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861  Economy / Lending / Re: Altcoinhosting's long term loans. Giving loans up to 0.1 BTC on: October 07, 2015, 07:13:20 AM
just gave a 0.011BTC loan with a maximum 72 hours, repayment 0.013
Took his jr member account with neutral trust as collateral:

https://blockchain.info/tx/85d7d4724baf2ec31fba0776fd324811c20db7a7c3bbe58e728f844215d099ea
862  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 07, 2015, 06:53:24 AM
hrrmmm... I might have found something that will make my own idea have bad consequences in the long run.

basically, my idea requires the lender to remove their feedback once the loan has been repaid. but I forgot to take inactivity into account (a lender might suddenly go silent and never remove their feedback)

for some reason I didn't think of this until now.  Undecided


but this can be neutralized to some degree by providing a reference link on all of your feedback so that lenders can check the latest "loan" feedback reference to see if the loan has been repaid or not. in this case, lenders may leave those feedbacks as they are rather than removing it after the loan has been repaid.

Good point, i'm adding this to my overview... I still like your  idear, and think it's a good candidate for a community sollution Smiley
863  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: October 07, 2015, 06:34:44 AM
Pliss quote guys..

Me : Sunhole.lovers

Btc address : 1KzMEZBwdQriyNB1vyNHaK5rxCFMrD97di

here you go Smiley
864  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What stops people creating the same bitcoin address? on: October 07, 2015, 06:13:11 AM
I would worry a lot more about things like brainwallet keys from users that used really simple passphrases... They can be generated twice by different users, but a random private key, chances are soooooo small  Smiley
865  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 07, 2015, 05:51:18 AM
Actually, guys, I like most of the idears that were outed in this thread:

  • my own idear, of making a central ledger Wink
  • UserVVIP's idear of making a browser extension (altough, that might be combinable with some of the other idears)
  • MrPeoples' idear of a loan bot
  • monbux' idear to enforce all bigger lenders to maintain their thread
  • --Encrypted--'s idear to leave a neutral comment for everybody taking a loan
  • Sir_lagsalot's idear for a lending subforum
  • TheGr33k's idear of a loanthread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203224.0

How about this idear: We discuss these possiblity's (other one's might be added to), and afterwards open a poll? Offcourse we can only do this if all lenders stick together, and more or less follow the outcome of said poll Wink

Here are my idears about the suggested sollutions, i'll add all extra comments from replys i agree with:

my own idear, of making a central ledger
pro's:
  • system with all loans in one place
  • I can make an API so the tool can be incorporated into other projects
  • Can be expanded in the future, for example: lenders could have a little dashboard displaying their open loans, with a payment calendar or something (just thinking out loud)
  • I have both the hosting and the knowledge to write this for free
cons:
  • It's a tool that's not hosted on bitcointalk.org
  • it's centralised
  • it's extra administration
  • it doesn't scrape the forum, so it has to be manually maintained (Vod's comment)

UserVVIP's idear of making a browser extension
pros:
  • you can add loans and lookup loans from your browser!
  • it can be combined with a couple other idears
cons:
  • i more or less think it HAS to be combined with another idear (the extension would need a database afterall)

MrPeoples' idear of a loan bot
This is one where i need some help: i don't know reddit's loanbot... The only obvious con, is that it'll cost some community bucks. So we would need a fundraiser..

monbux' idear to enforce all bigger lenders to maintain their thread
pros:
  • it would take no extra effort, everybody already has a loanthread Smiley
  • it's the easyest sollution, it keeps everything on bitcointalk.org
cons:
  • you would still need to search before finding out if somebody already has an open loan or not

--Encrypted--'s idear to leave a neutral comment for everybody taking a loan
pros:
  • Simple and elegant solution, i think this will actually work
  • it keeps everything on bitcointalk.org
cons:
  • using the unmoderated trust feedback. In case a lender falls off the grid, the feedback sticks to the lendee's profile (comment by --Encrypted--)

Sir_lagsalot's idear for a lending subforum
I think we already have one Wink. Opening a new subforum might work for a while, but i think in a matter of weeks/months it would be exactly the same situation it is today?

TheGr33k's idear of a loanthread
pros:
  • Simple
  • it keeps everything on bitcointalk.org
cons:
  • you still have to browse the whole thread
  • it takes an equal amount of time to enter the info in the thread as it takes to enter the info in a custom tool
866  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 06, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
I think even this is much more than required.
Or at least make more of the fields optional.

For example I may want to not disclose tx info or exactly what is the collateral.

And public info is good also be simple - lender, lendee, amount, till date.

Most of the fields are optional, you can check the column 'NULL', if it has a value 'NO' null values are not allowed, if it has a value 'YES', it's optional Wink

So, basically, only the lender and lendee are mandatory, the rest is optional... It is however still a usefull to know tx's, values, signatures, just in case a lendee claims he didn't take a loan (or at least, that's my idear behind it). If there is a concensus to add/remove fields, i'm certainly open to discussion.
867  Economy / Services / Re: [Hiring] Freelancer for mass video grab/download and watermarking [NSFW] on: October 06, 2015, 01:56:38 PM
It's not what you asked for, but i can write you a php or perl script to index websites, extract urls to videos, download the videos, pass them trough ffmpeg to watermark them...

That way, you'll never have to pay anybody to do this task ever again...

On the downside, i cannot make such a script for 0.25BTC, it'll cost a bit more, but it's a onetime payment... PM me if interested!
868  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 06, 2015, 01:48:43 PM
I would keep the database really simple, something like this:

http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/schema.html

Any comments are welcomed!
869  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 06, 2015, 12:50:02 PM
I'm not a lender, but I'm planning to become Smiley

Here is how it could be realized:

1. All users with lending thread get writing access
2. Could write just basic stuff - bitcointalk username and amount // marking as paid of defaulted on action
3. Front user interface (even public one) where you could just enter any nick and check is there an outstanding loans or not.

It would be helpful not only to lenders, but all account traders and anyone who want to make a deal with the user.

Thanks, you more or less describe what i was planning to do  Grin

i like the basic idea and i would supprt it!

Thanks for the support!

If i get some of the big lenders on board, i'll start making a demo, and post it here for feedback...
870  Economy / Lending / Re: [Need Load] No collateral 0.20BTC on: October 06, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
I do not want to risk my account being collateral for 50usd, so Escrow would be needed and I always make sure to tip the person providing the escrow. So it will go on top of the interest.

Thank you for your reply though, as said i'll probably pay back even sooner, it's just a request and it's only needed for this month, after which my request closes because the loan will nog be needed anymore.

I prefer to do business with 1 person instead of getting 4 loans of 0.10 which I do not wish to have on my account as a way of going about.

I have no problem with using an escrow, as long as it's somebody i trust... I've had good experience with Ognasty (but he charges a fee), and i've heared great things about monbux and master-p.
Anyways, you're always free to send me a PM with your offer, already incorporating the escrow cost, and i'll see if i can grant the loan on your terms Smiley

Edit, 1.4% daily intrest would look somehting like this: http://altcoinhosting.com/loantools/intrest_nl.php?day=6&month=10&year=2015&amount=0.2&collateral=0.31&rate=1.4&submit=calculate
871  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where do you find your private keys in bitcoin core wallet? on: October 06, 2015, 08:29:06 AM
Where do you find your private keys in bitcoin core wallet?

Read in another thread i should back them up beyond wallet.dat, so what i should write them down or something? anyway where are they and do you get a new private key for each new address i assume?

You assume correctly...
You need to use the help > debug interface > console (sorry, i translated this, my wallet is in my local language)
In the console, you can export your private keys, but be carefull not to expose them!

How do you mean expose? just as in someone physically seeing them?

Any other mistakes that can be made or is this a simple process?

Indeed, physically seeing them, or malware stealing them... But personally, i would follow shorena's advice... I blindly pointed you to the console, without questioning why you would want to export a list of private keys...

The biggest mistake would be to expose your keys in any way OR not using a HD wallet, and forgetting to export the keys for any new addresses that get generated in the future...

All in all, read shorena's advice, it's more helpfull than mine Wink
872  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where do you find your private keys in bitcoin core wallet? on: October 06, 2015, 08:14:50 AM
Where do you find your private keys in bitcoin core wallet?

Read in another thread i should back them up beyond wallet.dat, so what i should write them down or something? anyway where are they and do you get a new private key for each new address i assume?

You assume correctly...
You need to use the help > debug interface > console (sorry, i translated this, my wallet is in my local language)
In the console, you can export your private keys, but be carefull not to expose them!
873  Economy / Lending / Re: Altcoinhosting's long term loans. Giving loans up to 0.1 BTC on: October 06, 2015, 06:41:21 AM
Just gave a 0.04BTC loan to Bagus Tubagus, took his full member account as collateral

f0c8c7802309020ae4ce04444486c036a110ef45f75416ee5b6510b46989bc08

Editing the OP now
874  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] OPEN SPOTS Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: October 05, 2015, 07:31:31 PM
Hi,

Can i sign up?

Username: altcoinhosting
Rank: Full Member
Bitcointalk UID: 513122
Number of posts: 702
Bit-x addy: 3P1cMgs5TdS1tv2zbY11gh3yG7Mx87qgMq

I would have no problem adding bit-x as personal text and avatar if this is possible
875  Economy / Services / Re: INCREASED PAYOUT(7/13) ۩۞۩ secondstrade.com ★ signature campaign★weekly 0.06btc on: October 05, 2015, 07:24:03 PM
Hi Secondstrade,

I wish to quit your campaign. I have no problems with any of the rules, and i was always payed in full and on time. I just want to spend a little less time on the forum in the future, so i'm going to join a campaign without a weekly minimum amount of posts.

If i ever have more time to start posting regularly again, i'll defenately consider joining your campaign again, if you let me.

Thanks!
876  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 05, 2015, 04:37:49 PM
This seems like something that can be useful.

I would rather recommend a chrome extension instead.

You are completely right... A browser extension would make the job even easyer... To be honest, i wouldn't know how to make such an extension tough...

I could generate an online ledger with API, and let the community generate smartphone-apps, plugins and extensions as they please...
877  Local / Markt / Re: Webwinkels die btc accepteren? on: October 05, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
Ok zal straks even een kijkje nemen, hopelijk is het wat want ben al heel wat lijstjes af gegaan maar het is of wat ik al zei in me eerste bericht of nep, of scammers, of word niet in NL geleverd.

Vooral dat laatste kan wel een punt zijn bij enkele van de winkels op m'n lijstje, er zullen er vast wel enkele tussenzitten die niet in de EU leveren... Maar het lijstje is lang genoeg om er wel enkele goeie te vinden, en zoniet kan je er altijd nieuwe aanmelden die wel goed zijn Wink

Ik heb ze, toen ik ze ingaf, manueel nagekeken (wel geen proefbestelling gedaan, gewoon gekeken dat ze er deftig uitzagen, en dat ze cryptocoins accepteerden)... Het kan wel zijn dat er ondertussen enkele offline gegaan zijn (ik doe geen wekelijkse cleanup ofzo).
878  Local / Markt / Re: Webwinkels die btc accepteren? on: October 05, 2015, 01:54:07 PM
ik probeer een lijstje aan te leggen op buywithbtc.biz (sorry voor de linkspam). Hier staan er al een 100-tal op (wel een heel aantal NSFW)

Als je er nog meer vind, ben ik steeds op zoek naar nieuwe items Smiley
879  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Need 0.21 ASAP, Have FULL MEMBER and some torrent invites on: October 05, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
As thread title says. Have a year old FULL MEMBER acc with good activity, plus I can give you torrent invites of Waffles, Torrentleech, Torrentday, Bitspyder and IPTorrents. All that I have. Need $50 ASAP. Sort of an emergency.

I have 0.21 available, but it would really depend on the collateral wether or not it covers the loan.
To be honest, chances are slim it's good enough for a 0.21BTC loan. I cannot take invites as collateral, since there's no way to check if they're valid (if i have to check them, i have to use them, invalidating the collateral).

If you want to, you can send me the uid of the collateral account in PM, and i'll make you an offer about how much i can lend you, and for how long...
880  Economy / Marketplace / Lenders fighting SCAM together on: October 05, 2015, 12:38:47 PM
I have an active loan thread, and recently somebody succeeded in actually scamming me (i'm not going to go into details, since i've actually made arrangements with another member in order to minimize the financial loss i had, and i haven't discussed with this member wether or not i can link his name to this thread).

Apparently, some lendee's abuse the fact that they're free to take several loans at the same time using PM's (so there's no trace), offering insufficient or no collateral, and run with the loaned coins. The lenders stay behind, and can only -ve the account (in case it wasn't used as collateral)... In the end, there's not a lot you can do...

Now, if a user was restricted to taking 1 loan at a time, the problem would be a lot less severe (in my opinion)... once you've granted a loan, you can either sell the collateral, or -ve the main account in case of default, without having to consider other open loans that might influence the net worth of the collateral, or the reputation of the lendee, since you are in fact his only creditor...

I'm proposing the following, and would like to find out if there's some intrest in this project:
I can write a public, anonymous, open ledger of open loans. If enough lenders put all their open loans in the ledger, it would become harder for a scammer to ask for 2 loans at the same time (even in PM). As a lender, you would just check the BCT-username (or uid) of the person asking for a loan in the ledger... If he has an open loan, you can still grant him a new loan at your own discretion, but then at least you know that the lendee is already paying off a previous debt.
I would make the ledger anonymous, and moderated. This means that a lender could enter his loanthread, signed messages and tx id's IF he wanted to. If he didn't enter this information, a lendee could ask for the information to be removed due to lack of proof. The only required input would be: the lenders name, the lendee's name. Optional input would be the thread, messages, tx id's, default date,... . I wouldn't add the intrestrate, payback plans,... since i don't want the ledger to be an easy place where a lendee can compare intrestrates, and shop around for his/her loan.
I would keep the ledger free, without forced donation or something, maybe even open source,... There wouldn't be any private data in the ledger anyways, so security shouldn't be an issue. Since i pay for a dedicated box and domainnames anyways, i could just host the ledger script on my server...

Once again, i'm just finding out if there is public intrest in such a project... So please leave me your remarks!
If you're not interested in this project, but you have another idear to fight scammers together, don't hesistate to elaborate!

PS: Please, do not reply to this thread if you're not a lender on this forum. I would like to keep this topic clean Smiley

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