Yes, they will continue to hold a strong position in 2018, in my view. Why? Because as long as bitcoin still face the scalability problem, investors will go look for other coins such as Ethereum and Ripple or Litecoin that has a quick transaction confirmation and the cost of each transaction is very cheap.


2017 is a good year to us. But 2018 will be more exciting as more and more people will be going to the crypto. You just have to look at how the trading platforms are performing lately. Most of them are laggy and slow, means that their customer based is growing bigger everyday. Altcoin though will take some attention from bitcoin.

I have a feeling that a lot of people who are not going to happy hearing this kind of things. If I can remember, there's a similar thread years ago in Politics and Society about microchip implants on your body, and I think its a overwhelming NO response as well.

And there's probably much easier for hackers or criminals to take advantage and stole all of your money. Heck you can even lose your hands here. And can be software/OS or even Hardware physically safe inside your body?

I'm totally against, but I'm not closing my doors. We are moving to a new intelligence now. There might be a time in the future that everyone would be required by all government to wear it. But I hope that I'm not gonna see that day.

Exactly, the golden rule: "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" is really applicable to cryptocurrencies. Because its very risky and you don't know what the future holds. As for me, I have stocks as well and not only bitcoin but several altcoins in my portfolio. At least I have a contingency plans in any case something went awry in my crypto investment.

Don't be the guy that will become the laughing stock of everyone. Used your common sense. And remember that its your entire Life Savings., which means all your hard earn money. There are a lot of painful story that we hear, and don't be another statistics on that category.

Only invest what you can afford and then spread it out of different portfolios. Generally you need to have investments in at least 3 -4 alts coins and then others on trading or mutual funds or real state if you want.

Depends on the ICO itself, sometimes they have limited token supply and I think their target soft and hard cap has something to do with the price as well. But I think there's still ICO that offers less than a dollar per pop and hope that they can take off once a working product is presented.

That's why investing in ICO right now is like a gamble, you will never know if they are a scam until you really found out at the end that they have already run off with your money.

If you think that some ICO are getting expensive then simply don't put your hard money on it.

The way I understand it, coinmarketcap has removed South Korean market is its trading prices that's why the price took a dive because we all know that the South Korean platforms is trading not only Ripple but bitcoin in a premium. And so other argues that the total marketcap is still way more higher at around $10B.

But as far as the price of Ripple is concern, I'm have skepticism when it burst into the market and became the 2nd most traded crypto after bitcoin. The argument that is premined and decentralized really cast my doubts on this coins. Are they sustainable in long term? However, it looks like there's some serious dumping in the last couple of days. And my speculation is that it can go down below $1, in my perspective.


Correction is inevitable, we all know that, but the question remains its sustainability. Once it corrected itself, can it still rises as it previous price or even go further? Bitcoin proves it can do it numerous times. But can Ripple do it? Remains to be seen.

Nice mate, thanks for sharing that your account is still intact. Damn, I still have a lot of funds from my MEW but I'm afraid to check it now or enter the my private key but when I can using etherscan.io my funds is still there.


Thanks for the share. Maybe I will download it later and see how it goes.


I'm not sure. But to me its look like a FUD so that Ethereum will dip because its been surging ahead in the last month or so. There is similar to Bitcoin Cash vs Bitcoin rivalry. Other side is creating FUD so that investors can be swayed on their side. Sadly it didn't work though.


If you don't bookmark MEW and just type it, more likely you will ended up in another MEW phishing site. I heard EtherDelta is a little bit laggy lately, but I'm not sure if this is due to something or just error problem on their end.

Never tried it mate, but it looks like its favorable on your part and its seems its a good strategy. But I don't know, I'm a little skeptics so I'm not sure if I have the nerves to go that route as well. Maybe if I would just think of it like buying things with my credit card and pay the debt later, I might deal with it.


This is my thoughts as well, If I'm going to invest, not just in bitcoin, its better if the money came from your own wallet and not from banks for something. Again, I'm a risk taker as well, but if I can saved enough and later put it in bitcoin as investment that would be a perfect definition of investments. But I can't blame everyone who is borrowing its the risk that they are willing to take.

Every other exchanges that are know today have started from trading small and look at where they are right now. I'm haven't done any trading on the a mentioned platform though, so I can't say if they are scam or not. My point being, they maybe small that why it arouses suspicions but let us give them sometime. Because if there are really a scam site they can easily be flag by a lot of traders who is member of our community.

See, not anyone knows topbtc and unless someone really experience to trade with that site and claims that it's really a scam or trusted site, we can really know for sure. Yes, its really hard to trust new exchanges, but if the intention is to really create another opportunity to trade and earn, why not?

The Wild West atmosphere has been existing ever since, but its more evident today as compare to the previous years. Everyone is really in it for the money and you will see irrational behaviors not just in selling but also buying as well, never would imagine people buying at the top price of bitcoin or any other altcoins.

And there's the FUD mongers here that affected the emotions of a lot of members specially newcomers in the market. But then again, it trading if you can't check your emotions out of the window, then I'm sure that you will ended up in a negatives because you need to be calm and be patience and not rush pushing that sell button immediately.

You have to understand where they are coming from. Never would have they thought that their customers based would literally goes to thousands in short amount of time specially when bitcoin is going up. That's why we have this kind of lagging that makes us so frustrated and it a matter of minutes, instead of making tons of money, we ended up losing.

But its no excuse though from their end, they are business and just like any other businesses, they should make their customers happy. They need to upgrade everything from server infrastructure to support because if not for us I'm sure that they won't be making tons of money today because of the crypto world is booming.

As much as we really wanted to see bitcoin hitting $20K, there's no way for certain when we are going to touch it. Remember almost everyone predicts that $20K was going to be surpass at the end of 2017. Because bitcoin has made a dramatic rally and even getting above $19K, however, we experience a sudden slump, and dip as low as $12K-$13K.

But knowing bitcoin, it has the ability to recover and in the last couple of days we see it surpassing $17K and thought that we are going near the elusive $20K again. Sadly, it dip a little, maybe a correction or sort and consolidating and move forward again and try to test $18K-$$20K.

Pretty sure though that sooner or later we are going to touch it. I have a feeling that it can surpass it this quarter or even goes further the $20K mark.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/up-to-four-million-bitcoins-gone-forever

It says up to 4 million. So that guy who lost his 103 is another statistics. Really just sad though to see someone lost a lot of money because they either don't believed that bitcoin will skyrocketed or they are just plain stupid and not backing up everything and literally throw their money away.

Can you share more about the story though? Is this a new story or an old one because we have seen a lot of people losing their bitcoins. If will be really good if you can give us a link or something.

Let's see Ripple price was just .20-.30 cent when suddenly it surges ahead last year and been going up eversince. Its now worth more than $100B capitalization now. So I don't think we can't call them dying.

Another is Ethereum, also sitting on more than $100B capitalization and surpassing 4 digits mark and trading above $1000 today. Again, the future really looks bright and their a lot of leg room for this to grow this year.

Almost all altcoins are really moving very fast now so instead of seeing them as dying, instead majority of them are growing again which may push the total marketcap to $1T very soon. And remember that many investors are also enterin the picture and buying alts instead of bitcoin, specially in Asia like Japan and South Korea. So the opposite has actually happening now, they are booming and will continue to grow this 2018.

Your questions is not clear dude, but If I understand it correctly, you did buy a coin, lets say coin A and then the the coin suddenly drop, losing your investment. Then it not should be considered as trading because you didn't trade it, meaning buy or sell it at certain point. So its more likely that its a investment, if I'm not mistaken.


That questions is not really clear, but we have to understand where the OP is coming from. It looks like he is new to trading or investing, and he still don't grasp the concept of diversifying his portfolio. But most of us did go to this experienced and I hope that he learns from this mistakes and next time we will try to buy other coins so he has some plan B. But yes, diversification is best suited in crypto as well. There are a lot of coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum and other altcoins that he can put is money with.

I'm sorry to hear that Bangladesh decided against bitcoin. Just read it somewhere that the Central Bank of Bangladesh issued a circular banning bitcoin. Take note that the main reason is that:


I'm sure that there are penalties if you are caught doing bitcoin transactions in any form. China used OTC, so there's a chance that you can still engage though, but it must be underground to say the least. It's really pity to see that a lot of governments are really against bitcoin. They need to understand that bitcoin is design to be used as micro payments and not to be used by criminals.

Also, Bangladesh people can take advantage of bitcoin because I'm sure that it has given its citizens a decent money as a sidelined. Too bad they the government is also looking at the negative side of using bitcoin.

What do you mean that people panic? Do you mean the Ripple investors are now dumping their coins an shifting back to Bitcoin? LOL. That will be really funny because they have been talking about Ripple taking bitcoin throne as the #1 crypto currency. Funny if they are now dumping because its down by more than 10%.

I don't know though, I will still stick with bitcoin for now. I'm sensing that Japanese and South Koreans are going to start pumping it again. The price bitcoin is even as high as $5K on some of their trading platform. Not much discounted price at altcoins though, Ripple is still above 3$ and ETH just surpasses $1K.


Just like what they says, "all good things must come to an end". Alts have been rallying in the past months and they really took the spotlight, but the king is back and you will hear the roar of the herd already coming. Let's just wait for the next bull run.

I concur mate. It really takes a lot of patience and practice to be able to at least "perfect" the craft of tradiing. For newcomers it will be a huge challenge at the beginning, however, it will develop overtime. You can easily makes decisions that can make you earn a decent a decent profit.

However, its one part of the equation. Research is another thing. You need to do your homework and not hastily go into trading without any knowledge. Fundamentals is needed but most of the time, you need to research so that you can make a sound decision at the end.

And then when everything falls into pieces, I'm sure that you will enjoy trading and it will gonna be an easy task for you, and can play the market like a pro.

If I'm not mistaken, there was one article about the CEO of Visa declaring bitcoin a fraud or bubble or something to that effect. I can't remember correctly though.

Well, this is no surprising news. We all know that bankers really hates bitcoin and this declaration is another way of waging war against bitcoin. But why are you sad though? They are leading a smear campaigns against bitcoin and I'm sure that we can find others way to transact without Visa sponsored card.

Its not like the end of world for bitcoin. We all know that this will be forthcoming admit it or not. There are really feel threaten by crypto specially that its gaining ground once more. So be it, they started the war many years ago and I don't think can stop bitcoin though.

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Did the so called "Flippening" succeeded?

What made you think the "Rippening" would perform better?


And then what? If it doubled the current price in the next couple of days or weeks? Do you think its sustainable? Or are we going to see the coins being dump so that everyone is really taking profits and laughing because those who have bought it at top price are already trap inside and can get can't because they are going to suffer a lose. And just what others have said, its a centralized coins, just purely pump-and-dump coins for me.

Its better to take advantage of this kind of situation and not be delusional to think that it will just suddenly overtook bitcoin and stay there. Ethereum has tried before but it didn't succeeded as I have said, but lets give XRP a hand for trying though.