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18181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin on: April 05, 2012, 01:54:58 AM
Ok, so TechCrunch I think gave a good run down of the differences:

I'll post relevant quotes from: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/04/royal-canadian-mints-mintchip-looks-to-officially-digitize-cash/

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The Royal Canadian Mint is hoping to create such a system: a multi-platform, simple, and secure alternative to cash. Others around the net have likened it to Bitcoin, but that’s really an inapt comparison. MintChip isn’t a virtual currency, it’s a virtual wallet, something which has been tried before. But, naturally enough, they hope to succeed where others have failed. But are they writing a check they can’t cash?

Briefly, it must be explained why MintChip is nothing like Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a fundamentally different style of currency: a regulated “resource” that uses a totally different method of exchange than cash. It’s very secure in a way, but the aspects that give it that security also make it foreign to existing and familiar payment methods, and by extention, users. Furthermore, its value fluctuates wildly, making it unsuitable for everyday purchases like coffee and cab fare.

MintChip, named after the Mint, the chip enabling the system, and perhaps inadvertently the ice cream flavor, is just a way of securely exchanging Canadian dollars (or at some point, they would hope, other currencies) by means of trusted hardware and straightforward accounting. The actual chip can be fitted into a number of devices, from micro SD cards to POS systems. MintChip value is transferred onto a chip by a MintChip broker, and can then be transferred independently between chips, online or off.

They claim the system is secure and anonymous, though any system that relies on trusted hardware and intermediaries is vulnerable to spoofing and duplication. And anonymity is not an easy promise either: as long as amounts and transfers are tied to account numbers, and account numbers are tied to identities and cards used to purchase funds, anonymity is far from assured. It’s not clear from the spec when and how long account and transaction information is stored.

The reliance on trusted, independent hardware seems like the weak link here, and all it will take is a few hackers (on their own or backed by bank and credit interests) to make public a tool that fools either brokers or merchants into thinking a transaction has taken place. Not a trivial task, but far from impossible. This gives the whole system a bad smell for anyone looking to adopt it. Credit card fraud is rampant, admittedly, but that’s more a function of the system’s widespread use and acceptance. MintChip doesn’t have the advantage of being accepted everywhere.

Thoughts?


MintChip has gr8 potential, and anyone here that cant recognize that lives in a bitcoin bubble. bitcoin's approach to digital cash is fundamentally better, and actually is a new currency system. But this is partly why it is so hard for people to accept it.

people will see like this:
 bitcoin is wild and unfamiliar, and MintChip is the same old money they trust, in a digital form for connivance.

in any-case MintChip is exciting news, more so for bitcoiners then anyone else.

18182  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Building A fully decentralized, automated, and anonymous bitcoin exchange! on: April 05, 2012, 01:34:11 AM
Is there any mention of bitcoin on that site, to much effort scanning through another website.

their is a thread called bitcoin http://mintchipchallenge.com/forum_topics/757

LoL that website and demo instructions etc could just be replaced with bitcoin cause essentially thats what they "introduce"

the main difference with MintChip and bitcoin is that bitcoin stands alone without anything backing it, MintChip appears to be Fiat money in its digital form.
18183  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Building A fully decentralized, automated, and anonymous bitcoin exchange! on: April 05, 2012, 12:27:56 AM
Check out the Mint Chip video > http://developer.mintchipchallenge.com/index.php

This is very much like bitcoin, in that it is digital cash that can be transferred from person to person without a third party.

Using this new technology we will finally be able to implement a fully decentralized, automated, and anonymous bitcoin exchange.

I plan to use the .NET api for mint chip along with bitcoind to create the first fully decentralized bitcoin exchange!
18184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin on: April 05, 2012, 12:13:08 AM
we might be able to use this mint chip to finally be able to implement a fully decentralized, automated, and anonymous  bitcoin exchange!
18185  Economy / Speculation / Re: hello again !! !! on: April 04, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
Wait, did we hit 5 2 days ago without me noticing?

ya so 5.00 isn't a magical number that will ensue panic buying.
panicking is so 2011....  lol

And, what do you think will happen to the price once block reward halves?

Nothing, not even a speculative bubble, at best price will rise slowly more easily

18186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin on: April 04, 2012, 07:30:09 PM
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The Challenge

The Royal Canadian MintChip Challenge invites software developers to create innovative digital payment applications using MintChip, a...Winners will receive approximately $50,000 in gold bullion from the Mint as well as promotional exposure....blablabla

Challenge Goals:

    Create software applications and proofs of concept utilizing MintChip
    Highlight potential advantages of the technology and digital currency

i say we make it possible to buy bitcoin with mint chip, and submit that as our proofs of concept utilizing MintChip!

Owned   Cool

the future is going to be filled with "new money systems" i think bitcoin should be prepared to embrace all these systems, and hope we come out as the Gold standard of digital money   
18187  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] $15 American Express Gift Card on: April 04, 2012, 05:52:38 AM
You're selling a 15 dollar gift card... for 17 dollars

no it much worst then you think he doesn't want 17$ he wants 3.5BTC  Kiss
18188  Economy / Speculation / Re: The storm is building up! on: April 04, 2012, 02:51:09 AM
I hate to bust your bubble but there is going to be downward movement for the bitcoin price.  However it is possible that the price go up or maybe continue to go sideways.

I hate to disagree with you but it had to be said. 

how long have you been watching bitcoin?
18189  Economy / Speculation / Re: how much will take to squeeze this ? on: April 03, 2012, 10:32:46 PM
you only need to get the top snowball rolling it gets bigger after  Wink

right and i guess way more then 9000BTC would be squeezed if it get to 4.4

but I'm betting no one has the balls to do this
18190  Economy / Speculation / Re: how much will take to squeeze this ? on: April 03, 2012, 10:18:51 PM
so bring the price down to ... 4.4 and 9000BTC will be squeezed?

anyone wana sell 10,000BTC and try to buy back 10,000BTC 10 cents lower? pretty please  Cheesy

ops make that 100,000BTC
18191  Economy / Speculation / The storm is building up! on: April 03, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
both Ask and Bid walls are getting bigger fast,

expect a major move coming to a chart near you!

Up down, sideways.... no clue, one thing is for sure we will start seeing more volume
18192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Catalysts on: April 03, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
the bottom line is as long as PvsNP is not solved bitcoin will continue to work and grow.

That's a bit exaggerated don't you think?

as far as i can see bitcoin is growing.... and that's because the fundamentals continue to be true, and unbreakable.
as long as this is true, bitcoin will continue to grow.

paypal is exaggerated
bitcoin is underrated
(i mean by common people, i guess people hear might see bitcoin for the all powerful unstoppable force that it is  Wink )

no?

"...we can easily dismiss most of them as totally wrong, in-valid, not really a problem, or just missing the point."

ROTFLMFAO, tell us more about yourself  Grin
Roll Eyes send me a bitcoin and ill tell you the meaning of life
18193  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Getting Women Naked *and* Empowered through Bitcoin on: April 03, 2012, 07:32:21 PM
posting to this, to get away from the picture above

















your welcome,
18194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Catalysts on: April 03, 2012, 06:14:34 PM
You can add the empty block mining assholes to negative news. Lets hope that will be dealt with somehow.

I think the best news currently is the reuters article, however it hasn't been successful (I would have been if it were picked up by various news outlets worldwide like reuters stuff usually does).
It was there, at least something. But that's only very short term impact anyway.

news bashing bitcoin has no effect anymore. at this point everyone understands the points they bring up, and we can easily dismiss most of them as totally wrong, in-valid, not really a problem, or just missing the point.

the bottom line is as long as PvsNP is not solved bitcoin will continue to work and grow.
18195  Other / Off-topic / Re: I still didn't get it on: April 03, 2012, 06:07:24 AM
I need some medication in Las Vegas on July 27th weekend..

Anyone wanna help ? Smiley

MDMA and LSD are not meds, lol

Doh!, I guess Ill just settle for help on green..

maybe Tuxvant can help you out, i think hes in Las Vegas
18196  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Announce] Coindl.com - a new digital downloads marketplace powered by Bitcoin on: April 03, 2012, 04:46:59 AM
please review Coindl.com at http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/site.php?site_id=845
18197  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANNOUNCE] BitcoinNordic: Instant Bitcoins with Scandinavian credit cards on: April 03, 2012, 04:35:06 AM
please review this new site at http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/site.php?site_id=844
18198  Other / Off-topic / Re: I still didn't get it on: April 03, 2012, 04:09:46 AM
I need some medication in Las Vegas on July 27th weekend..

Anyone wanna help ? Smiley

MDMA and LSD are not meds, lol
18199  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [NSFW] Girls of Reddit's r/GoneWild on: April 03, 2012, 03:30:22 AM

It looks like we have a dictatorship.

The second someone comes up with another forum for girls to post their photos for Bitcoins, better than the /r/girlsgonebitcoin subbreddit or not, stripcoin.com will be there to direct new bitcoin users to that and every other site that is competing with you. That is the point of stripcoin - to teach people how to use bitcoin to their benefit. Go ahead and make a better mouse trap, and I'll be there pushing people your direction.

That doesn't sound anything like a dictatorship. Unless you'd like to take control of the content at stripcoin too, which would make you the dictator.

want me to help program stripcoin.com to be a place for girls to make a profile, upload photos/videos, and have live streaming shows?
18200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market Sentiment index Poll April on: April 03, 2012, 03:27:34 AM
you can select both? Grin
u know some ppl have double personality

looking at the poll at least 2 people have this disorder
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