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these are 3 biggest losers last week
all 3 lost a total of 36btc
Add them up.  To get those stats they need 20,000 such players who wager some 7000 BTC each. If don't think you actually know what I or NLNico is talking about. The actual stats tend towards 100,000 to 200,000, though I can estimate a maximum though unlikely of 500,000. |
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i also have to say when playing slots the amount wagered is massive. even if you lose just a little or win alittle the amount wargered is big
casino games amount wagered goes up x10 faster than dice
when they had weekly contest i would have 2500rdd a spin on slots on all day long. atthe end of the day i may have lost 100-200k rdd but i wagered like 30 million rdd
just saying they have a lot of casino games and casino rev is way diffrent than dice rev.
Yeah, I think you are talking about Fortune Slots. It is true, most spins will lose or win only a small amount. But the bitcoin wagered amount is impossibly high, imo. 14 million Bitcoins is NOT possible. 14 million bitcoin is all alt coins added up together LOL. I personally did the estimate including ALL altcoins. It could be at maximum only around 500,000 BTC.  Other stats given in FortuneJack does not relate to the wagered amount shown on homepage. I am 100% sure it is inflated intended or otherwise. |
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i also have to say when playing slots the amount wagered is massive. even if you lose just a little or win alittle the amount wargered is big
casino games amount wagered goes up x10 faster than dice
when they had weekly contest i would have 2500rdd a spin on slots on all day long. atthe end of the day i may have lost 100-200k rdd but i wagered like 30 million rdd
just saying they have a lot of casino games and casino rev is way diffrent than dice rev.
Yeah, I think you are talking about Fortune Slots. It is true, most spins will lose or win only a small amount. But the bitcoin wagered amount is impossibly high, imo. 14 million Bitcoins is NOT possible. |
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Also, I am not sure whether this guy we are talking to is fully aware of everything to answer it. AFAIK, he could be the admin or a staff handing a completely different department.
I do agree with that. I agree that the "FortuneJack" account on this forum might not even know what these "wagered.php" URLs are and therefor not realize that my table was 100% correct. This would make their latest reply to " wrong because not properly informed by tech dep" instead of " wrong because lying", so I guess that would be better. Yeah, that is quite likely. If this dev/admin of the site is accessible through support or something the info would be more helpful. Right now, speaking to the dev through OP would give a lot of scope for misunderstanding and wrong info. I also agree to just wait for their reply now first, lol. I have no idea how they are going to handle it. IMO, they should fix it first. Whatever be the explanation they give, it won't be justifying the 14 million wagered as right stats, so they SHOULD fix it, and stop showing misleading info right on the home page. @ndnhc: just FYI I do still think they are legit for playing/withdrawals, "just" fake stats (and at this point: probably on purpose), which is important enough to bring up to discussion imo. I am not on some war and I haven't considered any neg trust. I simply do not like lies and I want site operators to be honest. That is all. It is quite possible that whoever handing these parts decided to add some extra amounts to show off their site. Or it could be pure negligence or something wrong on how amounts are calculated. For example, for binary bet, a bet of 0.01 for 60 seconds may be counted as 0.6 BTC.. who knows? It is also very possible they knew the issue and did nothing since they didn't see scoring it down "would help their site to grow".  |
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[img.]https://i.imgur.com/cL0yUVQ.jpg[/img] I can only speak for myself. but im up 12btc at fj its the only site ive won at TBH  Yeah, I don't see any other issues with FortuneJack except this inflated wagered amount. That is why I am defending them. Well, if it is actually inflated by them on purpose then it is seriously unprofessional. Either way they should change the wagered amount to real stats. |
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The bug they described cannot be the cause because I got original alt coins amounts. Of course, I know that. I don't think that was the real issue that caused that high wagered amount either. Overall I agree we should just wait for their reply and see how much they adjust their stats.
Also, I am not sure whether this guy we are talking to is fully aware of everything to answer it. AFAIK, he could be the admin or a staff handing a completely different department. First, get them to fix the wagered amount on the home page. then seek for the explanation, imo. |
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Yes. They removed it today. That's why they are lying by saying "no way you could have access" because they know I was using that URL since it's removed today.
Probably they knew the data was inaccurate, because of say an error they had known which may be why they removed particular altcoin stats from the home page. So they didn't fix it coz they didn't know you or anyone was looking at that stats. Either way, they should correct is asap. |
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I just love this casino, and i`m not a shill here, this is my first bitcoin casino i`ve played at and i instantly loved it. I just love that the API is so fast and when i bet manually it give a nice gambling feeling and experience, i just love that nice sound when you win  Also in terms of money, well look here, if you were to bet like 1 BTC with these settings and win: [IMG.]http://i61.tinypic.com/r0coqf.png[/img] It would be a nice profit , 64290.8 BTC jackpot, that would rock lol, there is a max cap to profit. Well still look here: [IMG.]http://i61.tinypic.com/jab4o7.png[/img] The guy won 1920 BTC by betting only 0.03 BTC, and paid out to bitcoin address! This guy was the luckiest person alive Man I hope I can win that one day, I will never give up trying But that is 3 years ago, I dont think bitcoin price is that high and may be they still can earn around 1 btc only using faucets . Who dare to bet 0.03 nowadays using that odds? You will sure lose all of your balance though Yep. Also the max win is nowhere near that amount. You can't "Bet 1 BTC with that settings" to win in the first place. That is what I mean.  |
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Which error are you talking about? Did you read my post? Please explain me how an exchange rate error affects the original alt coin amounts. It should only affect the BTC amounts. No, I didn't read any posts properly. Where did you get the alt coin wagered amount from? That is in my previous post :p Basically they used to show "per currency" stats in January on the website. I made a crawler for my site at that time and got the full data once. Then for months they didn't show those stats but that URL was still working. So yesterday I ran my script and got full data of "per currency" stats again. Rest/details are really in my previous post :p The numbers really add up compared to their total stats. I get 404 not found. the URL isn't working anymore  |
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Which error are you talking about? Did you read my post? Please explain me how an exchange rate error affects the original alt coin amounts. It should only affect the BTC amounts. No, I didn't read any posts properly. Where did you get the alt coin wagered amount from? |
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Nah, I just think they were careless, lol.
They didn't bother to update the bonus terms about the changes in how the bonus is implemented. The Bonus terms given for the 100% deposit bonus are incorrect and also didn't bother to reset the wagered amount published on the home page of the site to the correct amount after the error was fixed.
I don't want a Nico v. potentially suspicious site war to go on all over again. so, I think we should give them time to fix these two things before adding a negative trust or consider it a scam.
Deadline : 1st October 2015.
1. Most importantly, correct the wagered amount shown on the home page to actual data. The current amount is inflated around 30 to 100+ times as per my estimate. If it is not possible to accurately estimate it, ignore the wagered amount for that particular period in which the error happened.
It is an important material data and decides how people see it. Ignoring it for so long is very unprofessional. Please fix it asap.
2. Update the bonus terms to reflect how things actually work at the moment.
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I just love this casino, and i`m not a shill here, this is my first bitcoin casino i`ve played at and i instantly loved it. I just love that the API is so fast and when i bet manually it give a nice gambling feeling and experience, i just love that nice sound when you win Also in terms of money, well look here, if you were to bet like 1 BTC with these settings and win:  It would be a nice profit , 64290.8 BTC jackpot, that would rock lol, there is a max cap to profit. |
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Those numbers and tables you are trying to bring up are wrong and has nothing to do with our database, and there is no way you could have access to that kind of information.
However, we approve there was a bug counting it. One of the games (fortune wheel) was excluded from the trigger for a short period of time (when we changed our currency rates provider) and the bets were summed up without multiplying it on an exchange rate. The issue was fixed later, but the wager forgetfully remained untouched. It took some time to analyse the code and history of FortuneJack updates.
We think exaggerating total wager would be a cheap marketing trick and would never distribute wager that high on the landing page on purpose, knowing it would raise a lot of questions in a highly curious community like Bitcointalk.
Yep, so the altcoins WERE equated to bitcoins for some time as I thought. May be you should correct it? It is inflated around 40 to 100 times at the moment.. |
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I don't know if bonus T. & C. have been changed since this thread was opened but right now I can EASILY read (in original post linked promo page) this statement: ..."If you withdraw money before reaching the minimum wagering requirements, your bonus and winnings will become void." So you canwithdraw your initial deposit without having to fulfill bonus playtrough requirements. Anyway best suggestion I read here is this one: assuming that the bonus is mandatory why not deposit .01 get the bonus and lose it then deposit the other .990 if you wanna depo 1btc total?
AFAIK, the bonus is not mandatory. FJ's bonus system does not work the usual way either I think. But the T&C the one in the quote does not seem to relate to the way they are actually giving the bonus. (not that I am complaining, but it doesn't really explain things Edit: lol, this is what I am saying. alla is correct, the bonus term is hidden, and totally different from their description,
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Do you believe your strategy is positive EV? No, and i never said I will give any edge, I just said that this strategy can help gamble in a "safer" way. You are stating the EV is not positive and is the same. (correct) You are stating ROI % that implies a positive EV (contradictory and incorrect) Suppose you make 1,000,000,000,000 rolls and got all heads, for the next head assuming the game to be a fair one, the odds are 50%, and for the tails the odds are 50%. I think you are taking it in a way where in a probability distribution of say 1000 rolls, ~500 are heads and ~500 are tails, and if you get 100 heads, the next flip would most likely land a tail. This concept DOES NOT apply in this case. Because the distribution you are talking about is INFINITE. Even if the probability distribution happens to be evenly distributed (is it?) say in centillions (tending towards infinity to be stated properly) of hash combinations, it still gives you an astronomically insignificant effect (1/infinity tending to 0) |
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The data is most certainly wrong.  Edit: The total wagered amount shown on the site doesn't match with any other data on site. NLNico is right. May be there is some error? like 1 DOGE/REDD = 1 BTC? So, a 10000 DOGE bet would add 10000 BTC to the counter. or it could be dollar/cents for slot games that was equated to a BTC. Also, it is possible that the error was already fixed. Even if it happened for say a week, it would completely distort the data. and may be FJ didn't bother to reduce it back? Edit2: I estimated actual wagered amount to be around 100,000 BTC to 400,000 BTC |
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Someone's ddosing the site lol. That guy must have lost a lot of money.
I think you can't ddos too much a site that is using cloudflare, is impossible for an attacker to know the ip address. it's harder, but I don't think it's impossible... if it was then everyone would be using cloudflare (don't take my word for it though!) And a lot of people use cloudflare including primedice. You can't attack a server via ddos from a botnet using ddos clients, so you will have to replay packages but cloudflare as a proxy will repell malicious attack automatically because they have ddos protection integrates. AFAIK, cloudflare makes it difficult. But not impossible. |
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I think I will miss this look and theme when the new one rolls out.
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Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!! I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet. This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt. The rigging is done by Proprietary Rigging Software backed by High Level Artificial Intelligence. It detects that you are a highroller (yes, right before you even sign up) and makes the first bet a win. So the player's psychology approves the site, and he will always be tempted to make another bet and another and another... till all his funds become theirs. jk. Not meant to be taken seriously./size] |
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