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1441  Other / Meta / Re: Posting reserve? on: February 26, 2020, 12:43:56 AM
Interesting. Good catch. Perhaps there could be some kind of daily editing limit put on newb accounts. I can't see any legitimate non-spamming noob needing to edit more than one or two posts a day. This might also help restrict deceptive edits in sales threads etc.
1442  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 26, 2020, 12:39:45 AM
No, you didn't. You just keep repeating that it's "punitive" (even stretching that claim to a "fact") without explaining what's the punishment. Would it be punitive if it was positive, same words?

I did in fact, you are just insisting that you get to reinterpret my words how you prefer to interpret them and then expect me to defend your interpretation, not what I actually said. This is common practice for you.

Synonyms for punitive

    disciplinary
    penal
    punishing
    retaliatory
    vindictive
    punitory
    castigating
    correctional
    in reprisal
    in retaliation
    retaliative
    revengeful


That word has more than one definition, I put the applicable descriptors in bold to make it easier for you. If it was positive it wouldn't be punitive by definition.


I am so confused, did you just suggest everyone to include "A.I.D.S. of the Bitcointalk world" to their trust lists  Huh Huh Huh

I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding. He probably meant that scambusters are "aides". Except tmfp obviously, who must be a criminal of some sort, how dare he exclude TECSHARE.

When did I call him a criminal exactly? Please quote. More disingenuous projection for hyperbolic effect.


Put me on your fucking blacklist, accuse me of shit that I don't do: standard right wing American control bullshit masquerading as being "in the public interest".
Politics now? Are you another person with hidden motives using forum issues as a method to attack me for my political opinions

Yes, I thought that reference would push your Agenda Button.
Maybe I'm a commie?

"Are you, or have you ever been, a member of Default Trust?"



Quote from: TECSHARE
Scambusters are the A.I.D.S. of the Bitcointalk world.
Classy.

It really should be bigger, and in a suitable font. Look cool on your bowling shirt.


To prospective members of the anti-gang gang, this is what your anti-leader leader decrees.
Are you cool with that?

Ah I see, you bring up politics and I am the one pushing a political agenda. You should get a part time job at a movie theater, at least there you would get paid for all that projecting you are doing. I am not a leader of anything. I am just a person setting an example by standing up to a collection of little people who are dependent on the ability to abuse others to maintain their own perception of self worth.
1443  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: February 26, 2020, 12:26:57 AM

He can never admit fault in regard to an individual circumstance as well. You are reinterpreting my words as a general lack of admission. It is good he took that step, unfortunately he is still making plenty of other baseless accusations against multiple parties. The fact that he made the right choice once doesn't erase his current and continual abuse.


Everyone has problems. Unlike Vod most people don't feel the need to announce it as a manipulative tool to elicit sympathy.

There is a negative bias towards active stroke survivors.  Like most, I lost all my casual buddies - I walked different, I talked different, I was child like in my reactions.  Had to relearn how to react to loud noises, or a person coming around the corner.  Obviously I could not work in security anymore and retired.  To claim I'm using my permanent handicap as drama is nonsense.  People noticed I was different.

I'm not ashamed of what happened, and if I wanted sympathy I would have announced it a year ago.  Both suchmoon and ibminer were helping for a while before I had to explain why I was so absent. 

If anyone has questions about the experience, I'd be happy to give my opinion publicly or in private.

Smiley

Uh huh. I am sure it is just a coincidence you bring this to light right as your actions are under increasing scrutiny. What part of any of this gives you license to abuse others via the trust system with baseless accusations you refuse to substantiate?
1444  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: February 25, 2020, 11:05:07 PM
The two party system isn't broken, its just flawed.

My next portion of this is all theory and all something that'd been drawn up in my brain. At the moment we have a two parties, yes, but I do think that there is a uniparty. The two parties argue about the stuff that the voters worry about: abortion rights, gun rights, minor tax law changes, administrative changes, criminal law changes, etc.

But the uni party ALWAYS agrees with one another in ensuring that it is hard for a third party to grow. They'll do everything in their power to limit that -- increasing the number of signature you need to be on the ballot, making elections a regulatory mess, etc -- they'll continue to pass things that both of them love and want to do: the growth of government, surveillance of the people, stuff along those lines.

I never made the claim it was perfect, simply that it exists for as very logical reason that most people do not take into account. On certain issues there certainly does exist some sort of collaboration to screw the general population. Unfortunately this would exist regardless of us having 2 parties or 30. The only difference is the nation would be only more Balkanized making it easier to control. Divide and conquer. Furthermore this process could be accelerated by making it possible to introduce a more extremist minority to power. Changes definitely are needed, but this is by no means a simple problem. We should be careful that our "solutions" don't regress our society rather than progress our society.


1445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: February 25, 2020, 09:05:16 PM
1446  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 25, 2020, 07:56:15 PM
That doesn't answer my question at all. What's wrong with that rating? Are we now at the point where we're bitching about soft-positive neutral ratings?

I absolutely answered your question, it just wasn't the answer you wanted. I am not suggesting anything be done about the rating, but the fact it was left is evidence of the fact that there is no redemption with people like you, and any corrections made are just leveraged to apply more punitive action, much like when I removed iCEBREAKER from the list in the OP.
1447  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 25, 2020, 07:43:55 PM
I just thought I would post yet another example of there never being anything good enough for those wanting to attack:

Last of the V8s   2020-02-25   Reference   "Didn't quite go overboard for once"

What's wrong with that one? It's a neutral rating, phrased somewhat positively, doesn't violate your "standards".

The fact it is a rating is not the issue, it is the obvious conflict in intent. Like I said, if I did something right here, why exactly was this necessary? "Phrased somewhat positively" lol ok. It is just more evidence that all you people know how to do is be punitive, and there is never any credit for positive correction, and it is only leveraged to make excuses for more hectoring and punitive actions. Then you all pretend to wonder why I tell all you clowns to go fuck yourselves.
1448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: whats the point of preserving nations? success doesnt come out of it. on: February 25, 2020, 07:32:16 PM
first of all. kingscorpio lacks the talent to understand whats happening in the UK..

but lets do some basic theories with him.

first of all. nationalisation has happened hundreds of years ago. its not something new. its not something up coming.
the UK had nationalisation of rail, electric, telephone, healthcare for a long long long time

the UK was independant nation before WW2
the UK is not moving into new territory/unknowns..

with all that said.
the UK is not going full nazi racist and government communist

infact the UK is actually devolving powers to local districts and even letting foreign companies own utilities like electric, telephone, rail, sewerage

if you think the UK is going to be a trump 'lets build a wall' country. you are wrong.
we will still trade we will still travel we will still diversify. we just wont let other countries tell us how.
we will actually thrive more due to brexit.

stop watching media. and do some research. its almost like your waiting for the stockmarket news to tell you when to buy and sell. but not realise that firstly once it hit the news the news is outdated and people smarter then you have already acted on it. and secondly its just creating a herd mentality aftermath reaction that does the opposite to whats really going on.

...
as for preserving nations. well thats the makeup of preserving independant identity and power. again. why want to be a globalist. why want to be controlled by europe.. when it has been shown many times the global/european agenda doesnt always line up with certain nations desires.

Please learn the difference between "nationalism" and "nationalization". They are two very different things.
1449  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: February 25, 2020, 07:04:58 PM
*compulsive liar

He definitely has a compulsive disorder and has no qualms about lying to everyone's face over and over and over again. He seems to believe as long as he never admits fault no one will notice his constant self contradictions.

Anyone who does point it out is "lying about him" and gets attacked and tagged via the trust system, and some members of this community refuse to take responsibility for him by removing his authority under the system he abuses to serve his own compulsions at the expense of the larger community. It terrifies me to think of how many peoples lives he might have ruined as a cop in real life with his lack of self control.
1450  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 25, 2020, 06:59:35 PM

Nigeria has a lot of scammers right? If I nuked Nigeria I would objectively be "fighting scammers" now wouldn't I?
Juvenile strawman rhetoric.
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"Fighting scammers" is easy if you have little to no concern about innocents.
That's precisely the reason for doing it, "a concern for innocents".
Quote
Yes yes, I am sure your evidence free suspicion is above reproach  
What "evidence free" suspicion?
Red trust should be reference linked to the reasoning behind it.
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and you never ever catch innocent people up in your OCD dragnet
More flowery strawman bullshit from the king of OCD.
Quote
... not that anyone is watching the watchers.
The whole forum watches.
Anyone who wants to object to my posts or my feedback is more than welcome to dispute them, show me where I'm wrong.
Quote
tecshare's reasoning for exclusion of forum member tmfp?
I have no interst in being a poster child in this nonsense, but it's simple: retaliation for my exclusion of him. He now wants his anti gang gang to copy it.
Pick thru his tedious narrative above for his changing "reasons" for it.

Put me on your fucking blacklist, accuse me of shit that I don't do: standard right wing American control bullshit masquerading as being "in the public interest".

It is not at all a straw man. It is called an metaphor. A metaphor designed to point out that indiscriminate attacks can be quite effective at disabling a target if you disregard innocents effected. That doesn't make indiscriminate attacks desirable. Scambusters are the A.I.D.S. of the Bitcointalk world.

Yeah, you claim that is all you are concerned for. Maybe your intent is even legitimate. Unfortunately your instincts and suspicions are not infallible, and most forum cops here are more interested in feeling effective than being effective. Real life police use that as a defense too. They still regularly rob and murder people in the name of "defending innocents". Lack of accountability is the only thing that allows these abuses to continue.

Reasoning =/= Evidence

If the whole forum watches, what do we need full time forum cops for digging through everyone's shit looking for excuses to condemn them to raise their own reputation? Sure plenty of people are watching, how many people are willing or able to challenge incorrect or abusive ratings? The VAST majority of grievances are just immediately and summarily dismissed as scammers crying because they "got their comeuppance". Anyone that has a reputation to stand on, that reputation is then leveraged against them to silence them. Just look at this thread for plenty of examples of the mouth frothing levels of attacks that result any time anyone suggests these people might be held to higher standards.

Politics now? Are you another person with hidden motives using forum issues as a method to attack me for my political opinions like several of the others here because they can't manage a logical debate on the subject? Maybe you want to project some more, accuse me of projecting, then deny you accused me all in the same breath? You can't even account for yourself let alone others.





I just thought I would post yet another example of there never being anything good enough for those wanting to attack:

Last of the V8s   2020-02-25   Reference   "Didn't quite go overboard for once"

Did I do the right thing or not? If so why exactly are you attacking me for it by leaving these retarded and hectoring ratings? This is why I never give an inch to these people, because even when I make a correction, all they ever focus on is the fact that something was wrong at one point. There is no credit given for taking correct actions, only more punitive actions. Why the fuck would I even acknowledge you people with your petty nit picking when all you offer is disincentive?


1451  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: February 25, 2020, 04:50:08 PM
"China Hunting Down Coronavirus Critics, Here's How"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-hunting-down-coronavirus-critics-heres-how



"8,000 Californians Under "Self-Imposed Quarantine", South Korea Locks Down City Of 2.5 Million People: Virus Updates"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wuhan-eases-lockdown-then-retracts-order-3-hours-later-italy-cases-soar-past-200-live
1452  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 25, 2020, 04:18:59 PM
Any news on standard compliance within your trust list? Have you come up with serious guild-approved excuses yet?
If number of negative feedback is lower than number of negative feedback which suggested exclusion sent
    then welcome to guild
        else suggested exclusion.

It's more like.

If ( user follows Core tenets)
  {
      "Welcome to the Object Standards Guild";
  }
else if ( user regularly and repeatedly ignores the Core tenets)
  {
     Suggested exclusion;
  }

Simple to understand, your code seems totally based on your own double standards perspective.
So you basically repeated what I said.

If you want to talk about not objective double standards of "objective" guild, start from here:


----------------------------------------

"if user regularly and repeatedly ignores the Core tenets"

So you claim this is it, but you agreed with tecshare's reasoning for exclusion of forum member tmfp?  Huh You morons are suggesting users to exclude someone who fights against crypto scams.


This is more like:

If "I" like you
then welcome to objective standard guild
else excuses and suggested exclusion.

Can you please post number of allowed trust abuses (according to guild rules)? Just to make sure people who are in this guild don't cross their allowed abuse(abuse, according to core tenets) limits. Just hit me with the number.

Nigeria has a lot of scammers right? If I nuked Nigeria I would objectively be "fighting scammers" now wouldn't I? "Fighting scammers" is easy if you have little to no concern about innocents. Yes yes, I am sure your evidence free suspicion is above reproach and you never ever catch innocent people up in your OCD dragnet... not that anyone is watching the watchers.
1453  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: February 25, 2020, 04:11:55 PM
before you give yourself a stroke like Vod
That's low.

It is more low at many reputed members around giving strokes to users here openly and turning them into long time trolls later. Just obeserve around, this strokes are everywhere but not announced publicly often. No one cares really.

Everyone has problems. Unlike Vod most people don't feel the need to announce it as a manipulative tool to elicit sympathy.
1454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA siding with EU vs UK and nazis on: February 25, 2020, 04:05:04 PM
Not that I agree with their policy necessarily, I don't know anything about it, but Muslim is not a race.

not that you admit you dont know anything about it.
but by deeming muslims as not part of the indian race. makes it racism.. for whatever reason.. for instance location,skin colour, or religion, or language, or social qualities.

yes. even a black man can be racist about another black man. if they come from different social constructs.
race is not just about dna similarities

Muslim is a religion, not a race. What you are describing is called prejudice, not racism.
1455  Economy / Reputation / Re: MagicByt3 - refusing to honor his auction contract on: February 25, 2020, 07:00:28 AM
IMO the main source of the confusion is MagicByt3 was looking at the auction like a regular sale. In a normal sale, you are free to set whatever conditions you like pretty much at any point and the buyer can take a flying leap if they don't want to meet them and the seller doesn't want to accommodate.

In an auction, you are legally setting up an open offer to contract. When a buyer bids, it constitutes acceptance of the terms set forth in the auction listing (contract). At that point both the seller and bidder are bound by the terms.

This is why everyone was so adamant about you completing the exchange. To not do so would be a violation of that contract, and essentially documented evidence that you don't honor your agreements. This would essentially be reputation death here, as opposed to something which could potentially be something with legal consequences outside of the forum, or if larger values were at stake. Here are some details if anyone is interested.

https://contracts.uslegal.com/elements-of-a-contract/

There are additional regulations specific to the auction process, also a few things probably unique to the forum here. I know this sounds a bit like over kill, and people are unlikely to take any kind of legal action over auctions here for the most part, but these rules are the only way we can maintain any kind of order here regarding the auction process.
1456  Economy / Reputation / Re: DireWolf14 : Trust exaggeration on: February 25, 2020, 03:55:58 AM
Very cutesy. So cutesy I almost forgot you literally just tried use trying to build a positive reputation as justification for tagging people, claiming it is proof they could have ulterior motives. Show me the man, I will find you the crime. That is the Direpup credo.

Maybe you should find a few minutes to read the thread instead of repeating this nonsense. Context matters.

Not really, because if he had a legitimate argument he would have made it instead of making utterly retarded claims that could be applied to literally anyone he and the rest of the clowns choose to target. This is not an isolated incident of this.
1457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: February 25, 2020, 03:47:50 AM
He praised a literacy program.  Are you anti-literacy?  Florida might just be.

That is the talking point you are going with? Hitler pulled Germany out of a massive depression, I guess he wasn't all bad.

He said a lot more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhpVAkBDg5o
1458  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: February 25, 2020, 02:32:08 AM
I doubt anyone here really cares about apologies. However Vod did explicitly state he would apologize to people he had called pedophiles along with his demand for an apology. This is another demonstration of the fact that Vod quote regularly lies and contradicts himself.

If they post here for an apology, like I am, I will give it to them.

Everyone that asked has received.   Go play Techy...  Kiss

Please quote any apology you have made for anyone you have called a pedophile Vod. If you aren't a liar, that should be a simple task right?
1459  Economy / Reputation / Re: DireWolf14 : Trust exaggeration on: February 25, 2020, 02:30:25 AM
I might suspect you are a body snatcher from the planet Xenon,

You'd be wrong.  I'm booty scratcher from the planet Terra.  Kiss


that doesn't give me a right to preemptively shank you in the name of protecting your potential victims.

WTF is this, a prison yard?  Who has been "shanked?"  Demonstrable proof, please.


I wouldn't trust you with a dirty diaper.

You shouldn't.  Your dirty diapers are not my responsibility, and I refuse to be held accountable for your tendency to soil your britches.

Very cutesy. So cutesy I almost forgot you literally just tried use trying to build a positive reputation as justification for tagging people, claiming it is proof they could have ulterior motives. Show me the man, I will find you the crime. That is the Direpup credo.
1460  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: February 25, 2020, 02:26:14 AM
I doubt anyone here really cares about apologies. However Vod did explicitly state he would apologize to people he had called pedophiles along with his demand for an apology. This is another demonstration of the fact that Vod quite regularly lies and contradicts himself.

That means VOD has a line of peoples to send apologies to.

Oh you bet I do.   In each of those cases, once I was able to show the accuser how they were parroting garbage and I could too, they discontinued with their accusations.   If they post here for an apology, like I am, I will give it to them.  No matter how long the line.
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