Cricket match prediction discussions

[Juggy777]

Its a shame that the WI/India game was abandoned due to the rain. The WI were looking good at 54/1 and might of posted a decent score for India to chase but it wasn't to be. India are hot favourites to win the series but I just want to see the WI put up a fight and give India more of a challenge unlike in the T20 series. 

West Indies were indeed batting very well and this may have surprised many gamblers, who decided to place a bet on India thinking that team India will win it easily. Had Rains not washed out the match it’s quiet possible that West Indies may have posted a huge total, and would offer tough fight to team India. In T20 series their performances were absolutely poor, but it’s good to see that in ODI they’re making amends now looking forward to the second ODI match.

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[Haunebu]

Today we have another retirement from one off greatest cricketer of our time and real gentleman of cricket Hashim Amla he is retiring from all formats now available for only domestic cricket #ThankYouHash     https://twitter.com/ESPNcricinfo/status/1159542291549155328

Damn. I did not expect this at all. Easily one of the best batsmen to grace the world of Cricket. He has one of the best batting averages overall and he could have broken many records if he continued playing in my opinion.

Am still surprised by this move, but I wish him all the best in his future endeavors. Will definitely miss watching him play.

[coingrowth]

This is why players like Amir etc are leaving test matches to focus on formats like ODI and T20 where they can provide better entertainment value and receive more money in a shorter span of time. We need more new stuff to make tests a lot more entertaining basically.

Players will continue to retire from tests, to concentrate more on the T20 leagues. Nowadays new T20 leagues are emerging in every nook and corner of the world, and the players are being paid handsomely for relatively short stints. After all, playing cricket is just like any other profession and the players need to earn as much as they can, when they are on top form.

Really it is a very good choice to retire from international cricket because they will higher amount if they start participating in T20 Leagues. T20 is limited over a game where sometime they will get a chance to prove themselves and once they are proving themselves, companies start buying them at the higher rate for T20 leagues.

[Pffrt]

Players get retired from test cricket earlier even though it is the most honourable among all the formats. However, it helps them to lengthen their career which is most important to any professional cricketer.

[Indymoney]

Players get retired from test cricket earlier even though it is the most honourable among all the formats. However, it helps them to lengthen their career which is most important to any professional cricketer.

Now every player want to gain more money and less work and we have too many 20/twenty leagues which are giving them good amount in very less time so they want to cash this with retiring from test cricket no one can do any thing because 5 days for one match is now very hard work so this is not going to stop in near future.

[ene1980]

Now every player want to gain more money and less work and we have too many 20/twenty leagues which are giving them good amount in very less time so they want to cash this with retiring from test cricket no one can do any thing because 5 days for one match is now very hard work so this is not going to stop in near future.

If your profession is to play cricket and make money then it is the best job you can do, it is the case with any sports, you need to have the skill set and if the body holds together then you can make a ton lot of money than any other profession, T20 leagues are a good thing as more people are able to play cricket now than the small amount of people who used to play international and domestic cricket and the pay scale is good too, who would reject those offers, to play test cricket you need to have good fitness and if playing in T20 earns them better benefit then who is to be blamed.

[Duzter]

Now every player want to gain more money and less work and we have too many 20/twenty leagues which are giving them good amount in very less time so they want to cash this with retiring from test cricket no one can do any thing because 5 days for one match is now very hard work so this is not going to stop in near future.

If you profession is to play cricket and make money then it is the best job you can do, it is the case with any sports, you need to have the skill set and if the body holds together then you can make a ton lot of money than any other profession, T20 leagues are a good thing as more people are able to play cricket now than the small amount of people who used to play international and domestic cricket and the pay scale is good too, who would reject those offers, to play test cricket you need to have good fitness and if playing in T20 earns them better benefit then who is to be blamed.

However a good cricketer gets determined through the test matches he play. T20 matches were like a game that is much associated with power, while test cricket needs stamina and the ability to defend and stay longer with a good average. T20's have given life to large number of players who could've been unknown to the world through large number of T20 leagues that's been taking place around the cricket loving nations.

[bryant.coleman]

Players get retired from test cricket earlier even though it is the most honourable among all the formats. However, it helps them to lengthen their career which is most important to any professional cricketer.

Now every player want to gain more money and less work and we have too many 20/twenty leagues which are giving them good amount in very less time so they want to cash this with retiring from test cricket no one can do any thing because 5 days for one match is now very hard work so this is not going to stop in near future.

It is not about less work. Even for a T20 match that lasts 3 hours, the players need to train very hard. And the mental pressure can be much more than the case with test matches, which are played in a comparatively relaxed atmosphere. The most important fact is that T20 is the future of cricket. Test cricket will never get popular outside countries such as England and Australia, where people go and watch test matches on weekends to relax with their family and kids. Even in countries such as India, T20 has outstripped test matches in popularity.

The second factor is money. T20 leagues make a lot of money and the player salaries have increased manifold ever since the franchise leagues came in to existence. They will never get these sort of salaries from the ODI/Test matches. There are players out there who play in 4-5 different T20 leagues every year. I am not even talking about cricket heavyweights such as Chris Gayle or David Warner. I am talking about the less popular players such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rashid Khan and Ryan ten Doeschate. Without the T20 leagues, these players will never get the exposure and financials that they deserve.

There is a third factor, which everyone tend to ignore. Test players are more prone to injuries. Bowlers need to put down 20 or 30 overs a day, which makes them vulnerable to exhaustion and injury. The same goes for batsmen as well, as in cases they need to bat for as much as 90 overs in a single day.

[ene1980]

However a good cricketer gets determined through the test matches he play.

Majority or all of the players does not have a secondary career and people are smart enough to make a good living when they are fit and are able to make the maximum amount of savings for their life when they are in good or decent form and majority does not care about some unknown people judging them, money rules everything and it is a small window that they have the opportunity to make good amount of money before they retire and if they go after that who is there to complaint and more over test matches are taxing for a fast bowler and it can reduce his prime playing days and therefore there is nothing wrong if they want to prolong their career just by playing shorter version of the game.

[Haunebu]

However a good cricketer gets determined through the test matches he play. T20 matches were like a game that is much associated with power, while test cricket needs stamina and the ability to defend and stay longer with a good average. T20's have given life to large number of players who could've been unknown to the world through large number of T20 leagues that's been taking place around the cricket loving nations.

I must disagree with you here. There are 3 different types of Cricketers basically:

- T-20
- ODI
- Test

Some are great in a particular format while they are bad in others. Some are alright in all formats, but are not experts in either version. This is how you are supposed to judge any cricket player overall.

Example : Chris Gayle(Amazing T-20 player), Cheteshwar Pujara(Amazing Test player), Virat Kohli(Amazing ODI player) etc

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Virat Kohli(Amazing ODI player) etc

Bro, I must say That's a terrible example. This guy has impeccable records in all 3 format.
 

• Ranks 1 in the Test Match with an average of 53+ ( 25 tons in 77 games)
• Ranks 1 in the ODI with an average of 59+ ( 42 tons in 238 games)
• He's lagging in T-20 ranking because he takes rest during any T-20 bilateral series ( he missed a couple of easy T-20 series in the last 2 years) he has 49+ average in T-20 with healthy SR.

                 

[FIFA worldcup]

Now every player want to gain more money and less work and we have too many 20/twenty leagues which are giving them good amount in very less time so they want to cash this with retiring from test cricket no one can do any thing because 5 days for one match is now very hard work so this is not going to stop in near future.

If you profession is to play cricket and make money then it is the best job you can do, it is the case with any sports, you need to have the skill set and if the body holds together then you can make a ton lot of money than any other profession, T20 leagues are a good thing as more people are able to play cricket now than the small amount of people who used to play international and domestic cricket and the pay scale is good too, who would reject those offers, to play test cricket you need to have good fitness and if playing in T20 earns them better benefit then who is to be blamed.

However a good cricketer gets determined through the test matches he play. T20 matches were like a game that is much associated with power, while test cricket needs stamina and the ability to defend and stay longer with a good average. T20's have given life to large number of players who could've been unknown to the world through large number of T20 leagues that's been taking place around the cricket loving nations.

This statement might be of any value 10 years ago where we used to say that real cricket is the test cricket. These days this is not the case and there are many T20 players emerging players which are good in T20 and ODI but could not play the slowest format of the cricket i.e Test cricket. Also test cricket is very limited these days and only few matches are played in test match format.

[Haunebu]

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Virat Kohli(Amazing ODI player) etc

Bro, I must say That's a terrible example. This guy has impeccable records in all 3 format.
 

• Ranks 1 in the Test Match with an average of 53+ ( 25 tons in 77 games)
• Ranks 1 in the ODI with an average of 59+ ( 42 tons in 238 games)
• He's lagging in T-20 ranking because he takes rest during any T-20 bilateral series ( he missed a couple of easy T-20 series in the last 2 years) he has 49+ average in T-20 with healthy SR.

You are kinda right. Virat Kohli is basically jack of all trades, but he is basically an exception. Was simply trying to point out the fact that almost all players are recognized in a certain format which is the right fit for them.

For example, Hardik Pandya is easily one of the best T-20 batsmen in recent times, but he is pretty bad in other formats. This is the beauty of Cricket(Diversity).

[Vishnu.Reang]

This statement might be of any value 10 years ago where we used to say that real cricket is the test cricket. These days this is not the case and there are many T20 players emerging players which are good in T20 and ODI but could not play the slowest format of the cricket i.e Test cricket. Also test cricket is very limited these days and only few matches are played in test match format.

I don't agree with the last part of your post. It is not right to say that only a few matches are played in the test format. If you take the case of all the major teams (India, Australia, South Africa, England.etc), the total number of days spent on playing test cricket in any given year is more than the total number of days spent on playing either T20 or ODI.

[FIFA worldcup]

This statement might be of any value 10 years ago where we used to say that real cricket is the test cricket. These days this is not the case and there are many T20 players emerging players which are good in T20 and ODI but could not play the slowest format of the cricket i.e Test cricket. Also test cricket is very limited these days and only few matches are played in test match format.

I don't agree with the last part of your post. It is not right to say that only a few matches are played in the test format. If you take the case of all the major teams (India, Australia, South Africa, England.etc), the total number of days spent on playing test cricket in any given year is more than the total number of days spent on playing either T20 or ODI.

I have not calculated the precise days which the teams spend in playing the test or the other formats, but i still have doubt on your statement. We have so many T20 and ODI, it cannot increase in terms of days played with test cricket. If you have any such data with exact figures, please share as it will be interesting one.

[Raja_MBZ]

The third (and final) ODI of the three ODI series between India and West Indies just ended, and Virat Kohli made the total of 256 runs look so easy with his superb batting. He scored 114 runs on just 99 balls. OTOH, Shreyas Iyer made a very nice and quick 65-run inning on just 41 balls (with the help of a bunch of fours and sixes). India is so strong in ODIs that sometimes it feels like they should've won the last world cup!

[Btc_1856]

This statement might be of any value 10 years ago where we used to say that real cricket is the test cricket. These days this is not the case and there are many T20 players emerging players which are good in T20 and ODI but could not play the slowest format of the cricket i.e Test cricket. Also test cricket is very limited these days and only few matches are played in test match format.

I don't agree with the last part of your post. It is not right to say that only a few matches are played in the test format. If you take the case of all the major teams (India, Australia, South Africa, England.etc), the total number of days spent on playing test cricket in any given year is more than the total number of days spent on playing either T20 or ODI.

Yes, there is huge difference between test matches and T20, ODI, because all these we need to have lot of patience but when it comes to test matches we need to have more patience, within hours the match will turn to the opposition side. Test matches are a completely different scenario because only fitness will people play all these 5 days.

[UmerIdrees]

India is so strong in ODIs that sometimes it feels like they should've won the last world cup!

They should have won the WC but they lost because they were thinking that they could do anything and were too confident. If they had not let England win deliberately in the pool match (with the intention to eliminate Pakistan), they would probably have won.

[Haunebu]

The third (and final) ODI of the three ODI series between India and West Indies just ended, and Virat Kohli made the total of 256 runs look so easy with his superb batting. He scored 114 runs on just 99 balls. OTOH, Shreyas Iyer made a very nice and quick 65-run inning on just 41 balls (with the help of a bunch of fours and sixes). India is so strong in ODIs that sometimes it feels like they should've won the last world cup!

True, but Kohli was not exactly in the best form of his life and Shreyas was not a part of the squad. Instead, the BCCI was focus on selecting 3-Dimensional players like Vijay Shankar. They made some bad calls here.

Also, I don't understand why they keep giving Pant so many chances currently while KL Rahul needs to be given more chances. They need better selectors clearly.

[UmerIdrees]

Also, I don't understand why they keep giving Pant so many chances currently while KL Rahul needs to be given more chances. They need better selectors clearly.

India want Pant to be the perfect replacement of Dhoni who could keep the stumps as well as have the strong hitting power like Dhoni. Maybe that's why he is been given so many chances to proof himself.