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1661  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you wear underwear? on: October 12, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
You would probably not love it anymore when you have your dick zipped up in your jeans .Trust me its Painful!

pro tip: stop wearing jeans.  Cool
1662  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Make a 150% profit in your financial investment in one night on: October 12, 2015, 06:21:46 PM
Wow. *facepalms*

Scammers are getting lazy these days. Smiley




Even if OP offers to make the transfer first.

Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks. Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.

This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.

Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Bank transfers (ACH, etc.) except wire transfers
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)
1663  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ Ralobot.com | World's first blockchain Game | Pure fairness! | Big rewards ★ on: October 12, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Uh oh.. I reloaded and the deposit address changed Huh

it is now removed



Edit: Looks like you already sent 1 mBTC to the old one. Since no bet can be placed would the amount go back to the address it came from?


Edit2: Edited to remove the address since I am closing my browser. Send it to 1LWtZsYMNCuEn5TmawNGPHmu2W3udrYeWK (so that I can check it out using my own wallet instantly when I am online) if you wish.
1664  Economy / Gambling / Re: •••• COINICHIWA • SUPER FAST ROLLS • 1% EDGE • JACKPOT •••• on: October 12, 2015, 05:27:20 PM
Deposit at your own risk.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1205917.0 Valid/Wait till support responds or the issue gets resolved.

The text against the withdrawal option states:
0.0001 BTC will be deducted from the amount you type for use as a transaction fee. Withdraws are processed not till all your deposits have 4 confirmations.

Due to malleability attack, if a duplicate transaction is generated, one of them will NOT confirm and you will not receive any withdrawals then on. That is unless the site owners manually do it which is very unlikely considering that OP has not been inactive for a long time.
1665  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: COINICHIWA = SCAM!?!? on: October 12, 2015, 05:20:55 PM

Nobody will ever receive them, because some deposits were fake txès due to malleability issue. Look closely, I have tx`s with 0 confs. ALL deposits must be confirmed to get your cashouts. But those tx's don't exist anymore.


After lot of hardwork, I found the deposit and withdrawal buttons. Grin



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0.0001 BTC will be deducted from the amount you type for use as a transaction fee. Withdraws are processed not till all your deposits have 4 confirmations.

You are right. The withdrawal wouldn't work unless they do it manually.
1666  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CEG5952/xarca/poeEDgar farming trust, faking trades and claiming multipel giveaw on: October 12, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
I would then recommend you make a new thread and ask Bitcoin experts if those two addresses are part of the same wallet and what that actually means, and then you should be able to determine for yourself how likely it is that they are the same person. To me its pretty clear that these accounts are the same person however you need to be able to understand the evidence to determine that for yourself. I don't see how you can say it isn't strong evidence when you clearly do not understand it.

I am not stupid.  Roll Eyes

Does not support accusation:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/008079b36d4fdaef/addresses

As you can see those 3 addresses are in the same wallet.


Supports the accusation:



If you look at the above timeline then you will see that poeEDgar signed a message from his address which shows the addresses are not part of some kind of service or website.

Yes, I noticed. poeEDgar controls the address in question.
1667  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CEG5952/xarca/poeEDgar farming trust, faking trades and claiming multipel giveaw on: October 12, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
It doesn't work. My bitcoin address shows as part of https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/MtGoxAndOthers Tongue

Maybe rely on sensible sites?

This is kind of offtopic. I would recommend you make a new thread fi you want to ask how to determine if two addresses are in the same wallet. The website does work.

https://blockchain.info/tx/18889c17d0e46e5323699a97b3d195a3905dfb327c0aade66cbc0550591f4693

This tx shows  1D2vzaHSedPqRuwMaHQHGsdgBgMQoyeshd (poedgar) and 1CzG3gGAkSy1Tpq4SDbQRF1bP8AVH3r2bg are in the same wallet.

https://blockchain.info/tx/0d399b5c652c65b62b6c141943a52b5d5e694a98fe5ee8b7d2cce2523eebdc11

This tx shows 1CzG3gGAkSy1Tpq4SDbQRF1bP8AVH3r2bg and 1GFLGFz7c9GE8ZGffZ6xS3Wp3crQyyLLvH (habeler) are in the same wallet


hehe, yeah may be. Cheesy

Well, all the few addresses I checked showed some weird wallet (most often MtGoxandothers) may be because sharedcoin transactions distorted the data.


But still I am not sure that presents a strong evidence to support the accusation.
1668  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CEG5952/xarca/poeEDgar farming trust, faking trades and claiming multipel giveaw on: October 12, 2015, 11:49:00 AM
I didn't quite get it. Any hints?

...all of those addresses belong to the same Bitcoin wallet ...

tx?

1D2vzaHSedPqRuwMaHQHGsdgBgMQoyeshd has just 2 transactions.

This website groups addresses into wallets:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/008079b36d4fdaef/addresses

As you can see those 3 addresses are in the same wallet.


It doesn't work. My bitcoin address shows as part of https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/MtGoxAndOthers Tongue

Maybe rely on sensible sites?
1669  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CEG5952/xarca/poeEDgar farming trust, faking trades and claiming multipel giveaw on: October 12, 2015, 11:37:26 AM
I didn't quite get it. Any hints?

...all of those addresses belong to the same Bitcoin wallet ...

tx?

1D2vzaHSedPqRuwMaHQHGsdgBgMQoyeshd has just 2 transactions.
1670  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: October 12, 2015, 11:08:33 AM
So even at 98% the whole balance getting eaten 3 times out of 100 seems to be worth the risk with those multipliers Smiley

Unfortunately, no.

A 98% bet would only have a multiplier of 1.0102x. So with  a rakeback of 0.05% would make its EV is still -0.95%. Not worth it (to make bets simply because it has rakeback, I mean)


Edit: lol. he was faster. Cheesy

Anyway, those who understand how house edge works will refrain from betting at 98% chance.
For a player who makes 50 bets, there will be 49 wins and 1 loss. That is a net loss of 0.5 BTC. While if you were playing at say 100x the other way, it would be around ~<0.01 BTC

It doesn't make sense unless you have some super positive EV wagering competition going on.
1671  Other / Meta / Re: is it fair? on: October 12, 2015, 10:45:35 AM
I think goose made a pretty good arguement in support of buying accounts with preexisting trust:
I remember having an argument discussion with a good friend 6 or so months ago about the buying and selling of accounts on here. He seeing no issues with it, and me dead against it. He is a succussful businessman and likened it to goodwill of a business when that business is sold. Although that goodwill was built by the previous owner it still survives in the business under the new owner and is valued with a considerable premium and so on... I likened it to a personal credit rating - it is a rating for that person alone, it cannot be traded and should not be traded and so on.

--snip--

I think comparing account trust to a company's goodwill is pretty weak too. I like his comparison better.

Companies goodwill is not defined by the biggest stakeholder, at least for the most part.
As opposed to account trust which is worth nothing more than whoever holds it.

 

I agree. A company is a separate legal entity while a forum account is certainly not.
Moreover, we have a legal system to protect against using the reputation of a company for malicious purposes, while it mostly becomes unenforceable and impractical (to a significant degree) in case of forum accounts. (Relative anonymity, near zero chance of claiming damages etc.)

I think it is only fair to remove previous trust feedbacks if an account changes hands (at least when the community comes to know about it).
1672  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 12, 2015, 10:35:46 AM
How I can turn off the sound? I can't find option =//

sound? we have no sound.

[img.]http://s019.radikal.ru/i623/1510/9b/78d0f20a860a.jpg[/img]

I already have found it Cheesy

That is scrollback's (third party chat application). Secondstrade has no sound.
1673  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What is considered a "Constructive Post" on Signature Campaigns? on: October 09, 2015, 02:54:35 PM
This is kind of subjective.
I'd like to know what Signature Campaign managers consider to be a constructive post.
Is it a topic that gets lots of replies?
Is it a simple answer to another member's question?
What are the guidelines for a Constructive Post?

Any useful post is a constructive post.

They should not be against the forum rules, should be relevant to the topic, reasonably understandable, should contribute something to the overall discussion or conversation, contain helpful info, etc. etc.

Repeating the same answers to a question in the OP already answered may not be seen as constructive or contributing to the discussion.
1674  Economy / Services / Re: 100[btc] Bounty on: October 09, 2015, 05:27:44 AM
This makes some sense, but my worry is, initially it was only 20 btc, yesterday when i opened the thread it was 205, now its 246, why are bitcoins still being sent to the wallet? I have 2fa for the wallet. I just dont understand what the guy is doing. He has not blocked me from contact and generally answers  my chats, but am wondering why he is so calm when 246 bitcoins are lying in that wallet nd he may never have access to them, i dont know if im missing something

As already said by others, it is a watch-only address (can you check whether it actually is?) and the address is controlled by some other guy (not you, not him). Why do you bother if he mines them Huh
Those bitcoins aren't his, so why should he be worried?

You got to understand what private key is lol. Cheesy


There are no outgoing even though i received an email from blockchain saying there was a transaction declined, its not only 2fa, the wallet is secured to my ip as well

Wow. Tongue
Even if this guy really had 20BTC on that account, he doesn't need to access the wallet secured with your "2FA" since he already has the private key.




tl;dr simple version.
1. You are given a wallet that simply shows the balance of an address the other guy picked to scam you.
2. You see the balance and sends him the amount.


Some facts:
1. This guy does not or did not ever control that address.
2. Anyone with the private key of an address can access the address. So if I give you a wallet loaded with a private key, and you secure that wallet, I can simply use another wallet, load the private key into it and use the funds.
1675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you feel about the negative reputation of the bitcoin currency? on: October 07, 2015, 06:20:35 PM
Everything can be used for good as well as bad. Bitcoin is not anonymous (at least not completely), so gradually the bad stuff should disappear.
1676  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win Apple Ipad Air 2!|Weekly Rake+VIP|DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: October 06, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Now that players can earn raffle tickets as well as buy them, how about an option to sell or trade them?

At a discounted rate to the house, or between players where the house can take a small fee.

We've talked about this internally but basically it involves building something like an exchange. For this specific purpose it's not worth the effort.

Not really. All it needs is a way in which raffle tickets can be transferred to a player. Add an option to allow Player to player transfer of raffle tickets. House can also take a very small fee on that. Smiley

Well yes, but for now the idea is on the backburner, we have other things to take care off once I return to development full force. But it's on the Todo list (along with many other things)

Sure. I know you have lots of things to take care of. Smiley
1677  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win Apple Ipad Air 2!|Weekly Rake+VIP|DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: October 06, 2015, 05:37:51 PM
Now that players can earn raffle tickets as well as buy them, how about an option to sell or trade them?

At a discounted rate to the house, or between players where the house can take a small fee.

We've talked about this internally but basically it involves building something like an exchange. For this specific purpose it's not worth the effort.

Not really. All it needs is a way in which raffle tickets can be transferred to a player. Add an option to allow Player to player transfer of raffle tickets. House can also take a very small fee on that. Smiley
1678  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: October 06, 2015, 05:25:55 PM
Hi guys. As of today, the minimum bet will be 1 bit (100 satoshis). Please adjust your app to not allow bets below that, or they're going to give errors. I've repeatedly asked apps not not abuse the low bets with auto-betting, but I'm in the role of constantly playing wack-a-mole with people constantly abusing it (like today someone thinking it's a fantastic idea sending 50, 1 satoshi bets in flight at the same time) which degrades the service for people who are actually trying to bet.  Anyway, I'd like to remind everyone that 1 bit is: $0.00024614  which is an insanely low number anyway =)

Hello,

Our site is based on Satoshi's and not bits as it's more widely accepted, this is not something BetterBets agrees with unless 100 sat minimum became an industry standard. There are not many examples of dice sites in the top 10 volume casinos that disallow bets under 100 sats. Perhaps we should be excluded as we already accepted a large throttling of these bets to curb them from being spammed.

Yeah, raising min bet to 100 satoshis is not going to have a very good effect on dice sites. Though it won't directly affect volume (because highrollers would still bet) it might cause certain players following progressive strategies to switch to other sites.

Well, on the other hand recently at least two sites (PRC, FJ) have raised minimum bet to 10 or 100 satoshis from 1. The trend is going that way but it still is 1 satoshi generally.
1679  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [www.Primedice.com] Free 0.03 BTC for all Hero Members of Bitcointalk on: October 06, 2015, 06:51:21 AM
Username : ndnhc

Date Joined : Sep 14th 2014
Position : Hero member

Thanks Cheesy
1680  Other / Meta / Re: Someone from DefaultTrust just killed my pot. Sr. Member account for no reason! on: October 06, 2015, 05:50:22 AM
To say that someone should not have trading experience to be in the DefaultTrust network is ridiculous. If they have no experience trading then what would they be doing looking at marketplace threads where the scams are going to be taking place?

No, having trading experience shouldn't be and is not a qualification for being on DT.
What would they be doing looking at Marketplace threads then? What incentive would they have to have to be reasonable with individual trust ratings? If they have no trading experience then why would they have sent any trust ratings?

AFAIK the qualification should be that
the person is trustworthy and
the person leaves reasonable trust ratings
Past trades may indicate trustworthiness but it isn't the only indicator. Well, theymos and BadBear isn't on DT because of trades. Grin

There are DT members with 0 trust score and quite qualify being on Default trust than many others.
How is anyone suppose to know that you are trustworthy if you have never been trusted in the past?

Theymos may not be on DT because of the trades he has done in the past, however he has conducted business on the forum in the past. For example he sold a TI-84 Plus with a Pink Faceplate, and he auctions off forum advertisements multiple times per month.

I am not sure what trades BadBear has conducted in the past, however he has been trusted with sensitive information in the past (and AFAIK continues to be trusted with such information). He also trades his services as an admin for several BTC every month.  

Trust is not equal to doing lot of successful trades.
Past trades is not a guarantee of trustworthiness, though it most of the times have to be taken so because there are only less things to base it on.

theymos isn't on DT because he sold a TI-84 plus with a Pink Faceplate. Grin

It is more like:
the person is not untrustworthy, has not indulged in suspicious behavior and can be reasonably trusted; and most importantly
the person leaves reasonable trust ratings. (includes busting scammers and leaving negative trusts as well as leaving neutral and positive trusts)


Doing lot of solid successful trades might get a green trust score, but they wouldn't be added to DT for that.
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