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18861  Economy / Speculation / Re: how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 09:11:50 PM
Does coinabul not change their BTC denominated prices? If you want and buy on a drop won't you just need to buy more? Seems better to just do it now. Or if you want to wait, buy the coins now and buy the gold when you need to spend fewer of the coins.

How often do they update the price?  And how much gold do they have for sale?  I wonder if somebody could run the price up by 10% and then immediately buy gold with bitcoins.  And Walla!  You just bought 10% more gold than your dollars would have otherwise.  No?

it would seem they update their price very often and they seem to use the last price. so ya you could do that.

i wonder how high you can get the price if you plan to  buy 10 oz's of gold ... you'd need like 5,000 btc's
18862  Economy / Speculation / Re: how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 08:45:36 PM
Does coinabul not change their BTC denominated prices? If you want and buy on a drop won't you just need to buy more? Seems better to just do it now. Or if you want to wait, buy the coins now and buy the gold when you need to spend fewer of the coins.

right, only problem is Canadians are very bullish at the moment and if i want to get 600 coins off My market it would mean buying them at about 3.25 each, and then "selling" them to coinabul at 3.20

i just check the Canadian market again... price dropped to more reasonable levels! time to buy stuff with bitcoins
18863  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why a Stable BTC Price is Good on: December 18, 2011, 08:35:47 PM
Stable price is not good, it means no more people adopt bitcoin.

A such low price, means that few ppl use it.

Funny, I think the exact opposite.

Why would a merchant want to adopt bitcoins if the price was volatile? Too risky.

Think about it...
If you buy $30 sunglasses with 10 bitcoins today, and then bitcoin lost $1 in value the next day, merchant only has $20 nopw and lost all his profit.


the market is very young... and very volatile, but this will change, once things like derivatives are introduced, volatility will be meaningless to merchants

besides most merchants are more then willing to take a 10% hit if it means more customers

you don't see any merchant charging more when you use VISA and not cash.

I totally agree, with you.  I was just pointing out that a stable price, like what we have been experiencing the last few weeks, would make merchants more inclined to trust BTC more as a valid currency.

agreed.

what a merchent would like to see, would be stable prices with high volume.

if we could see a 50k coin DUMP that would be quickly picked up and not effect price much. that would be cool
18864  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why a Stable BTC Price is Good on: December 18, 2011, 07:36:06 PM
Stable price is not good, it means no more people adopt bitcoin.

A such low price, means that few ppl use it.

Funny, I think the exact opposite.

Why would a merchant want to adopt bitcoins if the price was volatile? Too risky.

Think about it...
If you buy $30 sunglasses with 10 bitcoins today, and then bitcoin lost $1 in value the next day, merchant only has $20 nopw and lost all his profit.


the market is very young... and very volatile, but this will change, once things like derivatives are introduced, volatility will be meaningless to merchants

besides most merchants are more then willing to take a 10% hit if it means more customers

you don't see any merchant charging more when you use VISA and not cash.
18865  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why a Stable BTC Price is Good on: December 18, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
Stable price is not good, it means no more people adopt bitcoin.

A such low price, means that few ppl use it.

doesn't it mean that there is adequate demand for the 7200 coins per day being printed right now, and that people in fact ARE adopting bitcoin?


a good % of the 7,200 coins that are "printed" each day are not sold on the market right away, (some might be waiting years)
but in any case, almost always there is over 10,000 coins traded pre day.
so ya their is in fact more and more people adopting bitcoin

and with the projects like bitcoindeals.com - i think we'll start seeing more and more people really using bitcoin for gift buying and stuff

lets look at how facebook adoption came about



just wait in a few years their will be 4billion coins traded daily  
and not one will be traded of USD Wink

 
18866  Economy / Speculation / Re: This lack of volatility almost makes Bitcoin look... civilized on: December 18, 2011, 04:42:57 PM
18867  Economy / Speculation / Re: how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
1) to support something i believe in

I see. That's totally awesome then. When you said you need to buy Bitcoins in order to buy gold, I was thinking that it was your only option. Now it sounds more like you want to buy Bitcoins in order to buy gold. A slight difference.

I say go for it. I enjoy both. Gold is a little bit more fun to hold in your hand.

ill be watching the gold market closely.
18868  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: bitcoindeals.com - A F%@K load of products!! :) on: December 18, 2011, 04:23:00 PM
Lets see how much time until they realise that nobody buys and close the site...

well they have some really good deals.

and a wide range of products ...

when they start shipping international I'll buy a lots of things

i just wish i could of done all my Xmas shopping their ...  next year!
18869  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: bitcoindeals.com - A F%@K load of products!! :) on: December 18, 2011, 07:18:40 AM
1 problem when trying to add my address for shipping  Angry

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Please fix the following input errors:

    We could not locate your address, please double check it and try again.

... only ships to US, international shipping coming soon! woot i love bitcoin!
18870  Economy / Trading Discussion / bitcoindeals.com - A F%@K load of products!! :) on: December 18, 2011, 07:12:23 AM
http://www.bitcoindeals.com

anyone buy stuff here yet?
18871  Economy / Speculation / Re: how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 06:26:52 AM
to make it clear
i need to buy bitcoins in order to buy gold.

You do? I've never heard of this situation before and it would be fantastic if you could elaborate.

Edit: I don't mean to pry. I simply found it interesting that someone needed Bitcoins over fiat in order to purchase gold.

yes i know it sounds CraZy!

why would i buy bitcoin and then buy gold with those bitcoin??

1) to support something i believe in
2) to get something i think could be fun to look at, the gold...
3) to save money by buying my bitcoin on the cheep!

...  why would gold price be so high anyway, its not like we will ever run out of gold ?! gold is a ponzi scheme SELL SELL SELL! lol

now I'm having second thoughts about investing in gold .... maybe i should just buy 600 bitcoins and let that be the end of it?
18872  Economy / Speculation / Re: This lack of volatility almost makes Bitcoin look... civilized on: December 18, 2011, 06:04:42 AM
You're reading too much into this.  Look at the volumes:
People are leaving for the holidays... anyone see those straight lines on mtgoxlive?
When all the traders and speculators come back, we'll see real price movement again.  

I like this explanation, the speculator are taking a 2 week break...
Question now becomes where they holding coins or USD b4 leaving?  Tongue

I'd like to think we've had stable prices because there is a lot of poeple buying things with their bitcoins

customer buys bitcoins at market rate and buys a gift with bitcoins right way
merchant sells the bitcoins at market rate right away

if enough of this is going on... the current price wtv it may be, is supported & stabilized.

I really should buy some bitcoins just to buy gifts.... i like buying things with my visa card because i get 1% cash back  Tongue
18873  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tax when buying bitcoins in an exchange on: December 18, 2011, 05:32:51 AM
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As for BTC buyers - tax paid from capital gains?


wait a minute what about capital loss?
can i claim that on my taxes!?



18874  Economy / Speculation / Re: how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 04:59:55 AM
I see, I misinterpreted the question. I think we will see 3.45 again so if a higher order will be more beneficial i say place it at 3.25. I think we will see that number in the next couple of days for sure too.
to make it clear
i need to buy bitcoins in order to buy gold.

i need about 600 bitcoins
18875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cheaper In Bitcoins - Redefining its game on: December 18, 2011, 04:52:34 AM

What's your (the reader) opus? More thinking outside of the box is clearly needed!


buy some silk road products and Imagine your self outside the box Shocked
18876  Economy / Speculation / Re: how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 04:37:24 AM
i want to buy some gold from coinabul

could putting a bid of 600 coins at 3.15 save me a bunch on my 1oz gold bar?

It could... but then again it might not.

If you are willing to wait I think we will see 3.10 again but it might be a week or two. On the long term I think we are on the way up but i have my lowest buy orders at 3.15500.

I would not be surprised at all to see 3.15 in the next week so if that will save you money I say go for it.

maybe i should wait for my 50 coins to be worth 1,600$?   Roll Eyes
18877  Economy / Speculation / how else is waiting for a sizeable drop to buy more coins again? on: December 18, 2011, 04:12:25 AM
i want to buy some gold from coinabul

could putting a bid of 600 coins at 3.15 save me a bunch on my 1oz gold bar?
18878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cheaper In Bitcoins - Redefining its game on: December 18, 2011, 02:03:04 AM
Cry man this is disturbing when a brilliant site like CIB can't make it ....
I think my idea was right its just the execution was wrong. It was kind of over zealous of me to think I could compete with amazon or other popular stores just by going off the pure Bitcoin purchases support. The idea was that people would at first support my site just becuase it was a good way to go with Bitcoins and buy things. Then with the profits I would put it back right into the store to lower prices by finding better options as far as suppliers go.

But I'm not letting go of it just yet just changing the execution. Looking for niche Bitcoin products... things nobody can purchase with fiat money - PM me if you have somthing good.

your probably right the best kind of retail business for bitcoin would be a small store specializing in hard to find / high quality products.  

good luck
18879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Can One Bitcoin Do? on: December 17, 2011, 07:39:47 PM

Or:

No One Man Can Control IT...

'One man', opposed to 'man', otherwise women are excluded. One Man = Human Race. I capitalize both letters in 'IT' by accident, but...



this is like the stratrek intro song...

at first it was "where no man has gone b4"
and then they changed it to " where no one has gone b4"

oh come on ....
if i say "man is stupid." i'm calling the human race including women stupid

but that not right, we should say

"men are stupid" .... as to not include the women

18880  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: December 17, 2011, 06:21:50 PM

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