Just what we needed !
Time to jump on this P&D right about ... NOW ( 27 January ) !
When I think about it, this whole coin concept sounds more and more like ... ( yeah, you guessed it ! ) SolidCoin !
What mining algorithm does it use ? Is this another one of those scrypt-based CPU coins ? Same algo as SolidCoin ?
Thank you !
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Can OP or anyone else who has a 7970 benchmark vanitygen? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25804.0You want to use oclvanitygen.exe It should only take a minute or two. Make sure the device you are going to use is not in use (if you are using cgminer you don't need to stop just (G)pu menu (D)isable, then GPU #) oclvanitygen -d 0 1Bitcoinz (0 = device # and the string is the address searching for 1Bitcoinz is impossibly long which prevent the generator from getting lucky too soon) Then just let it run for 30 seconds or so to normalize any variance. You should see a line like Difficulty: 50656515217834 [13.61 Mkey/s][total 1981808640][Prob 0.0%][50% in 29.9d] PRovide the MKey's and the core/mem clocks. Thanks Is there any table or something where we can see the performance for a 5870, 5970 etc. with Vanitygen ? Maybe we can add these results to that table / page ?
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Whoever he is, that guy outsmarted us all big time.
Having 1.5 MILLION BTC I find it hard to believe he is not the next digital Bernie !
It actually makes perfect sense. Control the biggest exchange so he can slowly cash out without us idiots noticing ?
Can anyone actually check how much coins he has and if they are spent etc. ?
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Even compared to FPGA which do exist the return isn't worth the risk. As a tech lover it sucks that cheapo CPU, cheapo RAM, usb stick, decent MB + lots of GPU = winz. As a capitalist I own 5 such rigs. I also am not just thinking of CURRENT FPGA but a year is a long time in silicon world. FPGA designs will only get more cost effective. 28nm chips likely will be reasonably available this year. Who knows what the pricing is but FPGA getting 25% or 50% higher efficiency (MH/$ and MH/W) is certainly a possibility. All that puts a damper on long payback periods on GPU tech. Do you have some pictures of your rigs, D&T ? I have great respect for you and your knowledge in all things mining !
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I dont think its possible on radeon 6 cards. You can underclock the ram only a few 100 MHz, as far as I know.
Serves the OP right for not doing his research. Only 5xxx series benefit from underclocking the RAM and other tweaks like SDK 2.1 6xxx series are to be avoided unless you can't get hold of any 5xxx cards.
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Still FPGA worry me for anything w/ a ROI beyond a year.
So I decided to run some more numbers, and found out just exactly how bad of an investment this could potentially be. So lets assume that IF a 7990 had 2 cores capable of 600 Mhash/s each at stock clocks, and IF they pulled the full maximum of 375 watts for a PCI Express card (2x 8pin @ 150watts each = 300 watts, plus 75 watts from the slot), and IF I could get all 18 slots populated and working with virtual machines or whatever technology, and IF it cost me a conservative estimate of $25,000........ .......that would mean numbers such as the following: 21.6Ghash/s per rig ~7500 watts power draw at the plug(s) (assuming 95% efficiency, which is more common in server-grade power supplies) 6-8 U rack spaces, depending on how it was architected. Now, if we assume for a moment that the BFL Rig Box exists and works at the numbers stated, that is as follows: ~$25,000 50 Ghash/s 2500 watts unknown rack spaces I suppose this serves to illustrate how badly FPGAs have the potential to kick whomp BLAST the ass of video cards into next week. Since my power is 9 cents kw/h, I decided to do an ROI calculation. For the custom monster machine with 18 video cards, ROI is slated to be ~250 days, assuming the difficulty and price remain the same (yeah right ). For the Rig box, it is 95 days. Of course, the video cards and waterblocks have known resale value, but damn.... less than 100 days. I STILL am not sure whether I want it to be true or not. EDIT: minor spelling corrections. Funny that some of you still think or dream about the 25K top grade unicorn being real. Getting 50 ghash/s with 32 singles at 800 mhash/s each does not compute. Probably will get only around 25 ghash/s in the end LOL and draw 10 000W. Paying $25k and getting 6 month warranty on a product that is TOTALLY USELESS outside of this community = too much risk for me. Maybe others can stomach that cost and risk etc. but not me. Good luck with your backplanes.
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I think it would be unfair on zhoutong if everybody started posting to get 1 BTC as he clearly stated the first 10 posts / people only Bitcoin : the cutting edge in digital begging technology ! Great work by zhoutong to restore the service after the downtime with the Redis servers !
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MagicalTux is Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. English speaker in Japan, who else would choose a Japanese name for a Pseudonym? Runs the big exchange and has extracted the forum from his former alias by "acquiring" it with MtGox...
When I tried to say that they all jumped "crazy" on me. Probably true. In the end we find out all this was the most elaborate P&D ponzi scheme rivaling Bernie. Quite strage to go from trading Pokemons to Bitcoins, don't you think ?
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"© 2013/2013 bitscalper.com"
Must be easy to auto trade when you're from the future.
LOL. On another note, it seems they are hosted in Germany ? http://bitscalper.com.hostlogr.com/
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gotta risk it to get the biscuit the real challenge will be seeing if I can get my money out of there I sure hope you lose all those IMHO if you are naive enough to give so many BTC to these scammers you 100% deserve it ! Well done bitscalper ! Still not enough to beat mybitcon though
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Might help if you say where you are located for others selling so as to determine things like shipping costs and escrow services.
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HTML editing or MtGox bug ? How can one have a negative USD balance ? Is MtGox now doing USD overdrafts or something ...
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Login does not work. I can't see anything LOL !
Does this crazy Russian really have 24 million USD ?
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Can you say scam / ponzi of the month ? January 2012 award goes to : ... BitScalper !!! Please explain how you make money and why you need the user's BTC and not just use your own BTC and that magical black box with 5% return
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Welcome back !
The SolidScam PR machine generator is back.
From now on, I bet we will be seeing the Alt currency forum being spammed with 20 daily anti-SC threads.
Great work promoting ScamCoin !
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Wow, you're going to have to use radiator surface the size of a football field Going with so many pumps, water blocks, all that watercooling stuff... I'm afraid even 20k$ might be a low estimate. Well my estimates were based on $650 6990s, $110 waterblocks, a $2000 host computing board, a $650 backplane, and six PSUs hopefully being less than $500 each. The unfortunate issue is that the manufacturers of the waterblocks don't publish technical specs such as flow rate at a certain pressure, recommended pressures, etc. so my numbers might be bad estimates. However, from my calulations, this radiator should be able to dissipate all the heat from 18x 6990s when used between 0 and 1 Bar of pressure, because it is rated at 10 horsepower heat dissipation at that pressure. Yeah I know it is an oil cooler, but there shouldn't be any reason for it not to work with glycol or similar. The heat dissipation table is on the catalog page at this link. You already started on the backplane project ? Did you buy a backplane already ?
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got all 4 2 days ago, will replace a few tonight.
Why bother with replacing fans and not get an aftermarket cooler ? Aftermarket cooler : -much cooler so more OC and stability -less noisy -easy to work on if fans die ( unlikely with aftermarket fans ) compared to hassle of stock cooler + fan
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80 PLUS TITANUIM certification has been released for 220V. It mandates that the PSU does not waste more than 4% power at 50% load. That's 96% efficiency. Whoever is able to get their design certified, will have to have cast insane amounts of magic putting that PSU together Link: http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspxWow, such PSUs might be perfect for my 18x 7990 rig, if anyone decides to make them. 18x? Yep - with watercooling, VT-d, and a few virtual machines, it *should* be possible. Take a look at this: http://www.chassis-plans.com/single-board-computer/S6806-backplane.htm240V is easier to make an efficient PSU out of, but 96% is totally awesome. Anyone wanna invest? Funnily enough I investigated these platforms with backplanes but nobody tried it and I don't wanna be the first either In theory it should make a hell of a mining farm !
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Even if these guys are 100% genuine it still does not change some vital facts one should consider when buying these unicorns : -almost 0 resale value ( even if they are the only ones like this and nobody comes out with a better sASIC, FPGA, ASIC ) -can't game on them -can't hack with them -6 month warranty only -still refuse to let us know what the tech behind the product is so we can know if these can be used to run an OS or other applications -can't mine LTC, SLC etc. Thank you and looking forward to some reviews and what is under that mysterious heatsink !
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As I said, what would you get if the only thing that mattered was MH/$ based on UK prices etc.
Importing from the US in bulk might be an option though.
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