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December 13, 2015, 10:59:54 PM
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Remember one major thing. The only reason that nations which have gun control don't completely make slaves out of their people is, American still have guns. If those gun-controlled nations made formal slaves of their people, their people would see the freedom in having guns real clearly. They would get guns and collapse their nations.

In other words, gun freedom in America is keeping the world free.

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Other countries are worried about gun violence in the US when they should be worried about horrific incidents that are happening to children in Sudan. The fact the Asia countries are the worst for human trafficking and violence against children. China is a fine one to talk while their people are enslaved in a communistic regime. While the women in Arab countries are enslaved in a culture that is so outdated that it is almost unbelievable. There are atrocities everywhere just not in the US. People who live in glass houses should not be throwing stones


Agree with both of you. Guns keep America free. In countries where guns are not allowed,  citizens are totally subordinate to the state.  Sudanese, Chinese and Saudis are all slaves of the state.

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December 13, 2015, 11:04:19 PM
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Remember one major thing. The only reason that nations which have gun control don't completely make slaves out of their people is, American still have guns. If those gun-controlled nations made formal slaves of their people, their people would see the freedom in having guns real clearly. They would get guns and collapse their nations.

In other words, gun freedom in America is keeping the world free.

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Other countries are worried about gun violence in the US when they should be worried about horrific incidents that are happening to children in Sudan. The fact the Asia countries are the worst for human trafficking and violence against children. China is a fine one to talk while their people are enslaved in a communistic regime. While the women in Arab countries are enslaved in a culture that is so outdated that it is almost unbelievable. There are atrocities everywhere just not in the US. People who live in glass houses should not be throwing stones


Does that include people who have Plexiglas windows in their homes?   Cheesy

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December 15, 2015, 12:45:55 AM
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Remember one major thing. The only reason that nations which have gun control don't completely make slaves out of their people is, American still have guns. If those gun-controlled nations made formal slaves of their people, their people would see the freedom in having guns real clearly. They would get guns and collapse their nations.

In other words, gun freedom in America is keeping the world free.

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Other countries are worried about gun violence in the US when they should be worried about horrific incidents that are happening to children in Sudan. The fact the Asia countries are the worst for human trafficking and violence against children. China is a fine one to talk while their people are enslaved in a communistic regime. While the women in Arab countries are enslaved in a culture that is so outdated that it is almost unbelievable. There are atrocities everywhere just not in the US. People who live in glass houses should not be throwing stones


Agree with both of you. Guns keep America free. In countries where guns are not allowed,  citizens are totally subordinate to the state.  Sudanese, Chinese and Saudis are all slaves of the state.
Like it or not, pro gun control or against gun control, it's the American people who have the ability, by carrying weapons, to stop Islamic terrorists as well as other types.  And they are going to do it.

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December 15, 2015, 01:35:23 AM
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You know.. If you want better/more gun control you can always send your piece out to get a nice trigger job.. A cleaner break makes for much better precision control..

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December 23, 2015, 10:54:35 PM
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KORWIN: America's Real Gun Problem - The Gun Myths





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Prior "common sense" proposals are perpetually abandoned. The so-called "news" media adopts each new absurd gun-control scheme dutifully, promotes it uncritically, then drops it like a hot potato when it is proven worthless and runs to the next latest greatest bit of hoplophobic (morbid gun fear) ridiculousness.

In effect the nation endures a serial mythology, with new myths invented constantly, so we lose sight of each established myth as new ones spring into the public eye.

This obscures the former paranoid fabrications, frustrating our efforts "to get to the heart of the problem," which then never get adequately described. You'll recognize them instantly, from the constant hammering of the not-too-distant past—try some of these on for sighs (sic)—


Read more at http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/21/korwin-americas-real-gun-problem-the-gun-myths/.


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December 23, 2015, 11:03:43 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYBYN64nS1s

That's what I call a gun control. Cheesy
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December 23, 2015, 11:21:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYBYN64nS1s

That's what I call a gun control. Cheesy

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December 23, 2015, 11:40:02 PM
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Guns topping Christmas lists thanks to terrorism concerns, fear over restrictions





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Guns are at the top of many Christmas lists, especially if November is any indication.

Last month, the FBI ran more than 2.2 million firearm background checks on potential buyers, a 24 percent increase from November 2014. On Black Friday, a record 185,345 background checks were processed by the FBI.

That increase coincided with the coordinated terrorist attacks at multiple sites in Paris by ISIS gunmen on Nov. 13 that killed 130 people and wounded 368.

Weeks later, on Dec. 2, an attack on a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, killed 14 and injured 17 others.

It marked the 355th mass shooting in 336 days this year and the deadliest since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Connecticut three years ago.


Read More at http://www.today.com/news/guns-topping-christmas-lists-thanks-terrorism-concerns-fear-over-restrictions-t63321.


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December 24, 2015, 12:28:56 AM
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If we learn to use our mind we dont need to use guns
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December 24, 2015, 01:14:00 AM
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If we learn to use our mind we dont need to use guns

There's only one person who can use mind bullets, and that's http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tenaciousd/wonderboy.html

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December 24, 2015, 02:10:19 AM
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If we learn to use our mind we dont need to use guns

If we learn to use our mind, we'll be buying lots of guns and ammo, and filing some of our semi-auto's down to where they are full auto's.

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December 24, 2015, 02:20:16 AM
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Top 5 Things Every Gun Owner Needs To Know








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBu2aH_fB0


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December 24, 2015, 03:25:44 AM
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Great vid!  Thanks for the link.

IMHO, even though it is quite important for a gun owner to know how to physically operate a gun, it is even more important to know what follows.  This guy did a great no-nonsense job on that topic.

Considering all of the idiocy that people are exposed to in the media I am actually quite surprised at the relatively low levels of irresponsible gun ownership among law abiding citizens.  In fact even the criminal class seems surprisingly 'responsible' in their use of guns.  That I ascribe to the sharp knives of the justice system when guns are involved in a crime, and this was exactly the goal of the current regime when it was formulated as policy.  As far as I'm concerned, gun ownership here in the U.S. is really working remarkably well thanks to common sense and scientifically sound policy developed over the last 3 or 4 decades.

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At this point, I am fairly confident to say that the anti-gun people with any sort of power (and I specifically exclude the propagandized ankle-biter zombie masses here) are upset about guns for the exact reason that those who formulated the 2nd amendment were envisioning.  That is, as a tool of last resort against tyranny.  A thinking person must ask themselves, 'what, in the future, could be so threatening that people would in any sort of numbers exercise the 'right to bear arms'?'  I can think of a few possibilities, and in all of these cases I would prefer to have the 2nd amendment option than to not.  That's just me, though, and I'm a relative oldster who missed some of the later curriculum taught in schools and don't watch much TV.


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December 24, 2015, 04:00:34 AM
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Great vid!  Thanks for the link.

IMHO, even though it is quite important for a gun owner to know how to physically operate a gun, it is even more important to know what follows.  This guy did a great no-nonsense job on that topic.

Considering all of the idiocy that people are exposed to in the media I am actually quite surprised at the relatively low levels of irresponsible gun ownership among law abiding citizens.  In fact even the criminal class seems surprisingly 'responsible' in their use of guns.  That I ascribe to the sharp knives of the justice system when guns are involved in a crime, and this was exactly the goal of the current regime when it was formulated as policy.  As far as I'm concerned, gun ownership here in the U.S. is really working remarkably well thanks to common sense and scientifically sound policy developed over the last 3 or 4 decades.

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At this point, I am fairly confident to say that the anti-gun people with any sort of power (and I specifically exclude the propagandized ankle-biter zombie masses here) are upset about guns for the exact reason that those who formulated the 2nd amendment were envisioning.  That is, as a tool of last resort against tyranny.  A thinking person must ask themselves, 'what, in the future, could be so threatening that people would in any sort of numbers exercise the 'right to bear arms'?'  I can think of a few possibilities, and in all of these cases I would prefer to have the 2nd amendment option than to not.  That's just me, though, and I'm a relative oldster who missed some of the later curriculum taught in schools and don't watch much TV.



Thanks for the video compliment. Freedom's Phoenix usually has at least a few great things for everybody - https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/.

Your note about the 2nd Amendment prompts me to write the following.

People at the time the Constitution was penned were great lawyers. Everybody was a lawyer in his own right. The Amendments were set in place to limit government.

Let's hear that again. Amendments were set in place to limit government.

Amendments were NOT set in place to give us rights. They weren't even set in place to uphold our rights directly. Let's hear it again... Amendments were set in place to limit government.

Where do we go to find out what our rights are? We look within ourselves. As long as we are not harming anyone, and as long as we are not damaging someone's property, it is our right.

What government document do we use to protect any and all rights, and our freedom, when government encroaches on our rights. The Preamble to the Constitution.

The Preamble shows us that people set up the Constitution and government for the benefit of themselves and their posterity (descendants). If what the government is doing is harming you directly, or harming you by damaging or stealing your property - like income taxes, not letting you use drugs responsibly, limiting how many peanuts you can grow, forcing you into the military through the draft, traffic ticket fines when no harm or damage was done, gun limitations, etc., etc. - it is not a benefit to you. It's a detriment or harm to you and your rights.

Be a man or woman. Stand up and sue the dickens out of the person who is using the government to harm you, because government can't harm you. It is only for your benefit. If a government person harms you by messing with your rights, that person is acting outside of government.

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December 26, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
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Gun and control together mean is strong and power.
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December 27, 2015, 04:19:48 AM
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Great vid!  Thanks for the link.

IMHO, even though it is quite important for a gun owner to know how to physically operate a gun, it is even more important to know what follows.  This guy did a great no-nonsense job on that topic.

Considering all of the idiocy that people are exposed to in the media I am actually quite surprised at the relatively low levels of irresponsible gun ownership among law abiding citizens.  In fact even the criminal class seems surprisingly 'responsible' in their use of guns.  That I ascribe to the sharp knives of the justice system when guns are involved in a crime, and this was exactly the goal of the current regime when it was formulated as policy.  As far as I'm concerned, gun ownership here in the U.S. is really working remarkably well thanks to common sense and scientifically sound policy developed over the last 3 or 4 decades.

---

At this point, I am fairly confident to say that the anti-gun people with any sort of power (and I specifically exclude the propagandized ankle-biter zombie masses here) are upset about guns for the exact reason that those who formulated the 2nd amendment were envisioning.  That is, as a tool of last resort against tyranny.  A thinking person must ask themselves, 'what, in the future, could be so threatening that people would in any sort of numbers exercise the 'right to bear arms'?'  I can think of a few possibilities, and in all of these cases I would prefer to have the 2nd amendment option than to not.  That's just me, though, and I'm a relative oldster who missed some of the later curriculum taught in schools and don't watch much TV.



Not only do I agree with the bolded above, but I imagine most of those in law enforcement would agree.  Yes we have a modern problem, that mostly did not exist in the past, with the five minutes of fame atrocity killers, but they are a needle in the haystack of gun owners.

Nothing, and in particular no system designed of rules, regulation and law, is perfect, and that includes firearms law and regulation.

You do indeed wonder, as the Left incessantly hammers the gun control issue, whether the real goal is indeed something else entirely.  Whether the goal may just be to eliminate the "tool of last resort against tyranny," even if those on the Left who do this may not even know what they do or why.
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December 27, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
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I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.

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December 27, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
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I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
Yes, that's totally brilliant.  You need a law to tell criminals to not be criminals so that criminals will not be criminals. 

At the very least you could have a law that criminals must wait 5 minutes after breaking into a house before they start robbing it.  And they must wait 10 minutes after seizing a woman before raping her.

This would give the cops time to arrive and arrest the criminals.
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December 27, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
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I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
Yes, that's totally brilliant.  You need a law to tell criminals to not be criminals so that criminals will not be criminals. 

At the very least you could have a law that criminals must wait 5 minutes after breaking into a house before they start robbing it.  And they must wait 10 minutes after seizing a woman before raping her.

This would give the cops time to arrive and arrest the criminals.

Criminals will always have guns, regardless of the law. The innocent lives taken are taken by crime.  We are heading towards a totalitarian state and taking away gun rights will get us into deep shit.


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December 27, 2015, 07:15:13 PM
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I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
Yes, that's totally brilliant.  You need a law to tell criminals to not be criminals so that criminals will not be criminals.  

At the very least you could have a law that criminals must wait 5 minutes after breaking into a house before they start robbing it.  And they must wait 10 minutes after seizing a woman before raping her.

This would give the cops time to arrive and arrest the criminals.

Criminals will always have guns, regardless of the law. The innocent lives taken are taken by crime.  We are heading towards a totalitarian state and taking away gun rights will get us into deep shit.


Wait, so you mean it won't work just to tell the criminals to not be bad? (sarcasm)

One woman obeyed a bad law, to not carry, and that got her family killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9FzMnwrPEk

Guns are like fire extinguishers.  Sure you hope there won't be a fire.  But you definitely want a couple fire extinguishers to put fires out.  Nobody depends on waiting until the fire engines arrive.
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