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1381  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 28, 2020, 08:29:13 AM
@TECSHARE

after thinking on this a bit, i'd prefer if you would omit my name from the list. i agree the trust system is a shitshow, but i don't want to be construed as fishing for inclusions, and i'd prefer to take a step back from all this meta/reputation drama anyway. the vitriolic bickering and the need to be right on the internet it brings out in me just stresses me out, and i really need to avoid that right now.

i'm just gonna low key stick to my guns re how i use the trust system, while also trying to distance myself from virtue signalling.

thanks, onward and upward.....

Another good user falls victim to harassment and abuse for doing nothing more than speaking their mind. I understand your reasoning, but you didn't ask to be put on that list, and it is nothing more than a suggestion for inclusion on my part. I don't know how I feel about censoring my opinion about you being a reputable inclusion based on what is clearly a decision taken under duress.

I must say I am initially inclined to grant this request, but I am conflicted on the matter by what is essentially censorship by proxy. I don't see how anyone can make proper trust lists if anyone even making suggestions can be harassed into staying silent about them. You should also know, no matter what you do at this point they are never going to stop. That is just what they do. Submission is not a solution to your issues.
1382  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST ABUSE by DT on: February 28, 2020, 08:16:32 AM
There is a long history of Lauda abusing the trust systems here to the point of Theymos blacklisting them from DT1. You know this, you are simply equivocating to justify inaction.
LOL is this real  Huh Can you show me more specific examples or evidence? I have never heard of this before, at least the amount of time I have been active on this forum, although there are times when I am absent, so I may not know. Can you quote any statements about it?
There are no statements because it did not happen outside of the private engagement between theymos and me. This is the only truth:

This is a proven lie. It was done because I had requested it. Quoted for reference.
mr. TECSHARE is a known liar, and once his defamatory attacks get dealt with he cries "silence of criticism". Quite unfortunate that trustworthy members fall for this gig.

Just because you don't like my criticism and you perceive it as an attack doesn't justify you using the trust system this way. It couldn't possibly be made any more clear that you are leaving these ratings as punishment for criticizing your behavior.
1383  Economy / Reputation / Re: Little Mouse and RapTarX - What is this connection? on: February 28, 2020, 08:13:00 AM
Am i missing something here? What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged. Sincerely even if the accounts are alts, it's not a crime to have alts unless you have caught them have engaging in shady activities like cheating in signature campaigns.
Excuse me,
Have you read my title? What I want to know is their connection, not the tagging or anything else  Roll Eyes Just like the way I'm here to ask questions with my main account, I want everything to be clean, free of shadowing or hiding here. Obviously, we know a lot of people publicly about their alt on this forum, it's fine, but this guy is trying to hide it  Wink The more shady you are, the more people will suspect it  Wink

The entire point of having an alt in most cases is to segregate the identities and provide anonymity. Trying to hide the fact that it is an alt alone is not evidence of any illicit activity.
1384  Economy / Reputation / Re: RETALIATORY VINDICTIVE TRUST ABUSE by DT on: February 28, 2020, 08:08:59 AM
More clear attempts to silence criticism using the trust system as a tool of abuse from Lauda.

Lauda   2020-02-28   Reference   Continues to defame me out of spite. Will merge with other ratings later.
1385  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: February 28, 2020, 08:08:46 AM
More clear attempts to silence criticism using the trust system as a tool of abuse from Lauda.

Lauda   2020-02-28   Reference   Continues to defame me out of spite. Will merge with other ratings later.
1386  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: February 28, 2020, 07:07:31 AM
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all

Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".

My agreement or disagreement is irrelevant. You in fact did not answer my questions. You replied, but you didn't answer them. That is not the same thing.
1387  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST ABUSE by DT on: February 28, 2020, 07:06:07 AM
I'm not going to exclude Lauda from my trust list unless these kinds of feedbacks get out of hand, and even then an exclusion from me wouldn't do much of anything.

The idea that Lauda's abusive ratings are not out of hand is nothing more than an illusion to sell yourself on justifying your excusing of this behavior by not excluding them. There is no shortage of forum cops, many with much better track records. The sky will not fall with Lauda gone. There is a long history of Lauda abusing the trust systems here to the point of Theymos blacklisting them from DT1. You know this, you are simply equivocating to justify inaction.
1388  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: February 28, 2020, 06:58:53 AM
... What are you a fucking deepshit? ...
1389  Other / Meta / Re: Red tags still being used to silence whistle blowing?? blatantly now. on: February 28, 2020, 06:18:26 AM
You aren't important enough for the rules to protect you. The rules are only there to protect important people. Unimportant people are free to be subjugated by the important people, because they are special.
1390  Other / Meta / Re: The Objective Standards Guild - Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia on: February 28, 2020, 06:14:29 AM
I actually used to pity you some times, feel sorry for you other times and laugh out loud when reading some of your nonsensical tripe other times. In some circumstances I occasionally gave you partial benefit of the doubt but no more.

You seem to thrive on the need for public attention. You are deluded, your bloated exaggerated belief in your self-importance is laughable as much as it is worthy of pity. Your delusion seems to be growing at an alarming rate thanks to the merits being thrown your way by the local language board conspirators trying to get back to DT who have been on the look out for a fool to come along who will play good doggy fetch with them. Good to see you and they are trusting, distrusting and meriting the same way - hence your misguided belief in your bloated self-importance is exacerbated thanks to their contributions to your mental unbalance Roll Eyes

I cannot provide a professional opinion since it is not my forté nor my field but you should seriously get booked in to see a medical expert that specialises in treating those suffering from delusions of grandeur and those suffering from the most acutest of narcissistic tendencies. After they identify the exact cause and extent of your medical condition they might be able to treat and save you from slipping further in your own tiny little bubble world.

Hopefully if you get medical treatment in time you might be able to have a normal life in the real world instead of the rather ridiculous one you are living online here.


Speak English much? I assume you mean your name on the list. Your name is on the list because you regularly leave negative ratings based on suspicion alone, as well as things like advertising a banner for organizations you suspect, I.E. guilt via association. What is your point exactly other than the fact that you object?

Is some one upset their little retaliatory exclusion was exposed? There seems to be a repeating theme of people who get called out attacking my person rather than addressing any of the issues. Could it be they have no argument to stand on, therefore personal attacks are the only remaining option?



...This is why I have been advocating so vocally for "rule of law", IE a standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws, before rating, because rule of law is what protects the rights of the individual. For example the USA is a republic, because it preserves the right of the individual within a Democracy. In a pure democracy, all you have is pure mob "justice", and it is a popularity contest not a matter of fact. What this forum is, is mob justice with no protection for the individual. The mob simply votes the individuals rights away. I really don't think this is what Theymos intended even if it is what resulted...

...this forum seems more interested in who is popular and protecting their own ass than the actual viability of the forums systems. After all, if people are only punished by rules, and not protected by them, historically what happens to those systems of governments? They fail. Horribly and spectacularly.
1391  Other / Meta / Re: Default Trust List: Time to Ban Groups With Ulterior Motives and Agendas ? on: February 28, 2020, 06:11:34 AM
There are a lot of people here using the fact that their centralized control over the default trust is being diluted to include more members (by design) as evidence that manipulators are trying to gain control. The manipulators already have control. That was the entire point of increasing the size of the default trust list, so that it makes it that much more difficult for unilateral control of it to be maintained by manipulators. Of course the biggest manipulators want the default trust to be more restrictive. It makes it easier for them to manipulate to maintain control.
1392  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Peace not just the absence of war, its the presence of justice on: February 28, 2020, 05:50:17 AM
Very true. The saying "no justice no peace" exists for a reason. In an environment where the laws are only enforced on people and not used to protect them, respect for the rule of law is eroded and disregarded. This results in general societal breakdown, and is difficult to recover from as it means rebuilding a culture of rule of law which takes large amounts of time and sustained effort to psychologically reinforce.
1393  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: February 28, 2020, 05:20:27 AM
Reminder: The masks are for those having coughs or sneezes, healthy people should NOT wear masks, those masks won't protect you, its to stop you from spreading it into others. You would do better staying home.

N95 - FFP2 and above masks will in fact help prevent you from being infected, assuming it is a proper fit. Still, you would be better off just staying at home.

Acquiring storable food, water, medicine, etc is highly advisable as there is a very good chance we are going to be seeing quarantines that could last months. The true scope of this pandemic is going to become evident within the next 2 weeks as reality sets in, and people start to panic. There will be shortages of practically everything even if you aren't quarantined. Be prepared.

I think it is even illegal to wear mask in some places in Europe, people been fined for it. The risk of getting infected from touching a subway door handle or lift button in high-rise or other places people touch frequently are significantly higher than someone spit you into the mouth.

Frequent washing of hands is a great cheap way to reduce risk.

Comedy gold, the guy is issupposedly sick/infected, the nurses opinion of the surgical mask.    She is a health professional after all.
https://youtu.be/UCWwOedVkxs


or this 3 bus drivers taking people to quarantine with escorts and everything
[img ]https://i.ibb.co/DwV2sHR/Untitled.jpg[/img]

Obviously direct contact or infected surface contact is a higher threat, but it is still airborne. Speaking of medical professionals, I got my information from an expert in epidemiology I know personally. He is not the type to panic, but he is very concerned and suggesting people prepare.
1394  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: February 28, 2020, 05:13:45 AM
I'm a bit nervous of Bernie TBH because I like him as a person and believe he is sincere like I believe Trump is sincere.. But I could never vote for his positions..

Bloomberg is just wasting a bunch of money..

Don't be. While I agree he has the most support of all the current options, he is also being sabotaged by his own party. Additionally anyone with a few brain cells to rub together knows what he is offering is not possible economically even at a 100% tax rate. Don't underestimate the push back from moderates and liberals that dislike Trump but know Bernie will bern it all down. Also, Bernie just lost himself Florida with his Cuba comments.


My prediction is the Coronavirus will greatly favor Trump in the general election. Here is why:
* Everyone will have to pare back social gatherings, such as dinner fundraisers, and political rallies. This will make it more difficult for the Democrat nominee to both fundraise and get the base energized. Trump already has a huge fundraising advantage. Also, Trump can call a press conference anytime he wishes and pretty much every major news network will broadcast it live because Trump is the President. The democratic nominee is free to call a press conference as he chooses, but it will not command the same level of attention.
* Trump will have the opportunity to show leadership in his handling a possible outbreak (if one occurs), and to act presidential while dealing with it. This is not unlike what Obama did after Superstorm Sandy hit the east coast when Obama was pretending to act presidential.
*Democrats will almost certainly attack any success that Trump has, which will turn off swing voters.


Also, one other thing. One linchpin that Trump has been dependent on is the economy running well. With the Coronavirus taking full responsibility (justified or otherwise) people are going to be less likely to pin the fault on him when the economy inevitably grinds to a halt as a result of supply chains vaporizing. People are also less willing to make big changes in disaster scenarios.
1395  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: February 27, 2020, 07:53:51 PM
Reminder: The masks are for those having coughs or sneezes, healthy people should NOT wear masks, those masks won't protect you, its to stop you from spreading it into others. You would do better staying home.

N95 - FFP2 and above masks will in fact help prevent you from being infected, assuming it is a proper fit. Still, you would be better off just staying at home.

Acquiring storable food, water, medicine, etc is highly advisable as there is a very good chance we are going to be seeing quarantines that could last months. The true scope of this pandemic is going to become evident within the next 2 weeks as reality sets in, and people start to panic. There will be shortages of practically everything even if you aren't quarantined. Be prepared.
1396  Other / Meta / Re: How much time a day do you dedicate to Bitcointalk? on: February 27, 2020, 03:04:34 PM
There are things outside the forum?
1397  Other / Meta / Re: Scrap the trolling rule? on: February 27, 2020, 03:01:37 PM
This rule is pretty much effectively non-existent anyway. I think it is there mostly as an out for when a user literally does nothing but being disruptive of the general use of the forum for other users, but doesn't break any of the other rules.
1398  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: February 27, 2020, 02:53:10 PM
Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.

It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all and instead chose to respond to it in a way that intentionally avoids taking a stance that will expose your own excusing of Vod's trust system abuse, as well as avoids supporting the fact that the rating I left for Vod is perfectly valid. Of course for you, deflection is more of the norm than the exception isn't it?
1399  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: February 27, 2020, 02:02:36 PM
You didn't answer my question. You responded to it, but you didn't actually answer it.

I did. Try reading it again. You not liking the answer doesn't make it magically disappear.

Oh I am a compulsive liar now?

Not just "now", you've been like that as long as I can remember. It goes really well with the "never wrong" shtick to reject any responsibility for the bullshit you spout.

Interesting you never called me a "compulsive liar" until now. Sounds a lot like you are just taking what I said about Vod and being refractory. FYI, just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a liar, not that you care to make the distinction.



Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.

Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.
1400  Economy / Reputation / Re: Little Mouse and RapTarX - What is this connection? on: February 27, 2020, 01:59:06 PM
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Sure! Nice reason  Wink
Definitely a possibility. This is a good example of why objective standards of evidence are a good idea before rating.
I have a question for both of you, have you read the evidence? Let me show you right here  Wink
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I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

What confusion is there if you are a member of the Bitvest campaign and he said that he had been participating as a full member in the Roobet campaign? Maybe he copied RapTarX's post to apply to himself, so what about these lines?
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I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

Is he mistaken even in a campaign that he's not in? Did he forget temporarily the campaign he was in?

Nice reason  Wink

Damned! I spend more time writing, morvillz7z  Tongue

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.
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