Bitcoin Forum
April 19, 2019, 03:18:54 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.17.1 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 [73] 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 ... 175 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM  (Read 378433 times)
big6willy9
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 10
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 01:39:53 AM
 #1441

Any company that is this dishonest with their customers deserves 0 dollars
100% New Software
PC, Mac, Android, & HTML5 Clients
Krill Rakeback
Low Rake
Bitcoin Poker 3.0
Bad Beat Jackpot
SwC Poker Relaunch
PLAY NOW
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1555643934
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1555643934

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1555643934
Reply with quote  #2

1555643934
Report to moderator
1555643934
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1555643934

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1555643934
Reply with quote  #2

1555643934
Report to moderator
1555643934
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1555643934

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1555643934
Reply with quote  #2

1555643934
Report to moderator
Charleston
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 02:04:05 AM
 #1442

Seems just as likely that they are just incompetent.
lulzpid
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 7
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 04:40:17 AM
 #1443

Yes and they are obviously being manipulated by the shadow jewish international banking cartel..sigh.
n0h0p3
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 14
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 04:48:51 AM
 #1444

they are damn n00bs ! dont trust BFL  Cool
philip123
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
 #1445

I emailed them asking for a refund, because shortly after I ordered one of their units I lost two days of work due to a power outage and medical emergency and could no longer afford the gamble of waiting for their product. I explained this in my email requesting cancellation to them. They didn't answer me after a few days, so I disputed the charge with paypal. Minutes after filing my dispute I received a "Credit memo" in my email that looked sort of like my original invoice except a $6 fee was removed, bringing my refund to just slightly less than what I paid. I felt great, like I would have my money back and be okay financially. Except no money came in that day, nor over this last weekend weekend, or today. No person from Butterfly Labs ever contacted me since I began requesting a refund a week ago. I've just escalated my paypal claim for PayPal to review.

Philip
charleshoskinson
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1092
Merit: 1002

CEO of IOHK


View Profile WWW
May 21, 2013, 05:25:40 AM
 #1446

http://www.coindesk.com/butterfly-labs-ships-long-awaited-asic-bitcoin-miners/

The revolution begins with the mind and ends with the heart. Knowledge for all, accessible to all and shared by all
Stampbit
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 100



View Profile
May 21, 2013, 05:27:09 AM
 #1447

If a scam scams a scam, is it still a scam?
MooC Tals
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 644
Merit: 500


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 05:51:01 AM
Last edit: May 21, 2013, 06:06:22 AM by MooC Tals
 #1448


So it was you that approached Josh at a convention with your coworkers about helping him with the power consumption concerns? He declined the help right?

He could have saved himself a great deal of pain if he only listened to experts.

I really do wish all the best for BFL and even though they don't mention the possibility of the company using pre-oreder money for Rnd (after all there is no proof) I did find it fair and balanced. It did point to a great deal of information about the history over the year. At the same time past criminal behavior was also omitted but I think that would be to slanderous for BFL and non productive. Lets just get the job done. Either way I'm backing off (for now)

Besides the fact that now everyone knows that I "can’t even form a cogent thought" Thanks Josh ASSHOLE lol

Edit: Thanks Dan good article. I guess you were real after all. My bad...

gives thumbs up*
darkmule
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005



View Profile
May 21, 2013, 06:25:16 AM
 #1449


Funny, it links to the pre-order tracking site, which is still a nearly-solid sea of red undelivered orders.
charleshoskinson
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1092
Merit: 1002

CEO of IOHK


View Profile WWW
May 21, 2013, 06:26:10 AM
 #1450

Quote
So it was you that approached Josh at a convention with your coworkers about helping him with the power consumption concerns? He declined the help right?

I've never met Josh before nor do I ever want the displeasure.

The revolution begins with the mind and ends with the heart. Knowledge for all, accessible to all and shared by all
plekhanov
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 20
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 06:32:54 AM
 #1451

When I placed my order which was late Feb, they stated they were in the final stages for shipping; we are now past mid May. I cancelled my order through paypal early April as there were further delays and no guarantees made for delivery.

I cancelled an order for a 25Gh cube.  I still have a jalapeño order in, placed before the price increase.
People have waited longer than I did with larger orders in the queue.  I doff my hat to their patience.  I can risk a small amount on a hobby.  I wasn't willing to wait months or years for a major purchase.

dommyet
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 7
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 07:12:10 AM
 #1452

BFL took our money to develope ASIC, then use the ASIC rigs to mine for itself.
SummersideGuy
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 250


I am a meat Popsicle


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 02:02:25 PM
 #1453

I gave in and ordered a jalapeno on April 30th through paypal, prob will never see it who knows. but what I do know is that 44 days after then order if it is not shipped I will open a dispute through paypal. Now regardless of what BFL states when you order. Paypal seller terms clearly state that a seller has 20 days from accepting preorder money to come forth with goods to be shipped. I do not understand how they are able to provide payment through paypal when paypal also clearly states in its eula that the sales of btc or btc related harware are prohibited.
SO they violate 2 of paypals regulations. So I feel I am covered if I choose to ask for a refund within 45 days of my purchase. Now I know what some will say, that I need patience that i will be far down in the queue ect ect, blah blah. I could care less. 45 days is all I am going to gamble, if I  get a refund in 45 days and in 60 they ship then so be loss is mine, but given their track record the odds are in my favor.
Rampion
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
 #1454

I gave in and ordered a jalapeno on April 30th through paypal, prob will never see it who knows. but what I do know is that 44 days after then order if it is not shipped I will open a dispute through paypal. Now regardless of what BFL states when you order. Paypal seller terms clearly state that a seller has 20 days from accepting preorder money to come forth with goods to be shipped. I do not understand how they are able to provide payment through paypal when paypal also clearly states in its eula that the sales of btc or btc related harware are prohibited.
SO they violate 2 of paypals regulations. So I feel I am covered if I choose to ask for a refund within 45 days of my purchase. Now I know what some will say, that I need patience that i will be far down in the queue ect ect, blah blah. I could care less. 45 days is all I am going to gamble, if I  get a refund in 45 days and in 60 they ship then so be loss is mine, but given their track record the odds are in my favor.

Man, of course it will not be shipped 45 days after order. Did you know that they have already a +10 months delay? You are at the very end of the queue, so do not expect your Jalapeño to be shipped before 2014 (and no, I'm not joking, these are facts based on past history and actual preorder backlog).

GenTarkins
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 02:49:23 PM
 #1455

I think I'll stick with FPGA mining for now; far safer than ASIC's!
amikata
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
 #1456

Is there any alternative ASIC rigs out there?
creativex
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434
Merit: 250



View Profile
May 21, 2013, 03:09:13 PM
 #1457

Is there any alternative ASIC rigs out there?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204030.0

Li Xia
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 12
Merit: 0



View Profile
May 21, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
 #1458

It sounds really thrilling. I mean the comments! Drama, comedy, adventure, action and lots of fun too!


Did some one already pointed that ASICs are FBI/NWO scheme? it's me? Oh so smart me, good me, lol.
VeeMiner
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 751
Merit: 500


bitcoin hodler


View Profile
May 21, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
 #1459

heal the world

darkmule
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005



View Profile
May 21, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
 #1460

BFL took our money to develope ASIC, then use the ASIC rigs to mine for itself.

I'm not exactly a fan and wouldn't be surprised if they did something like this, but if they did, there would be obvious activity on the blockchain proving it.  You can't just sneakily mine BTC because it isn't real until it's on the chain, and if someone else gets the next block before you do, you just lost your version.  So if it isn't showing up on the blockchain, they're not doing it.
Pages: « 1 ... 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 [73] 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 ... 175 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!