.
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thanks, you make a very good point there. 
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that way you will be able to max out the room's temperature threshold, but when you maxed it out, you can't cool the cards further, it is the room that you need to vent.

and careful with your hands, those screamers can wound you.




I have to admit if I see a great deal, I'll probably buy another card, I have a 10% cashback coupon Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



we are about to enter the part when buying "i'll add another one" and another one aaaaaand another one trying to fit everything in our space... it is always never enough hehe
670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 04, 2021, 08:54:52 PM
so full of fail.  you must be trying to fud this coin/project for a reason, either keep it cheap so you can buy more...or just mocking because one of your other coins got shit on/you feel the need to protect it?  or you try to shitpost like me to 'convince or prove' a coin is total garbage.....when in fact this one isn't you idiot.  lmao...so nice try...imagine fudding a coin that will soon be top 30 in CMC hahahaha.

come back in a few months, let me know how it feels.

I'll leave the "or" for brainstorming. on the other hand you are looking to be more likely a paid shill or someone desperate to get his money back LOL  Tongue

no need to focus how i feel to this shitcoin because i have other stakes on other coins i can miss adk pump and dump if it happens it won't even tickle   Wink

keep dreaming of top 30 ... it is a dream only  Cheesy ..you're not gonna lose money dreaming unlike putting BTC to this shitcoin and really losing haha

He is a paid shill talking from India. Ricardo paid him 1 million rupees to shill ADK for 3 years straight.

Or better yet, perhaps it is Ricardo talking to you, did you think of this option also?

yup, paid shill is a high probability. ricardo is a hiring man so there are no good devs, he is also  circle jerking with GeorgeSoros since 2017 (page 7, Piston Honda 1st ADK post in this thread)

Anyone wanna acknowledge the distribution method, or is it gonna be run in the same willy nilly fashion?

The good news is that Aidos held it's value during all the crashes due to setting whatever price they feel like and having no exchange  Grin

Aidos first listed on cryptodao.com, but Ricardo Badoer explain on slack they tried to exit scam the money of users so he asked them to delist them from cryptodao.
Ricardo handle the situation with this crap exchange for back the ADK of all users, and for some he took from his own pocket to give them (i experienced it and he give me back my money stolen by cryptodao) , its a very kind hand from the Head of this project, he took care of his investors, we are a few community ( 300 person ) but we are all thankful for this guy.

About the exchange, again Ricardo received deal for list on cryptopia and yobit, but its a DAG tech and very hard to implement on exchange ( IOTA about 2 years for list it)
So he decided to take the whole thing with advance and created the own exchange of Aidos, Aidos exchange is a full exchange allow fiat pair, Bitcoin, litecoin etc like poloniex for example.
If you look forward in the thread you can see the aidos exchange have all service can provide a " normal exchange ", 2FA, fiat deposit, decent pair for trading, live support, sober and professional interface.

We are all expecting the release, end of July, start of august. Lets hope he will allow Buy ADK with Fiat and not only with Bitcoin/Litecoin

from what i hear this is legit and the dev is good and doesn't fuck around, which is good.  getting in on this one now (ground floor) is a GOOD idea! Cool Shocked

i think we could have a surprise project on our hands here in the coming months.  their aidos exchange site needs to tweaking though lol wtf.  but yes, the coin/project and investments are the key thing right now, not the mode of distribution.

GeorgeSoros BTW never left this thread...only ADK exclusive like a paid shill/salesman/bitch

is this how you call "good" for a dev? "does not fuck around" LOL ..yup he is a shitposter, shitty post and hollow logic.. BTW nobody wants to be like you piss honda hehehe
671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: January 04, 2021, 08:43:50 PM
frustrating for me being in a part of the world where our summer temperature very hot...had to downclock/undervolt and sacrifice some hashrate on a rig today on account of ambient.  2x40cm fans directed on rig with plenty windows open etc and still had mem temps running 80-84deg thats with gpu's fans tuned 75-80%

great cards so not knocking them just with weather like this need to consider diff options..and ive got another 2 months of this before it starts getting cooler  
  

focus on cooling your mining room (keep finding ways to exhaust and intake) and make significant distance between cards (riser)

and try to push hot air from cards exhaust part with high rpm fan (noisy but good at pushing air)---this is better than pointing fans to gpus, with wrong setup these high speed fan can have conflict of 'air dynamics' with gpu fans.
672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aidos Kuneen: Anonymous & Zero fees [Banking + Instant conversion to fiat] on: January 04, 2021, 12:27:27 PM
so full of fail.  you must be trying to fud this coin/project for a reason, either keep it cheap so you can buy more...or just mocking because one of your other coins got shit on/you feel the need to protect it?  or you try to shitpost like me to 'convince or prove' a coin is total garbage.....when in fact this one isn't you idiot.  lmao...so nice try...imagine fudding a coin that will soon be top 30 in CMC hahahaha.

come back in a few months, let me know how it feels.

I'll leave the "or" for brainstorming. on the other hand you are looking to be more likely a paid shill or someone desperate to get his money back LOL  Tongue

no need to focus how i feel to this shitcoin because i have other stakes on other coins i can miss adk pump and dump if it happens it won't even tickle   Wink

keep dreaming of top 30 ... it is a dream only  Cheesy ..you're not gonna lose money dreaming unlike putting BTC to this shitcoin and really losing haha
673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: January 04, 2021, 04:22:27 AM
Glad you liked the song, in the last pump people were very creative
here is a couple more you may have heard but i like to listen to when we time are exciting
Blame it on MT.GOX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
The song from your previous post is golden, "Blame it on MT.GOX" is good too. Others not so much. Good job finding these.


ETH hit $1006 per coin, my orders went through, I may happily retire now. Good luck guys!

I've sold some of my ETH bags a few hours earlier. I think around $950 or so. I think these are the ETHs that I actually mined back in 2018 and held thru ETH going under $100 twice. So I don't want to get greedy, especially at $1000 an ETH.

I am getting worried here because it seems BTC might have peaked since alt coins are all of a sudden going up 20-30% a day. This is pretty much what started the 3 year bear market back in 2018. Bitcoin peaked and then alts peaked and then everything tanked. However the same situation happened back in November and we still kept making news high.

So this is either the BTC top or there will be one more advance and then top. However I've been saying "it might be the top" since we hit $14K last year. Hopefully I am wrong again.

the "one more advance and then top" might be like.. the part when BTC breach the previous top of 1k and stabilize at 3k and then got up to 10k.. up to 20k spike

compared now BTC breached 20k top, where will it stabilize? will there be another "advance to the new top"?, I think BTC will hit 60k with good probability the top spike might be around 100k

for ETH..1k is just the previous top, there is a very high probability that 1k is not the new top around x10 is the new top in crypto land...10k maybe..hehehe
674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: January 03, 2021, 06:03:20 PM
who says nvidia 3080 are expensive? now that ETH is above $900 LOL

if you are getting 1 ETH a day, that means 1x 3080 a day..or if you are a small miner then it is 1x 3080 every week hehe
675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 03, 2021, 10:58:43 AM

The aim is to become better than cash...not as good as cash

Well you didn't succeed then. You made it worse by encrypting the entire transacting platform instead of targeting fungibility specifically.


you just said it became worse without explaining why it got worse. LOL I win.

The aim is to become better than cash...not as good as cash, that's innovation and moving forward..a true fungible, private, and anonymous transaction.

Monero can never be better then cash, when its transactions need 10 confirmations before getting spendable.
Source : https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/4579/is-the-10-block-lock-time-a-protocol-rule-what-rules-accompany-it

Monero can never be better then cash, when its users have the ability to timelock each transaction with very high block confirmations before getting spendable
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When receiving monero, be aware that it may be locked for an arbitrary time if the sender elected to, preventing you from spending that monero until the lock time expires. You may want to hold off acting upon such a transaction until the unlock time lapses. To get a sense of that time, you can consider the remaining blocktime until unlock as seen in the show_transfers command.
Source : https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/README.md
(always interesting to see a high risk vulnerability Monero Github issue getting solved by just mentioning the risk in some readme.md on Github that few people read)

Dash transactions are spendable within seconds, secure and protected against double spending.
Source : https://www.mycryptopedia.com/dash-instantsend/

timelock - happens in what we call check transactions in traditional banking, it is a feature that can be used depending on the nature of the transaction.

10 confirmations - security, there are extra steps to secure things, like locking doors, locking vaults, typing passwords, typing 2fa etc...those 10 confirmations is the "extra step" for security.

10 confirmations vs cash = you still have to count $1,000,000 (for both payer and payee), can it fit inside your pocket? can you carry it on the streets?


did i just say monero complements bitcoin? if you want fast and small payments, how about lightning network? hehe

dash anonymity path is dead end and the fast transaction path is also a dead end...sorry....next in line is dapps?---dash will try becoming ethereum too LOL  Cheesy
 
676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 03, 2021, 08:48:18 AM

the aim is privacy...

If you're part of the cult that you appear to subscribe to. Then I suppose it is.

But it's a cult. Not a monetary property  Wink

Ordinary cash, whether its gold, paper or whatever is not "private". The transacting platform can never be "private" because that requires it to be hidden. It's fungible. What you call "50-50" is actually a decoupling of 2 separate objective. One is to make the "cash" fungible and the other is to make the transacting platform (as distinct from the cash) transparent.

The aim is to become better than cash...not as good as cash, that's innovation and moving forward..a true fungible, private, and anonymous transaction.

Dash aims just as to be as good as cash..just like USDT and other stablecoins LOL
677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 03, 2021, 07:45:23 AM

Two words, mixing and unscramble--explains everything.

I can manually mix something and then someone else can unscramble my mixing.
Provide some specific proof that Bitcoin Mixers can be fully traced these days.

Take time to watch the link i gave you...they got caught eventhough they used mixers...the mixings got unscambled btw

That is still one case about a Federal Prosecutor on a specific case with the full power of her office.
Does not mean all Bitcoin Mixer transactions are fully traced every minute / hour / day.

A Federal Prosecutor could most likely do that to a Monero transaction as well these days.

That's 2014...after 7 years they can apply those to exchanges.

Mixed can be unscrambled


Looks like there is a move from Bitcoin Mixers to Bitcoin Privacy wallets connected to Tor and making CoinJoin transactions : https://www.cryptopolitan.com/privacy-wallets-their-growing-role-in-bitcoi/
I always thought Bitcoin Mixers used CoinJoin, looks like they are actually used differently :

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Bitcoin Mixers are coin randomizers. They usually make sure that the value of Bitcoin exchanged between a sender and receiver differs greatly. At the end of such transactions, the mixers then make it extremely difficult for the transaction to be traced back to the wallet that initiated the transaction.

However, mixers have a litany of issues and a growing number of regulators have been able to cut their influence. The crypto scammers have seeked an alternative which is the use of privacy wallets.

Tor is also not anonymous.. We think it was back then. So mixing tor and coinjoin is not anonymous.



Mixed can be unscrambled

Monero = encrypted, you can't unscramble encrypted, you have to decrypt it.(non transparent blockchain)

Sounds like you're arguing that Dash is like Bitcoin then and perhaps should be treated the same.

But tell me, once you deposit/trade/withdraw your XMR on an exchange which forced you to KYC how does Monero's encryption hide this activity from the relevant authorities?

Seems to me, banning privacy coins from exchanges is a misinterpretation of the new laws being put in place. In fact I would think it's better to direct XMR traffic to exchanges to be better monitored for possible money laundering and other misbehaviors.


They know you have an X amount of xmr in your exchange account but they cannot trace where it came from and cannot trace where you  will send it.

Dash is just like bitcoin in terms of privacy, but marketed to be good enough as a privacy/anonymous coin which dash will be treated as such LOL





Two words, mixing and unscramble--explains everything.

I can manually mix something and then someone else can unscramble my mixing.
Provide some specific proof that Bitcoin Mixers can be fully traced these days.


Take time to watch the link i gave you...they got caught eventhough they used mixers...the mixings got unscambled btw

Both of you have lost the plot.

Mixing isn't about privacy (at least not primarily). It's about fungibility which is an acknowledged monetary property. A bi-product of hi fungiblity is greater anonymity (ability to decouple a unit of currency from its owner history). But that's just the bi-product. The primary reason is to maintain equivalence of value for each unit.

This is one aspect where Dash has got the cash archetype right and coins like Monero have got it wrong IMO. Monero actually went and encrypted the entire transacting platform itself which isn't the same thing as making the currency fungible directly. The transparency of the transacting platform is needed to maximise perceived integrity. ("Math" doesn't cut it because users have no idea whether their particular client is using "math" or not. I doubt bitcoin would have garnered the trust it has without a gazillion forensic trainspotters crawling all over its chain 24 hours a day).

Dash's mixing therefore works for high fungility whether a particular user uses it or not because they benefit from all the mixing of coins upstream of their addresses. The delistings if anything demonstrate that it's worked because the regulators are seeing Dash as "cash".....which is actually a design goal.

What Dash got wrong was allowing the chain to give up half its supply for nothing, thereby torpedoing its value-storing capacity !


Monero got it right and go 100% full privacy, the aim is privacy and doing 50-50 on the design will compromise the goal which is privacy. That's why monero is not trying to be bitcoin, it complements bitcoin.

That's why dash got it wrong, first trying to be anonymous coin and now trying to be ethereum too just to keep the ball rolling.

Actually dash is trying to be bitcoin in the first place, plagiarized bitcoin and coinjoin to market anonymity.

Fungibility, privacy, anonymous...we mean the same thing, not everytime we say anonymous we have to say privacy and fungible too all the time. They all go together.

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678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 03, 2021, 01:17:17 AM

Two words, mixing and unscramble--explains everything.

I can manually mix something and then someone else can unscramble my mixing.
Provide some specific proof that Bitcoin Mixers can be fully traced these days.

Take time to watch the link i gave you...they got caught eventhough they used mixers...the mixings got unscambled btw

That is still one case about a Federal Prosecutor on a specific case with the full power of her office.
Does not mean all Bitcoin Mixer transactions are fully traced every minute / hour / day.

A Federal Prosecutor could most likely do that to a Monero transaction as well these days.

That's 2014...after 7 years they can apply those to exchanges.

Mixed can be unscrambled

Monero = encrypted, you can't unscramble encrypted, you have to decrypt it.(non transparent blockchain)

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Two words, mixing and unscramble--explains everything.

I can manually mix something and then someone else can unscramble my mixing.
Provide some specific proof that Bitcoin Mixers can be fully traced these days.





Take time to watch the link i gave you...they got caught eventhough they used mixers...the mixings got unscambled btw
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"Less likely it can be traced" is anonymous enough for delisting in my eyes.

Since coinjoin can be fully traced, we can say bitcoin is not anonymous.

Case closed. Thank you for you cooperation.  Cheesy

Lets re-open the case.

Bitcoin open blockchain is pseudo-anonymous by default --> fully traced
Bitcoin users chosing Bitcoin Mixers to mix their transactions --> anonymous

 

Nope, they are not anonymous--those bitcoin mixers.

Overruled.

Tell that to all the Bitcoin users still using those mixers.
As long as the Bitcoin mixers don't get compromised, Bitcoin transactions can't be traced very easily. Maybe with a lot of effort by companies specialized in tracing transactions, maybe.
But not by you or me.


Yup. Told them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkORjPHZvE

I am not sure the criminals actually used Bitcoin Mixers there. Looks more like just normal Bitcoin transactions being traced by the Federal Prosecutor, who obviously has a lot
of analyzing tools available to her. Analyzing tools you and i don't have. There is also some talk about early tech or something ? Bitcoin Mixers these days are most likely
far more secure then those early tech Bitcoin Mixers, if those were Bitcoin mixers in the first place.

Stating that Bitcoin Mixed transactions are fully traceable by someone like you or me seems like an overstatement.



Two words, mixing and unscramble--explains everything.

Regulators hovering around exchanges demanding transparency and traceability...it is not about you or me.

Therefore..delist.


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