Hey I need some help with Bter. I want to make an account to buy some SuperNet tokens, but whenever I try to make account with a strong password(50+ char password generator), I get an error "The re-inputed password does not mismatch". When I use a weak password to make an account it lets me... wth? I don't want to use an account to hold SuperNet tokens with a weak password and get hacked. Anyone know whats going on?
Use 50 chars, it's enough. as far as I recall BTER accepts max 50 char passwords. ie w2bu*9HBsBw3%8F=g3jx?/ztFX986w%GR{?m2P%ef]hFBLJei4I just tried 50 chars, 45 chars, 40 chars and none worked. Finally 30 chars worked. Thx for help. But why does Bter limit the password length? So we can get hacked easier? This is the first exchange I used that actually has this limit. Wish polo did the ICO instead of Bter. Set up 2FA which will increase your security immeasurably, that said, a 30 character random password is pretty darn secure. |
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I see some sells going on. But when i place an order it says "not permitted". why is that so?
At BTER you can't sell above the current offer price, only below. |
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Why make a joke? I'm trying , like everybody here to make some extra cash that's it. I don't want fud I would never fud anyone's thread as all are equal to there own projects and opinions. Josh that wasn't fud…. i want to buy 7000 of your coins Did you read his post" "There will only be 1000 of each coin for now, if orders over exceed we can always get more printed and also if you have a coin you wish to be minted please contact and I will quote you on , product . Type of material, and amount of coins." I'm curious, what would you do with $70,000 worth of these coins? |
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This question was address previously by Drak. The basic answer was, if the population of XCH is lowered significantly the price of XCH services can be adjusted. For example, it is 1 XCH to create a contract. This could be changed to .1 or .01.
But, I don't think this will be needed for a long time. There's a lot of XCH out there.
What is the "population" of XCH? Who will "adjust" what prices? I thought it would be a market based solution? A change from 0.1 to 0.01 is a 90% loss to XCH holders. Who can "decide" that? Is there a Clearinghouse Politbuero? Yep, there is, it's called the network. Whatever version 51% of the network runs is what will rule the coin. So, if the devs put out a release that drops the price to create or modify an asset and the miners run it, then viola.... it is done. That said, don't shoot the messenger. I'm probably gonna post much less here. Answering questions that have been answered time and again is probably a waste of my and most of those that follow this threads time. |
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Please can we stop this now, James told me to open a ticket with Bter and that what I did, I did not place any order myselr of 500 next, it was there when I logged in
Seriously? If you want to stop, then don't reply with outrageous claims. You are telling use your PC magically bought the tokens at 500 NXT each? You didn't put a BUY order in to buy them? Ok... fine... convo over. |
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Is the sig reward program over? I haven't received coins since 20 Aug. I used to PM darmish about this, but iirc he is no longer in control of those funds or that giveaway?
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yes, NXT moved up sharply last 24 hrs
This^^^ will be very bad for SuperNET (at least short-term). I already knew that NXT holders (especially the initial stakeholders) SUCK at trading but this is borderline pathetic... they always seem to do the opposite of what would be in Nxt's interest... just saying...  Yeah, sooooo bad for NXT. So terrible to have the price go up towards reasonable evaluation prices. Smh. Lol Actually, it isn't awesome for those that get TOKEN d1. I should have anticipated this and waited a few days... since I am getting token with already held NXT, I am actually paying more NXT per token, then if I waited a few days for NXT to go to a peek and bought TOKEN then. Argh... the only good thing is that perhaps in 10 days I will be able to get more tokens for less NXT each. what if NXT price goes down? there is no way to know which is best the price of NXT changing, this is not changing the price of the TOKEN, it is changing the purchasing power of NXT Now if you did 50/50 or 33/33/33 split, then you would get the average cases and not have a chance of the worst selection. of course no chance for the best one either. let us not be counting the pennies, they are important, but to be frustration over not being able to predict chaos, is self-torture now if you did the SMA projection like I recommended, you could at least get some visibility into the future price, but it is probably too complicated for most. OK, I will tell you a trick you can use. We know the reference price is the 24 hr SMA, so what you need to do subtract out the shrinking bonus. this is approx by looking at the BTC price, getting a percentage from 0.01 and adjusting the NXT price that bter is showing. now plot this number every 5 minutes. (more frequent is better) Since we are talking about 24hr average, let us say that if the price is dropping for 1 hour straight and the current NXT price is also below the SMA price, then the rise has reversed. You can do the opposite to find when the fall has reversed. so then you just want for the current trend that is in your favor to reverse, then put the order in. wont be perfect, but with 24hr sma it is a slow boat, if it turns around for an hour, odds are decent it wont just reverse again James James... I wasn't complaining. I don't think a 2-5% price difference will really amount to much over the long term. |
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James,
can you put YOUR current NXT AE price somewhere clear to see? Like the first post of this thread in big green bold numbers or something. It's hard to know what the "official" price currently is, just observing the NXT AE.
Thanks
Just look for "Asset Issurer" in the account column of the Sell orders in your NXT wallet. |
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All that needs 2 happen is for A line to be drawn after 24 hrs. then calculate how much has been raised in each coin do the maths on average price and reissue the correct amount of tokens even if it means making a new token and scraping old one. This was supposed to be a fair deal. At the moment it's anything but. Jon  do not worry, we will issue extra TOKEN so you end up at the official price it will just take a bit of custom coding by bter for NXT AE I can only offer a 114 price if anybody really over paid, PM me with the details and I will see what to do Slightly confused. 114 on NXT AE. I bought at asset issuer price of 127 ?? THIS jl777, everyone needs to pay 127, otherwise bad blood! take your time bro, but don't let let some pay 114, some 127, and some 140 - ALL 127! you are talking about 127 or 140 I paid bloody 500!!!! see below 09-06 22:16:11Buy350.0000000015.972 09-06 22:15:35Buy350.000000000.028 09-06 22:14:59Buy500.0000000010.000 09-06 22:14:18Buy500.000000005.000 09-06 22:13:32Buy500.000000001.000 I'm not sure if you realize that your mistake is probably going to come out of james's poket. He is the kind of guy that will make this right, even though it was your mistake. But, you should pay attention... you DID put in by orders at 500 right? Did you calculate how much that was in BTC and look at the IPO price and maybe think, hmmmm, that seems too high, let me see what's going on there before I play 4x too much for this. |
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this is so wrong, please stop the ipo! I am furious I lost more than 15,000 nxt with this shit ipo!!!
I assume you bought from someone other than "Asset Issuer" which is clearly shown in the NXT AE as the selling account. |
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Considering your net worth of 4000 BTC in crypto, all I can say, I certainly wont be able to afford those "food and latte" too  . That said, couple of queries/suggestions: 1. BITGO has a paid service for "enterprise" level wallets. I have not tried it so I am not sure what kind of extra layered security is in place for that. If you are considering them for multi sig addresses. 2. Now most of the people already know you/your work with NXT. I first heard about you when I was reading up on the BTSX in wallet exchange where they have put in markets pegged (to use their lingo) to BTSX. Someone mentioned about Supernet and how it will have a market effectively trading every crypto joins to any other crypto. So the query is: how different/similar is this idea to the BTSX exchange market? 3. As I said, I am not overly familiar with your work but I do see the long list of project you are into. Thats one huge list man  Many of them have been open source basis, I presume? So I was wondering if you could list out the projects which you are currently working on/are in the pipeline? The reason is I really want to know how busy you really are? We normally have the best of intentions when taking on a project but things fall apart some times because of an issue encountered with another projects. I also think it will help in disclaimering your already fully disclaimered pdf You can probably add "expect a bit of delay"/"don't bitch if the initial date is pushed" to your list. The btsx holographic peg experiment is proceeding so far as I have expected. I am worried that my full prediction will come to pass, so I am not spending efforts on understanding the details. I have been too busy for such extra research. Please do not ask about my opinions on this, you can search forums and find my postings I posted a few posts back the layered structure of my projects. they are all one big project with most of them being applications written on top of the SuperNET layer. the source codes are here for a recent version: github.com/jl777/libjl777 I have not put all the things into libjl777 yet, I guess only about half of the 40,000 lines are in there for now, but this is just lack of time for housekeeping. The SuperNET launch is delaying me by about a week, I estimate a full month of debugging to get all except the Privatebet into a beta release. Maybe I am only able to work halftime on the debugging, so with only 50 hours a week, then it could be taking two months. So I think the timeframes of yearend for all but Privatebet and 6 months for things to get up to speed is reasonable. I ask for forgiveness if I am not meeting this schedule with exact precision, I am finding that there is much time spent recently on the 100+ PM's I am getting every day. I do not know how much longer I can continue to answer every PM. If it is OK for me to ignore the PM's of low content, then that will increase the time I have for coding. so please do not send me a PM until you are reading this thread, thesupernet.org and asked on the thread. Everybody can help this poor monkey from menial work if you are making the right answers on the thread. Then if you can refrain to ask me in PM, you can ask me on the thread. SuperNET should be the best idea for everything, the best answer for every question, the best mind for each post. I thank you for your assistance. James I understand you have quite a lot of projects under your belt. I just wanted to understand how things stack up. I will try to dig up your structured project post. In any case, just for the fact that you are making an effort to answer every post, I will invest whatever meagre btc I have. please follow the advices on being able to sleep soundly. this is the only way you can HODL bull shit, after holding 6 month of xmr,doge,auro,nas, I only get 10% or even less. You mean you lost 90% or gained 10%? A 10% gain on investment in 6 months is quite good. |
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yes, NXT moved up sharply last 24 hrs
This^^^ will be very bad for SuperNET (at least short-term). I already knew that NXT holders (especially the initial stakeholders) SUCK at trading but this is borderline pathetic... they always seem to do the opposite of what would be in Nxt's interest... just saying... Yeah, sooooo bad for NXT. So terrible to have the price go up towards reasonable evaluation prices. Smh. Lol Actually, it isn't awesome for those that get TOKEN d1. I should have anticipated this and waited a few days... since I am getting token with already held NXT, I am actually paying more NXT per token, then if I waited a few days for NXT to go to a peek and bought TOKEN then. Argh... the only good thing is that perhaps in 10 days I will be able to get more tokens for less NXT each. |
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Why on all fucking earth would you go with BTER!? Since they are so well regarded in the NXT community... They have practiced similar scenarios before and they are Chinese; less inclined to legal limits Polo is experiencing right now. I can believe that a Chinese company has fewer legal limits than an American Company. LOL Unfortunately, the USA protecting their citizens from all possible dangers is making for a very dependent citizenry by 2040, well, it is still not certain, so let us remain optimistic! The registration of securities has been a requirement in the US since 1933 and I really don't see it as a bad thing. Is a government protecting their citizens such a bad thing? Sure, they can go overboard, but I don't think this item does. All registration does is ensure the investors have adequate verifiable information about what they are investing in. This is probably no more than most investors would want anyway. http://www.sec.gov/answers/regis33.htmAlso, private offerings are perfectly legal as long as the investors are qualified and most states allow a certain number of unqualified investors for a private placement. I'm surprised also that Polo trades JHL which can probably be considered a security as well. Although I think JHL could be considered a crypto asset, or coin just as easily as a security. There is a very fine line. you convinced me, I will be offline for a few hours as I am applying for a USA visa, I cant wait to meet all the lawyers I'm not trying to "convince" you of anything. |
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My friend bought 2000 gigs i believe in june he broke even last week. On the other hand i bought 480,000 khs from litecoin gear and my roi will be under a month. See my signature at bottom.
How much to you pay for electricity? I assume you mean break even after 1 month assuming current price of LTC? |
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So whats better to do...buying from Bter with btc or buying from NXT AE with NXT? Apparantly you get the best price from Bter, you said, but how does Bter make sure the tokens stay 0.01btc on day one? The demo looks like a trading platform, so it is possible people are bidding higher?
I am also curious if the 15% bonus for NXT/BTCD reflected by the lower price on the exchange? Or, will you get 15% more of UNITY than the Tokens you are purchased? |
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Why on all fucking earth would you go with BTER!? Since they are so well regarded in the NXT community... They have practiced similar scenarios before and they are Chinese; less inclined to legal limits Polo is experiencing right now. I can believe that a Chinese company has fewer legal limits than an American Company. LOL Unfortunately, the USA protecting their citizens from all possible dangers is making for a very dependent citizenry by 2040, well, it is still not certain, so let us remain optimistic! The registration of securities has been a requirement in the US since 1933 and I really don't see it as a bad thing. Is a government protecting their citizens such a bad thing? Sure, they can go overboard, but I don't think this item does. All registration does is ensure the investors have adequate verifiable information about what they are investing in. This is probably no more than most investors would want anyway. http://www.sec.gov/answers/regis33.htmAlso, private offerings are perfectly legal as long as the investors are qualified and most states allow a certain number of unqualified investors for a private placement. I'm surprised also that Polo trades JHL which can probably be considered a security as well. Although I think JHL could be considered a crypto asset, or coin just as easily as a security. There is a very fine line. |
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Yesterday i called someone on localbitcoins to buy btc and exchange them for btcd.
Sadly he couldn't meet me yesterday. We will meet in a couple of hours.
I could have gone up by 25% since yesterday. F@#$#@ck
That's ok. Just put a buy order in at the price you want. Prices are pretty volatile. You do realize its about to be released and we are on the brink of a major x10 pump. Do you think the dark markets and chinese havent been wanting what this coin offers for years. Well then, 25% isn't a big deal to not have got.  |
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Yesterday i called someone on localbitcoins to buy btc and exchange them for btcd.
Sadly he couldn't meet me yesterday. We will meet in a couple of hours.
I could have gone up by 25% since yesterday. F@#$#@ck
That's ok. Just put a buy order in at the price you want. Prices are pretty volatile. |
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Is it possible to buy the TOKEN using the NXT AE, or is it necessary to buy it on bter?
Yes, make sure you get the correct asset ID... there is a fake one out there. |
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In other words when Unity is dispersed is it based on the number of NXT I have donated or is it based on the number of tokens I have?
Surely it will be based on the tokens that you have. New buyers might get more tokens than you though. Now see this is the confusing thing to me as I can not see the purpose of the tokens. Why not just buy Unity shares directly? Because there is no way to know how many unity shares to issue. So, you will buy the TOKENs and then after the IPO is closed, james will issue the UNITY assets with the exact number of tokens, divisible to 4 decimals and send them 1:1 to TOKEN holders and also to BTER so they can do the same. |
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