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2261  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: July 01, 2014, 04:00:38 PM
It just keeps getting better and better------------  IRS Chief Admits: WH Wrong that Scandal Was Just 'Rogue Agents'
2262  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: July 01, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
Last year, over 3/4ths of the dog bite fatalities came via pit bulls or pit mixes-- yet they comprise only 6% of the dog population.

And anyone who tells you dogs cannot be bred for aggressiveness (or passivity) is an idiot who has never been around dog breeders-- if you look at all the different types of dogs there are, and where they came from, you realize how much genetics factors into it... including temperament. I am so tired of people who get more dog than they know how to control or have the ability to control. It's like they have something to prove or something. Well, don't go trying to prove it at others' expense...
2263  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: July 01, 2014, 03:00:12 PM
I would not order all existing, living pits to be put down...but why not a ban on breeding them?  If it could be enforced, that is, which I'm just not sure of.
Half the dogs involved in attacks that are labled "pitbull"  are actually NOT pitbulls.

This is a great topic.  Because if you are capable of believing that being a "pitbull" is reason for sterilization, or euthanization, or banning,  then you are no damn different from the Germans who threw those Jews into the gassing chambers,  or the Muzlims in Iraq who hang all homosexuals from construction cranes-----------  don't you get it?   ANY dog can be "bad",  just like any person.
I understand where you are coming from. I do.  But dogs are not people, and it is a fact that some breeds are aggressive.  When you pair aggressive breeding with that kind of power and tenacity, it can be very dangerous.  I see no problem with banning future breeding of pits, especially since in order to give every existing dog a home, each American would have to adopt 7. 
There's always something going wrong somewhere at any given moment....... so what? You're afraid of dogs and you want to kill some of them because of it. Or what ever is your motivation, as far as I'm concerned you are wrong.
2264  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: July 01, 2014, 12:57:45 PM
I would not order all existing, living pits to be put down...but why not a ban on breeding them?  If it could be enforced, that is, which I'm just not sure of.
Half the dogs involved in attacks that are labled "pitbull"  are actually NOT pitbulls.

This is a great topic.  Because if you are capable of believing that being a "pitbull" is reason for sterilization, or euthanization, or banning,  then you are no damn different from the Germans who threw those Jews into the gassing chambers,  or the Muzlims in Iraq who hang all homosexuals from construction cranes-----------  don't you get it?   ANY dog can be "bad",  just like any person.
2265  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: July 01, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
I've heard all the arguments here, and for a while we were fans of the Animal Planet shows that centered on pit rescues.  I'm an animal lover.  I just don't know that, at this point in the breed's history, if these aggressive traits can be successfully bred OUT of them.  The unpredictability is just too much of a risk.  Umair's description of Ontario's response seems reasonable to me.  Just does.  
I'm aware that you are generally an animal lover. Maybe after a few days would be a better time to broach this.

If a black teenager held you up and hit your daughter I suppose we would ban black teenagers from your village as well? jk   Sorry , but I will always have a hard time with this banning of breeds. If a person isn't able to handle the responsibility and care necessary then they should be held accountable, not the animal. Over the years I have been keenly aware of this 'breed banning' and the breed of the decade that seems to go with it. Doberman's were once a target, even German Sheperds, my beloved Rottweilers and of course the pit bull.

 Poodles are much nastier than a Rottweiler, in temperament, but they are so purdee so no one ever thinks to BAN them. Any dog is capable of biting, after all they are animals.........responsible dog owners, and laws governing those responsibilities seem to me to be the rational and intelligent choice.
2266  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: July 01, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
In Ontario where I am at the moment pit bulls are banned. If you owned one before the ban you can keep it but it cannot be outside even on your own property unless it is muzzled. If you take it for a walk it must be on a leash and muzzled. It has put an end to attacks and killings by pit bulls. Some may say that the government may be going to far but I support it. Nothing is too much when it come to protecting our children.
I'm leaning toward banning the breed.  Just too many horror stories for there to be no basis for it. 
Come on jackie, you too?  It's unfortunate that the little Chi-chi was manhandled by a pit bull but to ban a breed because it's strong? A pit bull is a dog. I'd be in favor of tough penalties for owners of dogs who allow them off leash anywhere off their own property. $1000 first offense, $5000 second offense and 1 year jail sentence on 3d offense?
2267  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The scandal of fiddled global warming data on: July 01, 2014, 11:14:32 AM
Driven by exceptionally warm ocean waters, Earth smashed a record for heat in May and is likely to keep on breaking high temperature marks, experts have said.

May’s average temperature on Earth of 15.54 degrees Celsius was the warmest since records began in 1880, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Last month was especially hot in parts of Kazakhstan, Indonesia, Spain, South Korea and Australia, while the United States was not close to a record, just one degree warmer than the 20th century average. However, California is having a record hot first five months of the year, a full 5 degrees above normal.

Kim Cobb, a climate scientist at Georgia Tech, said there is a good chance global heat records will keep falling, especially next year because an El Nino weather event is brewing on top of man-made global warming. An El Nino is a warming of the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean that alters climate worldwide and usually spikes global temperatures.

Ocean temperatures in May also set a record for the month. But an El Nino is not considered in effect till the warm water changes the air and that has not happened yet, NOAA said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/10921695/May-was-the-hottest-month-ever-for-Earth.html#disqus_thread

the thing is, this Global Warming bullshit is akin to a major religion, the faithful will NEVER renounce it, any more than Ms. Ibrahim would renounce Christianity to save her own life.

I hope one day to see AlGore hanged from a sour apple tree.
2268  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The scandal of fiddled global warming data on: July 01, 2014, 10:15:33 AM
I agree, if you have to fudge the data your theory isn't worth the time of day. And if your defense against anyone that doesn't 'buy your theory is to claim they are idiots who believe the world is flat then your theory isn't based on fact or that would be your defense. I believed in global warming because of what the media reported, then a couple of engineers I worked with told me to google the issue and find out the truth. What an eye opener that was. Follow the money, in this case its trillions of dollars and most of it ends up in the pockets of politicians and their rich friends.
That makes TWO groups that have been caught fudging the numbers and there are probably lots more.  It is a great hoax on the American people and just another way to extract taxes from them.  Soon we will have nothing left to live on.
2269  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate' on: June 30, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
Just wondering how one hateful muslim sect tells itself from another one.....do the Sunnis stone women with their left hand as opposed to the Shiites who stone with the right hand? Show me something positive about Islam, show me how they actually can help people and I might believe in their cause. But right now, to all the world and the people they are conquering, they are just bloodthirsty anarchists bent on destruction and murder and oppression. Islam is a "religion" of hate and destruction.
2270  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning on: June 30, 2014, 02:53:01 PM
Try to put yourself in the place of primitive, Middle eastern nomads 4000+ years ago.  Sitting at night tending your flock, lying back, staring at the majesty of the night sky.

Wouldn't it make you wonder?  Would you have made up magical beings or a magical being that created it all?

Well, that's what happened.  Not you of course, you probably don't have the imagination any way.
2271  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions on: June 30, 2014, 02:45:56 PM
OMG people are manipulated by other people. Isn't that something? Politicians do it, rich people do it, poor people do it and of course Facebook does it. So politicians feel they have a right to stop facebook. WHY?
2272  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 01:27:48 PM
The Jews aren't going anywhere and either are the Pals. They have to learn to live together or continue to die. When they finally get sick of burying their children they will make peace. Its as simple as that.
the only part of the Israel situation that is simple is your silly conception of it. Don't get mad at me because I have a better understanding
2273  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
yah big ole drama queen. If you think for a second that people are going to agree with you that Israel is the anti-Christ and the Pals innocent shepherds, my guess is that you're having hallucinations. Both sides have brought this upon themselves. since I'm the one suggesting the only practical solution: dissolving the state of Israel.

Do you have any objection to welcoming emigrating Israelis with immediate citizenship and generous resettlement packages?
No problemo, I welcome any and all..........just don't bring any ideas intent on selfish changing of America. Throw your Zionist crap in the dumpster before getting on the plane. Why, some fools may ask..............

If anyone would like to begin to understand, here is a piece I just ran across that may spark some thought. Keep in mind that the U.S. is party to all this

In Case You Missed It
The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
Translated and edited by Israel Shahak
The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33220.htm
2274  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 12:53:15 PM
the entire fucking world is tired of the U.S. giving Israel CarteBlanche protection to terrorize and murder a basically unarmed(in comparison) indigenous population. "enough blame on both sides"Huh who and what is that ludicrous statement for? I'll give you the benefit of doubt that it is little more than part of your little mind game you like to indulge in.
2275  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 12:51:35 PM
If you want peace, then open the crossings to Gaza and the villages all over the West Bank, put the guns in storage and move back to the 67 border lines and institute a true democratic governance. You can be as tired, as you want to be, but the fact remains that the Zionist right wing leaders  have created this atmosphere, and if they want peace it will be up to them to do the right thing. When you have all the guns it behooves you to behave. If the U.S. were to do the right thing, then they could walk in and demand the action necessary to facilitate a peaceful resolution. Again, it boils down to Israel's refusal to take the high road again, and again, and again. They do not want peace, they want the land, they want to realize their 'Greater Israel'
2276  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 12:02:24 PM
That's not fair or accurate, I have no desire to see more bloodshed anywhere. Israel is the occupier and oppressor here sana. Israel is the one committing a slow steady genocide against the Arab population. Just take the Gaza 2009 massacre, it was horror unmitigated crime against humanity. I'm sorry if I have no sympathy for the folks responsible. There are consequences for actions, and if you're so worried that the whole world would come down on Israel, well I guess they should have been a little more diplomatic and humane from the start instead of attacking, murdering, destroying and stealing..............all while oppressing the Arabs to the extreme.

It's too late for your MMQ theatrics. Israel does not deserve anyone's support or approval. The government of Israel is a terrorist entity. To be a prime minister even, you need to have terrorist credentials man! Your ideas are pipe dreams now, it has gone way to far.
2277  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: June 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
The problem with pit bulls is a lot in their breeding.  Many people have no idea of what they are doing when they breed one dog to another.  They are breeding ones with the aggressive stain to another with an aggressive strain without ever bothering to check pedigrees.  Some people are dumb enough to even breed brother and sister. The very good breed has been destroyed and it is time to say no more pit bulls.  To own one will require a special license and a yard that the dog cannot get out of and a signed statement that they will be held accountable for all actions of their pit bull.

  These dogs are very popular with drug runners as they protect their stash.  The owners will intentionally make them more aggressive protect their stash and they don't care about worrying about such things as temperament while breeding..
2278  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 11:48:29 AM
Israel has fallen into the hands of the rightwing. Why would you expect me to support the sort of behavior that goes on in Israel?  countenance the sort of politics that so many religious parties in Israel are imposing not only on Palestinians, but on Israelis themselves? Because of Israel's Parliamentary sytem, the minority religious parties wield a disproportionate power in their ability to make or break a coalition since none of the major parties wins outright majorities. And they wield that power with a vengeance reminiscent of their OT Jehovah. Their behavior in office is akin to imposition of Islamic sharia-law, and they are asking the same sort of authority in Israel that the mullahs enjoy in Iran.

I understand why so many of the rightwingers support Israel--they need the Red Cow found (hence the attempts at breeding the same by the Texan rancher), so they can build the Third Temple, because not until the Third Temple is built and destroyed can Christ return. So they certainly don't mind the repressive theocracy that the extremist Jewish religious parties are imposing. How you can justify it, though, is beyond me.

Nor does your pipe dream of the two peoples living together have the chance of a snowball in hell. Resources are too scarce, Palestinian birthrates too high, Israel can't afford either a unitary state or a two state solution.

My solution is best--by now it should be evident to you that I'm almost always right, and I am in this situation too. Open emigration, immediate citizenship and generous resettlement packages to any Israelis who wish to leave Israel and raise their children in peace and quiet. The dissolution of the state of Israel and its replacement by an autonomous Jewish territory for the small portion of Israelis who choose to remain, guaranteed by the UN and, if necessary, US power.
Sana, what makes you think we need to provide a solution for either of their existence? I would propose that we cut Israel free and stop spending billions of tax dollars to support their criminal activities. Leave them to their wants..........
2279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why has the left wing abandoned Israel? on: June 30, 2014, 11:38:06 AM
stories are sometimes invented to make the Palestinians look bad, and countless Israeli crimes are swept under the rug or flatly denied if they happen to get out.
As usual if anyone dares to disagree with "the truth will set you free"
then if your interest is piqued maybe you'll read another one, and then maybe you'll realize why most of the world looks down on Israel's behavior. Of course this is only if you are truly interested in learning more than the pro Israel propaganda we get in the msm here.
I criticize false declarations and try to put real rebuttals out. Not opinions, facts
2280  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: June 30, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
As I said sting, it's complicated.  The homeowner is a friend and neighbor, and he's unwell and terribly upset over this.  The dog is his stepson's.  The dog is vaccinated; she determined that.  She and her husband are seeking remuneration through his homeowner's ins.   

Still, she is being encouraged (by everyone including me) to have animal control take control of the dog but she's reluctant to do it...frankly she's not using the best judgement right now, she's so distracted.  I'm hoping she'll change her mind.  The public needs to be protected from this animal.    Maybe she'll come to that. 
Make sure your daughter calls animal control. That dog should be picked up and quarantined for observation... plus, doing that causes the owner big $$ to get it back (at least it does here) and their homeowner's insurance should be contacted for her bills (that will also put pressure on them to put the monster down, their rates will go sky high). I know it won't save her poor pup, but it might save someone else's -- or a neighborhood kid.
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