CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[spamsucks]

-he claimed during divorce that he has no income,but he gave all his US properties and money to his wife.Further,that man without income and properties obliged to pay $20000  for big house real estate tax, $15.000 for his wife lawyer expenses, to continue paying for his $1.000.000 life insurance and $2.500 monthly payment for child support.From where he will pay that,no money,no income,no assets?

- in class action lawsuit papers there is statement that IRS Criminal Division and SEC put Cryptsy and Vernon under investigation

Of course he gave the property to his wife (soon to be ex) He was leaving ( read fleeing) the country and would not be coming back.
Add to that fact the feds will track down the money and prove it was stolen, they will sell the property to recover the money, leaving the ex wife with nothing.

Would Paul fuck over his family like that?
Yes, yes I believe he would.

bitebi9 will collapse as everyone knows its pauls, and people will not invest there. when he has no other source of income, he will be on the street doing favors for sailors, and charging a small amount for handjobs.

<EDIT>

bitebi9   24 Hour Volume:   19.6490 CNY
19.649 Chinese Yuan equals 3.04 US Dollar


He is rocking the joint! Why with all that volume, I bet he is on the street swallowing every day already...

[Phildo]

-he claimed during divorce that he has no income,but he gave all his US properties and money to his wife.Further,that man without income and properties obliged to pay $20000  for big house real estate tax, $15.000 for his wife lawyer expenses, to continue paying for his $1.000.000 life insurance and $2.500 monthly payment for child support.From where he will pay that,no money,no income,no assets?

- in class action lawsuit papers there is statement that IRS Criminal Division and SEC put Cryptsy and Vernon under investigation

Of course he gave the property to his wife (soon to be ex) He was leaving ( read fleeing) the country and would not be coming back.
Add to that fact the feds will track down the money and prove it was stolen, they will sell the property to recover the money, leaving the ex wife with nothing.

Would Paul fuck over his family like that?
Yes, yes I believe he would.

bitebi9 will collapse as everyone knows its pauls, and people will not invest there. when he has no other source of income, he will be on the street doing favors for sailors, and charging a small amount for handjobs.

<EDIT>

bitebi9   24 Hour Volume:   19.6490 CNY
19.649 Chinese Yuan equals 3.04 US Dollar


He is rocking the joint! Why with all that volume, I bet he is on the street swallowing every day already...

Don't be so sure about that. Florida is a great place to go if you owe people money, why do you think OJ moved there?

[spamsucks]

Don't be so sure about that. Florida is a great place to go if you owe people money, why do you think OJ moved there?

Even in Florida the feds will take back property and sell it if it was bought using stolen funds. The real question is, will they keep it or put it back to the investors

[toeshe]

it would be interesting to see what he claimed he made BEFORE he bought the house. how can you not be involved with laundering when some one slaps 1mil+ cash down with no income ?

[Gleb Gamow]

it would be interesting to see what he claimed he made BEFORE he bought the house. how can you not be involved with laundering when some one slaps 1mil+ cash down with no income ?

Go try to buy a car in the US for ten thousand dollars and one cent and see what brand microscope they stick up your ass to document where the moneys came from. Hell, you'll be hard-pressed to withdraw five grand from your banking account even if you've bank there for years and are on a first name basis with all its employees. Yet, Paul Vernon was able to lay down over a million bucks with only a base salary of a hundred grand a year with nary a question asked, as far as we know.

http://www.coindesk.com/localbitcoins-users-criminal-charges-florida/

At least two men in Florida have been charged for moving large volumes of bitcoins via the popular person-to-person exchange LocalBitcoins.com. They were charged under state anti-money-laundering laws following an investigation by the US Secret Service, said reports.

Security blogger Brian Krebs reported that Michell Abner Espinoza of Miami Beach was arrested after a sting in which an undercover agent engaged him in a fake transaction to convert $30,000 worth of cash into bitcoins.

In addition, 29-year-old Pascal Reid was also arrested after meeting with an undercover agent to exchange $30,000 for bitcoins.

The charges

Both of the men are being charged under two laws. The first is Florida's anti-money laundering law, which targets money exchanges above $10,000.

[spamsucks]

Go try to buy a car in the US for ten thousand dollars and one cent and see what brand microscope they stick up your ass to document where the moneys came from. Hell, you'll be hard-pressed to withdraw five grand from your banking account even if you've bank there for years and are on a first name basis with all its employees. Yet, Paul Vernon was able to lay down over a million bucks with only a base salary of a hundred grand a year with nary a question asked, as far as we know.

Ok stop it right now. We all know Paul was using his own money he kept under the mattress from legit business ventures. He had far more than
the 1 million required, none of it customer money and none of it stolen.

If you try to tell anyone otherwise we will all know you are spreading FUD and Jim will ban you from being online.

[GoldSeal]

cryptsy holding all the casinocoins is going to be a huge blow for the community when 1 CSC = 1 usd. They have the potential to mess it all up. either way they are going to be rich out of it. Just by keeping our coins.

Let me get this straight. I checked casinocoin today, and it's worth like .022 cents with a volume of $340. USD.

HTF is it going to $1.00 USD?

I want some of the shit you're smoking.

It's a very real thing. Very shortly 7 Casinos will start accepting CSC at a minimum of $1/coin. An additional 10 have agreed to accept the coin in Europe following the launch in the Bahamas. Go read the CSC thread and look for posts from Gamingcoins.

If they pay out winnings in the same coin only, it doesn't matter what minimum they accept it at. Even if $100/coin.

Users can cash those in for $1 in fiat in that program. All of that is facilitated through prypto. Check it out if you are interested.

[fakecryptsynagger]

@goldseal why you don't buy whole cryptsy casino   then you can make casino coin turn in USD or Euro

Casinocoin/USD
Casnocoin/Euro  

Or like this
 Casinocoin/doge
Casinocoin/ all others coins

Your coin become ATM machine  

[o0o0]

cryptsy holding all the casinocoins is going to be a huge blow for the community when 1 CSC = 1 usd. They have the potential to mess it all up. either way they are going to be rich out of it. Just by keeping our coins.

Let me get this straight. I checked casinocoin today, and it's worth like .022 cents with a volume of $340. USD.

HTF is it going to $1.00 USD?

I want some of the shit you're smoking.

It's a very real thing. Very shortly 7 Casinos will start accepting CSC at a minimum of $1/coin. An additional 10 have agreed to accept the coin in Europe following the launch in the Bahamas. Go read the CSC thread and look for posts from Gamingcoins.

If they pay out winnings in the same coin only, it doesn't matter what minimum they accept it at. Even if $100/coin.

Users can cash those in for $1 in fiat in that program. All of that is facilitated through prypto. Check it out if you are interested.

So the casino is going to let you deposit your 3 million casinocoin then withdraw 3 million usd? .... i don't see this happening.

[gembitz]

How do international customers who lost coins in Cryptsy get them back, do I need to do something with a US court?

if you are closer to bigvern , ... maybe you just have a chance ? 

[Fontas Returns]

So, are you saying Paul Dalian = Paul Vernon = Bao Luo? Am I following this right? So is Paul/Bao embezzling from Cryptsy to fund new Chinese shell Companies and launder the embezzled money?

- after Cryptsy closure,members found out that not only reported BTC and altcoins missing,but many others coins and cash which were not hacker target - DASH and DOGE worth millions of dollars vanished.From Cryptsy Canada a lot of cash money dissapeared too.Hacker could not take cash so where is it? Now we know that he used members cash money and coins to pay Cryptsy and his own expenses too

How do you know about the dash and doge and the cash from cryptsy canada? What do you mean vanished?

[thunderjet]

After a long work I finally found irrefutable evidences about Paul Vernon aka Bao Luo direct connection with "grand hack".Following traces of BTC from Cryptsy old wallet (which was under Vernon sole control and used for paying Cryptsy expenses and from which users could not get BTC directly) I found that after a hack he sent 368.7 BTC to Bittrex address 1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9 directly from old Cryptsy wallet.

How much his greed is big,can be seen from fact that he sent last BTCs from old Cryptsy wallet to that address on Bittrex on 3rd.March.2016 !!! On 3rd.March.2016 he took last 1.1 BTC from Cryptsy old wallet(direct transactions):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9









But that is not full story.This Bittrex address 1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9  also received 168 BTC from BTER and few dozen BTCs from Mintpal.Following DASH transactions after hack,some members of this forum,found many 5000 DASH transactions from Cryptsy wallet to Mintpal day after day,just few days from hack.Well now we know that was Vernon who sent them on Mintpal,sold for BTC and move some of that BTC to this Bittrex BTC address described above.After fall of Mintpal,BTER is coming into the game - selling was continuing on it.Few members of Cryptsy,including myself during December 2015 received few withdrawals from Cryptsy that were not coming from Cryptsy wallet ,but BTER.It seems that Vernon wanted to prolonge Cryptsy fall a little later,because Bitebi9 project was not finished then.


Now the most interesting part.This address on Bittrex was active in late 2014 and May 2015 (few last txs came from Cryptsy long after Cryptsy fall),when hacker was selling stolen altcoins on Bittrex and other exchanges.Mainly he withdraw BTCs to Bitfinex,but one big withdraw(20 BTCs) was directly moved to BTC wallet (address 1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf) where hacker stored all BTC obtained from selling stolen altcoins on different exchanges - that is direct link with theft .


So:

- on this Bittrex address BTC were coming from Cryptsy old wallet almost until court seized it

- from autumn 2014 until July 2015 - 368.7 BTC came directly from old Cryptsy wallet which was untouchable for users

- finally, 20 BTC were sent from this Bittrex account directly to BTC wallet where hacker stored BTCs obtained from selling stolen altcoins


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d39a289e6a271c9380165090de989aab93f26d834ac27101e38fb5b041b6ec6b


BTC wallet where hacker stored BTCs from selling altcoins:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337



This is link where you can see mine earlier findings about BTC wallet where hacker stored BTC from selling altcoins :


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13678567#msg13678567

[thunderjet]

So, are you saying Paul Dalian = Paul Vernon = Bao Luo? Am I following this right? So is Paul/Bao embezzling from Cryptsy to fund new Chinese shell Companies and launder the embezzled money?

- after Cryptsy closure,members found out that not only reported BTC and altcoins missing,but many others coins and cash which were not hacker target - DASH and DOGE worth millions of dollars vanished.From Cryptsy Canada a lot of cash money dissapeared too.Hacker could not take cash so where is it? Now we know that he used members cash money and coins to pay Cryptsy and his own expenses too

How do you know about the dash and doge and the cash from cryptsy canada? What do you mean vanished?

DASH and DOGE transactions from Cryptsy wallet were traced by few members of this forum(including myself).These wallets were not hacker targets(Vernon said on his blog too) and users got coins from them after theft.So it should be enough coins in Cryptsy DASH and DOGE wallets for all members - but members got only small fraction of it,rest dissappeared. If hacker did not take them,only Vernon could.Many numerous 5000 DASH txs came from Cryptsy DASH wallet day after day ,few days after theft.Most of them went to Mintpal. DASH problem occured in October,DOGE in December,so probably larger percentage of DASH were taken by Cryptsy than DOGE.

On cryptsy canada users traded altcoins for CAD only.In early October first complaints appeared about cash withdraw problems.In November and December it was avalanche of complaints.Hacker could not get cash,so where is money? Only Cryptsy could do it and all money were under Vernon control.

[fakecryptsynagger]

Big question why vernton hide 
That bitcoin was stolen by hacker

 (1) key  questions

(2) her wife know everything about cryptsy
 Because wife catch easily husband mood ( happy ,sad or depression zone of work )

So he share that information some with her wife ,somewhere at the point , it mans she involved that scam too if I see .

3) why court not taking hard action again Vernon wife . why she still out ( I don't understand),
Vern try to divorce to save her n that money too, to feed  there child

(Why he buy $1.3m house name of his wife before divorce / Vernon know that,  his going to be divorce call soon ),

Divorce for what ,vern not fucking well  or he getting gay program virus lol . 
( https://youtu.be/MoUhPCqCU8w )

what was the reasons behind that All this shit

[ThePhwner]

cryptsy holding all the casinocoins is going to be a huge blow for the community when 1 CSC = 1 usd. They have the potential to mess it all up. either way they are going to be rich out of it. Just by keeping our coins.

Let me get this straight. I checked casinocoin today, and it's worth like .022 cents with a volume of $340. USD.

HTF is it going to $1.00 USD?

I want some of the shit you're smoking.

It's a very real thing. Very shortly 7 Casinos will start accepting CSC at a minimum of $1/coin. An additional 10 have agreed to accept the coin in Europe following the launch in the Bahamas. Go read the CSC thread and look for posts from Gamingcoins.

If they pay out winnings in the same coin only, it doesn't matter what minimum they accept it at. Even if $100/coin.

Users can cash those in for $1 in fiat in that program. All of that is facilitated through prypto. Check it out if you are interested.

I hope you realize that you look like a total paid shill for CSC and that continuing to urge people to invest in another bullshit altcoin, especially in this particular thread, makes you look like an ass. There are people here trying to ascertain what happened, hoping for some recovery of their stolen funds, and you keep posting about using some shitcoin to gamble. There's probably a better thread for that.

[photon_coin]

HEY

you know I almost forgot all about CRYPTSY !!

until I logged in and saw I once posted to this thread,

like a bad memory of something I did on a weekend years ago !!

[GoldSeal]

cryptsy holding all the casinocoins is going to be a huge blow for the community when 1 CSC = 1 usd. They have the potential to mess it all up. either way they are going to be rich out of it. Just by keeping our coins.

Let me get this straight. I checked casinocoin today, and it's worth like .022 cents with a volume of $340. USD.

HTF is it going to $1.00 USD?

I want some of the shit you're smoking.

It's a very real thing. Very shortly 7 Casinos will start accepting CSC at a minimum of $1/coin. An additional 10 have agreed to accept the coin in Europe following the launch in the Bahamas. Go read the CSC thread and look for posts from Gamingcoins.

If they pay out winnings in the same coin only, it doesn't matter what minimum they accept it at. Even if $100/coin.

Users can cash those in for $1 in fiat in that program. All of that is facilitated through prypto. Check it out if you are interested.

I hope you realize that you look like a total paid shill for CSC and that continuing to urge people to invest in another bullshit altcoin, especially in this particular thread, makes you look like an ass. There are people here trying to ascertain what happened, hoping for some recovery of their stolen funds, and you keep posting about using some shitcoin to gamble. There's probably a better thread for that.

What I posted was meant to be an exercise in absurdity. We don't expect to get that CSC back. That being said, our community deserves their casinocoin and I don't think they should lose $3m+ to Paul's scam if we hit our targets this year. 99% of the other altcoins that they  are holding are basically worthless. Most were worthless before cryptsy collapsed and the event will serve to thin the herd whether you like it or not.

I expect the coins to be liquidated in the short term as part of the receivership process. Cryptsy and the other creditors will not likely benefit from a possible rise in CSC if that happens soon.

As to enticing people to buy CSC, that ship sailed 6 months ago. 85% are in the hands of people that back the current venture and will not be returning to general circulation anytime soon. It's likely too late for anyone to come in and buy up a significant amount of coins at at windfall price.

BTW, I don't think you have a hope of getting anything substantial back. Maybe in 4 years you get 5% back if you are lucky. Cryptsy is a bloated dead corpse that's been picked over by vultures (Paul) and flies (Paul's friends).

I wish you the best of luck in getting your coins back, ThePhwner (edited to correct name) .

[spamsucks]

... That being said, our community deserves their casinocoin and I don't think they should lose $3m+ to Paul's scam if we hit our targets this year.


Wow... I would have thought the correct answer was none of us should loose our coins to Paul's scam, but thats just me.

paul and the c crew stole from all of us, why would the holders of any one coin get to recover their losses (and potential gains) when so many lost so much?

[TheTommyD]

After a long work I finally found irrefutable evidences about Paul Vernon aka Bao Luo direct connection with "grand hack".Following traces of BTC from Cryptsy old wallet (which was under Vernon sole control and used for paying Cryptsy expenses and from which users could not get BTC directly) I found that after a hack he sent 368.7 BTC to Bittrex address 1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9 directly from old Cryptsy wallet.

How much his greed is big,can be seen from fact that he sent last BTCs from old Cryptsy wallet to that address on Bittrex on 3rd.March.2016 !!! On 3rd.March.2016 he took last 1.1 BTC from Cryptsy old wallet(direct transactions):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9









But that is not full story.This Bittrex address 1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9  also received 168 BTC from BTER and few dozen BTCs from Mintpal.Following DASH transactions after hack,some members of this forum,found many 5000 DASH transactions from Cryptsy wallet to Mintpal day after day,just few days from hack.Well now we know that was Vernon who sent them on Mintpal,sold for BTC and move some of that BTC to this Bittrex BTC address described above.After fall of Mintpal,BTER is coming into the game - selling was continuing on it.Few members of Cryptsy,including myself during December 2015 received few withdrawals from Cryptsy that were not coming from Cryptsy wallet ,but BTER.It seems that Vernon wanted to prolonge Cryptsy fall a little later,because Bitebi9 project was not finished then.


Now the most interesting part.This address on Bittrex was active in late 2014 and May 2015 (few last txs came from Cryptsy long after Cryptsy fall),when hacker was selling stolen altcoins on Bittrex and other exchanges.Mainly he withdraw BTCs to Bitfinex,but one big withdraw(20 BTCs) was directly moved to BTC wallet (address 1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf) where hacker stored all BTC obtained from selling stolen altcoins on different exchanges - that is direct link with theft .


So:

- on this Bittrex address BTC were coming from Cryptsy old wallet almost until court seized it

- from autumn 2014 until July 2015 - 368.7 BTC came directly from old Cryptsy wallet which was untouchable for users

- finally, 20 BTC were sent from this Bittrex account directly to BTC wallet where hacker stored BTCs obtained from selling stolen altcoins


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d39a289e6a271c9380165090de989aab93f26d834ac27101e38fb5b041b6ec6b


BTC wallet where hacker stored BTCs from selling altcoins:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337



This is link where you can see mine earlier findings about BTC wallet where hacker stored BTC from selling altcoins :


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13678567#msg13678567

Great Job thunderjet.

What do you mean by "on this Bittrex address BTC were coming from Cryptsy old wallet almost until court seized it" ?

Are you saying until the Court Seized the Cryptsy Wallet?

If so, I haven't read anything about the Receiver having any actual wallets, let alone the keys.

Thanks

[Gleb Gamow]

HEY

you know I almost forgot all about CRYPTSY !!

until I logged in and saw I once posted to this thread,

like a bad memory of something I did on a weekend years ago !!

Akin to the coyote ugly joke where one chews off his arm so not to wake her, Paul Vernon chews off the arm draped across him, then steals his wallet and sniffs his BVDs one last time prior to exiting to some far-away land.