@dooglus - both you and TSP are the only one's in this thread claiming that I am QS. You are not the same person as TSP are you?
Really  This who last few pages is hilarious. I'd go out on a limb on this one and say the chances of Dooglus being TSP are about as good as QS not being Panther52. I totally agree.  Else QS wouldn't be pretending he was banned. Edit: and panthers wouldn't be trying to change his style every now and then. Check this post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1167947.msg12300600#msg12300600No "@insert_name_here". He quotes it. He uses ">" to refer to a part. Uses both bullets AND numbers... It is kind of obvious. @BayAreaCoins- do you have any IP evidence of this? lol, IP can be easily masked.  I am reasonably certain QS's alts cannot be connected in blockchain or by looking at IP addresses (assuming he didn't want his alts known). |
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Price at $240. Goes in line with the poll result.  <200 - 7 (18.4%) 210 - 2 (5.3%) 220 - 2 (5.3%) 230 - 11 (28.9%) 240 - 6 (15.8%) >250 - 10 (26.3%) Weight Price Votes 2 200 7 2800 1.5 210 2 630 1 220 2 440 1 230 11 2530 1.5 240 6 2160 2 250 10 5000 9 38 237.8947368 |
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Why is the "Current Bitstamp price $xxx USD/BTC" on the front page always off by like $30?
Been wondering that myself too But it is a good gambling game and I might put some of my bets soon. Yeah, something like $260. Not sure it is running or not at the moment  Edit: Corrected to real price. Dang! should have bet down.  |
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edit: to give a concrete example, at BitDice you would get 4x bigger edge based on these calculations, but the bankroll is also more than 4x bigger.. so if the wagered amount is the same, you probably make more at MP.
Although another interesting point is, that if the bankroll of MP gets bigger, not only you get diluted but the house edge for investors will most likely go down unless players start playing higher stakes too.
I often get asked about what is the "best" casino investment available. And last time I compared the stats alone, it seemed like bitdice.me was hands down a better investment. But I do kind of feel that people who want to know the best investment are asking the wrong question, the better question is "Is this investment worth it?" and if it is, investing only a small fraction of their total investing bankroll. An investor who diversifies over a bunch of good investments will out-perform (as measured by expected bankroll growth) an investor who goes all-in on great investments (...which funnily enough takes us back the kelly). Yes, that is true. I think even after they change it to 0.2% of every roll, they would be still 1st, or at worst 2nd. Moneypot is #4th on my list.  |
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The site is put up in auction though... Goodbye Dadice
Where is the link ? i will buy 10 BTc ........ You can't buy it for 10 BTC, the min starting bid is 300 BTC, and there are probably already some bids in progress. Yeah, minimum bid is 300 BTC. They did spend quite a lot for development, designing and marketing. If they won't sell it to me they will forced to close the site .... No player interesting to play on Dadice ......... BTC wins are 2-3 BTc each day ..... House edge is 1% So income of Dadice is 0.02 BTC per day ........ ( 300/0.02 ) = 15000 days is needed to backing your money ......... agree to this, if they ask to much for the site (300btc) i think it will be near impossible for someone to buy the site specially if they have negative reputation for some people here in the forum and IF i have plan on running a dice site, i can better be look for new dev and pay him 20btc just to make a cool unique dice site instead of buying dadice You are looking at payout, not wagered. Daily wagered varies from 1 BTC to 300 BTC. Just wait for a highroller to be active. The recent drop from 5-25 is because of QS's allegations. The new owner can make the address public if he so wishes. Total wagered : 11,799.0956 BTC at the moment. Days active : March 1 to September 9th = 31 + 30 + 31 + 30 + 31 + 31 + 9 = 193 days. Average daily wagered : 61.1352103627BTC.Average daily rolls : 4,676,577 Understand that the initial months did not have much turnover. Da Dice is rapidly growing, and should have been #2 or #3 had the unfortunate incidents not happened. Cheers ndnhc P.S. 300 BTC is fair price. Look at the value and the potential, which makes it worth much more than that. It is what real investors and buyers look at. A month ago, our total wagered amount was higher than Moneypot's entire wagered amount. Not true anymore, because of those few who try to being down DD. It is very unlikely that the new owners will be facing such issues. Even if the new owners reduce the marketing expenditure by a large portion, the existing owners have already done most of the part. Most of the interested active members are already aware of Da Dice. It is quite a fair price if you look it from every angle, and consider all the pros and cons. You can see that none of the cons will be going on post-sale, and the new management is free to revamp the concepts as they choose. |
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I don't see how escrowing for himself would be a scam, unless he's tacking on an extra escrow fee and making the other party pay it. Even then there would be much more effective ways to scam such as, well, simply walking away with the entire escrow amount. From the outside it might seem a little shady, but you have to consider the fact that he's a highly trusted member and very effective scam-buster. As such it's only natural that he would make a lot of enemies from people whose intentions may not be totally above-board to begin with. So if, for instance, QS saw a deal for widgets in the Marketplace section that he couldn't pass up, but he knew that ordering widgets would potentially expose him to the sort of people previously referred to, it's only logical that he might use an alt to abstract himself.
tspacepilot, I like you, man. I think you bring to the forum a certain level of quality and content that most users sorely lack. Furthermore, I do not think QS's rating for you is totally necessary. However, I feel that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, so to speak. As I've said before, I'd rather have a few people butthurt than 10 times as many scammed.
So basically I'd file this accusation in the "big flippin deal" bucket.
Using himself an escrow totally beats the purpose of using an escrow. It is not like he is the only escrow in the entire forum. If I am dealing with Quickseller, I would use escrow. Now he suggest someone who is himself, which I didn't know then, and the deal goes through, I would feel myself cheated. It is not considered to be okay. He can use make deals with people, use himself as escrow. completely okay?.. till the day he decides to scam everyone and leave the forum? Quickseller's own arguments say that past performance of anyone is no guarantee to what anyone will do in the future. Escrowing to himself is no escrow at all. If the other party wanted an escrow, and he uses himself, that would be kind of a breach of trust. All this is, ignoring that he got a fee and a trust feedback for this, which makes things even more worse. As I've said before, I'd rather have a few people butthurt than 10 times as many scammed. It is very well the other way round. I would like to suggest this: Any party whose reputation is damaged by Quickseller resulting in a loss of any kind or that costed the party a significant amount of time and eventually this particular party is proved reasonably innocent of the accusation, he/she should be compensated by QS for any loss he/she has suffered including opportunity cost. (i.e. the party should be able to claim a reasonably amount of damages from Quickseller) |
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QS wants everyone to think Panthers52 is his alt In that case he's doing a very good job. Seems to me the next question is whether escrowing for yourself under an alt is a scam. I think it is. Especially if a fee was involved and the other party is kept in the dark. |
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QS wants everyone to think Panthers52 is his alt I frankly don't get it. What is the QS drama about? Edit: LOL. QS very likely is. |
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About the hashing.. I.. I don't get how it makes a difference. Kindly explain in detail for me if you will.
Well, is it possible for you to change the text file i.e. re-upload a different file but with the same link? If so, provably fair would mean using that. If not, I think quoting the OP would suffice. I still haven't found a solution that could avoid a situation in which you could win yourself. May be let escrow upload everything and give you the links? lol, it is something to think about, but right now, I am really busy. |
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I think DaDice is wasting its time with this auction thread.
300BTC is an absurd starting price for a site which still has not disclosed its NET MONTHLY PROFITS.
Are there even profits?
Could you provide some information about the net profit and the set amount of Bitcoin from March to August?
Hi, All the details will be shared with potential buyers. |
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Personally, I am completely fine with current one, and any of the two would make me not very comfortable with juggling between boards. This Gambling Discussion sub-board will be inside the Gambling board, which is inside the Marketplace section under the Economics category? It is fine with me if that is added as an additional board in the Marketplace board (as suggested), but please don't put it as a subsection inside the Gambling board. |
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ndnhc's advices. 1. Use an escrow. Details: Get an escrow, transfer funds to be held with him as long as it is running. Funds should be a reasonable amount. 2. Lower the fee. A 5% is good enough. The lower the better 3. Make the game provably fair. Details: You can hash the url of the winning satoshibox link or the number or both with random characters to avoid players brute-forcing it, using a one-way hashing function like SHA256, publish the hash before the game. When the winner is announced you will have to publish the message you hashed. Illustration: Your winning box is 102 http://satoshibox.com/55eae63WRFQWFe12fb6b456cYou hash 102:http://satoshibox.com/55eae63WRFQWFe12fb6b456c:randomtextndnhc using SHA256. You get e2ce2bf3a310658c603b92202e2819d2a319cc674bcd97d14b95c54bf530ba0f which you publish before the game, and the initial message after the game is over and the winner is declared. Thanks That would be 0.025 BTC. Not intended to be taken seriously. |
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H positive. That is for hobbits. |
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Could you provide some information about the net profit and the set amount of Bitcoin from March to August?
If you are an interested buyer, you can get all the details directly. From https://stats.dadice.com/. Overall Statistics TOTAL ROLLS: 875,074,185 TOTAL MEMBERS: 18,578 AVERAGE DAILY ROLLS: 4,654,650 TOTAL WAGERED: 11795.55850097 BTC TOTAL PAYOUT: 11713.79197539 BTC CURRENT BANKROLL: 931.0949 BTC REVENUE: 81.76652558 BTC * All data is real-time. I don't have that data. Please wait. Thanks |
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I was quite sure before but this unexpected proof and different writing style is confusing me, and TBH I don't think QS actually would do something to extent his ban. Thats too stupid, even for QS
Okay. So how would you explain the PGP key? Someone else couldn't have done that. Yeah thats what my logic is telling as well. NVM me thats just me getting confused. keybase.io hacked? |
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Aye, as far as I know, bitstarz is legit. T&C apply. |
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I was quite sure before but this unexpected proof and different writing style is confusing me, and TBH I don't think QS actually would do something to extent his ban. Thats too stupid, even for QS
Okay. So how would you explain the PGP key? Someone else couldn't have done that. He talks like QS. right now after 3 posts, I am pretty sure it is him. PGP key proves that too. Only, I wasn't sure when I saw the first post, because that was not like him (he was probably annoyed or irritated), but the way the link to the post was added in the PGP signed message, I could pretty well say it is Quickseller. |
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Can some one tell how the trust system works here, I see things like:
124: -0 / +16
? ??: -1 / +4
8: -0 / +1
-62: -6 / +2
What does these numbers mean?
Also what are different colors[green,light green,red,orange etc.] for?
Called marketplace trust score. Simply speaking, higher the number the more trustworthy the person is (supposed to be. Always use escrow while trading even if you see a dark green 500 as trust feedback. Some accounts are being bought and sold, so always be on the safe side. it is only an indicator. Click on the trust link, and the feedbacks usually are more important than the score) Red is bad, Green is good. Everything is in the thread link Patejl gave. Welcome to bitcointalk.  |
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Verified scam attempt. Buyer doesn't even get a password, just a random number, lol. Screenshots provided by ZonedOutSpace.   @hilariousandco thanks |
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