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3341  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Borrowing fiat against BTC on: June 17, 2017, 06:54:29 AM
Is there any exchange where I can borrow fiat (usd or eur) against BTC? I know that Bitfinex offers swap market, however, you can use the money only for trading. I am looking for fiat withdrawal.

Why would you want to stress yourself in making this happen. I understand what you trying to do here but you cant eat your cake and have it just convert your btc to fiat and use it for whatever you use it for since you have that in excess. Even if you visit the loan section of the forum, you get to borrow btc if you have enough collateral though.
3342  Economy / Exchanges / Re: I don't understand.. on: June 16, 2017, 07:36:37 PM
People often say exchange are risky because one does not have access to his private keys and other secrets stuff.
My Question is why are this keys safe? What if the wallet I have my Bitcoin in dissappears or goes out of business  what will I do with the keys??
I guessed the reason for saying that your private key is important is because with your keys you are really sure you are in control although nobody knows what will happen if bitcoin disappears in which ilthe likelihood of that is slim. You don't want to compare that with a situation where the exchange site might just wake up and park up which makes the money gone forever despite the fact that bitcoin is still available in other people wallets.
3343  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BItcoin needs to die on: June 16, 2017, 10:28:07 AM
What use is Bitcoin if in 9 years you cant even buy groceries with this shit

You cant build a business on bitcoin because of the volatility and even if you try to runa business on bitcoin you have to wait forever for a transaction to be sent

whats the point of bitcoin, if you cant do anything with this shit?

I understand the frustration you are exerting now based on the fact that its 9 years already but you need to understand that even the banking sector that has been in existence for ages is still in a penetration stage in which majority of the population in some countries are still being coerced or induced to be in the bank net. Bitcoin is still 9 years and dont also forget that bitcoin relies on necessary infrastructures to flourish which is not something that can be achieved in that few years.
3344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is Complete Garbage!!! on: June 16, 2017, 07:40:38 AM
After reading the article, I wouldn't blame the author because he knows the reason why he reached that conclusion. Even though I don't agree with all his opinion but some of it is quite worth pondering over which is the excess valuation beyond the real value and this is something every one needs to be cautioned about in taking decisions as to whether to invest in bitcoin or not.
3345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Republican Congressmen Mass Shooting @ Baseball Practice (6.14.17) on: June 16, 2017, 12:32:27 AM
Shooting in America is really getting to a point where it demands attention and its high time government took a real stance  on gun control. What we have heard in the past is the few weeks morning and promises which with eventually die down because people are busy to be preoccupied with things of that nature. But now that it has affected a Republican congressman I hope partisanship can be put aside and the real decision is taken.
3346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Money Laundering laws are like gun control. It is not there to stop the bad guys on: June 15, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
I find it strange that so many people just accept money laundering laws and KYC as just something that needs to be done to stop the bad guys. No big deal because you're not a bad guy so the government should know every transaction you make because...terrorists and drug dealers.

Just like gun control laws its not to stop the bad guys. Its about controlling the people and being able to stop whomever they want so the government can gain more and more power.

Now every time a terrorist attacks they use it as an excuse to pass more laws to control the flow of money just like how every time there is a shooting somewhere they use it as an excuse to pass more gun laws.

Their ideal is a world where they only allow you to spend money on whatever they allow along with having no way to fight back if you want control over your own life.

I don't see any fault in government actions simply because they only see the situation and choose to exploit it to the maximum and push forward their own selfish agenda. The people to be blame are those individuals that either not informed enough that you cannot fight for "God" or those that thinks killing people is a way to derive joy.
3347  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Online Pharmacy Accepting Bitcoin! Worldwide Shipping! on: June 15, 2017, 05:50:08 PM

Good afternoon, dear friends, what crypto currency you find it more convenient to pay?

Bitcoins for sure. Nothing else compares to it right now. But you can always choose to use ETH, LTC or XMR as they are also used by some people.

About this service, two things. First is, why would people even bother using this service if they are just looking for paracetamol or other over the counter stuff. Second, this leads to just one conclusion, people will use this service for purposes of buying prescription medicine without prescription.

I really don't understand how services like selling of pharmaceutical products will work considering the amount of regulations surrounding the industry and several government officials around every point of entry into the country. Aside that, the cost of shipping and the goods I am sure will be more expensive than buying locally. In addition to that is the consideration of quality and potency of the drugs if it eventually gets to its final destination.
3348  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: June 15, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
Suppose by mistake if we clear the browser cookies after sending coins, is there any way to recover back our coins or it's gone permanently?
ChipMixer displays recovery link that can be used in case you lose cookies. If you use Electrum plugin, payment comment includes recovery link.
You can also contact support and give us your deposit transaction details. Do that before your 48h session ends and your bitcoins will be fine.

There was only one support request on this matter and it was solved well.
Hi i would like to ask if we accidentally close the browser if i am using incognito how can i recover the session?
The link given is this https://chipmixer.com/session/step1 and i tried it to restored again in other browser but it gives me other result and notice the bitcoin address for receiving was changed..
How we can back up our session if we are already had mixed coin there?
They just answered the same thing in the post you quoted above...

"You can also contact support and give us your deposit transaction details. Do that before your 48h session ends and your bitcoins will be fine."

I don't even expect anyone to wait that long before reporting any anomaly in his transaction. If it were to be me, immediately I realised things are not going the way they ought to go regarding transactions no matter how small, I am hitting support immediately no reply after reasonable time, I am buzzing you all over again until I get response or give up.
3349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First Bitcoin on: June 15, 2017, 04:15:00 PM
This is the question to all who have at least one bitcoin and did not bought it. How long did it actually took you to own one bitcoin?
Only to people who accumulate bitcoin with either services, or earn through signature campaigns etc.
Asking because I'm interested in knowing the average time to make one bitcoin?

In answering questions like this, the first thing you needed is being trustworthy and wait in line not to be in a hurry. When you are trust worthy in the services you choose to offer even signature campaigns, then you will be hired or even have more clients through referral and before you know the target of 1 btc will be your starting point for what you will now be aiming at.
3350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reason for Bitcoin price fall on: June 15, 2017, 01:30:43 PM
Do any body know the exact reason for fall of bitcoin price? It has almost fallen $500 in the past three days.Any specific reason?

From my own point of view, no one can say for sure that this is the actual reason why the price increases or decreases, as we all make guessed statement or try to link it to one thing or the other. The simple fact is whether increasing or decreasing just see everything as an opportunity to make something out of it. And never forget the golden rule not to invest not more than you can afford to lose in the crypto world.
3351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The king is already dead. on: June 15, 2017, 10:54:08 AM
Well well,

I announced it before, but now its official: The king Bitcoin is death.

Who killed it? miners with their big fees day after day. its 7 dollars right now and gonna increase day after day.

Bitcoin is no longer suited for small transactions, speed stransactions. Peoples with small account are no longer welcome by Bitcoin miners.

Ethereum gonna be the new king for some months, but he is like bitcoin.
With increasing fees gonna be dead soon too.

When i said dead it means no longer number 1.

And then a third new king gonna came and stay there for maybe years, a king Altcoin with free transactions fees, very speed and secure transactions.

Maybe this king  is already there: IOTA .
With something innovative than the very slow and high fees blockchains system.

It is sure that IOTA gonna be the next king, and from there the real decentralised decade of Altcoins gonna start, with more projects more decentralised than IOTA to try to be the Futur King.

I'm not an IOTA, Bitcoin, Ethereum defender, i dont give a shit about them. my only concerns are a fair,secure, too much decentralised, with no fees coins to be the new model.



Its unfortunate things have to get this bad before the miners do what is right and I feel its because they are really not concerned about the growth of bitcoin what they want is to make the money, then cash out to another project whether the initial project dies or lives, its none of their business because their own profit motive has been achieved and I feel this is something that might befall Ethereum anytime soon as its also growing this high but its a lesson for every developer planning to launch the next big thing.
3352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you in favor of same sex marriage? on: June 15, 2017, 06:26:34 AM
Some countries or state have been accepting this kind of marriage. Here in the Philippines, we do not recognize it as legal or something like that. How about in your country?
Just like Chris Rock said in one of his jokes with defence to same sex marriage, " gay people have right to be miserable in marriage just like straight people" even though my country has taken a stand against it, personally I feel people should have the right to their private life and sexuality is one of those that they should be given unalienated right to enjoy.
3353  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BankBTC.cc 2% for 100 hours? on: June 14, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
I don't think anyone needs a soothsayer to be sure that the site OP is advertising is a scam site which would made some people who are greedy and looking for easy way to make money poorer by loosing the little they have to those individuals that have thrown morality out of their way of life. I hope one day people will get the exposure that things like this is not sustainable and the promoters starts losing because they could not even get the money spent in building the site in the first place.
3354  Economy / Services / Re: Greetings to all people who bet! on: June 14, 2017, 04:25:44 AM
If you are actually serious with your offer to be "exclusive" to us, then you need to understand how things are done here before posting. Since you are offering something related to a gambling site as someone has clearly pointed out, then there is a particular section of the forum where you create an announcement thread, your claims will be verified, before placing a trust on whatever services you are offering before it can be explored to the fullest.
3355  Economy / Exchanges / Re: localtrade.pro and livecoin is a scam on: June 13, 2017, 09:24:33 PM
I am actually concerned about the livecoin aspect which I am yet to see in your discussion and the reason for that is because I have used livecoin.net  several times and I have no issues using their services although times without number they always have downtime in which the site sometimes go offline even for several hours but they have not started scamming as at the last time I used their services.
3356  Economy / Economics / Re: Spain's banking crisis flared up again on: June 13, 2017, 07:57:21 PM
I see another round of financial crises in our eyes all over again because its seems all these people that have been saddled with the responsibility of managing this economy of ours are just being successful at running it to the ground. The difficulty banks are facing is not limited to Spain alone but other countries as well and those ones that seems they are still standing are even grasping for breath.
3357  Economy / Securities / Re: Invest Your Bitcoins To Offline Business! on: June 13, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
Yes, people will be interested in investing for offline businesses but you need to show your credibility first.
Also, when offline, people tend to look for businesses which are in the same locality and one can drop in to see your activities physically.

Hello. Thanks for your response. Yes ofcourse i can provide all credibility with seriuos invester. Physically business meet is possible. I can provide little about our activity. Pls look.

Bussines name Autoparts123
Stated in: Lithuania
Information about business registration:
http://rekvizitai.vz.lt/m/imone/autoparts123/
eBay shop: uab-autoparts123 ( www.autoparts123.lt )
Phone number: +37067436972

Regards

With what you have here it seems your business is legit which I don't have anything against but the issue about the community is we like to trust our own and the trust is not something cheap but built for several years which obviously you don't have and I doubt if any one would want to patronise except those who are staying very close to you and can verify everything you have said and don't forget this is a global space.
3358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: When iran water crisis hit, trap them and let them all die on: June 13, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
Allowing people die without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves is not part of the ideals of humanity even in times of war there are some basic principles that when you win then win fairly and not by manipulating their natural emergency as a weapon to defat them. Aside that, the set of people that would be killed in that crime against humanity would include women and children that are very much innocent of what ever crimes their fathers have committed.
3359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where would society be without the internet? on: June 13, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
Although internet has come with its own disadvantages but for me, its the best thing that can happen to humanity because I cannot just imagine myself without it. I can stay indoors for a week just give me power food and most importantly internet. I wont even ask you when you will let me go. The internet is the depository of knowledge where anyone can tap into and I am going to harness such to the fullest.
3360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "All 17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia hacked the US election" on: June 13, 2017, 10:00:00 AM
I see this as basically a confirmation that Russia is superior to US or else these calibre of leaders are just making fun of themselves all because they don't want to move on over the loss of Hillary in as as much I am not a fan of the current president but the issue is if they are able to prove that Russia indeed hacked the election, then its slap on US that proves itself to be the most powerful country in the world to be vulnerable to something as sensitive as the election.
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