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Please dont take me as being rude, but i am an artist not a mind reader. I have no idea what you heard so i can neither confirm nor deny it. Deleted FOR ME IMMEDIATELY AND SEND ME A PM. I will pay $1000 in BTC if you do it within the next 10 Minutes. A pleasure doing business with you, but i probably would have done it for free if you just asked. Sorry if i spilled the beans. Please do keep me on the list of people to be notified when you release it as if the price is right i am very interested in it. I even have 3.16 BTC saved up for it now  . I'd leave you a trust rating for actually holding true to your word and paying me, but i dont think trust rep from me would help you any after the trolls got ahold of me a few months ago and destroyed my trust rating. So i guess a simple thank you for being a man of your word will have to do. Interesting  What was that all about? Nothing to worry about Pistachio, has nothing to do with the coins you or anyone else purchased...... Yet Somehow i think my PM's got hacked and someone found out about a secret a month or two before it is suppose to be known. You are very much involved in the surprise, but not right now. Thats all i can really say. Sorry! You'll thank me later. WOW. |
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Bribing people to delete posts, how low can we get?  Super low: IMPORTANT:
I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
If TerraHasher is not a sock, shame on them. |
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IMPORTANT:
I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
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Of course I can, you fucking moron. I just won't. Get out, adults are talking.
Ok, in which case i declare NUBBINS to be a SCAMMER and in the next day or two will open up a scammers thread on the forums as I believe you are lying. When you get that thread set up, please share it in my reputation thread so nobody misses it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0 |
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I think everyone agrees the designs look nice etched in the wood but that is totally beside the point, which is that he is misrepresenting his work.
THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THISEven Paul Revere said his lasering was cool, in between chewing him out  |
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Yes you're right, art has no clear value. However, whether this piece being hand carved or lasered it pretty clear cut. Like the gold analogy, this wood was marketed and priced as a hand carved piece (real), but turned out to be lasered (fake).
And it's debatable to even call it HIS work. The artwork seen in here are not even original, but rather just taken from various sources. This is even a potential for copyright infringement if he stole from the wrong source.
If he bought that eagle image from Shutterstock, I'll eat my hat. As if that's the one thing he'd have moral scruples about. It is 100%, guaranteed, undeniable copyright infringement, and he likely charged hundreds of dollars for that piece. Shutterstock's lawyers will chew him a new asshole if he can't provide a receipt. If I were him, I'd delete my account and pray that none of my customers calls the cops on me. |
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"Expects us to believe that Woodcolleter is a fraud after WC paid me $1,000 usd worth of bitcoin to protect his clients because he is such an honorable business person."
Technically, TerraHasher admits to have accepted a bribe by WoodCollector for a negative rating against nubbins, or how would you read that? If so, I would consider TerraHasher part of WoodCollector's scam scheme, resulting in a definite negative trust for TerraHasher. I just can wrap my head around this anymore. I'm not sure on the exact details, but I believe WC paid TH a thousand dollars to remove some sort of post about his products from the forum. Seems like a lot of money to be throwing around for a forum post, but I guess if you've scammed people out of $20k+, $1k isn't a big deal to keep the secret. |
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but does all it take is creating a digital file to then sit infront of a laser to etch everything for you or is there more to it than that?
Yes, that is precisely all that is required. You hit Print, the laser etches the design. Booths at the mall will do it for you while you wait for about $20. Afterward, you can clean up the design by hand (which WC didn't -- see Paul Revere's post about the visible laser etch lines), and put some stain or lacquer on it. He really did put the absolute minimum amount of effort in. |
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If this is not done by a laser what causes the burn marks and the lines? Probably the burn marks come from using his enormous lathe chisels so quickly. |
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The last one you found was at the request of the buyer... Maybe this is the same case because most of the pieces are commissioned ones... And do you really think art thievery is the lowest one can get? I mean, seriously?
Oh, okay, so he stole artwork and reproduced it without permission at the request of the buyer. So much better. Yes, for someone who claims to be an artist, I really do think art thievery is the lowest you can get. Just like how dropping food on the floor and serving it anyway is the lowest a chef can get. I deleted that comment, I'm sorry... I just got a little angry.
Apology accepted. I'd like to invite you to re-read my original scam accusation, and open yourself to the possibility that there's truth in what I'm saying. Try to remove your emotions from the situation and look at the evidence. Is it fair to call my accusation "nonsense"? I can see the truth in your accusation and how it isn't just nonsense... But it's the fact that I don't want to believe it that puts me off. |
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I would not say that being a "child" is a reason to label them as a scammer. He has his right to make any claims that he wishes. If his claims are invalid then they will be ignored.
I do think he does have a point as paul revere's claims played no small part in the bashing of woodcollector.
If the OP gave you a "bad" rating then no one will take it seriously. The OP is not on the default trust list so his claim is not going to affect you. Your claim/rating is going to be visible to everyone who looks at his profile by default. What you are doing by leaving him negative trust is to silence your critics
I did not label OP a scammer, I labeled him a shill. The scammer scams, the shill flaps his jaw. His claims *are* invalid, and they are being mercilessly mocked instead of ignored. I know nobody will take OP seriously, but my negative rating will hopefully serve as a warning to other shills. |
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OP's rating of me:
"Expects us to believe that Woodcolleter is a fraud after WC paid me $1,000 usd worth of bitcoin to protect his clients because he is such an honorable business person."
Yes, I expect people to believe WC is a fraud, EVEN THOUGH he paid you a thousand dollars to delete a post on this forum.
You realize that thousand dollars you accepted was taken under false pretenses from one of his victims, yes?
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The OP doesn't have a point, he's lashing out in what be believes is a similar manner to what I did right here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.0The OP is being a vindictive child and is to be treated (and rated) as such. This is to serve as a warning to others, as well as a reminder of his own inadequacy. |
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Please note the impossibly large size of those "chisels" (actually lathe chisels for his shitty lathe: http://www.amazon.com/Pc-Wood-Lathe-Chisel-Set/dp/B000FVEF6O). It is simply not possible that he could be carving the pieces with those tools. Look at how big they are! EDIT: OP updated with the latest so people don't have to scroll through 11 pages. |
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It hasn't been locked yet so thought I'd jump in.
WoodCollector, your pieces look great but please can you honestly state whether or not you are using a laser engraver.
If not, please ask requested, upload a time lapse/video of you hand carving the pieces as you claim.
Unfortunately, it doesnt look too good for you with the current evidence being stacked up against you.
Is this hand carved?
Honestly, no offense it looks like it was laser engraved. I've lasered wood and it looks very similar in nature.
Nice work!!
Hand carved with chisels and worked with a dremmel tool and sandpaper.  No offense taken. I've seen lasered wood before and it just looks dull to me. It only has 1 real dimension and that's depth. I was looking into getting a laser to speed up the stenciling process but after a day of searching found that any good ones run $20,000 up to $80,000 which is a lot more than i want to spend to save 5 minutes of work of transferring an outline from paper to wood. |
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This thread is LOCKED until WoodCollector sends me a PM with a link to his video.
This thread remains UNLOCKED so the lels can continue.
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Haploid, you'll find that there are two sides here:
1) Rational adults who realized on their own that WC is full of shit
2) Rubes and shills who pretend WC is correct
There's no point arguing anymore. All the adults agree that it was a bait-and-switch, which is 100%, no doubt, a type of scam. Anyone arguing otherwise is either a shill, a moron, a sock, or too young and naive to understand that this forum is overflowing with piece of shit scammers just like WC, trying to pass off shit as diamonds.
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This is getting out of hand. Nubbins why don't you change the title of your thread to something like "WoodCutter seems to use lasers for some of his finishing work". This is in fact the only issue. Of course he is going to be upset he has many happy customers and delivers the goods and you are calling him a scammer. Time out guys it seems pretty clear cut to me Because I don't care to. Please scroll up and read the topic of this thread. WC responded to my legitimate, 100% correct concerns with a hate thread to try to intimidate me into silence. Fuck him and his scam. |
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