Hey now.. men/women are not strong unless they can articulate their feelings through the poetry of profanity
That's why the most powerful men and woman in the world address their constituents with the vocabulary of TMAN. The greatest lawyers argue their cases with endless ad-homonyms.. Satoshi constantly spoke of the prolapsed rectums of Bitcoin non-believers mothers.. Nah.. Aw come on... it was funnier out of context xD |
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Libertarianism would be the complete lack of a trust system
DWM14 does have a bit of a point here but I would say more like "the complete lack of a DT system".. No, he doesn't. He is operating off of the stereotype that libertarianism is like anarchy, it is nothing of the sort. Libertarians still support a system of rights, law, and justice, they just think it should be absolutely minimal as possible. Except if you want to build a reputation for trade under this system, then you are directly penalized for not participating in it by having positive trust ratings left for you being less visible. I'm afraid you will never get it. The trust system isn't about you, and your precious rating's visibility. And, I did in fact pay attention to my civics classes. Just because this democratic republic has rejected you as one of it's representatives doesn't make any less of one. I am afraid you have fooled yourself in order to relieve the cognitive dissonance resulting from your hypocrisy. If this was a democratic republic I would have the right to due process and my accusers would have to substantiate their accusations rather than just make a bunch of them until they can find a story plausible enough to stick for the mob to grab a hold of and run with. You will never get it. The only reason you think everything is fine is because you haven't yet been the target of it. Of course there is also the little matter of the fact that I have 8 years of effort invested into my reputation here, and you just showed up, what a year ago? Easy to be casual with a tiny fraction of the time and effort at stake. When it is you I am sure all of a sudden it will be a travesty. Also the fact that I agitate you doesn't make my argument invalid. P.S. You better find those principles soon before Nutilduhhh gives your poor goat a prolapse. |
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if I'm not mistaken, it is this statement: I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.
Yeah, that... Good job.. A "post as a guest" feature would be cool too.. I think their used to be one.. Nope, that is just what shows when they used to ban a user but didn't nuke all their posts, or something like that. |
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You're both wrong. Libertarianism would be the complete lack of a trust system, everyone fending for themselves and doing their own research, caveat emptor. A pure democracy would leave theymos as the only DT1 member. We have 100 representatives (DT1) all with differing number of votes, from a wide variety of voters. It's much closer to a representative democratic republic than either of you are crediting.
The trust system doesn't prevent anyone from fending for themselves and doing their own research. DT is optional. Trust lists are optional. If someone wants to go full Amish they can just wipe their trust list and have at it. Except if you want to build a reputation for trade under this system, then you are directly penalized for not participating in it by having positive trust ratings left for you being less visible. |
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Yep, I am a big old meanie for holding people to the same obsessive and meddling standards they hold others to. Especially when it is one of your pals. The trust system in many ways is a (possibly failing) libertarian dream This system is a pure democracy You're both wrong. Libertarianism would be the complete lack of a trust system, everyone fending for themselves and doing their own research, caveat emptor. A pure democracy would leave theymos as the only DT1 member. We have 100 representatives (DT1) all with differing number of votes, from a wide variety of voters. It's much closer to a representative democratic republic than either of you are crediting. You clearly slept through your social studies classes in middle school. |
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I read the links, thank you. I was not aware of them but I cannot say what sentiments Vod was going through at the time of those posts.
To be fair maybe it is time to give him some space, things do not seem right and he probably needs some time away to relax especially after the health scares. Stress and alike affect different people in different ways, maybe right now is not the time to continue it.
If you were having a bad few days and all you needed was just a little time to relax you probably would not appreciate it if you were in his shoes. At least let him return in after a short time out and hopefully in a better frame of mind before you and he can re-start hostilities? I am sorry if I speak out of turn but I am not aware as to what the issue is behind the hostilities between both of you but hopefully they can be resolved amicably (with some arbitration if necessary) then you both can start from a new page. I hope so. Yeah, I tried that. He insists on perpetuating the conflict, which frankly I don't care about until he starts abusing the trust system. Yes, yes, poor Vod. He is just being manipulative to avoid culpability for his actions just like the several other times I just showed you. Frankly I find this to be disgusting behavior that makes it difficult for people to get leeway when they actually need it. To him it is just an effective way to deflect his responsibility for his actions. I will "give him some space" when he fixes the damage he has done to me and removes his frivolous and abusive negative ratings. He doesn't need space, he just thinks this will be an effective way to avoid responsibility for his behavior and get away with leaving up his abusive negative ratings for me. |
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LOL, libertarian. Yeah, lots of people leaving each other alone and observing the non-aggression principle around here for sure.
This forum has devolved from its origination by cypherpunk anarchists building a tool of liberty toward NPC normies who would rather appeal to authority, and power seekers over an economy of profit seekers.. -
"I can neither confirm nor deny" A pretty good line that got me some great pussy one time when I was asked how I know so much about MCs.. Many of my principles of respect and couth came from the MC culture.. Good luck trying to paint me as dishonest.. Yep. The original culture of the forum has been ruined and invaded by trifling statist totalitarian "Karens" who want to talk to your manager and replicate all the horrible systems Bitcoin was designed to escape from. I originally came here to trade because it was a good alternative to places like Fleabay, there wasn't some one crawling up my ass with all kinds of restrictions and I could be left to myself to deal with customers as I chose. All I ever wanted to do was be left alone to enjoy the forum within my rights to use it as anyone else has. I was dragged into all of this forum politics bullshit against my will, and now I am sure a lot of the people doing the dragging wished they would have just left me to my business, because now I spend my time stapling a list of their double standards to their faces. I guess that is what happens when you remove all incentives from people to work within the established system. Unfortunately the people perpetrating this abuse, or willfully ignoring it, don't seem to get the connection. Either everyone is free or no one is free. You can avert your eyes now, but eventually it is going to be your turn to be the target of the mob. That is the nature of it, that is unless we collectively stand up to it. Instead we get people here and there resisting, and they are allowed to be picked off one by one while the rest of the jellyfish cower, try to avoid conflict at all cost, and try to pretend that they are "one of the boys", and it will never happen to them. |
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Death threads are a federal crime. Maybe just be happy no one cares enough to pursue charges. Frankly you are both cunts, but you should be free to peddle whatever you like as long as it is legal.
I think the pheds can suck my dick down here in europe. And i think all the importance given to such matter is just pointless and even stupid. Edit: I double fucking dare anyone to pursue charges for this. You are idiot. Putting you on ignore.
This is the equivalent of two people having a conversation in a restaurant, and you running up and screaming into a bullhorn and calling it free speech because you don't like the fact that person is talking.
And who that imaginary second person would be? This is forum, not restaurant  He has a right to trade whatever the fuck he likes here as long as it is legal. You don't have a right to interfere with that just because you personally don't like it, or simply to entertain yourself.
That is not the question here, if you want to talk about someone interfering with other peoples threads for personal entertainment, start with yourself interfering and deflecting investigation threads. Back to topic Some posts are likely removed because of certain things mentioned above, but how do you explain this and/or better this? Tell me one good reason why these 2 posts are off topic replies. Tell me why it is not allowed to offer 12 satoshi if price is not set and is open for discussion and what makes it something which needs to be removed? Is there any forum rule where it says that "you are not allowed to comment in other peoples sale threads even thought OP said topic is open for discussion"? The other person would be his potential customer. Investigation threads are meant to be for open debate and discussion. Just because you don't agree with or don't like what I have to say about it doesn't make it "interference". That is of course unless your goal is to dish out punitive punishments motivated by personal grievances regardless of the facts, then sure, it is interference. Of course you don't have a right to abuse the forum's systems to do any of that. |
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Well... I can't say I didn't try...
My comments focusing on inconsistencies in interpretations of the rules seem to be pushed to the wayside to continue the circular debates once again =(
...and I thought some good had finally been done to try and put this to rest...... one can still hope it will happen...
because from my perspective: answering those inconsistencies/uncertainties would definitely take this to its end.
I've said what I could. I just hope the persons involved could take some time to see it through.
I can't force Vod to have a critical and logical discussion in support of his accusations and ratings, but some how I share responsibility in his circus even though he is the one perpetrating damaging actions against me and all I am doing is seeking redress. His strategy is to frustrate anyone even attempting to examine the situation so they stop examining it, because his accusations can not withstand scrutiny, and he knows it. Try asking him some direct questions and see how he replies. I have been quite responsive, he however has avoided interaction with you in favor of his usual sad children's party magician act. This is what Vod does perpetually in a bid to avoid critical examination of his accusations at all costs. Watch. Vod, please substantiate any of your ratings against me with facts. Thanks. |
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What was the backstory here? What happened in which you saw a lack of morality from theymos?
If you really want to know, you can PM me. Techy doesn't want the game to end, but it will. :/ What game? You mean you abusing the trust system to serve your petty personal vendettas? You mean that "game"? Thanks for admitting you see the trust system as your personal plaything. |
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I was ready to abandon this forum in anger, over what I perceived as lack of morality from the forum administrator.
What was the backstory here? What happened in which you saw a lack of morality from theymos? He doesn't. He is just blame shifting to draw attention away from his own behavior preemptively because he knows Theymo's patience with him is running out after the whole doxing and reporting a user to the IRS thing. He is probably hoping he can manipulate Theymos by getting him to focus on examining his own actions and be distracted from Vod's behavior. Worked for Lauda... why shouldn't Vod try it? |
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Where was my free speech when I got banned because a DEATH THREAT? Nowhere in the world what I done could be a death threat but a burst of honesty that could get you in trouble if ever done.
180 days whatfor? A proven scam promoter?
All I tried for a good portion of the 50 days spent on this forum is help dealing against that shit only to get banned, as long as it concerns me I couldn't give less fucks nowadays, if i can and feel like helping a thread on my way of boredom I will if i feel like it, I don't worry anymore that scammers will harm the currency, most of the bitcoin users I know wouldn't touch this forum with a stick and I feel them now.
And I mean actual users not money leechers and profit seekers, people that a way or another give a lot to the crypto community.
All that's left on the forum is good speakers that use a lot of words and seem rather fucking book writters.
Also, I never used LN and maybe I never will.
Regarding the holiday thing, anyone that goes on vacation usually spends whatever is left before leaving.
Death threads are a federal crime. Maybe just be happy no one cares enough to pursue charges. Frankly you are both cunts, but you should be free to peddle whatever you like as long as it is legal. |
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Does any of that shit look logical to you?
Timestamps: post number 1 and 2 are on topic. I don't see any reason to remove them. Well, we can discuss about posts number 3 and 4, some parts are on topic and some parts are not, and some can be viewed as NSFW(stone age, tabu, people should be polite on internet, you name it) I'll point only on topic parts: best word you have written, the only reason I cannot spell the beer well is due to the shitty hangover that shit wank beer gave me, the smell from the factory near the airport - almost cancer giving.
as for the coins, 20-30-40-100 years, all worth less than one of my morning shits or wanks, actually I believe I could have a wank on a sheet of paper and sell it for more than your collection, my DNA is worth more than your shitcoin collection.
how does that make you feel coño ? tu madre es una puta!
mahou was bad - the red stuff made me fuck women like your madre.
anyway - the old coins are still worth fuck all. and I can continue the insults into infinity until you are banned again Ok son, I eat out your mother and she was as about as pleasurable as these shitty old worthless potato coins.
honestly - no sales here
your death threats really should of been a lifetime ban, we wouldn't of had to seen cold war times coin for sale here then !
night night sunshine.
when you kiss your mum please remember my cock has deepthroated her
xxxxx But as there is large part of off topic/NSFW "words" in these 2 posts, they are very likely removed because of it. Still, removing posts 1 and 2 is questionable. This post is also on topic: Ban = ban, I’m legit as I have spent 100x what you have on collectibles. Anyway back to op I can sent you 12 satoshi on LN for these shitcoins you are offering, deal? No deal? I’ll fuck your dad again for free Or it can be interpreted like a joke or trolling, but I personally wouldn't moderate someone's buy offer, regardless whether it is real or not.
I wonder where are all these "free speech" users now to defend TMAN!!?!!!? What about his ability to be able to use the forum in peace and trade freely? You have the entirety of the rest of the forum to talk mad shit about him as much as you like. This is the equivalent of two people having a conversation in a restaurant, and you running up and screaming into a bullhorn and calling it free speech because you don't like the fact that person is talking. Your rights end where his rights begin. He has a right to trade whatever the fuck he likes here as long as it is legal. You don't have a right to interfere with that just because you personally don't like it, or simply to entertain yourself. |
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Exactly how does that help when people refuse to enforce the standards of the trust system and continue to include those that abuse it? Further more, they abuse it to keep out anyone who resists this abusive behavior by excluding anyone who is critical of this abuse. It is kind of like saying "Yeah you have free speech, but you can only exercise it in the basement in the dark between the hours of 3AM and 6AM."
It works exactly the same way as it does in any other situation where people disagree with you. You can ignore it, or fight it, or blame everyone for not fighting it for you - whatever makes you happy. None of what you described, even if it's real, prevents you from including the Turks and the Russians exercising your free speech. The trust system in many ways is a (possibly failing) libertarian dream - you give people the tools to control their fate but when it doesn't go the way they imagined it, they start begging for regulations and standards and for the dear leader to provide them guidance. LOL, libertarian. Yeah, lots of people leaving each other alone and observing the non-aggression principle around here for sure. This system is a pure democracy, and a perfect example of why pure democracy is an utter disaster. As I argued before, the reason the USA is such a successful form of government, is because it is a republic. In a republic the rights of the individual are protected. In a democracy, the mob rules, and the mob takes what the mob wants from the individual. Minority and marginalized groups suffer. A republic places restrictions on what that mob is and is not allowed to do to the individual, providing relative freedom for all compared to a pure democracy. In this case, it would be observable evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws before rating. Anything else allows for abuse operated under the guise of policing the forum for fraud, and everyone knows police are never corrupt right? You keep spreading your fairytales of the evil shady deals of the TECSHARE if it helps you releave your cognitive dissonance. I will keep arguing the facts of the matter. |
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Regardless of groundless speculation there is no rage against DT. There is only the call to move to an objective stsndard. I have no idea why you would oppose it. I have no idea because you and every other member here have not presented any valid reason to resist this sensible upgrade.
There is a standard, it's called "make your own fucking standard using your trust list and stop being a salty sockpuppeting dung beetle". Exactly how does that help when people refuse to enforce the standards of the trust system and continue to include those that abuse it? Further more, they abuse it to keep out anyone who resists this abusive behavior by excluding anyone who is critical of this abuse. It is kind of like saying "Yeah you have free speech, but you can only exercise it in the basement in the dark between the hours of 3AM and 6AM." |
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Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..
Does he want to be cared about? I get a feeling he's enjoying the little niche he carved for himself. There is some serious competition from cryptohunter V3 in the "rage against DT" competition but he's gonna flame out sooner or later, and TECSHARE will still be here 5 years later barking at passing cars. I just want equal protection from the rules that are enforced upon me. Nothing more. |
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secret underground meeting
That would explain a lot.. Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE.. That's because this forum isn't run using rules, it is run by popularity contest. |
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I see lots of accusations. I see theories. I see assumptions. Where is the substantiation?
I can live with you not seeing it, as I've learned I can't make you see or understand things you don't want to. That's OK, everybody else can see it. I am sure you are very proud of your active imagination. Unfortunately accusations require facts to be substantiated, not just suspicions. No they don't. What the fuck are you talking about? Did I neg you based on my post? Did I tell Vod to neg you based on my post? I think you're just trolling me at this point, so feel free to have the last word, because I know you are going to anyway. Thanks for admitting you have no substantiation for your claims. |
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I see lots of accusations. I see theories. I see assumptions. Where is the substantiation?
I can live with you not seeing it, as I've learned I can't make you see or understand things you don't want to. That's OK, everybody else can see it. I am sure you are very proud of your active imagination. Unfortunately accusations require facts to be substantiated, not just suspicions. You run along now, just like Vod every time he is asked to substantiate his claims. |
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All of the biggest abusers, working together, in harmony. This is the legacy of the trust system.
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