Cricket match prediction discussions

[Iranus]

Cricket was game of gentlemen by gentlemen and for gentlemen now in hands of corrupt mafia by P-4 for their own sack and have no future because of their poor management because money is working for them in good way, and they have no one who give them challenge or bring them in accountability court is surely big setback for this game and its fans because we were feeling good and healthy environment, but now it's all going to dead they are having power to control and with this all they are giving good lolly pops to fans.
With this bad management they can face dilemma because this is never been ideal for anyone to stay like this, hopefully we will have some good or bad changes which will give us positive end of this all.

The top cricket organization is ICC who have the responsibility to conduct all kinds of cricket with discipline. They are not just running behind the money, Showing their sympathy towards big countries and the stiffness towards the small country has become known as a major evidence of corruption. Such responsibilities of ICC will be destroyed in the future in the face of cricket. Therefore, their conditions must be changed in large interests.

The problem is ICC is looking for money and they are happy to do anything to bring in a significant amount of benefit. And to ICC it does not matter which team does well or which team does bad. If they cared about cricket, they would have actually helped the smaller teams. But instead, they are just helping their more powerful teams to get money. It is actually understandable because the bigger teams generate the most amount of revenue. Nevertheless, smaller teams cannot generate better revenue if they can't play better cricket. In fact, they won't even be able to play better cricket if they aren't helped by the ICC. ICC does not have any headaches as a result of that. And it is really sad to see the way the future of cricket is shaping up.

[SirLancelot]

The problem is ICC is looking for money and they are happy to do anything to bring in a significant amount of benefit. And to ICC it does not matter which team does well or which team does bad. If they cared about cricket, they would have actually helped the smaller teams. But instead, they are just helping their more powerful teams to get money. It is actually understandable because the bigger teams generate the most amount of revenue. Nevertheless, smaller teams cannot generate better revenue if they can't play better cricket. In fact, they won't even be able to play better cricket if they aren't helped by the ICC. ICC does not have any headaches as a result of that. And it is really sad to see the way the future of cricket is shaping up.

The future of this game cricket is just depended on few boards and these are all already in ICC good list, so they are happy with this all just because of this, no caring about any other thing or development which can help for positive development. Currently, ICC mean India, Australia, England and New Zealand others are just staying here for formalities. West Indies already crushed with Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are on decline with this all now we can say ICC with the help of their P-4 successfully reducing cricket and its bright future just for their own ego and ill mindset.

If someone wants to bring changes in this system then surely he is going to be exile from this ICC and also can face some other disciplinary actions as well because they don't like this all.

[Sithara007]

The top cricket organization is ICC who have the responsibility to conduct all kinds of cricket with discipline. They are not just running behind the money, Showing their sympathy towards big countries and the stiffness towards the small country has become known as a major evidence of corruption. Such responsibilities of ICC will be destroyed in the future in the face of cricket. Therefore, their conditions must be changed in large interests.

I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. As long as India contributes to 60% of the overall revenues, BCCI will have a dominant role in the ICC. Now the other opportunists have also ganged up with BCCI (ECB, CA and NZC), and this makes it very hard for the smaller boards to get their voices heard. The only way forward is to give more countries voting rights, so that the influence of BCCI can be diluted. But the opposite is happening now. Nowadays, most of the associate boards are dominated by expats from India and they always side with the BCCI.

[GigaBit]

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Sachin Tendulkar went through the same rough patch but he worked on it and  became a legend. Kohli lacks such attitude and this might be the reason why he is not able to perform after getting so many opportunities.

This is fair analysis, there is nothing wrong on losing your form as it bound to happens at some point of time. No one expect any players to be invincible in their long career as it's part of process. It would be good for him and Indian team if he keeps his ego aside and talk to Sachin directly, after all this guy know thing or 2 about hardship and struggle.

Despite all bad signs. I still didn't lose hope and like to believe that he'll bounce back.

No one doubts that Kohli is a good player but not the form that a cricketer will be in throughout the year. There is a word called ups and downs. Kohli is probably passing miserable days with cricket. A rumor that was egotistical which one would never expect from a shrewd cricketer. We are hoping that he will forget everything and come to us with good signs.

[eaLiTy]

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The problem is ICC is looking for money and they are happy to do anything to bring in a significant amount of benefit. And to ICC it does not matter which team does well or which team does bad. If they cared about cricket, they would have actually helped the smaller teams. But instead, they are just helping their more powerful teams to get money. It is actually understandable because the bigger teams generate the most amount of revenue. Nevertheless, smaller teams cannot generate better revenue if they can't play better cricket. In fact, they won't even be able to play better cricket if they aren't helped by the ICC. ICC does not have any headaches as a result of that. And it is really sad to see the way the future of cricket is shaping up.

When India won the 1983 World Cup, BCCI did not get tickets to watch the final match and with the help of the then government and the sponsorship of Ambani, India along with Pakistan was able to bring the World Cup out of England in 1987, if not England and Australia dominated Cricket and they never bothered about other countries. BCCI especially Salve who was the BCCI president then was determined to take the power of the ICC away from England and they have done that because they were humiliated by the ICC in rejecting two tickets requested by the BCCI to watch the 1983 Finals.
So anyone crying about the powers in Cricket, check out the history and then cry about it  .

When Sri Lanka won the 1996 World Cup majority of the players were sponsored by Arjuna Ranatunga who i consider as one the greatest captains in World Cricket and ICC did not shower them money, from minnows to World Champions were their sole hard work and many of the players during that period was staying with Arjuna Ranatunga because they did not have a place to stay nor the money. So to cry about other nations are not developing Cricket because ICC is not helping is just bullshit. The board has to take the initiatives to find talents or you need a captain that could take that role to develop the quality of players and you cannot expect anyone to bring everything in a golden platter.
 

[savetheFORUM]

The top cricket organization is ICC who have the responsibility to conduct all kinds of cricket with discipline. They are not just running behind the money, Showing their sympathy towards big countries and the stiffness towards the small country has become known as a major evidence of corruption. Such responsibilities of ICC will be destroyed in the future in the face of cricket. Therefore, their conditions must be changed in large interests.

I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. As long as India contributes to 60% of the overall revenues, BCCI will have a dominant role in the ICC. Now the other opportunists have also ganged up with BCCI (ECB, CA and NZC), and this makes it very hard for the smaller boards to get their voices heard. The only way forward is to give more countries voting rights, so that the influence of BCCI can be diluted. But the opposite is happening now. Nowadays, most of the associate boards are dominated by expats from India and they always side with the BCCI.

Things like this can't go for long time surely something will happen even take some time, but we can smell changes in future because these Pig-4 are not invincible and if BCCI is having 60% revenue it does not mean they can hijack all things. They must think about better future or just ready for no confidence which can do big damage to this game and this authority as well now with some good success of T-10 and T-20 we are having few new countries those can play a vital role in this game, and it's all authority because now test is just going to play in 7 or 8 countries and mostly others will like to join these short formats for better profit and entertainment and this could be vital for big changes in the future.

[JSRAW]

The top cricket organization is ICC who have the responsibility to conduct all kinds of cricket with discipline. They are not just running behind the money, Showing their sympathy towards big countries and the stiffness towards the small country has become known as a major evidence of corruption. Such responsibilities of ICC will be destroyed in the future in the face of cricket. Therefore, their conditions must be changed in large interests.

I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. As long as India contributes to 60% of the overall revenues, BCCI will have a dominant role in the ICC. Now the other opportunists have also ganged up with BCCI (ECB, CA and NZC), and this makes it very hard for the smaller boards to get their voices heard. The only way forward is to give more countries voting rights, so that the influence of BCCI can be diluted. But the opposite is happening now. Nowadays, most of the associate boards are dominated by expats from India and they always side with the BCCI.

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.

Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

[Iranus]

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The problem is ICC is looking for money and they are happy to do anything to bring in a significant amount of benefit. And to ICC it does not matter which team does well or which team does bad. If they cared about cricket, they would have actually helped the smaller teams. But instead, they are just helping their more powerful teams to get money. It is actually understandable because the bigger teams generate the most amount of revenue. Nevertheless, smaller teams cannot generate better revenue if they can't play better cricket. In fact, they won't even be able to play better cricket if they aren't helped by the ICC. ICC does not have any headaches as a result of that. And it is really sad to see the way the future of cricket is shaping up.

When India won the 1983 World Cup, BCCI did not get tickets to watch the final match and with the help of the then government and the sponsorship of Ambani, India along with Pakistan was able to bring the World Cup out of England in 1987, if not England and Australia dominated Cricket and they never bothered about other countries. BCCI especially Salve who was the BCCI president then was determined to take the power of the ICC away from England and they have done that because they were humiliated by the ICC in rejecting two tickets requested by the BCCI to watch the 1983 Finals.
So anyone crying about the powers in Cricket, check out the history and then cry about it  .
When Sri Lanka won the 1996 World Cup majority of the players were sponsored by Arjuna Ranatunga who i consider as one the greatest captains in World Cricket and ICC did not shower them money, from minnows to World Champions were their sole hard work and many of the players during that period was staying with Arjuna Ranatunga because they did not have a place to stay nor the money. So to cry about other nations are not developing Cricket because ICC is not helping is just bullshit. The board has to take the initiatives to find talents or you need a captain that could take that role to develop the quality of players and you cannot expect anyone to bring everything in a golden platter.

Actually, I don’t understand. So you are happy that this is happening?

I know what has happened to India and Sri Lanka was not the most desirable thing but that does not justify them having control over ICC right now. It feels like you are quite happy to see India being in the driver's seat because you are an Indian. But that would not be fair to the other teams. India has enormous power over ICC and so do the other 3 in big4. But that is the only reason why cricket is not expanding worldwide.

Only if the teams, the cricket board which is in power, as well as the ICC came together and thought about the game instead of making money and the big teams thinking of themselves as valuable items could this game flourish.

Honestly, I don’t even blame the big four at the moment. Because everyone wants to be in power when they get the taste of it. However, ICC handled everything so poorly that it feels like they are not in charge at the moment.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Actually, I don’t understand. So you are happy that this is happening?

I know what has happened to India and Sri Lanka was not the most desirable thing but that does not justify them having control over ICC right now. It feels like you are quite happy to see India being in the driver's seat because you are an Indian. But that would not be fair to the other teams. India has enormous power over ICC and so do the other 3 in big4. But that is the only reason why cricket is not expanding worldwide.

Only if the teams, the cricket board which is in power, as well as the ICC came together and thought about the game instead of making money and the big teams thinking of themselves as valuable items could this game flourish.

Honestly, I don’t even blame the big four at the moment. Because everyone wants to be in power when they get the taste of it. However, ICC handled everything so poorly that it feels like they are not in charge at the moment.

Bcci is the king and they can do whatever they want and no one can stop them from doing what they want. 2 months of cricket is stopped just for ipl and now India want to stretch it to 3 months. But no one can stop them, icc is not boss rather working under big4.

[SirLancelot]

Actually, I don’t understand. So you are happy that this is happening?

I know what has happened to India and Sri Lanka was not the most desirable thing but that does not justify them having control over ICC right now. It feels like you are quite happy to see India being in the driver's seat because you are an Indian. But that would not be fair to the other teams. India has enormous power over ICC and so do the other 3 in big4. But that is the only reason why cricket is not expanding worldwide.

Only if the teams, the cricket board which is in power, as well as the ICC came together and thought about the game instead of making money and the big teams thinking of themselves as valuable items could this game flourish.

Honestly, I don’t even blame the big four at the moment. Because everyone wants to be in power when they get the taste of it. However, ICC handled everything so poorly that it feels like they are not in charge at the moment.

Colonial mindset is having big impact on cricket and it's many subsidiaries like ECB, CA, CSA, CNZ and now BCCI so as they are in power they are not doing any positive thing for this game and it's future because they don't want to lose their power which is surely the worst case happening in gaming history.

Right now, Franchise cricket is going to have some good impact and finances to many weak boards and with this as they have some better resources and system then surely it's going to be not good for this game because after having their own system they will not accept any role set by ICC or big powers currently most of the boards are in not good shape, so they are just trying to accumulate and having some positive way, but surely it's going to be the big failure for this ICC and their powerful members.

[KennyR]

Bcci is the king and they can do whatever they want and no one can stop them from doing what they want. 2 months of cricket is stopped just for ipl and now India want to stretch it to 3 months. But no one can stop them, icc is not boss rather working under big4.

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

Right now it's all about IPL and due to money rich ipl everyone including icc and remaining members of big 4 are under bcci. At-least for next 10 years bcci will be supreme leader of cricket world and its best in there interest that cricket don't spread to other countries.

[Iranus]

Colonial mindset is having big impact on cricket and it's many subsidiaries like ECB, CA, CSA, CNZ and now BCCI so as they are in power they are not doing any positive thing for this game and it's future because they don't want to lose their power which is surely the worst case happening in gaming history.

Right now, Franchise cricket is going to have some good impact and finances to many weak boards and with this as they have some better resources and system then surely it's going to be not good for this game because after having their own system they will not accept any role set by ICC or big powers currently most of the boards are in not good shape, so they are just trying to accumulate and having some positive way, but surely it's going to be the big failure for this ICC and their powerful members.

For cricket to prosper, and for the ICC to spread the popularity of cricket further, ICC and the boards need to step out of the colonial mindset. The ICC will need to have a strong mindset in order to fix this problem. They will have to be the ones to impose authority over the big four and the ICC has also become reliant on the money of certain cricket boards.

Franchise cricket is getting more and more popular. And T10 already has made an appearance. So I think that the smaller teams will also be able to generate a significant amount of revenue. So this should be a good opportunity for the smaller teams and also ICC to come out of the shell that they have been in for quite a long time.

[BobK71]

Bcci is the king and they can do whatever they want and no one can stop them from doing what they want. 2 months of cricket is stopped just for ipl and now India want to stretch it to 3 months. But no one can stop them, icc is not boss rather working under big4.

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

Cricket is as old as other popular games like football and rugby but the point is cricket even a century old game is limited to 8 test playing teams only? Who is responsible for this mess. If you dig deep then it's very much clear that icc and big 3 don't want more countries to join in.

[doomloop]

Bcci is the king and they can do whatever they want and no one can stop them from doing what they want. 2 months of cricket is stopped just for ipl and now India want to stretch it to 3 months. But no one can stop them, icc is not boss rather working under big4.

ICC is kept as a dancing doll. Whenever the big 4 comes up with a plan, ICC starts to dance according to the order provided. This won't change in a short, because these people to have control over the entire sport keeps cricket in a way that it is played on specific locations and hasn't taken forward.

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

No one available to give these all replies here as we only can talk and give our suggestions ICC is having completely a political party with having some good aides those are supporting all negative rules and not allowing weak countries to be in good shape just because of their behavior now cricket is having not solid future it is just going through in typical zones and now franchise cricket is also going to be hijacked because IPL owners are using their resources, and they are going to control this all in few countries which is not good signal for many countries.

They need to have rules like UEFA no owner can buy other club, and they have to bring strong system instead of having strong few candidates those will control and have good profit in their pockets instead of bringing youths into better shape with strong infrastructure and other sources.

[ilovealtcoins]

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

Cricket is as old as other popular games like football and rugby but the point is cricket even a century old game is limited to 8 test playing teams only? Who is responsible for this mess. If you dig deep then it's very much clear that icc and big 3 don't want more countries to join in.

The problem is ICC is not the best sports body ever. ICC does not think about how to improve cricket. They just think about the money. And the teams which are basically in the authority of the ICC, are basically running everything. ICC is just a puppet. They are just dancing to the tunes of the big four. And they just don’t want to lose their authority. That’s why as you said they don’t want to join in. And ICC does not do anything about that because they are providing ICC code amount of money. And as long as ICC get the money they are fine.

[fullhdpixel]

Here we need to know who are the managing committee in ICC? ? Where they come from? These answer will clarify where is the problem? Politics is everywhere in today's world, when these Politics are applied to any organization, it can no longer function as it should. Cricket would have reached a better place today if there was no favoritism by the senior officials of the ICC in cricket.

Cricket is as old as other popular games like football and rugby but the point is cricket even a century old game is limited to 8 test playing teams only? Who is responsible for this mess. If you dig deep then it's very much clear that icc and big 3 don't want more countries to join in.

Test cricket is never been easy format and two decades back this was completely bore because most of the matches were ended in a draw so no one was interested in this format and until now we have total 12 teams from these just 8 are in better shape and others are down or going out in near future even now things are completely change, and we have some very good change in this format as well thanks for T20 cricket.
 
But, this need some good skills and better resources which is not working right now for many countries even countries like West Indies, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka badly struggling, so we can't do any positive development in this format and no more countries can adopt this as well.

[Sithara007]

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.

Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

Completely agreed. Cricket is rapidly shifting from a country-based structure to a franchise-based structure. This happened with football many decades ago. Anyway, I am not going to mourn about the death of bilateral cricket. Apart from a few exceptions, it has become too boring. The pig-4 may still continue with the bilateral games. But if franchise cricket becomes even more popular, then smaller boards such as WICB, CSA and BCB will find difficulty in forcing the players to give preference to the national team instead of the franchises.

[rugrats]

I've said this before. ICC is going to be caught with their pants down when powerful franchises move their pieces on chess board -IPL franchise-. It's already started happening with all franchise diversifying their investments in different leagues.
Time will come when franchises are going to hire players for full season and they will represent these franchise in UAE, SA, CPL, IPL (possibly The 100 and BBL in future) and so on. This will weaken bilateral cricket mainly white ball. In that case voting can be manipulated if someone play their cards right. IMO Along with voting rights, multi nation ICC tournaments should become reality.

Completely agreed. Cricket is rapidly shifting from a country-based structure to a franchise-based structure. This happened with football many decades ago. Anyway, I am not going to mourn about the death of bilateral cricket. Apart from a few exceptions, it has become too boring. The pig-4 may still continue with the bilateral games. But if franchise cricket becomes even more popular, then smaller boards such as WICB, CSA and BCB will find difficulty in forcing the players to give preference to the national team instead of the franchises.

Personally, I actually think that cricket is going through a hard time right now. To be honest it does not feel like ICC is there for the upgradation of cricket. It is quite inevitable that ICC is obviously going to lose its authority over the team, I mean whatever they had left to authorize over the teams. Besides, there is nothing very interesting going on in international cricket. We have a few big tournaments coming up. But I am quite sure after those tournaments it is going to be the same story again.