Why did you trust those guys? Look at the current price, it has recovered and now trying to test $17 once more but I think there's some resistance and the price is swinging wildly but somewhat settling above $16K. It went down to $13K and I was alarmed as well, but thinking that this is just a correction, I wouldn't bulge from people telling me to sell as well. I make my own decisions, its my money anyways.


Yes, its just a fallback that we have seen over and over again. And if you are too emotional and didn't know how resilient bitcoin is, you will really immediately dump it because you don't want to lose your profit. However, for those who are been here for almost a year now, is normal and bitcoin has also shown in the past that it can go even further after a crash or correction. So this price movement will end up to $20K at the end of this year.

Facebook and Google creating their own cryptocurrency if true has nothing to do with bitcoin. Its a separate entity which both companies can "control". As opposed to bitcoin which is decentralizes. What do you mean miss that? Both companies have already IPO and it doesn't make sense to offer this crypto's to the market. Yes, it's possible that then again, it will just harm than and no make sense in business stand point of view.

No need to make bitcoin as major currencies by big companies, this is totally outrageous and disadvantegous. Have you heard of state back currencies? If not they go and research and see if it fits and becoming successful. We don't need companies adopting bitcoin. We already have a lot of investors to push the price even further. And everyday bitcoin is becoming popular and fresh money is being pump into the ecosystem.

Bitcoin already surpasses 18K I believed, from just $700 starting this year. So that's more than 1000% increased if I'm not mistaken. Looks like you have predicted it because you are not surprised at all, unlike most of us here who didn't see it coming.


Congratulations then. Bitcoin has the potential to alleviate people's lives specially in third world countries. And like you portray in China, a simple farmer becomes a high family class because of bitcoin. They can now afford everything.


Yes, no one can stop Bitcoin not even the Great Wall of China. It's already proven, but let's assumed that China didn't banned bitcoin, every China man now are getting richer everyday. But they still have the monopoly on bitcoin mining farms, so I guess there's still who's going to be rich as hell because of bitcoin.


Yes, everyone is invited to the party. This is a new revolution, and the new beginning that will change the outlook of economics globally.

With all the shitcoins coming around, I'm sure that we can find at least the proverbial "needle in a haystick" in 2018. New shitcoins arrived, lots of hype around it, investors get interested, pump-and-dump and then BOOM x100's in few days. Book your profit and then look for the next, that's how it is. But the questions is how we gonna find out that one coin that will make us all rich? Would be interesting isn't it?

And to the existing coins, I still go with the top 1-10 in coinmarketcap. I think they are still undervalued this year because of the China ban ICO's and of course the bitcoin sweepstakes that we are seeing. I myself have some ETH that I didn't dump event though is reaches its all-time-high this year. I'm looking at 2018 as the year of the altcoins. Lots of project around, lots of IT companies interested, specially smart contracts. Let's see though. Just watch the top 1-5 this year, it would be huge.

With the huge influx of new customers coming in, I say that they are not ready to accept and transact this kind of volumes. I remember that there was this kind of situation before, specially when Japan entered the picture, the price pickup, customers increased resulting to many complains.

I guess those exchanges will need to make adjustments as well like upgrading their technical, - infrastructure including software, support channels, networks, servers. Communications are very important to their clients, so they should also make it a point to inform what is happening on their end beforehand so that every customers is updated.

And its not only exchanges are affected with the sudden spike hike, even tumbling services too, cryptomixer has been down lately because of DDoS. There's still a lot of individuals out there who wants to create havoc and panic specially when the price is surging.

As for the fees, it should only be increased or charge their client's appropriately. but then again, when the mempool is clogged we can't do anything about it but to pay higher fees.

This is the sad part. The one that is really affected by countries banning bitcoin is their citizens. I'm sure that there are Moroccan bitcoin community and hearing this is very unfortunately. I think there's really benefit from the government standpoint, citizens trading bitcoin, earn money, have purchasing power in their country = economic growth. However, this kind of government doesn't bother to look at the bright side of bitcoin.


I don't know about blockchain though. Blockchain is the underlying technology. Banks, who we all know hates bitcoin, but are very inclined towards blockchain technology because it has really lots of benefits. I hope that the Moroccan didn't turn their backs on blockchain. Not only banks but other industries as well can take advantage of it. If they completely shun away from bitcoin/blockchain, then they will be left out of the closet, while other nations are getting the best of out it and people making money. Its their lost.

Of course correction is bound to happen, the question is when? With all he bullish sentiments going on, how long can bitcoin sustain it? We don't know. What we all know is that CBOE bitcoin future contracts offering starts this December 10, for me bitcoin price will continue to rise up to December 10. Then CME's time to begin offering in Dec. 18. So we gonna see how this future contracts can sustain this massive bull run. This two news really drove what we call craziness and madness.


As for the FUD, investors have been matured with. They don't care about this so called FUD anymore and no amount of fakes news could swayed the bulllish investors that are willing to pour in their cash despite bitcoin reaching all-time-high. There's a lot of money to make and no amount of skepticism will stop them.

I'm not aware of any hacked though. But if you look at the price, it doesn't have any significant effect.

Bitcoin is already above the price of $10500$-$11500, been trading at $$13,405. And there's no stable price of bitcoin always remember that the market is volatile. As far as Bitcoin Cash, I don't think it can reach $3000, but there are still holders of it and its possible to get to that price long term. I understand your point in thinking that it can go that far, but it will took Bitcoin Cash a year or 2 to reach that price in my opinion.


There are really a lot of influential people behind Bitcoin Cash, (Jihan Wu, Roger Ver) and I initially thought that it will die as  well. But they are still standing and even have their share of the limelight when they attempted to overtook bitcoin, but unfortunately they didn't succeed. This coin will remain though, whether we like it or not, but wouldn't reach bitcoin's popularity. They don't have support of the community because we all know that they are here to satisfy those influential people through pump-and-dump scheme.

I don't mind getting a correction and pulling back the price to $10K. Are you kidding me? $10K is still a strong price in my opinion. However, I haven't seen a correction and it there's one already, the market reacts, buy bitcoin again and push the price to almost $13K now. And its just normal to see corrections isn't it. It's not something that we don't see in the market. This year alone we have several pullback and retracement, but bitcoin shows it can rebounded from all of this corrections.


LOL. You are either a troll or an alt. Creating FUD has no effect on the people now. With all the financial institutions getting on the side of bitcoin, a correction of $8K is a long shot. To bring the price to $8K, a couple of big whales should have a coordinated plan to sell at the same time causing panic and pull the price to $8K or even lower. But I doubt that they will do that right now.

It already crossed $12,500 now. It's really amazing and there's no stopping at this rate of buying and demand on bitcoin. Before the end of the week $13K will be breach. Demand is high because of all the financial institution recognizing it and offering future contracts. One(CBOE) is  set for Dec 11 and the other is Dec 18 (CME). So I'm assume before that time, bitcoin will continue to grow and then we will see how the market will reacts. I hope it's still on the positive.

And as far as I'm concern, I haven't heard anything negatives yet, that will pull the price of bitcoin. All the FUD's are quite and somewhat didn't know what hit them, its either they join the boat of remain in the closet for the long time and wait till the price sink and create another FUD. I will close the former though, no point of going against bitcoin now. Its gaining acceptance and popularity even to financial institutions who are attacking bitcoin in the beginning.

The price is growing even more everyday, $12,5xxx is now the price I'm looking at. I don't know what you guys thinking about a correction but I don't see it coming this year. Specially financial institution is getting on board now, the price could go higher than $15K at the end of the year. Not just with a big smile, but our wallets are getting fatter as well.


Yes, its insane. The positive sentiments are here to stay. There are a lot of people now who don't want to miss the opportunity to get on board at this time because the price could go as high as $20K next year. That's why I laugh when I read article saying that bitcoin is just a bubble, etc.. etc.. They can't stop bitcoin now, sorry for them, stay with their old traditional stock market because crypto is now the market that makes you earn huge money.

It's way too big if you are going to invest 1 BTC in trading in my opinion. I decent .050-.1 BTC. Start small and just re-invest your gains, its like rolling all in your capital. Specially in you are just starting on your trading journey, you might make some mistakes that your 1 BTC would be gone in just a few days. Start small and dream big my friend.


Yes, trading has a big risk if you don't know what your up to, in the end you will lose everyday. Strategy, entry and exit point should be defined before starting. If you don't know TA or least a basic analysis then you have to gain knowledge and study if first. Well we can't tell them not to be greedy, money is involved here, but at least control your emotions and used your better judgement.

Do you lived in a country where Internet is censored or somewhat controlled by your government? Because you can browse or surf from around the globe without using Tor.

I only used Tor once or twice. Just for experienced to see how dark web looks and feels like. Well others used it to hide and protect their privacy. But as far as online gaming for me, I don't used it because I lived today in a country where Bitcoin is legal in a sense, same as online gambling.


I'm no expert here, but from what you are saying, its easy to hack someone if he/she is using Tor on Wifi? So it really defeat the purpose of being private and secure using Tor?

I go check coinmarketcap for the daily price movement then look at several crypto-related website and then go around the forum and see what other's have to say on the current price speculation. Just try to filter out the best opinions, higher rank members tend to have a good and very interesting opinion specially in the speculation thread. I don't used Telegram groups, to much knowledgeable people there that sometimes they totally contradicts themselves. LOL.

Of course its me that makes the final decision on whether to sell or hold or buy more coins. Again, used your better judgement and not be swayed by the hype and FUD going around.

Good advise but still there are a lot of newbies in the market that easily panic and sell their coins with the price is dropping and then scratching their head and regretting their decisions later with the price picks up once more. To be honest, the price is very high and its so tempting not to take profits at this stage.

But if you are in the market for the long term, you should be better not to drop it today because the price can still go up in the next coming weeks. I will only sell if there is some kind of situation that I don't have a choose but to dump some of my stash in exchange of fiat then I will do it.

If you bought bitcoin at $10K and you think that the price is too high then you have to re-think your investment strategy, It looks like it hit $12K already, so that's around 2K profit for those who bought 1 bitcoin. And even if you have bought less than 1 bitcoin only, there's a clear profit to take as well.

But I have to agree, than hitting 5 digits has made a lot of casual investors like me to get bitcoin and waiting for the price to dip, but the sentiments are still bullish after the CME bitcoin future contracts has been announced and CBOe as well.

Personally, I can't buy at this steep price, would rather have to wait for a price correction and see what will be the floor price. But for those people who have some money to spare, you can buy bitcoin but be sure that you are going to hold in for the long term.

This thread was started in Oct. 25 when the price of bitcoin is around $5,700. If you keep on waiting till today, the OP has already lost and missed the opportunity to gain. You could have been doubled your bitcoin by today's price. So what does this means? Simple. There's no right time or wrong time to get into the market. The sooner the better. The chances of you getting big profit by just sitting your bitcoin in your wallet in very high.
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I don't care what does the so called expert are saying about bitcoin. Used your common sense here. If you follow them (most of them are skeptical) then you have lost as well. I also believed that bitcoin market is based on speculation. But this factor really drove the market price to go an upward or downward trend. But its not that important because by the rate the price going up and the demand, all their skepticism are worthless. Used your better judgement here.

We are all in for the MONEY right? So all of us who are getting into bitcoin, whether mining or trading are really hoping to make loads of money. Look at how the early adopters are, they bet big and now enjoying the rewards after years of banking and hoping to get it big in bitcoins.

And just like gold, bitcoin is getting harder to earn, at least you have to buy bitcoin at premium price now (above $11K) in order to realized your dream of becoming millionaires or billionaires in the next 5-10 years. There's not much difference in terms of being a mining in gold and bitcoin and being a investors as well.

Its never too late to get into the market and carry out our dreams of becoming rich from bitcoin. Just imagine at the start of this year and the end price now. If you have bought 1 bitcoin back then, your returns is already ten folds or more. That's why I call winning.

I agree. Look at how that thread is being trashed now, a lot of accusations thrown at you end. Maybe some of them are butthurt because you didn't accept them in their campaign and seeing this slightest chance to get back at you. But I'm sure that this issue will just die down naturally as you show intent of leaving the campaign and not get yourself involved.

I still remember a similar intent to put down Atriz though, every accusations thrown into the table. LOL. But the topic has simply forgotten because their is no basis from the very beginning. Keep you head high and don't be distracted from all of this. Just continue with you work and everything will be OK.

This is the lamest reason I heard so far for not buying bitcoin. Why it is not real? Did you heard about bitcoin exchange? It's where you can "exchange" your bitcoin to fiat. Bitcoin can't be hacked, its bitcoin wallet. And in case of your bitcoin wallet being hacked, its your fault if you didn't have put enough protection. (strong password, keep your private key safe, 2FA).


Its still not to late to buy bitcoin however, the price is really high today and just like you casuals investors, you need to wait for a dip and just buy in small portions and you wouldn't notice that you have accumulated it overtime. Glad though that you are able to supplement your income coming from your bitcoin earnings.


This is what I'm saying. You don't need to buy in bulk. A good strategy is to put aside funds to buy bitcoin. The rewards for saving bitcoin is really rewarding specially in you just started from small and seeing you bitcoin stash growing. Good job. Just hold on it and don't panic sell and you will be good.