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661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction on: March 21, 2024, 05:41:31 PM
If things like this continue to happen then we might began to see the need for introducing gambling education to the people, maybe the gambling platforms can start that on a tutorials as well as being taken up by some willing NGOs to see that gamblers are properly oriented about gambling, though i don't think we have this kind of thought to the point of death in gambling no matter the condition, we know some people can go beyond their selves and can't wait to face the consequences to what they have caused, such people can be oriented to understand that gambling should be a means of fun and not a threatening life experience, if we watch or limit.

This is not an event that happened on daily basis and most of the time just an isolated case. There’s no need for a proper education on gambling because it’s not a usual things that people do. Many people that living normally doesn’t involve on gambling while introducing it in the form of education might give them an idea to gamble instead of being innocent about it.

We can’t control every people mind to avoid committing suicide because we can’t watch them 24/7. I think having a support group that is accessible to everyone with discreet feature might reduce an incident like this because people that commit suicide is typically alone and no one support him to unload his problem

Yes I agree with you that indeed some cases due to gambling is not a thing that always happens because it is an activity that is perivasi because the public's perspective on gambling is very negative along with more countries that do not legalize this activity so people prefer to be closed, about providing education to the public about gambling is good especially giving them an understanding that gambling is not a place to earn, but I think this idea has the potential to make people curious about something that is prohibited and maybe those who are too curious will try it.

Each person has a different mindset in responding to a problem and maybe those who choose to commit suicide due to the many defeats in gambling are typical of people who are too easily provoked or sensitive people who are easily emotional where they are really difficult to control themselves when experiencing something that is not in accordance with their expectations. As for what you're suggesting, yes it might be useful to reduce the likelihood of a gambler committing suicide due to gambling, but I don't think it will have much of an effect because as you said, there will be some gamblers who are completely introverted which means they probably wouldn't think of joining a support group or rehabilitation in secret.
662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not place to make money is place to lose it? on: March 21, 2024, 04:46:29 PM
In gambling we can't say that  we can earn a lot of money everyday cause there's a chance that everyone of us here in already knew that gambling is not for making money cause it's will base on our luck. And also those gamblers who want to participate in the game of a casino then we can't say that he will make a profit everyday. But in reality  losses are always everytime we put our bet  so it's better to be vigilant we should never be greedy.

Of course we cannot say or even should not say that gambling is for earning, because the way gambling works is not like that, especially the way winning works, which is nothing more than a "possibility", which means that losing can never be avoided completely no matter how skilled you are. And another reason is that gambling has absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to win at the end of the session, so losing is a very possible thing.

Therefore, the idea of earning in gambling is a ridiculous mindset because gambling is just for fun when you have free time and not for earning, but only for leisure and nothing more than that. The uncertainty in terms of getting a win is a strong reason why we call gambling an activity that refers to luck because only luck can really bring you to the real victory and the name of luck will not always be able to predict when it comes and when it goes, this is what makes all wins always come by chance and there is no consistency to really be able to always get it. The fact is that gambling with the aim of earning will actually drain your money slowly and sometimes without you realizing it.
663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which player are you? on: March 21, 2024, 12:09:53 AM
I hate casino betting cause I feel its too manipulated for anyone to win, I dk t know about other experience but that's how I feel, but I've actually won have greater win to loss ratio from casino betting from the little time I played It.

I prefer sports betting cause I think I have more control over my luck, I know what I'm doing like I know the clubs form and can make informed decisions based on little knowledge so it's cool to me, yeah predictions never go as planned but I prefer this way.

I don't know if most of the types of games in casinos are mostly manipulated or not but what is certain is that I also recognize that winning there is very difficult to get so we call it a game that relies purely on your luck, and what is unfortunate is that more people like this type of gambling, the reason may be that it is easy to play and does not really require any skills other than understanding how the game works and pressing the button to find out the results quickly.

In the end it all comes back to your own choice about which one you prefer and which one can make you win more, and yes as you said you have enough knowledge to get involved in this type of sports betting, and for myself honestly I still choose to stick to the type of luck-based gambling that can be done in a short time without putting any expectations on winning or not forcing myself to pursue something uncertain, and also because on the other hand I don't really know much about the world of sports which ultimately makes me less interested. At the end of the day, wherever you get involved, control along with some boundaries are very important and I hope you can maintain them for your long-term safety.
664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: March 20, 2024, 11:47:17 PM
Rich or poor cannot be used as a benchmark for who should take greater risks in gambling, because each individual has a different financial situation which in turn the perspective on money will also be different, or what I mean is that simply for a poor person $100 is very large but for a rich person it is a small amount and the point is that rich or poor they still have to take risks that they are able to take responsibility for such as putting small amounts of money on gambling.

We must understand that gambling is nothing more than a probability activity that only provides two possibilities, namely winning or losing, and the name of the possibility can never be known about certainty, so it means that no matter how much you put money in gambling with the aim of getting a much bigger win then it will not affect the results at the end of the session, still in the end if you are unlucky then you will lose or vice versa. Therefore, putting a lot of limits is always recommended because of the possible risks that you can never avoid completely and also because of this possible risk we are advised to make gambling a place to have fun without putting any expectations on winning.
665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: March 20, 2024, 11:26:32 PM

How can you "control" someone to prevent him/her from getting addicted to gambling? I mean, many people try that, but in reality they fail mostly when someone is inclined to be addicted. Before someone starts gambling it must be explained to him/her that gambling will not make them rich. Gambling is for entertainment only, and people must know it before depositing their money on a gambling site.
Gambling addiction has really proven to be a global disaster, both rich and poor can't escape the effect of Gambling addiction, it also has the ability to not only affect the victim alone but also those around them, family, friends, colleagues and what have you.
Indeed proper education and awareness about the reality of Gambling could play a very vital role towards preventing or eradicating addiction.
Many people often approach gambling with the knowledge that it's a quick and easy way to multiply their fortune, just one big win would change my life kinda mindset, when in reality, the odds are stacked up against them and this is just how addiction begins.
But if people are aware that gambling should only be for fun, a way to temporarily get aware from your problem and not a way to solve your problem, If this mindset is instilled in them before they start, then they're less likely to fall into the trap of addiction.

That means that someone who comes and gets involved in gambling by having a good level of awareness in him has a great chance for him not to end up as a gambler who misinterprets what gambling actually is, because usually from various cases of addiction that have occurred they come and get involved in gambling that is because they are too tempted by the name of winning opportunities, or that means they come because they hope to get money or multiply the money they bring without looking at various sides before they decide to get involved, namely looking at the risks,

Basically, the object of victory in gambling is money which everyone needs and wants money and this is clearly the reason why most gamblers are too serious in terms of responding to the opportunity to win which they think it is a quick solution to overcome financial problems in their lives, when in fact it is the opposite where gambling with the aim of earning will actually trigger more new problems, especially in terms of finance, so the point is that the opportunity to win in gambling has made most gamblers forget about the possible risks in gambling which in the end it is clear that they have experienced many adverse effects in their lives due to financial ruin because of treating gambling in the wrong way, intention and purpose.
666  Other / Off-topic / Re: The more You gamble for money the more You become sad with Gambling on: March 20, 2024, 11:03:35 PM
To be honest at first I never put any goal to make money in gambling, I got to know gambling from one of my friends who had already gambled and when I saw him he was very enthusiastic when playing on online-based types of bets such as slot machines which have recently become increasingly popular which in the end the situation encouraged me to try it because I wanted to feel the sensation and excitement without thinking and ambition to seek victory, and believe me that the mindset of making gambling a place to earn will be in your mind when you manage to get the first win with a large enough amount.

This is what I experienced and as I said above that I will admit in the end I gambled with the aim of earning but the winning streak only lasted a few days or approximately one week which in the end then I continued to lose sometimes with a considerable amount of loss which in the end made my finances completely destroyed which made it difficult for me to make ends meet because the interest in winning was getting higher and higher along with the inability to accept the fact of defeat which made me gamble with a grudge to restore something that had been lost, But believe me that with time the situation would get worse and that's when I sought a quiet place to meditate and tried to identify all the mistakes and I agreed with myself to quit gambling even though it was very difficult.

After that I had the idea to keep myself busy with many other activities in his daily life and in the end after about 3 - 5 months I managed to eliminate the attraction and thought of gambling which made me really feel a significant difference in myself that is feeling unusual calmness because there is no pressure due to defeat after I managed to get out of the gambling zone with the wrong understanding and goals. Finally I understand that gambling is not a place to earn because however much you lose will always be greater than the win when you gamble excessively due to putting the goal to earn, you will never be able to get out of various bad effects if not yourself by being able to change all the understanding in your mind about gambling, and my tips to addicts who want to quit are try to keep yourself busy with various other things that are more important so that your attention is distracted.
667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamer's fan took his own life due to addiction on: March 20, 2024, 10:34:31 PM
The problem is ... most of those gambling streamers are living a "fake" life, where they gamble with casino money. (Paid streamers)

People think those people are super rich, but only a few of them are acctually wealthy.  Roll Eyes

You have to remember, those streamers are putting up a show to attract people to follow and subscribe to them, because they want more money. (Money & Fame at all cost, no matter what happens)
 
Every streamer will be paid when they are live but they will live a complicated life, as we know in live streaming they are risking a lot of money like there is no price for that kind of money but it is all casino money that cannot be cashed out.

Maybe they are willing to do this because it seems promising by becoming a streamer and many people subscribe under their own referral link, but will the casino pay more I don't think so.

We never know what a streamer's real life is like, but it seems like their life is more difficult if there are few subscribers.

Yes and also when they manage to get the audience that enters through the referral link that they share and I think they only spend time in terms of their work as a casino promotion agent because as you said and I think it is true that the money that we see is very large that they make the capital is actually money from the casino or you can say it is also fake money that cannot be withdrawn and can only be played, but it doesn't matter because their goal is to make the audience tempted by the big wins they managed to get which in the end is what makes people enter through the referral link that is shared.

On the other hand I don't know if there are other funds or other income they get but what I know for sure is that they will get a large enough fee for their agreement with the casino and after that they will also get an additional bonus from the number of gamblers who lose, or simply put they get a few percent share when the gamblers who enter through the referral link they share lose, and yes maybe the problem for them is in terms of subscribers, because that can reach more people to watch the shows that are done.
668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recovering gambling addict stories on: March 20, 2024, 09:18:40 PM
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Yes, from the reasons mentioned above, of course what is recommended is that it is better to gamble for fun or entertainment, but if you want to come to that mindset, you must have a basic and correct understanding of gambling because most gamblers usually gamble with unrealistic intentions and goals, such as to make money, one of which is usually a mindset and goals like this that lead them to many excessive actions which in the end, instead of making money, they suffer even large losses. .

On the other hand, sometimes even though you come with the suggested mindset and goals, that doesn't mean you are free from various bad possibilities such as addiction if you are a fairly active gambler, because in some cases usually during their journey they experience several unexpected things. Unconsciously, it's like experiencing an increase in interest which can change the idea of entertainment into making money, so if you really want to get involved in gambling then I think you have to re-consider it from various angles, especially preparing various formulas which might be able to prevent some changes in yourself. You are as I mentioned above, and maybe one of them is maintaining self-awareness and always being rational when you are running a session.
The key to truly enjoying gambling as entertainment lies in having a fundamental and accurate understanding of how gambling works. Gamblers should be recognizing that the odds are typically stacked against the player in most forms of gambling. Understanding this fundamental principle helps gamblers set realistic expectations and avoid chasing unrealistic goals of financial gain. Basic understanding of the rules and strategies is also equally important. Many games are not only about putting bets to wait for luck.

Gamblers need to make informed decisions, increasing their chances of winning within the context of the game's inherent probabilities. This knowledge also helps in setting reasonable limits on spending and avoiding impulsive or excessive actions that could lead to significant losses. Having a mindset focused on enjoying the entertainment value of gambling while maintaining a clear understanding of its inherent risks can mitigate the potential negative consequences associated with unrealistic intentions and goals.

Yes as I said earlier above that understanding is the basic key for anyone to stay in the safe zone that you will only gamble with the intention and purpose of seeking entertainment when you are having a boring free time, you will not experience excessive interest in gambling because you understand that gambling is always about risky activities which means that it can lead you to bad possibilities at any time that sometimes without you realizing it. After all, gambling is a business for casinos which means that casinos build this activity to benefit themselves or simply they hide behind the idea of "odds" in gambling and when you take the odds too seriously then you will usually become a victim of the casino as experienced by addicts.

Making the right decision should always be based on the right understanding and also a qualified level of awareness because only this can make you always look at things rationally which in turn makes you able to make the right decision in every situation, and something that is based on awareness and a rational point of view usually tends to lead to more actions for prevention, and the point is that the right understanding along with a qualified awareness will be able to minimize all unwanted possibilities.
669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not place to make money is place to lose it? on: March 20, 2024, 07:57:54 PM
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Again as I said above the hope of winning is enough to keep the people motivated about this business and they will keep trying their luck regardless of the fact that it is a risky business too. Since the majority of the people just randomly bet and gamble, they lose and people claim that they lose only. However, if you are clever enough enough with risk management, you can easily make money through gambling instead of only losing it.
Don't assume this will go easily, earning profits is not easy enough at gambling.
Maybe you will win in the end, but the profit from accumulated gambling must be noted, losing 5x and winning 2x but still will not return the same value, unless you get a big win in 1x win.

Do not gamble and bet randomly if you want to make a profit, everything must be calculated well and yes risk management also needs to be done so as not to get caught in a bad situation.

This is a very wrong assumption and mindset where people think that gambling can be used as a place to earn or a place to overcome the problems they are experiencing such as paying debts or other things, and as you said that getting a win in gambling is not as easy as turning a palm, I understand that you or anyone can get a win but what we have to remember is that all wins in gambling will only happen by chance or suddenly and anyone will never know about what makes them succeed in getting a win.

Another reason why gambling is not recommended to be used as a place to earn is because there is no element of consistency which means that maybe now you win but it is also possible that tomorrow you lose and maybe even the defeat is far greater than the victory you get, and as you said above that if calculated then still the results of defeat are more than victory. The point is my advice is to never put your hopes on winning, if you really want to get involved in gambling then as much as possible you should limit your expectations and hopes for victory and it is better to gamble with the aim of filling boring leisure time, because if you are lucky then the victory will also come by itself and it is better to just focus on risk management to minimize all bad possibilities.
670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: March 20, 2024, 07:18:50 PM
I will not going identify this who should take more risk rich gambler or poor gambler. And I think that it shouldn't be. Gambling is for fun it's is not a income source. People who ever do gambling they should have the fund as the afford to lose. In this case if a poor person haven't money enough for living a normal life then he shouldn't be inter on gambling. And obviously it should be for all kinds of people.
Indeed, it would be better for us to gamble just for fun and not to make the bets we play as a source of income and every bet we place carries the risk of losing the bet we play and also we must understand well the level of risk involved. Let's face it, don't force yourself to bet so much that you spend a lot of money on the bets we play, of course it would be better for those who have little income not to gamble because if they still force themselves to gamble, of course they will have difficulty making ends meet. and indeed it is better for us to bet according to what we can afford to lose.

That's right, because gambling with the aim of having fun is much more recommended and indeed gambling is only for that and not to generate or change the fate of becoming rich instantly, what we have to understand is that gambling only gives us all opportunities, which means no more than just a possibility and of course I think you understand the meaning which is the reason why wins always happen occasionally and by chance, there is absolutely no certainty whatsoever that can guarantee you will always win.

Winning always depends on how lucky you are during the session while the possibility of defeat always lurks around you whenever and wherever you gamble and this makes most gamblers experience losing large amounts of money instead of earning what they expected. On the other hand, yes, it's true as you said, don't force yourself to gamble because it's too dangerous and will actually lead you to worse possibilities, and the simple thing is that you can gamble when you have money that you won't be able to use for your needs. other things or that you are able to take responsibility for whatever the results are at the end of the session, especially losses and it is clear that if you have an income that is below average then it is better not to be involved in gambling at all, because obviously even if you are responsible it will still be detrimental to your money to allocate your more important needs.
671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail? on: March 20, 2024, 06:58:20 PM
It's still a bill so it's not yet a law. I have got a lot of friends that are gamblers and they always share their betting slip, wins and losses in their facebook accounts. Once this passes onto law then it will surely going to stop them from sharing the same content materials that have been done. A lot of them are agents of these casinos and that's why it will affect their hustle if it happens to become a law. But as of now, there's nothing to worry about it if it's not yet a whole law and not yet signed by the president.

Yeah, that's usually how people actually make money with gambling, through ads or social media, etc.

To make money actually gambling is a different story, and it's actually quite difficult. But it's fun, so many people do it as entertainment.

Yes that is the way I think it makes more sense to make money in gambling but not by gambling but by becoming a promotional agent of an online casino situation on an agreement where you make money from the number of people who enter the casino that you promote and you will get paid according to the agreement with the casino and also as a bonus usually you can also get a percentage of the fee from each losing gambler, and if I'm not mistaken you will get 30% and the casino gets 70% when the gamblers you invite to engage in the promoted casino lose.

True, the income from pure gambling winnings such as getting a jackpot is of course different from the income if you become an influncer or stremer where the income of a stremer or promotional agent is that they get money from the agreement with the casino along with bonuses when the gamblers they invite lose, and I think this income has a fairly consistent element when you want to continue to cooperate with the casino you want to promote but still for the problem of risk is always there which is where the government usually does not legalize gambling promotion especially if you are in a country that is anti-gambling, and income from pure gambling winnings is another thing.

672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A call to self-examining our gambling habit. on: March 19, 2024, 10:23:21 PM
There is nothing like self examination when there is no rule that is put in place to check the activities of the gambler,  in this way while you keep check of your gambling,  you are at the same time following a new patten that will place you in a better position in your future gambling.

Those rules will help a gambler to have a lay down principle in form of a blue print to follow through with,  which is very important for every active gambler if you ever want to gamble safely.

I don't agree with you. It is possible to examine yourself even without having an established gambling rule on the ground. When you are self-conscious you will know when there is a problem in your gambling and vice versa. Being self-conscious when gambling is a good way for a gambler to monitor and regulate his gambling behavior.
When a gambler is self-conscious, he can identify signs of problematic gambling behavior.

I think a gambler should pay attention to his thoughts and feelings while he is gambling. If a gambler notices that he is becoming anxious or upset, it is good he take a break from gambling and engage in a calming activity instead. This can prevent a gambler from making impulsive or irrational decisions.

It's always about self-awareness or maintaining a level of self-awareness and it's true that this is best, I often say and suggest this to others including some of my friends who also gamble and I always suggest that it is advice that should not be ignored to emphasize and maintain self-awareness when you are involved in gambling especially when you are running sessions, not least because this is a fairly effective way of preventing yourself from some unwanted possibilities.

On the other hand I understand that there are no rules set in gambling activities to check gambling activities, but it is actually very simple which as you said that the key is "awareness" or maintaining self-awareness because this will be very useful to identify some things that can trigger or plunge you into wrong gambling actions, the point is that awareness can be your savior in any case if you can be firm to continue to maintain it.
673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recovering gambling addict stories on: March 19, 2024, 09:27:47 PM
There are really different reasons why some gamblers do it; there are some who just gamble because they are going through emotional problems, others are stressed or depressed, and mine is because they need money fast. because it is an emergency and leads to the risk of hitting the jackpot.

And there are others who rely on suddenly winning big in gambling so they can get out of the poverty they are facing in life, and others are a source of income and usually just for fun.

Almost everything you mentioned can be considered more excuses than convincing reasons, because the first and most important reason is supposed to be gambling for fun. At the same time, these excuses are actually what push users to engage in gambling by the thousands. Their pleasure in winning may be more than the pleasure of gambling above all else, and that is why they find excuses to justify it.

Gambling should not become a favorite hobby, lest it turn into a curse. All addicts begin their illness journey as part of an unnecessary entertainment activity. But with time it becomes a pathological habit.

Yes, from the reasons mentioned above, of course what is recommended is that it is better to gamble for fun or entertainment, but if you want to come to that mindset, you must have a basic and correct understanding of gambling because most gamblers usually gamble with unrealistic intentions and goals, such as to make money, one of which is usually a mindset and goals like this that lead them to many excessive actions which in the end, instead of making money, they suffer even large losses. .

On the other hand, sometimes even though you come with the suggested mindset and goals, that doesn't mean you are free from various bad possibilities such as addiction if you are a fairly active gambler, because in some cases usually during their journey they experience several unexpected things. Unconsciously, it's like experiencing an increase in interest which can change the idea of entertainment into making money, so if you really want to get involved in gambling then I think you have to re-consider it from various angles, especially preparing various formulas which might be able to prevent some changes in yourself. You are as I mentioned above, and maybe one of them is maintaining self-awareness and always being rational when you are running a session.
674  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving don't make wealth on: March 19, 2024, 08:52:39 PM
Think of an emergency fund as your investment insurance policy; it protects you in times of crisis. Life throws curveballs: accidents, medical problems, etc. Entering the investment pool without protection? This is reckless and foolish

Investing isn't about flinging money at the wind and hoping it pays off. This is a calculated, strategic move. Saving and investing sound like a one-two punch.  Knowledge protects you from financial disaster, not simply power

You're right about not mindlessly investing. You'll get knocked out if you fight a heavyweight champion without training. Play is about learning, understanding, and tactically moving. Profits await those who invest with ambition, planning, and a large emergency fund

It is very important to have an emergency fund in life because what you said is true, of course our life is full of challenges and full of unexpected things like accidents or something like that. By having an emergency fund, if unexpected things do happen, the emergency fund you have can help us to overcome them to some extent. This can also help with investment if we do invest. This needs to be paid attention to if we really want to make an investment, so that the investment is not disrupted by unexpected things happening, it is very important that we have an emergency fund.

In my opinion, saving and investing are things that need each other, as I said above, the use of having an emergency fund or having savings is to deal with things that happen unexpectedly. investing that can generate profits is indeed a long-term investment, it's just that everyone has different thoughts so it's not possible for everyone to be able to gamble, because to do this in my opinion you have to have a lot of money and to be able to have a lot of money we You have to be able to save, because it is impossible to just rely on the money you have.
675  Economy / Economics / Re: Everything is over priced but people keep spending on: March 19, 2024, 08:28:06 PM
Staples will still be a necessity no matter how high the price is, they will buy even though the monthly salary does not have the same increase, sometimes some people can complain and some people let it go because of course complaining will not change anything except increasing income.

At least we save on eating at home with our family instead of eating at restaurants that will cost us a lot of money, right?

It's possible that the word inflation rate is high then the goods will be high as well as the fiat value will be lower this is what I feel now, once a few dollars were enough for basic needs but now it's not enough and have to spend a lot of money.

That's right, the price of basic commodities is of course possible that over time the price will rise and there must be a cause behind that, what you said is correct, even though basic commodities are rising, we like it or not have to be able to accept it because it is a basic need for all of us. Even if we complain, it can't change the situation and maybe if there are many people who can't accept this, there might be conflicts such as demonstrations or other things. but what is clear in my opinion is that it is a natural provision, so we cannot move much, we have to be able to accept it, as you said, we must have more income than usual, and even though there are still many people who are poor, if that is the case then they you have to be able to accept it.

That makes sense, and eating at home while gathering with family is not bad, because in my opinion the relationship will remain good Rather than forcing ourselves to have a luxurious style but it ends up strangling our own necks it's better to just do something simple, besides, in my opinion, there are also people who force themselves to be stylish but they don't pay attention to the situation so it becomes their own problem.
676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not place to make money is place to lose it? on: March 19, 2024, 07:57:55 PM
Actually, for those who are lucky and have experienced victory, maybe it can be said to be a place that makes money, but you need to remember that someone's luck will not come all the time, so understand the concept of luck too, sometimes luck comes once a month or even more depending on the gambling game being played. played too, but it's true that gambling is not a place to make money. In fact, gambling was created for entertainment for rich people, but most poor people try their luck there and always lose and become the biggest gambling addicts.

It's rare to find rich people who are gambling addicts because they gamble just to have fun using the money they are ready to lose and not to make money, but some people always gamble to make money and get rich instantly, even though there are no people in the world who do. rich because of gambling, although there are those who are rich because of gambling, there are definitely not many, you can count them on your hands per year, so it's not surprising if I say that gambling is not a place to make money but a place to have fun and precisely to lose money, but you need to remember to gamble we must have a special budget so as not to lose more when gambling.

Even though there is a chance of winning at gambling, of course it will not be achieved easily and often or consistently, because winning at gambling is based on luck and as you said, the concept of luck does not come all the time, of course luck is only just once in a while, it's impossible for every gamble we make to win, after all the existing gambling is made by companies whose aim is to make a profit from the large number of people who gamble. Maybe you are right that gambling is only entertainment for rich people who have a lot of money, but there are also many poor people who try their luck at gambling which ends up becoming a problem for themselves.

Rich people are rarely addicted, in my opinion, because they gamble correctly, are ready to lose the money they bet and because they have a lot of money, I think when the gambling they do ends in defeat, they are not surprised because they already know the end. what will happen is defeat and also they still have enough spare money so they don't mind the losses that occur in the gambling they do, but that's how it should be, we have to be able to accept defeat well so that we can't accept defeat. which is bound to happen because if it's not like that then what will likely happen is a gambling addiction which can be detrimental to oneself in the long term.
677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is best for a player to draw the line? on: March 19, 2024, 07:32:35 PM
Some other gamblers stop playing when the win they first few games, while other continue to chase the loses, and technically ww can tell in accuracy when this things happens, but when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?

1-when you lose?
2- when you win?
In overall, the best time to stop gambling is before you lose. It can also mean to not start gambling but I don't mean that. I think that everyone has to gamble for fun and shouldn't build any financial plans around gambling, e.g. one shouldn't risk betting 500$ from his salary with the hope of winning $1000 to buy an iPhone tomorrow, that's a huge risk and that's the moment when you may lose and go into gambling problems. My advice is to gamble for fun, don't build financial plans on gambling and if you are lucky, fortune will reward you with a jackpot.

Quitting before you lose means you don't gamble at all or it means you withdraw all the money you've deposited before you hit the button to start and this is a premature but good way of withdrawing because not losing anything is much better than losing money especially if you put an amount you can't afford to lose. But yes I think that is a very rare scenario, because most people prefer to quit when they run out of money like gambling addicts who always end up with regret and disappointment.

On the other hand yes it is true that it is not recommended for anyone, especially people who are or have been involved in gambling to set a budget allocation plan for gambling, because this leads to actions that will eventually become a habit, and something that has become a habit can trigger addiction where you will find it difficult to ignore the slightest time not to gamble which in the end there will be an element of "forcing" to gamble even though you don't have money, and obviously situations like this can trigger many out of control actions such as justifying all means to get money to finance gambling activities. So don't even think about setting a plan for the gambling budget, it is better to gamble when you have free time and a budget that is ready to be lost, everything will still be fine when you don't put excessive interest, seriousness and goals on gambling and with that you will be able to avoid some bad possibilities such as losing large amounts of money.

Having a perspective of gambling for fun is much better and this does not mean that you will not be able to win because gambling is a probability activity that refers to luck which means that if you are lucky then you can also get a win.
678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: March 19, 2024, 07:11:03 PM
The risk of losing money is high in gambling. The rich can afford to lose money as they won't get poor by gambling in just one day. The poor can get poorer and eventually try illegal activities to gamble again. I don't think gambling is good for someone who has less money to survive in this world.

According to OP's theory both rich and poor are the same and they both can become poor through gambling. Whereas in the real world, a rich would have multiple earning sources and he would gamble for entertainment. A poor would have a single earning source and he would gamble to become rich. They both are different socially and there is no comparison between them.

At the point where the rich and the poor are the same, being rich is probably at the level of being rich; the rich will get richer, then the poor, who suddenly won gambling, will become rich.
So, they still have different levels of how they became rich. It's just the same instrument with which gambling has become a tool for them to make a lot of money.

But the one who gambles the most is the rich, not the poor gambler, but the poor gambler who bets on gambling is more economical, unless the poor gambler bets heavily.

Honestly, I don't know which way you are going with this idea, but what I can understand is that you are inferring that anyone whether they are rich or poor can get large sums of money to change the finances in their lives for the better as the poor can become rich in an instant when they manage to get a win or jackpot while on the other hand it is a fact that gambling is not a place or an alternative to making money. I understand that anyone can get a win that may even be very large in gambling but what you have to understand is that there is absolutely no element of consistency in terms of generating winnings which means that it will only happen occasionally and by chance and obviously something that does not have an element of consistency in terms of generating it cannot be used as a place to earn because there is no guarantee and certainty for you to continue to earn.

It is a fact that the results of gambling are temporary because in most cases some people who manage to win big they experience excessive attraction or that means big wins make them have high expectations which in the end it is difficult to really keep the money and even more aggressive in treating gambling which in the end defeat solves everything, or that means gambling again drains all the money.

On the other hand, in my opinion, those who are more or more often involved in gambling are poor people because they usually carry the aim of earning based on the idea that they think gambling can change their financial situation for the better, while rich people mostly use gambling as a place of entertainment when they have boring empty time, one of the reasons is because rich people are already in a good financial situation because they already have the right way to make money so that they can become rich people.
679  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: March 19, 2024, 06:26:52 PM

Bad habits like gambling must be kept secret in order to protect the social reputation. In the case of jobs, the matter is different because serious addictions like gambling must be hidden in the job sector or the department must be held accountable for gambling. Moreover, if an employee who is addicted to gambling becomes open to everyone about his gambling habits, his self-esteem will definitely be damaged in front of his colleagues.
On the other hand, the privacy of gambling must be maintained in the family, especially the family members who are addicted to gambling are socially looked down upon and distanced from them in various social culture and events.
If the environment where we live views gambling habits as a bad thing, of course we have to keep our gambling habits a secret, because if they find out about these habits, of course this will have a bad impact on us and they will also see us as people who should be avoided because our gambling habits and if they have an open habit about the gambling they do of course they must first see whether their environment views gambling as normal or not and if the environment does not like gambling of course they must be able to keep their gambling habits a secret.

Yes of course we have to be able to adjust to the situation and the environment we are in, I think the negative view of gambling does not only occur in one or a few places but this is overall which means that most people's view of gambling is negative which in turn makes them doubt or distrust people who are involved in gambling, no matter if you for example are one of the responsible gamblers but still sometimes people will stick to their own conclusions even though you have explained and tried to convince them that you are still fine even though you are involved in gambling.

On the other hand, it may be true that most people in your environment will avoid you or even cut off socialization with you because they are afraid of being adversely affected so they decide to limit socialization with you, and this can certainly make it difficult for you in some ways such as for example people around you are reluctant to help you when you are in an urgent situation such as needing fast funds to overcome the problems you are facing. So of course I agree with the idea that you are better off keeping your gambling habits a secret from society, regardless of whether you are a responsible gambler, and I also think it's a good precaution to take even if you don't know whether your neighborhood has a good or bad view of gambling.
680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How does the game of luck in gambling really works? on: March 19, 2024, 06:06:53 PM

maybe yes or maybe not. I don't know, I don't really believe in that kind of thing either, but I see that every gambler still has their own luck. If there is an impact of luck from people around you, maybe that is another thing that makes gamblers share in the luck.
gambling is still a game of winning and losing. We can win or vice versa, we can lose when we don't have luck on our side.
Sometimes the idea that the presence of other people can actually affect or have an impact on our own luck is something we should really look at, because majority of gamblers have unanimously embraced and accepted this as a fact. It's true that humans are social creatures and people around us has the ability to influence our experiences as well as our emotions at some point. But how possible is it that in gambling the energy or presence of others can actually affect our own decisions and gambling performances as much as it can affect our social lives?

Gambling is an activity that refers to luck which when you are in a lucky enough situation then you will win and this makes me hesitant to agree with the idea that the presence of other people can affect the results of the gambling we do, I say "results" because indeed for the problem of how to gamble it is clear that the presence of other people can affect the decisions we will make, which is like a scenario for example you are gambling and you already have your own decision and then at that time your friend makes a suggestion that they think is good to do which in the end you follow it, but for the problem of the results as I said above that it depends on whether you are in a lucky situation or not.

The reason is because gambling is always random and there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to win even if you use some methods that you or others think are quite accurate, this is what makes sometimes you win using these methods and sometimes you also lose, so still in my opinion there is absolutely no effective method and also the presence of other people will not always have an effect, it all comes back to how lucky you are at the time of running the session.
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