[ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage

[fonzerrellie]

The current price of Sia which is 11 satoshi is quite depressing.
From a previous peak of 36 satoshis 11 days ago and now down to this.

Now is the time to load up on coins. Soon as new wallet releases with fixes and the word spreads the price will move back up. Its just one of those coins that reflects the state of development with SIA. Which is completely unlike all other coins that way. 

Most coins have high and lows, even good ones...

now is the time to have patience, lol I bought my first batch on Polo at 29 then when it dropped buying up more brought my average price per coin way down  it seems to be a solid long term project... like minerman said highs and lows, buy on the lows then if/when it spikes sell a few to take a bit of profit but I have a feeling you'll want to hold onto the majority cause in a bit of time 30 or 40 could be the new floor lol it is cryptoland after all ya never know

[Zer0Sum]

I have recovered my "lost" (not really lost) coins by switching back to 3.3.3 (I think these are recently mined).
Don't erase old wallets when you upgrade.

I think the dev team should focus on the good functionning of the coin before improving file sharing : this include fixing problems on the wallet, use of a good difficulty adjustement algo (the difficulty is too slow in adjustements : you may see the delta algo used by guldencoin for instance) to keep the block time more regular...

On the other hand, I still believe on this projetc and I have invested a bit more thanks to the rather low prices.

We've spent the entire past two weeks working on the problems you've been complaining about (UNRELIABLE WALLETS)...
And done nothing with file storage or mining pools since people have been having trouble.

Hey, man, I like this project and think Dev is competent and this could be a home run...
BUT the wallet has to be rock solid and a priority or nothing else really matters...
Which is what the highly efficient Alt Coin Market is telling you with the 12-13 sat price.

Personally, I will never move any coins from Polo until the wallet issues are long gone.

That said, keep up the good work...
You have a chance to eat Storj's lunch and would match their cap at about 60 sats = 500% move.

[Trial]

Somebody will answer where Sia a wallet keeps the downloaded blocks?

[akaman]

it works! ... (just gotta watch that little "siad" thingy) just shut that down properly if needed and its all good  

Can you elaborate? I ran the 0.4.2 GUI and after shutting down noticed siad still running. I killed the process and when the GUI is restarted get the error message "siad exited with code: 0"

How exactly does one go about shutting down siad "properly" (linux?) and is there a way to recover from these corruption issues?

Edit: I managed to remove the consensus file and start over. That seems to fix it.

Question: Where can I find a mining how-to? I downloaded Sia-UI-v0.4.2-beta-linux64.tar.gz which does not seem to include a miner. I've seen GUI screenshots with a Miner tab, which my GUI also is missing. How do I go about accessing the mining options in the GUI?

[akaman]

Somebody will answer where Sia a wallet keeps the downloaded blocks?

In your Sia folder, under /resources/app/Sia/consensus/

[akaman]

Is there an estimate of how many Sia nodes are currently running?

[Trial]

Thanks. How to create the address in a wallet? Wallet 0.4.2

[Trial]

All thanks. I understood.

[Trial]

It mining began? Why there isn't enough information? So has to be?

[Zer0Sum]

Is there an estimate of how many Sia nodes are currently running?

Yes, right now 32.

This is an awesome feature... click on "hosts" after you go to the explorer.

http://explore.siacoin.com/

[Pito001]

I am still working with Pito001 via PM to figure out where the coins went. At this point we're not sure what address they are in, but by using the block explorer and the client's transaction history, we should at least be able to figure that out. Once we know what address the coins have landed in, we can continue to narrow things down.

True. Very helpful dev.
Working on a solution. Will post updates as it goes. Thanks!

Update as promised: Seems the 5M SC are lost forever as the previous wallet (0.3.3.3) wasn't 'backup proof'. 
I can't bring myself to support this project atm. But no worries, I've had hardly any impact at all.  Good luck SC!

[MinermanNC]

it works! ... (just gotta watch that little "siad" thingy) just shut that down properly if needed and its all good  

Can you elaborate? I ran the 0.4.2 GUI and after shutting down noticed siad still running. I killed the process and when the GUI is restarted get the error message "siad exited with code: 0"

How exactly does one go about shutting down siad "properly" (linux?) and is there a way to recover from these corruption issues?

Edit: I managed to remove the consensus file and start over. That seems to fix it.

Question: Where can I find a mining how-to? I downloaded Sia-UI-v0.4.2-beta-linux64.tar.gz which does not seem to include a miner. I've seen GUI screenshots with a Miner tab, which my GUI also is missing. How do I go about accessing the mining options in the GUI?

TO AVOID CORRUPTING YOUR WALLET:

Try this if you must shut down "siad" after closing wallet. ( if you going to restart your PC etc. ) Otherwise leave siad running as a process.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060294.msg12410622#msg12410622

and this easier short cut to CMD prompt

You can shift+right click the SIA folder and open a command prompt with the location already set. Then type >siac stop from that path in CMD after the >

Hope this helps to avoid corrupting your wallet again.

[Zer0Sum]

it works! ... (just gotta watch that little "siad" thingy) just shut that down properly if needed and its all good  

Can you elaborate? I ran the 0.4.2 GUI and after shutting down noticed siad still running. I killed the process and when the GUI is restarted get the error message "siad exited with code: 0"

How exactly does one go about shutting down siad "properly" (linux?) and is there a way to recover from these corruption issues?

Edit: I managed to remove the consensus file and start over. That seems to fix it.

Question: Where can I find a mining how-to? I downloaded Sia-UI-v0.4.2-beta-linux64.tar.gz which does not seem to include a miner. I've seen GUI screenshots with a Miner tab, which my GUI also is missing. How do I go about accessing the mining options in the GUI?

TO AVOID CORRUPTING YOUR WALLET:

Try this if you must shut down "siad" after closing wallet. ( if you going to restart your PC etc. ) Otherwise leave siad running as a process.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060294.msg12410622#msg12410622

and this easier short cut to CMD prompt

You can shift+right click the SIA folder and open a command prompt with the location already set. Then type >siac stop from that path in CMD after the >

Hope this helps to avoid corrupting your wallet again.

Stuff like this...
Will limit this (very promising) project to super-geeks that unlimited time to f*ck around with crypto wallets.

That said, the GUI wallet is what counts and it's making progress:



OK, the blockchain is updated and I've transferred a little test coin from Polo...
But, of course, I'm LOCKED OUT... even after I've been given a 29 word passphrase (where NXT uses only 12 words).



Oh, the Dev wants me to run another 2 separate command line utilities...
And muck around with more passphrases with little known copy/paste techniques via consoles.

Let's add 17 more "locks", baby = very poor design.

Sorry, but you HAVE TO make GUI wallet standalone to attract normal people. Please make standalone GUI wallet a priority.

[akaman]

Is there an estimate of how many Sia nodes are currently running?

Yes, right now 32.
http://explore.siacoin.com/

Are those nodes that only offer space, or all nodes connected? I don't appear on that list. Is that because I'm not done syncing the blockchain yet?

I've been syncing for 10 hours now. I'm at block height 1976 (connected to 8 peers). Is it normally this slow?

Also, I cannot Announce my storage. I get the error message:
"Error 400 Bad request host address not reachable; ensure you have forwarded port 9982"

I have forwarded port 9982 on my router. Still doesn't work.

[Schleicher]

Also, I cannot Announce my storage. I get the error message:
"Error 400 Bad request host address not reachable; ensure you have forwarded port 9982"

I have forwarded port 9982 on my router. Still doesn't work.

I think you have to forward 9981 as well

[Malibusparky]

Stuff like this...
Will limit this (very promising) project to super-geeks that unlimited time to f*ck around with crypto wallets.

That said, the GUI wallet is what counts and it's making progress:



OK, the blockchain is updated and I've transferred a little test coin from Polo...
But, of course, I'm LOCKED OUT... even after I've been given a 29 word passphrase (where NXT uses only 12 words).



Oh, the Dev wants me to run another 2 separate command line utilities...
And muck around with more passphrases with little known copy/paste techniques via consoles.

Let's add 17 more "locks", baby = very poor design.

Sorry, but you HAVE TO make GUI wallet standalone to attract normal people. Please make standalone GUI wallet a priority.

Zer0Sum complaining. First of all I want to address his comments. Nobody said Sia is ready for primetime now. As you can see its

still being built and constant changes and development is happening. People forget this is not litecoin/bitcoin copy paste. Its kind

of easy to have dependable wallet when its the same code as already developed coin. All the bugs we find now shapes what Sia will be

we are not in adoption phase we are in build phase. Also whoever said Sia is for the normal dumb guy. Right now mostly tech people tinker

with it. The future majority of hosts will likely be technical people. Sia's focus is not imo people to use to keep their photo in cloud for iphone.

It is for youtube or netflix or may youtube's competitor. Business that needs cheap reliable millions of terabytes to store.

[Malibusparky]

I'm trying to recover wallet without the wallet.json in command line. So I after I type siac wallet load seed it asks for the password. So I type

the 29 word password then it says new seed: what do I type here?

Also can this be done with the UI yet? It doesn't seem to.

I still would like answer to this please.



Also Zer0Sum said one thing I want to talk about. I am not crypto expert. I know you devs are more storage expert than crypto expert too.

But like Zer0Sum said nxt has 12 word passphrase. I know counterwallet has 12 word phrase too. It was good because according to those

guys 12 words is apparent unbreakable cryptographic speaking. And I used to have my 12 word counterwallet phrase memorized. I can't

memorize 29 words. Is 29 words overkill? Again I'm not knowledgeable in cryptographics, you seem to care a lot of security to make 29 words.

For me it would be nice to be something I can memorize. Just asking maybe you can look into it more? Thanks

[Trial]

I repeat the question.
It mining began? Why there isn't enough information? So has to be?

[Malibusparky]

I repeat the question.
It mining began? Why there isn't enough information? So has to be?

You seem to be mining. But you aren't going to get any blocks with that.

Mining is still in development. Sia original was not suppose to be mining coin. Mining aspect will be worked on more slowly

than storage aspect but since it is mining for consensus of course it is important.

Its better for people like you to wait for mining pool which can be a while longer.

[MinermanNC]

Its obvious we have a lot of new comers to SIA who have not been with it since the first on going still under development BETA  wallet. So they are trying to jump in in the middle of a major wallet upgrade and are easily getting discouraged.

Of course all new comers and folks that are interested and are willing to test and contribute are very welcome in here and to learn SIA up to the point it is at now.

All the criticism however is unwarranted by those who have not gone back through and simply read up to the point we are at now with the wallet. ALL of us involved understand the work that is yet to be done, and the bugs that are currently in 4.2, which Taek has addressed and is working on as we speak. The wallet does in fact work. Does it require a little geek type knowledge ? sure it does, no one has stated it is in full readiness for the world at large.

For those coming in and wanting to get familiarized with SIA, PLEASE read through the thread at least skim over it.. you will learn a lot but more than likely will get somewhat confused. There has been a lot of trial and error for most of us interested in SIA along the way but we take our lumps and learn from each other and keep moving forward.

It is a project under development plain and simple. Please don't be so fast to pass judgment on a project of this scope that is unlike any other crypto project. If your mentality is that of meaningless clone coins and wallets and the same old pump and dump shit coins and trying to make a few dollars, well then maybe SIA isn't for you in its current state. Wait for the final well tested version, then start enjoying all that SIA will have to offer