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1901  Economy / Gambling / Re: ☼ ☁ Weathbet.com ☁ ☼ - Bet on weather condition ✺ NEW ✺ BTC, LTC, DOGE on: September 18, 2015, 12:55:45 PM
This discussion is not off-topic as I am discussing about a term in their site which is wringly place, as for your arguments.
Forget I said SHA256 I meant hash. What you seem to take as Provably Fair is just verifiying of bets not Provably Fair, or you should name every sports betting site as Provably site. And provably fair is supposed to be a verification as in, the result was in some server but encrypted so as not to cause player to change his bet, and should be totally random, but weather is not AFAIK fitting in any of them, ok maybe some randomess but not as much as Provably fair provides.


Even if I am wrong (I am sure I am not), everyone can have their own interpretations. Provably fair describes it better than any other word does. There is nothing wrong there and I see no need to change it to something vague and confusing.
1902  Economy / Gambling / Re: Magicaldice.com | Officially Launched | Bitcoin Dice Website | Fancy Rolling on: September 18, 2015, 12:47:37 PM

Haha, not even a bit funny.

Hey, I was serious there. I personally prefer a win-win situation, than a bigwin-lose situation. Smiley
1903  Economy / Gambling / Re: Magicaldice.com | Officially Launched | Bitcoin Dice Website | Fancy Rolling on: September 18, 2015, 12:15:26 PM
If you have any cool ideas for another competition we could do, be sure to let us know Tongue

Most loss contest? Smiley


How about 200% of the loss back? Grin
1904  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats on: September 18, 2015, 12:04:08 PM
To be honest, when it is not provably fair there is no way anyone knows what is really happening...

May be they are, may be they aren't. My advice is for Blackjack (and Roulette, etc.) please stick to provably fair sites as far as possible.
1905  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 18, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
The real reason why Investor-based games board was made was to move all those ponzis into it, wait.. wait.. and then BAN! Grin
1906  Other / Off-topic / Re: Skype : Can't view conversations beyond 1 month. Any way to get them? on: September 18, 2015, 11:34:04 AM
Anyone here works for NSA?
1907  Other / Off-topic / Re: Skype : Can't view conversations beyond 1 month. Any way to get them? on: September 18, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Well you got the answer in your own question bud, sorry but no way to recover it AFAIK, maybe the more technical people can help you with it

NSA must have a copy anyway. I don't think the odds are that they will share it.. Sad




If you have not previously set it to save conversations for longer than a month, then it won't have. Always save important conversations in logs for later retrieval.

I wouldn't suggest Skype for any sort of business deals, though that is just me. The program is extremely insecure and can cause you problems should you not protect yourself adequately.

I know, Skype is a really stupid software. I wasn't using it a few months ago, but lately I had to. The only thing I see good with it, it is very simple and easy to use. Well, if I can't even check what happened a month ago (I thought that was why people use these things so that they won't forget. Now Skype forgets things faster than I do..) it isn't worth it.

Do you know any safe alternatives? Does Google Hangouts store messages older than a year?
1908  Economy / Gambling / Re: ☼ ☁ Weathbet.com ☁ ☼ - Bet on weather condition ✺ NEW ✺ BTC, LTC, DOGE on: September 18, 2015, 11:21:03 AM

I know what provable and fair mean, but collectively they belong as a kind of copyright term which means only SHA256 verification of bets, not something that can be verifiable after making the bets.
They should use the term "Provable" or "fair" or "Provable and fair".
Quote
ProvablyFair.org - © Copyright Leech Software.com 2015

huh? Copyright term? LMAO Tongue


So if I used SHA512 instead it is no longer provably fair, right?


It is only what it does, mate. I think this discussion is off-topic. The spcific system you are referring to is not implementable in these cases.

Take Weathbets. There are two cases:
1. Weathbets does not provide a source for temperature, wind speed and atm presure data. It is possible to make a win lose, and the other way round. This is what is meant by not being provably fair.
2. Weathbets provide a source for the result of the bets. The source is independent and an official one. So the player can check whether the wind speed is correct or whatever and verify his bets. This is what is referred to as being provably fair.

Which means Weathbets is provably fair, as each of the bets can be verified, and OP cannot change the result of a bet.


Thanks Smiley
ndnhc
1909  Economy / Gambling / Re: ☼ ☁ Weathbet.com ☁ ☼ - Bet on weather condition ✺ NEW ✺ BTC, LTC, DOGE on: September 18, 2015, 11:00:32 AM
Welcome back weathbet, gonna do some betting here and I think its gonna be a lot better than sports betting.
But I think you may need to correct this:
Quote
Weathbet is provably fair?
Yes
I think you guys are confusing Fair with Provably fair with the latter meaning Verification using Sha256 which I'm pretty sure the site doesnt provide.
Anyway good luck with the site


Provably fair, means fairness is provable. One way hashing algorithms like SHA256 are one way of doing it (which is not possible in sports betting nor in this case).

tl;dr Weathbet.com is provably fair.  Cool
You should try a google mate: http://dicesites.com/provably-fair
http://provablyfair.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18rh3v/how_does_provably_fair_gambling_work/
To end it, provably fair is a completely different thing than being able to verify your bets, it is a "system" and weathbet hasn't implemented it.

Or

Take a dictionary and look up what is meant by "provable" and what is meant by "fair". Link them up to find out what "provably fair" is. Cheesy

lol, so for sportsbook or weathbet, how do they know what to hash it with? The outcome is verifiable, and out of control of OP, so it qualifies for the terminology to be used.  Cool



Edit: From your first link. "Provably fair is a tool that enables you (the player) to verify each roll result and make sure you are not being cheated!" It is what it does.
1910  Economy / Gambling / Re: Luckybit.xyz gambling,Random,fair,bitcoin wallet direct to play on: September 18, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
I hardly notice a difference. Maybe time to upgrade your PC?

This is really lame imo. At least the Flappy Bit version had a different design/multipliers. This is just a cheap copy.

My PC is top-notch. 2nd fastest super-computer.  Cool

It took me 0.0002 milliseconds to load luckyb.it while it took me only 0.0001 milliseconds to load this one. (That is half!) And the CPU usage for the luckyb.it was 0.0000000029045% while for this one it was 0.0000000009095% (that is 1//3rd)  Shocked



I win. =D
1911  Economy / Gambling / Re: Luckybit.xyz gambling,Random,fair,bitcoin wallet direct to play on: September 18, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
LMAO!!!  Cheesy Cheesy

Site loads faster than the original though. Low CPU usage indeed. Smiley
1912  Economy / Gambling / Re: ☼ ☁ Weathbet.com ☁ ☼ - Bet on weather condition ✺ NEW ✺ BTC, LTC, DOGE on: September 18, 2015, 10:26:41 AM
Welcome back weathbet, gonna do some betting here and I think its gonna be a lot better than sports betting.
But I think you may need to correct this:
Quote
Weathbet is provably fair?
Yes
I think you guys are confusing Fair with Provably fair with the latter meaning Verification using Sha256 which I'm pretty sure the site doesnt provide.
Anyway good luck with the site


Provably fair, means fairness is provable. One way hashing algorithms like SHA256 are one way of doing it (which is not possible in sports betting nor in this case).

tl;dr Weathbet.com is provably fair.  Cool
1913  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [LuckyB.it] - Tournament Supreme! - KIALARA PRIZE - Registration OPEN on: September 18, 2015, 07:21:38 AM
ndnhc

1LWtZsYMNCuEn5TmawNGPHmu2W3udrYeWK Cheesy
1914  Other / Meta / Re: Why is non-consensual release of personal information allowed? on: September 18, 2015, 07:06:10 AM
Absolutely no idea. If i was admin, I would be banning anyone who tried to Dox anyone and all scammers I can get my hands on. Grin
1915  Other / Meta / Re: I have a proposal to vary the trust system that is used here. on: September 18, 2015, 06:58:35 AM
I couldn't really distinguish which was which. All were dark colors. Wink

How about 0: -0 / +0  [1] for someone in level 1 trust list? Just saying..



Trust:    0: -0 / +0

The person I have placed on my untrusted list manually eg ~UserXNameHere gets a different colour (say) purple

Trust:    0: -0 / +0

While someone on the default trust gets another colour again, say brown

Trust:    0: -0 / +0

which would then give our three users distinct markers

  • Trust:    0: -0 / +0
  • Trust:    0: -0 / +0
  • Trust:    0: -0 / +0

1916  Economy / Gambling / Re: DontPlayHere Dice site (0.3% house edge) on: September 18, 2015, 05:41:29 AM
0.5% 3 hours ago, 0.3% now...

0.2% drop in edge every 3 hours!!  Grin


For sure i will not play at this shit dice site that stupid script again and again, you think gambling business is very to run at any free script, that script don't have any special feature to attract players to play at this poor site so think deeply and be serious about business.

sure i will invest thousands in coding to add alot of whistles and bells that you like to get you in.
Raise the house edge to 1% because that investment has to be earned back from you.
DontPlayHere!

I really got to agree that one is a funny name. Cheesy
1917  Other / Off-topic / Skype : Can't view conversations beyond 1 month. Any way to get them? on: September 18, 2015, 05:20:15 AM
I am not able to view conversations older than 1 month.

All the information is important, and I want to view it. But I can't. Nor is the guy on the other end.


Is there any way to get it back? It is not stored anywhere?


Edit:

Quote
Your conversation history is stored on Skype's cloud for 30 days; however, you can set your computer to save your chat history for longer, if you want. Learn how to change your chat history settings.

It is lost Huh
1918  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Gen Social Gambling Dice Experience | Progressive Jackpot on: September 18, 2015, 05:02:20 AM
How stupid does DaDice think people are?  What's more likely?


DaDice sold the site for 300 BTC, but can't afford to honor the promotion done on their watch and that the new owner bought the site for 300 BTC and his first act is to screw the players for the promotional money

or

They are faking a sale to create new bitcointalk accounts without the red negative reputation and weasel their way out of their obligations.


 Roll Eyes

That is not how things are. The buyer and seller have their own reasons not to.

I can't discuss it atm.
1919  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [NEW] [Da Dice] Roll Prediction Contest! | 2 BTC in PRIZES! | Get in While u Can on: September 18, 2015, 04:46:05 AM
Just so that you know what happened exactly:
The contest was approved by the original owner, and there was no plan to sell the site at that time, either. I did not act beyond my authority and all info. including the prize amounts were discussed before opening the thread. Da Dice was sold to a new owner. In effect the responsibility for honoring all contests were of course passed on to the buyer. The responsibility for all expenses were passed on to the buyer. Only this particular contest was denied AFAIK on the grounds that he was not aware of it?! lol, I thought this thread was public.
IMO, 1.85BTC (I was 4th  Grin) is more deserved than the roll ones.
It is quite beyond me why he would refuse to honor this. Huh It was actually expected for him to honor, as no one would really mess the things up after buying it for a fraction of the amount..
I will talk to this guy. But no guarantees.
I apologize for dragging you into this.
Have a nice day.
ndnhc

Finally some sentences from you, ndnhc.
No need to apologize on your side, you managed the contest and now stand in the crossfire between the old and the new owners.
I'm sorry for that. Further, since you yourself entered also...
But someone has to stand up and pay for this contest, for the sake of Dadice.
Seeing that the deal went down at around 300BTC, there surely is a contract, didn't things like that get settled in it?


I really wasn't expecting this either. I have no idea why someone would not spend 2BTC to protect their own 300BTC investment.  Roll Eyes
1920  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Gen Social Gambling Dice Experience | Progressive Jackpot on: September 18, 2015, 04:31:46 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1156642.msg12453831#msg12453831


hiks...the reward for contest not credited yet..

does it still valid? because dadice change the owner...T_t..but why ndhc advertise the contest?

The new owner agreed to honor those contests. (No guarantees)
Anyway, expect a delay.



Lol, guys, maybe it is time for all of you to open your eyes. The odds that the site is really sold are extremely low.

Tongue

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