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April 29, 2013, 03:40:13 PM
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Let me get this straight you aren't the ceo? Why in the world hasn't he fired you? I presumed the only person who could get away with so viciously attacking people in the forums while representing your company's brand was the ceo. I apologize and I truly feel sorry for him.

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April 29, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
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Let me get this straight you aren't the ceo? Why in the world hasn't he fired you? I presumed the only person who could get away with so viciously attacking people in the forums while representing your company's brand was the ceo. I apologize and I truly feel sorry for him.

Oh, I'm so sorry if I hurt your feewings by calling you stupid (the solution is to not post stupid shit).  Usually, liars and bullshit artists feel persecuted when they are exposed for what they are.  

It's funny how me pointing out the falsehoods in your posts make you feel "viciously attacked."  Huh... yep, funny how that worked out.


If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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April 29, 2013, 03:56:55 PM
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Usually, liars and bullshit artists feel persecuted when they are exposed for what they are.

Ever considered a job as a projectionist?
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April 29, 2013, 03:59:10 PM
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Oh, I'm so sorry if I hurt your feewings by calling you stupid (the solution is to not post stupid shit).  Usually, liars and bullshit artists feel persecuted when they are exposed for what they are.  

It's funny how me pointing out the falsehoods in your posts make you feel "viciously attacked."  Huh... yep, funny how that worked out.

I was never exposed Josh because I haven't lied nor have I accepted millions of dollars in preorders (some for products that can't exist). You have walked a very fine line with the truth for a very long time and the veterans of this forum know this reality. Your company needs to deliver very soon. The clocks been ticking for way too long. You can't seem to understand that.

But go ahead, spend all your free time on bitcointalk.org telling me how stupid I am instead of working on delivering the units you took customer money for months ago. That's definitely a winning business strategy.

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April 29, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
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Just one more example of why you're and idiot. 

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
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April 29, 2013, 04:07:37 PM
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It's funny how me pointing out the falsehoods in your posts make you feel "viciously attacked."  Huh... yep, funny how that worked out.



Actually, I think that calling people stupid and idiot over and over and over again is what is meant by the attack comment.

You want to act all innocent, but simply pointing out falsehoods could be accomplished without doing so and in a much more professional manner.
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April 29, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Last edit: April 29, 2013, 04:32:18 PM by charleshoskinson
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Alright since this thread has grown so large, I think we need a recap of what has happened.

First BFL promised magic stuff:



Thus they took lots of money for said stuff:



Then they found out that ASIC development is hard:



And we had to wait a very long time:



When we asked nicely about the delays here was BFL's response:



Which has made me a sad panda:



I post a list of questions that you could have nicely answered:


And here is your response:



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April 29, 2013, 04:25:09 PM
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It's funny how me pointing out the falsehoods in your posts make you feel "viciously attacked."  Huh... yep, funny how that worked out.



Actually, I think that calling people stupid and idiot over and over and over again is what is meant by the attack comment.

You want to act all innocent, but simply pointing out falsehoods could be accomplished without doing so and in a much more professional manner.

See, that's the problem though.  I tried that in his last thread that he created.  He got in a huff, threw a tantrum and locked the thread when it was clear that he had lost the debate.  He's not a rational person... he's just interested in trolling and therefore deserves no consideration.  He's just another waste of resources and nothing more.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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April 29, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
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See, that's the problem though.  I tried that in his last thread that he created.  He got in a huff, threw a tantrum and locked the thread when it was clear that he had lost the debate.  He's not a rational person... he's just interested in trolling and therefore deserves no consideration.  He's just another waste of resources and nothing more.


In that case, would it not be better to just not post back at all?  Don't feed the trolls and all that ...  Grin
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April 29, 2013, 04:36:32 PM
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See, that's the problem though.  I tried that in his last thread that he created.  He got in a huff, threw a tantrum and locked the thread when it was clear that he had lost the debate.  He's not a rational person... he's just interested in trolling and therefore deserves no consideration.  He's just another waste of resources and nothing more.

Josh's guide to pointing out falsehoods.

Step 1 Say this:


Step 2 Say this:


We don't need things like links. Articles, facts, or any of that stuff.

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April 29, 2013, 04:39:40 PM
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I would still like an answer to my very basic questions. When did BFL have a working prototype of their ASIC in lab and ready for testing. And how and when did you guys decide on the power consumption?

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April 29, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
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I dont read all in that thread. But when I understand it, they already send some units. Like this https://plus.google.com/u/0/107253423193517853418/posts/PQuAMcQnq6g I actualy talk with person who have it. So I start think, BFL is maybe not a scam. Or its clever scam Cheesy now more ppl will send money.
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April 29, 2013, 05:01:17 PM
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oh hello bryan micon
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April 29, 2013, 05:11:34 PM
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I would still like an answer to my very basic questions. When did BFL have a working prototype of their ASIC in lab and ready for testing. And how and when did you guys decide on the power consumption?

"I'm sorry, that information is classified."
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April 29, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
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Hardly classified.  You just have to read pretty much any thread related to BFL to get the answer to basically all of his questions.  Something our friend Charlie seems incapable of doing.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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April 29, 2013, 05:26:46 PM
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Josh I told you not to call me charlie outside of the bedroom  Angry

Why don't you link the answer here for us?

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April 29, 2013, 05:32:17 PM
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Josh I told you not to call me charlie outside of the bedroom  Angry

Why don't you link the answer here for us?

Because I'm not your personal secretary. Why don't you do your research before posting your crap and trying to pass it off as fact?

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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April 29, 2013, 05:51:53 PM
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Lol BFL is just recently delivering a few devices?  Bunch of failures, and IMO con artists.

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April 29, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
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(1) This does not mean BFL is not a ponzi scheme. Just because they built a product in no way vets the company's operations

False. If you knew anything about the development of hardware, specifically ASIC devices for Bitcoin mining, you would realize how utterly ridiculous this statement is.

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(2) BFL has never demonstrated a working 25, 50, and 1500 GH/s unit

Your point being?

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(3) They accepted millions of dollars in preorder money and have yet to ship any units to the general public in the queue

Completely false.

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(4) No reliability testing has been done on these units

Also completely false.

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(5) BFL has not been audited and thus we don't know if they have been using their ASICs to mine until it's no longer profitable and then ship. (Double dipping)

Also false, if for no other reason than: If BFL is doing as you say, why has the global hashrate not increased beyond any accountable figures?  Again, it's clear you have zero understanding of anything related to hardware mining, so please stop trying to insert yourself into the conversation when have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

The burden of proof lies with you. You can't just say "false!" and move on. PROVE IT'S FALSE.
I was looking to purchase THREE of the BFL 50GH/s rigs, but from what I've gathered from this thread, by the time I GET a rig, It would be worthless to have invested the 8 grand to do it.
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April 29, 2013, 06:22:59 PM
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The burden of proof lies with you. You can't just say "false!" and move on. PROVE IT'S FALSE.
I was looking to purchase THREE of the BFL 50GH/s rigs, but from what I've gathered from this thread, by the time I GET a rig, It would be worthless to have invested the 8 grand to do it.


I agree.  It should be easier to paste a link than to argue with these people. 

I was in a similar boat, very very close to clicking the order button on some BFL hardware.... But could not justify it being that by the time I would receive it, the BTC difficulty will have risen so much that I'm not sure it wouldn't be a waste of money.
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