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Author Topic: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM  (Read 379217 times)
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May 18, 2013, 03:53:14 PM
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If anyone has seen some of the prices the early pre-ordered BFL miners are going for on ebay, you might conclude that a better business model was just to make  a bunch of $700 pre-orders and then sell them 10 months later for 10 times the price Smiley
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May 18, 2013, 03:59:09 PM
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Damn scary stuff, almost bought in a couple of months ago and I'm definitely glad I didnt.
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May 18, 2013, 04:02:28 PM
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if bfl is a scam, why would they attend the bitcoin conference lately?
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May 18, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
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I ordered 2 jalapenos in August and thought that there was no way that they wouldn't deliver by the end of the year and I told myself I was going to cancel my order at the end of the year. In January, I decided to give BFL the benefit of the doubt and I only refunded one of my jalapenos. Now it's almost 10 months since I ordered. I don't have much to lose so I'm keeping my jalapeno order but this is just BS. What really pisses me off is that at the beginning of this month they put out an e-mail saying they are shipping and got everyone excited but they haven't shipped a damn thing since that e-mail.

It's still happening guys!!! ++++1
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May 18, 2013, 08:06:29 PM
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70.000 preorders...2 months waiting...BFL production is about 1000 miners per day...its joke  Smiley
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May 18, 2013, 10:12:37 PM
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No worries all. The hammer will fall soon enough

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May 18, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
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Part of me is glad I didn't invest in this when I had the chance, Seeing how bad it looks to be turning out =\.

I'm enjoying my asicminer shares, but even these tend to scare me for some reason.

Hope BFL does indeed ship or at least refund the people who have invested deeply into this.

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May 18, 2013, 10:48:38 PM
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I had no idea about some of the stuff in this post and almost got sucked in, I think Id rather sit back and see how it shakes out
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May 18, 2013, 11:17:55 PM
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I also hope BFL delivers. Partly because I have a Jalapeno on order, but mostly just to shut up the pathetic nay-sayers in here once and for all.
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May 18, 2013, 11:36:56 PM
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I also hope BFL delivers. Partly because I have a Jalapeno on order, but mostly just to shut up the pathetic nay-sayers in here once and for all.

I'm glad your enjoying the one thing you wish to deny me. No hard feelings.
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May 18, 2013, 11:49:10 PM
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no hard feelings at all! We will eventually see who is right.

The loser has to buy an egg, and make a .gif of them hitting themselves in the face with it Tongue
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May 18, 2013, 11:54:29 PM
Last edit: May 19, 2013, 12:06:57 AM by MooC Tals
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no hard feelings at all! We will eventually see who is right.

The loser has to buy an egg, and make a .gif of them hitting themselves in the face with it Tongue

I just found out that Sonny's Pappy has done this already in Costa Rica. Just looking out for ya! Man.

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May 19, 2013, 12:04:51 AM
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There is no reason to why they shouldnt ship as long as they are able to produce chips. As far as I understand, the problem was chips performing badly or not working at all.
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May 19, 2013, 12:29:30 AM
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Vids of 50GH BFL miners from Bitcoin Conference up now.

Bitsafe +1

EDIT: http://t.co/XX0LzuEsnK 36 mins in

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May 19, 2013, 09:12:52 PM
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I also hope BFL delivers. Partly because I have a Jalapeno on order, but mostly just to shut up the pathetic nay-sayers in here once and for all.

You can vote here: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag?
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May 19, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
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I also hope BFL delivers. Partly because I have a Jalapeno on order, but mostly just to shut up the pathetic nay-sayers in here once and for all.

You can vote here: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag?

Thanks for the link.
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May 19, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
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InSpades, Read this Post  Grin
This is true ranlo, however this will present significant ethical challenges as Defendants can hold reverse auctions and everybody loses. Only the Lawyers win.
Like I said, Only the Lawyers win.

Isn't that the usual outcome?
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May 19, 2013, 10:14:51 PM
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I truly hope BFL ships sometime soon. I've had a miner on order for around 6 months now, though I understood it could be awhile going in. In the long run I'd like to see ASIC miners become commonplace as I think it would be good for Bitcoin both in terms of security and in keeping it decentralized. With that said, the wait may be hurting those goals in the short term as people have held of adding more GPUs and FPGAs thinking that their ASICs would come any day now.

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May 20, 2013, 01:44:29 AM
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I also hope BFL delivers. Partly because I have a Jalapeno on order, but mostly just to shut up the pathetic nay-sayers in here once and for all.

That has to be the stupidest fucking reason to want something to happen I've ever heard of.

I hope BFL delivers because I don't like seeing people get ripped off.  If I thought like a moron like you thinks, I would hope BFL defaults just to see a loser like you take it in the shorts.

Welcome to ignore, idiot.
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May 20, 2013, 01:08:48 PM
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I think I will return the favour.

I don't know why people keep calling it a scam. They came through with their FPGA's, so it's hardly a fly-by-night organisation - they are designing their 2nd generation mining product in the ASICs.

They just came up against a lot of issues in manufacturing a massively cheap (comparatively) product, at the cutting edge of the technology.

It may not be acceptable for them to have taken so long about filling their orders, but in this type of business, what seems like a minor issue can stop production for a long time (take the example of the UK goverment's "smart meter" for monitoring electricity usage they wanted to create for home use - it has suddenly been delayed by over a year, due to design issues, and that's just an electricity meter, ffs).

Basically, they will deliver, but it will take a while. At least while they aren't delivering, the difficulty isn't going through the roof, so people still mining on GPUs are still profiting.

Anyway, off to find that ignore button....
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