Cricket match prediction discussions

[YinShuiSiYuan]

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

Right now it's all about IPL and due to money rich ipl everyone including icc and remaining members of big 4 are under bcci. At-least for next 10 years bcci will be supreme leader of cricket world and its best in there interest that cricket don't spread to other countries.

[Iranus]

Colonial mindset is having big impact on cricket and it's many subsidiaries like ECB, CA, CSA, CNZ and now BCCI so as they are in power they are not doing any positive thing for this game and it's future because they don't want to lose their power which is surely the worst case happening in gaming history.

Right now, Franchise cricket is going to have some good impact and finances to many weak boards and with this as they have some better resources and system then surely it's going to be not good for this game because after having their own system they will not accept any role set by ICC or big powers currently most of the boards are in not good shape, so they are just trying to accumulate and having some positive way, but surely it's going to be the big failure for this ICC and their powerful members.

For cricket to prosper, and for the ICC to spread the popularity of cricket further, ICC and the boards need to step out of the colonial mindset. The ICC will need to have a strong mindset in order to fix this problem. They will have to be the ones to impose authority over the big four and the ICC has also become reliant on the money of certain cricket boards.

Franchise cricket is getting more and more popular. And T10 already has made an appearance. So I think that the smaller teams will also be able to generate a significant amount of revenue. So this should be a good opportunity for the smaller teams and also ICC to come out of the shell that they have been in for quite a long time.

[BobK71]

Bcci is the king and they can do whatever they want and no one can stop them from doing what they want. 2 months of cricket is stopped just for ipl and now India want to stretch it to 3 months. But no one can stop them, icc is not boss rather working under big4.

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

Cricket is as old as other popular games like football and rugby but the point is cricket even a century old game is limited to 8 test playing teams only? Who is responsible for this mess. If you dig deep then it's very much clear that icc and big 3 don't want more countries to join in.

[doomloop]

Bcci is the king and they can do whatever they want and no one can stop them from doing what they want. 2 months of cricket is stopped just for ipl and now India want to stretch it to 3 months. But no one can stop them, icc is not boss rather working under big4.

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

No one available to give these all replies here as we only can talk and give our suggestions ICC is having completely a political party with having some good aides those are supporting all negative rules and not allowing weak countries to be in good shape just because of their behavior now cricket is having not solid future it is just going through in typical zones and now franchise cricket is also going to be hijacked because IPL owners are using their resources, and they are going to control this all in few countries which is not good signal for many countries.

They need to have rules like UEFA no owner can buy other club, and they have to bring strong system instead of having strong few candidates those will control and have good profit in their pockets instead of bringing youths into better shape with strong infrastructure and other sources.

[ilovealtcoins]

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

Cricket is as old as other popular games like football and rugby but the point is cricket even a century old game is limited to 8 test playing teams only? Who is responsible for this mess. If you dig deep then it's very much clear that icc and big 3 don't want more countries to join in.

The problem is ICC is not the best sports body ever. ICC does not think about how to improve cricket. They just think about the money. And the teams which are basically in the authority of the ICC, are basically running everything. ICC is just a puppet. They are just dancing to the tunes of the big four. And they just don’t want to lose their authority. That’s why as you said they don’t want to join in. And ICC does not do anything about that because they are providing ICC code amount of money. And as long as ICC get the money they are fine.

[fullhdpixel]

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

Cricket is as old as other popular games like football and rugby but the point is cricket even a century old game is limited to 8 test playing teams only? Who is responsible for this mess. If you dig deep then it's very much clear that icc and big 3 don't want more countries to join in.

Test cricket is never been easy format and two decades back this was completely bore because most of the matches were ended in a draw so no one was interested in this format and until now we have total 12 teams from these just 8 are in better shape and others are down or going out in near future even now things are completely change, and we have some very good change in this format as well thanks for T20 cricket.
 
But, this need some good skills and better resources which is not working right now for many countries even countries like West Indies, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka badly struggling, so we can't do any positive development in this format and no more countries can adopt this as well.

[Sithara007]

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.

Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

Completely agreed. Cricket is rapidly shifting from a country-based structure to a franchise-based structure. This happened with football many decades ago. Anyway, I am not going to mourn about the death of bilateral cricket. Apart from a few exceptions, it has become too boring. The pig-4 may still continue with the bilateral games. But if franchise cricket becomes even more popular, then smaller boards such as WICB, CSA and BCB will find difficulty in forcing the players to give preference to the national team instead of the franchises.

[rugrats]

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.
Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

Completely agreed. Cricket is rapidly shifting from a country-based structure to a franchise-based structure. This happened with football many decades ago. Anyway, I am not going to mourn about the death of bilateral cricket. Apart from a few exceptions, it has become too boring. The pig-4 may still continue with the bilateral games. But if franchise cricket becomes even more popular, then smaller boards such as WICB, CSA and BCB will find difficulty in forcing the players to give preference to the national team instead of the franchises.

Personally, I actually think that cricket is going through a hard time right now. To be honest it does not feel like ICC is there for the upgradation of cricket. It is quite inevitable that ICC is obviously going to lose its authority over the team, I mean whatever they had left to authorize over the teams. Besides, there is nothing very interesting going on in international cricket. We have a few big tournaments coming up. But I am quite sure after those tournaments it is going to be the same story again.

[JSRAW]

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.

Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

Completely agreed. Cricket is rapidly shifting from a country-based structure to a franchise-based structure. This happened with football many decades ago. Anyway, I am not going to mourn about the death of bilateral cricket. Apart from a few exceptions, it has become too boring. The pig-4 may still continue with the bilateral games. But if franchise cricket becomes even more popular, then smaller boards such as WICB, CSA and BCB will find difficulty in forcing the players to give preference to the national team instead of the franchises.

I don't care about white ball bilateral cricket either (i'm satisfied with T-20, ODI wc after 2 and 4 years) but yeah if new setup affecting test format then there may be some outcry from the old guards.

Although we have to wait more as jury still out on this new realities, it's going to be very painful for the cricket boards but players would be biggest beneficiary.

[Sithara007]

I don't care about white ball bilateral cricket either (i'm satisfied with T-20, ODI wc after 2 and 4 years) but yeah if new setup affecting test format then there may be some outcry from the old guards.

Although we have to wait more as jury still out on this new realities, it's going to be very painful for the cricket boards but players would be biggest beneficiary.

It will impact test cricket for sure. 90% of the test matches that are being played now are a waste of time, especially those being played by teams outside the pig-4. Most of these matches are one-sided and doesn't contribute to anything in terms of class. I am not talking about Ashes, Gavaskar-Border or Trans-Tasman, but even these series are now becoming less attractive due to the fact that we don't have classy test players nowadays. Most of the players concentrate on T20 format, because that is where the money lies.

[Juggy777]

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.

Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

Completely agreed. Cricket is rapidly shifting from a country-based structure to a franchise-based structure. This happened with football many decades ago. Anyway, I am not going to mourn about the death of bilateral cricket. Apart from a few exceptions, it has become too boring. The pig-4 may still continue with the bilateral games. But if franchise cricket becomes even more popular, then smaller boards such as WICB, CSA and BCB will find difficulty in forcing the players to give preference to the national team instead of the franchises.

I don't care about white ball bilateral cricket either (i'm satisfied with T-20, ODI wc after 2 and 4 years) but yeah if new setup affecting test format then there may be some outcry from the old guards.

Although we have to wait more as jury still out on this new realities, it's going to be very painful for the cricket boards but players would be biggest beneficiary.

I personally feel that this is a right step, because not all boards can afford to pay their player’s or give them the platform too grow and if these franchise’s pay these player’s then I see nothing wrong with it.

Furthermore I expect many ex and current player’s to revolt against this plan, but in the long run I feel that it’ll do wonders for the cricket world. However there’s just one point bothering me, what if this move increases match fixing which we often feel happens in IPL, what do you think about this?.

[Sithara007]

I personally feel that this is a right step, because not all boards can afford to pay their player’s or give them the platform too grow and if these franchise’s pay these player’s then I see nothing wrong with it.

Furthermore I expect many ex and current player’s to revolt against this plan, but in the long run I feel that it’ll do wonders for the cricket world. However there’s just one point bothering me, what if this move increases match fixing which we often feel happens in IPL, what do you think about this?.

The players are going to benefit financially. But it will come at a cost. Star players may resign from international cricket early, to focus solely on franchise cricket. The best example is West Indies, which has to play most of it's matches without Narine, Pollard and Russell. And obviously, match fixing is a big curse as far as cricket is considered. And unlike FIFA, which has managed to stamp out corruption to a great degree, the ICC has so far failed to do so. Even if some action is taken, it is always against the fringe players and the weaker boards.

[Haunebu]

South Africa have been rebounding really well across all formats these days which surprised me initially since they were struggling for sometime ever since legends like Smith, ABD etc retired completely.

I feel that they could win the upcoming World Cups(T-20 and ODI) if they continue playing in this manner. Great turnaround overall.

[JSRAW]

However there’s just one point bothering me, what if this move increases match fixing which we often feel happens in IPL, what do you think about this?.

IMO Fixing in cricket is not going anywhere. The best all cricket governing bodies can do is keep an eye on scale as this impact the image of cricket. They can strengthen the existing fixing laws, brief and educate cricketers especially in domestic circuit, extra funding in such departments might help in the longer run.

The players are going to benefit financially. But it will come at a cost. Star players may resign from international cricket early, to focus solely on franchise cricket.

Boards will introduce lucrative contracts. Last i heard Aus and NZ are already exploring this space. Smaller boards will face problems for sure.

[Sithara007]

The players are going to benefit financially. But it will come at a cost. Star players may resign from international cricket early, to focus solely on franchise cricket.

Boards will introduce lucrative contracts. Last i heard Aus and NZ are already exploring this space. Smaller boards will face problems for sure.

How much lucrative these national contracts can be? Now it is no longer a surprise when the IPL franchises pay more than $2 million per year for a player. Can the national boards come anywhere near these amounts? I am sure that even the richest boards outside India, such as ECB and CA will find it extremely difficult to match these numbers. And forget about the smaller boards. They are nowhere in picture. Some of them such as CSA have resorted to blackmail, by withholding NOC from the players. Not going to work.

[dezoel]

South Africa have been rebounding really well across all formats these days which surprised me initially since they were struggling for sometime ever since legends like Smith, ABD etc retired completely.

I feel that they could win the upcoming World Cups(T-20 and ODI) if they continue playing in this manner. Great turnaround overall.

There is no doubt South Africa has good quality players those can bounce back in any condition but sadly right now inner politics are going to be big problem for them, and they are suffering badly with this all in last few years sadly they have some serious corruption issues but now black authorities are not going to check into this, and they have just one concern that quota system and bringing black players even they have no quality which is surely a problem now.

In last thirty years they fail to bring black players on good quality even they have good domestic system is big question mark for the management with this all too many white players are also suffering even few are already out of country for better opportunities.

If they can solve this issue then surely they could be one of the best team again in very less time but sadly nothing positive happening even now too many commissions and other issues are creating more mess up.

[JSRAW]

The players are going to benefit financially. But it will come at a cost. Star players may resign from international cricket early, to focus solely on franchise cricket.

Boards will introduce lucrative contracts. Last i heard Aus and NZ are already exploring this space. Smaller boards will face problems for sure.

How much lucrative these national contracts can be? Now it is no longer a surprise when the IPL franchises pay more than $2 million per year for a player. Can the national boards come anywhere near these amounts? I am sure that even the richest boards outside India, such as ECB and CA will find it extremely difficult to match these numbers. And forget about the smaller boards. They are nowhere in picture. Some of them such as CSA have resorted to blackmail, by withholding NOC from the players. Not going to work.

Any upgraded contract from any cricket board would not address IPL situation but new random franchise cricket around the world.

For ex CA trying to work on Warner etc contract as they want him to play in BBL. BBL's last leg is clashing with UAE league and latter is offering big amount of money for just 15 days.

Also leagues like UAE came up with some ridiculous idea. Teams are allowed to have 9 foreign players + 2 local players, which means high demand for foreign players in specific window.

[minairia3]

South Africa have been rebounding really well across all formats these days which surprised me initially since they were struggling for sometime ever since legends like Smith, ABD etc retired completely.
I feel that they could win the upcoming World Cups(T-20 and ODI) if they continue playing in this manner. Great turnaround overall.

I also agree that this is a commendable performance from South Africa. Especially with a lot of bigger teams like India not being in the strongest position currently, especially with Virat Kohli not being able to perform well. Who is one of the leading players not just in India but around the world. South Africa should believe in themselves. They just beat England quite convincingly and comfortably.

For a long time, South Africa had to face a lot of problems. In particular, the system in which black people were forbidden from mixing with white people and vice versa had lowered the level of South African cricket substantially. I actually forgot what it was called.

But right now it’s encouraging to see that they were able to overcome those problems. I believe they will be able to play better even though they don’t have talented players like AB de Villiers on the team anymore.

[Sithara007]

Any upgraded contract from any cricket board would not address IPL situation but new random franchise cricket around the world.

For ex CA trying to work on Warner etc contract as they want him to play in BBL. BBL's last leg is clashing with UAE league and latter is offering big amount of money for just 15 days.

Also leagues like UAE came up with some ridiculous idea. Teams are allowed to have 9 foreign players + 2 local players, which means high demand for foreign players in specific window.

Salaries are shockingly low in the BBL and that is the reason why a large number of the Australian players don't want any association with that league. And also, I am not surprised with the overseas quota in the UAE league. Even the 2 "local" players in the XI are likely to be foreign citizens as they don't have any native players. All that said, the Emirates Cricket Board is one of the richest in the world and they can afford to pay huge salaries to star players. Other leagues will have a hard time competing with them for players.