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Economy / Economics / Re: Fractional-reserve banking in Bitcoins - nothing prevents it!
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on: June 26, 2011, 05:19:27 AM
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The thing that 'stops' fractional reserve backing is called 'going out of business'. The problem is that banks who would fail are magically saved with our money instead of failing and allowing more responsible banks to win customers. It's to the point now that you have to participate in the way overboard fractional reserve plus insurance scheme to get permission to operate at all.
Now to be clear, with BItcoin, you can have unbacked balances at a Bitcoin bank denominated in Bitcoin, but you can't actually have the extra Bitcoins in your client at the same time like you can in a dollar bank. The base money is strictly limited with Bitcoin, but not with the dollar. If dollar banks have to give people their dollars simultaneously they are printed.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses
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on: June 26, 2011, 04:53:53 AM
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You're not storing the results anywhere, so using the same algorithm the exact same result for any given address could be obtained even with a machine that never went online and got the blockchain transfered via sneakernet? Awesome! Though, is there the risk the order of very recent addresses will be rearranged as the whole network acknowledges things from different directions or does that order gets stable fast enough for that only be a concern with major blockchain forks? That's right. A reorg could cause problems. Likely the problem would be a simple "not found" at worst, but if screwing up people's firstbits was the point of the attack someone could slip a different one in earlier. This is not protected against now. One way would be not counting an address as "in" the chain until 6 or 10 blocks or something and refusing to return an address until then, probably better is a simple warning that the address is near the tip of the chain. Or even less obtrusive would be to watch for a reorg and only warn when one recently happened.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: deepbit taking over? is there any effort to keep track of invalidated blocks?
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on: June 26, 2011, 01:31:14 AM
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It's a real issue imo. Pool operators should have the right incentive to fix it, it's them who are going to get waterboarded until they give up the codes to change the blocks to work on.
I get that they don't want to give up the size and profits, but there are still things they could do. If you have good rep and software people will come to you and you can assign them to a subpool over which you don't have direct control, but can stop assigning people too if they suck (downtime, weird rules, etc). Subpool operators can take a slice of profit and give part to the main portal.
Oh, there is the set up where individuals set their own work. Iirc correctly that is a bulletproof system.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If the exchange to BTC was irreversible - would you buy BTC?
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on: June 26, 2011, 12:04:22 AM
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If there was a way to stop convertibility to any particular thing it suggests something very wrong, but ignoring that, I do get some value from knowing I can get my local currency for them and so I would hold fewer if I couldn't. Otoh, other people might then undervalue them and I could get more for the same cost so maybe I would have extra.
edit: It really doesn't matter though since you could buy the easiest to convert stuff, it just adds a hassle.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt.Gox, one more day before we can trade again
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on: June 25, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
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Do you have a crystal ball you could lend them so they would know what and when to announce?
Crystal ball or not they obviously don't know how long stuff takes them. Since they don't know they could stop saying that they do. The way they are doing it is worse than saying they just don't know.
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Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to sell/buy bitcoins without fees?
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on: June 25, 2011, 12:23:51 PM
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I am new on the BTC world and only know about websites (MtGox, Tradehill...) that offer trading by paying some (small? really dunno) fees. The question would be: Is there any other good (secure, reliable) way to trade online? If that had been asked before and the answer is already on the forums, I would be gratefull if someone points me to it.
Thanks & cheers!
You generally get the best price on the most active trading sites, the fees are negligible. With MtGox via Dwolla you are looking at 25 cents and 0.3% right now.
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Thought experiment. Coding a stable exchange rate.
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on: June 24, 2011, 10:48:16 PM
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There is not AN exchange rate. Are you going to measure it relative to some currency that could die? What if all exchangers going from USD to BTC are murdered by the government and so ZLT exchanges are used? Likely in the future there will be regulated and unregulated exchanges with slightly different prices due to difficulty/risk of arbitrage. Or simply different prices because of different fees and methods of payment.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Transactions Too Easy To Get Robbed?
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on: June 24, 2011, 05:03:58 PM
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I was thinking, I love bitcoin - its a great way to do business. But a problem I see with it is the fact that its so easy to get robbed. I mean, you buy some goods with bitcoin over the net, send the BC and nothing arrives... waddya do? At least with cash you have a chance to bash the guy or see the goods and with paypal you get chargeback and reputation.
A transaction isn't that sort of thing, it would be like "yellow submarine" by the Beatles not arriving. You could just send it again, it's a bit of data.
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