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Seems like the map is pretty accurate:
34 minutes ago
Battles in Krasnyy Luch
What i find really interesting is that you can select a date and check the tweets from that date
If i switch to 10 July i see battles around slavyansk , siversk , Dokuchajevsk , Stanytsia , pretty far away from where the rebels are claiming the war is now
Switch to june 10?
It's like Hitler's final victory while the allied crossed the Rhine
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The battle maps change almost hourly. It's like the civil war under Polish intervention of the 1918 all over again. There is no uniform Ukrainian army - there are disparate groups, belonging to various oligarchs and factions fighting here and there, and destroying as much as they can in the process.
You're really avoiding the question. It's like saying that the NAZI army was encircled at Stalingrad and then another victorious battle for the soviet forces when they repelled the same army group from Samara 10 hours later. The rebels claimed they have encircled and killed 3000 Ukrainian soldiers that don't feel that entrapped to me. Fact is that the title is already obsolete. kharkov , Sloviansk , kramatorsk..... |
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1) look on the map where Krasnyj Luch is. 2) If this news is true then how was there a battle in the town mentioned above? If the Ukrainian troops have been halted ( 3000 killed , are your serious) near the town of amvrosiivka , how did they managed to get 50 km in the north to fight at krasnyj luch? Now the claims of fighting near lutugino , let's again look at the map and that is in the south east of luhansk again. |
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Seems like the rebels are starting to get their asses kicked Pretty interesting website http://liveuamap.com/Also funny how they start asking for a ceasefire as soon as they were cut from the border with russia. |
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Not really, they can sustain themselves during a period of time, even without EU/US buying stuff from them. Meanwhile, EU won't have natural gas and everyone over here will get screwed.
If the big pharma groups stop the export of drugs to Russia (85% of the total drugs on the market are imported) will see the Russian population shrink by 10% percent in one year. Also , what is even funnier is that most of the drilling equipment used by the Russian to dig and process and also transport gas and oil is imported from Holland , Norway and Germany.  Yeah, but they already have that equipment, and if they stop selling gas, they don't really need additional equipment. Also, can i have a source for the drug thing? Right now, PharmaTimes notes, 85% of Russia's state drug spending goes to foreign-made drugs. In 2011, 93% of the most expensive meds sold in the country were imported. So, moving the needle in the opposite direction will freeze out a lot of foreign-made drug sales. And , if they already have the equipment why are they still importing it? Because they need constant replacements , parts and so on. http://en.ria.ru/business/20140808/191832928/Russias-Rosneft-Proposes-Law-Change-to-Bypass-US-Imports-Ban.htmlMOSCOW, August 1 (RIA Novosti) — Russia’s oil giant Rosneft has proposed to the country’s government to amend its corporate purchases law or scrap import duties on drilling equipment in the wake of the recent Western sanctions, a Russian economic daily wrote Friday. It is not the first time that the issue about imposing of duties on import drill rigs has appeared on the Russian agenda. Not long ago the government concluded that the domestic manufacturer needs protection, and approved import duty rates equal to 5-15% of the customs value of equipment. Later, they were slashed to zero due to demands from the oil-and-gas lobby asserting that home manufacturers do not take into account requirements of drilling companies and do not make user-friendly and efficient drill rigs.
The cancellation of duties gave certain results: now Russian companies are manufacturing drill rigs entirely by customers' specifications, completing them with the components preferred by oil companies. However, another problem came up: being of similar configuration, Russian rigs turned out to be much more expensive than Chinese equipment and just slightly cheaper than German rigs. The reason was not only in annually increasing rates for gas, electricity, gasoline, metal and rail transportation, but also in the Chinese approach to industrial management. Cheap labor, low taxes and costs put Russian manufacturers at a disadvantage. |
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Not really, they can sustain themselves during a period of time, even without EU/US buying stuff from them. Meanwhile, EU won't have natural gas and everyone over here will get screwed.
If the big pharma groups stop the export of drugs to Russia (85% of the total drugs on the market are imported) will see the Russian population shrink by 10% percent in one year. Also , what is even funnier is that most of the drilling equipment used by the Russian to dig and process and also transport gas and oil is imported from Holland , Norway and Germany. |
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Are you trying to say that nuclear contamination from a nuclear bomb or, say 10x of those is not comparable in health consequences to the radiation emitted from a nucler power plant disaster?
Exactly. The Russian and American nuclear weapons which are currently active, are much more powerful than the ones which were dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Hiroshima bomb killed people within a 10 sq. km area (around 2,500 acres). But an average Russian / American nuclear weapon (current) can wipe off life from at least 100 sq. km of area. If some one detonates 10,000 nukes, then that will be capable of wiping out life from the entire continental USA + Alaska. 100sq km multiplied by 10 000 means 1 000 000 sq km. total area of the united states is 9 mils. http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-i-learnt-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/ |
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http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/142200/russia-demands-internet-users-show-id-to-access-public-wifiPutin, who alarmed industry leaders in April by saying the Internet is "a CIA project", says the laws are needed to fight "extremism" and "terrorism." The decree, signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on July 31 but published online on Friday, also requires companies to declare who is using their web networks. The legislation caught many in the industry by surprise and companies said it was not clear how it would be enforced.
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Are you trying to say that nuclear contamination from a nuclear bomb or, say 10x of those is not comparable in health consequences to the radiation emitted from a nucler power plant disaster? I find it hard to believe.
Nagasaki and Hiroshima were rebuild in less than 5 years after the bombing and people are living there with quite high life expectancy. Cernobil on the other side will not be completely safe for human life for 1000 years or more. |
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What bothers me the most is the title of the thread. It makes it as if Tzar Putin sits on a throne and hands out laws. Whereas in reality, the legislative branch in Russian Federation is State Duma (Parliament), and they can be quite creative with the laws they coin. Putin may suggest that something needs attention. So can a quite powerful lobby that has seen a number of laws not favourable to Russia passed.
This blogger law, as well a number of laws targeting the internet are not well thought-out, but they are there to protect Russia from the 5th column and a repeat attempt on performing a colour revolution, just like it was done in many post-Soviet countries. Russia has military to protect it against an open armed invasion. No one says that Russia should not have an army. (OK, maybe US complains a bit that Russia moves its army within its own borders.) But the world is changing and an invasion can take different forms. These laws are forming a groundwork for a defence system that aim to protect Russia from this new threat vector. These laws will also need to be refined and revised. And the current outcry and pointing out of the absurdities will be a valuable feedback to further legislative effort.
And to digress. If Russia, as a democracy, decides to have a ruler with monarch-like powers, is it in US jurisdiction to say that such a choice is wrong undemocratic and perform a corrective democratic bombing/sanctioning? There's been precedents for such a democratic choice of monarchy: Novgorod Republic is one. So what if Putin has the support of the population and said population chooses to go the way of more authocratarian leader? Russia in general has a tendency to view a need for a strong central figure. If Obama became a president of Russia, he would be expected to look into all local affairs and to personally direct local bureaucrats on complaints from the citizens. There was one time when Russia started to drift away from the strong central ruler - after the February revolution of 1917, when the foundation for constitutional monarchy and for state Duma were laid. However, that path of development was cut short, and Russia again fell under the central monarch-like rule of the Soviet leaders. What Russia is going through now is a way of finding a governance system that works for it and the mindset of the people populating the country. That this emergent form might not coincide with what the Western "democracies" view as "correct", is not the business of those Western countries.
Seems like titles like Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia EU contractors in Ukraine Russian Federation against paid trolls. MH17 - Where is shrapnel? Are not bothering you. The title is because of his statements: Putin calls internet a 'CIA project' http://news.yahoo.com/russias-putin-calls-internet-cia-project-144259718--finance.htmlThe Russian president told a media conference in St Petersburg that America's overseas espionage agency had originally set up the internet and was continuing to develop it. Speaking Thursday at a media forum in St. Petersburg, Putin said that the Internet originally was a "CIA project" and "is still developing as such." To resist that influence, Putin said, Russia needs to "f ight for its interests" online. |
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there are still shortages (not starvation) due to the army first policy which diverts resources to the military but this is absolutely essential for warding off imperialist aggression. koreans understand fully that their sacrifices ensure the survival of their nation and socialist system and for this reason even during the famine when up to a million died there was no hint of rebellion against the leadership. kim jong il will be remembered alongside napoleon and alexander as military genius for developing the army first politics.
Remembered by who? By those that have starved? You nkorean propaganda isn't going to to work on this forum. You're wasting your time. |
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I wonder to know what happened with the honey.  Probably a lot wonder too if it has been seized by the police and it's going to be sold at an auction  ))) Some guys will find it tastier than manuka honey. |
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i find it strange that they send chocopies to a country of people who are malnourished and starving. chocopies are not going to help.. give them something with more nutritional value.
Have you read the article? It was an act of rebellion against the alleged North Korean ban on the chocolate confections. You can't send tons of food with balloons. in 2013: The UN food body on Saturday said it had approved $200 million of food aid for North Korea, targeting the country's most vulnerable people who remain dependent on external assistance.
The World Food Programme (WFP) executive board has this week approved a new two-year operation for North Korea starting on July 1, WFP spokesman Marcus Prior said.
"It will target about 2.4 million people - almost all children, and pregnant and nursing women - with about 207,000 metric tons of food assistance at a cost of US$200 million," he said in an email to AFP. Is that enough to help to a country which is constantly harassing you with it's military plans? what about it? still doesnt' change the fact that if i'm sending "food" to starving people, it won't be chocolate pies. no one is starving, these are stories from 1994 - 2000 being repeated in the media by anti dprk sources. in recent years north koreans have seen great improvements in their living standards under the guidance of leaders kim jong il and kim jong un.
do you work for the glorious leader kim jong un? because north korea is one of the poorest countries in the world. Obviously you don't have a clue what a message means This was a protest aimed at a ban against chocolate imposed by the north Korean government. Nobody claimed it was going to help starving people. And before criticizing the move , how many kilos of food have you sent to NK? |
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no one is starving, these are stories from 1994 - 2000 being repeated in the media by anti dprk sources. in recent years north koreans have seen great improvements in their living standards under the guidance of leaders kim jong il and kim jong un.
yeah . they are shooting them as traitors before starving so nobody can say people are suffering from hunger 2013 Although it's been aiming bellicose rhetoric -- not to mention, missiles -- at the United States and South Korea lately, North Korea is now singing a different tune for some of its neighbors. Pyongyang's new ambassador to Mongolia officially asked for food aid for North Korea last week.
“North Korea may face severe food shortage. Therefore, we ask Mongolia to learn possibilities of delivering food aid to North Korea," North Korea's ambassador to Mongolia Hong Gyu said in a statement posted on the official website of the Mongolian president. 2011 North Korea has ordered all its embassies to appeal to foreign governments for food aid in a sign of growing desperation in Pyongyang, according to diplomatic sources.
This direct approach to foreign capitals, launched in December, is highly unusual for the insular and totalitarian regime, which normally negotiates deliveries of food assistance with international organisations such as the World Food Programme. |
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i find it strange that they send chocopies to a country of people who are malnourished and starving. chocopies are not going to help.. give them something with more nutritional value.
Have you read the article? It was an act of rebellion against the alleged North Korean ban on the chocolate confections. You can't send tons of food with balloons. in 2013: The UN food body on Saturday said it had approved $200 million of food aid for North Korea, targeting the country's most vulnerable people who remain dependent on external assistance.
The World Food Programme (WFP) executive board has this week approved a new two-year operation for North Korea starting on July 1, WFP spokesman Marcus Prior said.
"It will target about 2.4 million people - almost all children, and pregnant and nursing women - with about 207,000 metric tons of food assistance at a cost of US$200 million," he said in an email to AFP. Is that enough to help to a country which is constantly harassing you with it's military plans? |
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Who install backdoors? - VK or mail.ru?
Are You thinking, that people have no way to connect with this services?
VPN is still there and some are for free.
Latter. I see no reason to use such "services" though. Refer to the website in my previous post. You should have no struggle reading it, but maybe it won't be comprehensible to you. You should really only speak or actually write in russian with 247crypto , he is using a very bad translator (worse than google) for his posts. |
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http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-internet-censorship-social-media-crackdown-make-it-easy-putin-stay-popular-1651078Putin’s dismissal of the Internet as an ongoing CIA project was turned into a punchline in the West, but his attitude is a reflection of how countless Russians feel about the web. That paranoia only increased with the disclosures from National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden last year.
The president signed a law last month forcing all online companies conducting business inside Russian borders to store six months’ worth of data at facilities located inside Russia. Starting in September 2016, if U.S.-based companies like Twitter, Google and Facebook want to operate on Russian soil, they must also be prepared to turn over data to Russian security services upon request, without a court ruling or any kind of justification. And the us was the evil one. Now to the funny part “And we’re not talking about Russian user data, but rather all personal information of any user who happens to have some readers from Russia – like, say, Barack Obama, who has no less than 3,000 Russian nationals among the 40.5 million subscribers to his Facebook page,” Anton Nossik, the first-ever Russian blogger, wrote for the New Republic. “Twitter should also prepare to move all of Obama’s personal data to Russia and hand it over to the FSB, since both Putin and Medvedev are his followers on twitter. If any of these companies don’t comply they would be subject to administrative fines, up to 500,000 roubles [$14,000], and Russian ISPs would have to block access to these platforms.”
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I'll add this message from your friend pagan. It's by far more ontopic that your nonsense. The "Safe Internet League" is more censorshipWill Russia Start Blocking Websites in Real Time? With the RuNet already plagued by Roskomnadzor blacklists, blogger registration, and the blocking of Twitter accounts with no discernible justification, Russia now wants to introduce an automated real-time filtering system that will block websites that contain “harmful content.” The proposed plan would add a second layer of censorship to Russia's already-pervasive website blacklist system, under which ISPs are required to block all websites containing “calls to riots, extremist activities, the incitement of ethnic and (or) sectarian hatred, terrorist activity, or participation in public events held in breach of appropriate procedures.” According to an ITAR-TASS report, Russia would require ISPs to install “smart filters” that would screen and block “harmful content”, which would presumably be identified based on a pre-determined list of keywords. The “smart filtering” idea and its technical details have been proposed by the Safe Internet League, a Kremlin-loyal NGO partnering with several large Russian ISPs. Safe Internet League executive director Denis Davydov explains that existing blacklists are not great at filtering out dangerous content, and says their system, once installed at the level of ISPs, could analyze web content in real time and easily block offensive pages: Translation We suggest introducing preemptive Internet filtering, which allows us to automatically determine the content of the page queried by the user in real time. The system evaluates the content on the page and determines the category which the information belongs to. In case the category is forbidden, the system blocks the webpage automatically. The typically snarky personalities of the RuNet thought the League's new initiative would do nothing to create a safer online environment — instead, the added layer of algorithmic bureaucracy would only contribute to the existing limits already imposed on netizens in Russia, and would make the users work even harder to access their preferred content. Photographer Anton Martynov mockingly suggested that Russia was succeeding in its bid to “solve the Internet”: Во всём мире бьются и не могут решить, а Лига безопасного интернета в России нашла решение: http://t.co/zXUV1FjkzW — ура, слава России!!! — Anton Martynov (@podakuni) August 4, 2014 The world over is struggling and can't figure this out, but the Safe Internet League in Russia has solved it: http://t.co/zXUV1FjkzW – hooray, glory to Russia!!! Blogger Ilya Varlamov was incensed at the new filtering initiative: Лига безопасного интернета предлагает ввести в России предфильтрацию контента“ Успокойте их кто-нибудь, а? — Ilya Varlamov (@varlamov) August 4, 2014 Safe Internet League proposes implementing pre-filtering of content in Russia. Somebody please calm them down, would you? Internet entrepreneur Gaidar Magdanurov thought the Safe Internet League's efforts were entirely counterproductive: “Лига Безопасного Интернета” продолжает бороться с Интернетом – http://t.co/tWOpMBLIGt — Gaidar Magdanurov (@gaidar) August 4, 2014 “Safe Internet League” continues to fight the internet – http://t.co/tWOpMBLIGt. Earlier this summer, Duma deputy Yelena Mizulina had already proposed an automated Internet filtering system in an attempt to protect the minds of Russia’s youngsters. Mizulina demanded that the Internet service providers block “adult” Web content by default in an effort to create a “Clean Internet.” Consumers would be allowed to opt out of the filtration system, but only by making a special request to their ISP. Davydov says developers at the Safe Internet League have already tested their two-step filtration model in Kostroma and Omsk regions, as well as the Komi Republic, and have found it works quite well (or so he says). Should the system go into broader use, it will generate a significant escalation of state attempts to control the Russian Internet. Users have found multiple ways of getting around blocks generated by blacklists, using VPNs and other circumvention tools to view their favorite blacklisted websites. If the “smart filtering” system is indeed implemented, one can only guess how quickly Russian netizens will learn to work around the new, ever-pervasive Internet controls. https://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/08/08/will-russia-start-blocking-websites-in-real-time/ |
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A guy come to bitcointalk and posts only in threads about russia....
Politics & Society 1922
Off-topic 464
Beginners & Help 52
Alternate cryptocurrencies 15
out of his 400 posts most of them are in pictures from russia thread
Count Your posts about Russia, are You sure not be addicted by hate to Russian Federation? If it weren't for hundreds of humanbots like you that invaded all the forums posting pro russian propaganda out of the blue I would have taken russia side in this the conflict. The reason i don't like the US is because of it's manipulation but when i see the same from the other side and two times I have nothing to do that pray both the us and russia will end in a garbage dump and I'll be the one with a tractor running them flat. |
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