CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Gleb Gamow]

Bittrex trading record missing of Vern account / bittrex wallet in views now ( they did not find any trading record . which price he dump user altcoin or what price he buy Btc ) bittrex said they update platform due to trading record lost after update .

Wallet record only available of altcoin / Btc

Bittrex putting gas in fire by this type of answer lol

Not expected /

They must have backup copies,no way they permanently lost them

Taxing my memory, I believe Paul Vernon used to brag about Cryptsy's back out copies as well.

I hope that receiver gets an anonymous email quick so that he can take a elevator up a few floors from where he discovered Cryptsy's servers thanks to some other anonymous email.

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[thunderjet]

Bittrex trading record missing of Vern account / bittrex wallet in views now ( they did not find any trading record . which price he dump user altcoin or what price he buy Btc ) bittrex said they update platform due to trading record lost after update .

Wallet record only available of altcoin / Btc

Bittrex putting gas in fire by this type of answer lol

Not expected /

They must have backup copies,no way they permanently lost them

Taxing my memory, I believe Paul Vernon used to brag about Cryptsy's back out copies as well.

I hope that receiver gets an anonymous email quick so that he can take a elevator up a few floors from where he discovered Cryptsy's servers thanks to some other anonymous email.

Receivership claimed Vernon deleted database and they are now trying to restore it from backups(wallets too) with the help of some former Cryptsy employee - probably Mullick,he lives on Florida now.

[BagHolder010]

I have several screen shots of my Cryptsy account taken shortly before the the web-sight was taken down (damnit). Is anyone collecting screen shots of accounts to help build up a case. what should I do with my screen shots or am I completely SOL? Right now I am embracing my pissed-off-ness and trying to accept the terms of my losses. In any event Thank you.   

I took a video of my account lol, just in case there is somehow I can get my coins / money back

[mayax]

I have several screen shots of my Cryptsy account taken shortly before the the web-sight was taken down (damnit). Is anyone collecting screen shots of accounts to help build up a case. what should I do with my screen shots or am I completely SOL? Right now I am embracing my pissed-off-ness and trying to accept the terms of my losses. In any event Thank you.  

Is he finally in jail?
Why do we keep letting these thieves go free?

it's so FUNNY ! on a hand, you are asking for freedom, no gov, no rules, decentralized shit and on the other hand you want the authority(gov) to put someone in jail because he ran with Bitcoin.  

why did "you"(those who lost Bitcoin) use an unlicensed exchanger? why didn't use Coinbase, Itbit, Gemeni, Circle(all these are licensed) ?

stop whining on forums after you use shady exchangers. you assumed a risk, this time you lost. that's it.

[fakecryptsynagger]

Trading record's  example

Bob ;- send 1bitcoin to cryptsy wallet .( cryptsy wallet record got 1btc form Bob accounts)

He trade make profit .now bob have 2btc balance ( trading record )
Bob :- did not withdrew that coins
      2hours after
Cryptsy shutdown for same reason  or hack / user's trading data lost .
Cryptsy restart back . normal again


Bob claim he have  2btc  balance but he got  1 bitcoin balance

But cryptsy  owner said this information base on your deposits ( bob don't have proofs to show . he have 2 Btc , law not even help him in this case )

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Now here bittrex Vernon accounts have samething

Bittrex have deposits n withdrew record
But they don't have trading history of his account

I hope . now you understand @ gleb

[bitofanoob]

Trading record's  example

Bob ;- send 1bitcoin to cryptsy wallet .( cryptsy wallet record got 1btc form Bob accounts)

He trade make profit .now bob have 2btc balance ( trading record )
Bob :- did not withdrew that coins
      2hours after
Cryptsy shutdown for same reason  or hack / user's trading data lost .
Cryptsy restart back . normal again


Bob claim he have  2btc  balance but he got  1 bitcoin balance

But cryptsy  owner said this information base on your deposits ( bob don't have proofs to show . he have 2 Btc , law not even help him in this case )

******************************************************

Now here bittrex Vernon accounts have samething

Bittrex have deposits n withdrew record
But they don't have trading history of his account

I hope . now you understand @ gleb

Perhaps you'll get better results just writing in old javanese then putting it into google translator.

Just kidding

[lissandra]

I have several screen shots of my Cryptsy account taken shortly before the the web-sight was taken down (damnit). Is anyone collecting screen shots of accounts to help build up a case. what should I do with my screen shots or am I completely SOL? Right now I am embracing my pissed-off-ness and trying to accept the terms of my losses. In any event Thank you.   

I took a video of my account lol, just in case there is somehow I can get my coins / money back

Theres not much anyone can do, if you dont have access to them then no one does.

Esp let alone on that site itself, unless someone brute force their self a way in, and magically see the coins there. But at this point, its pretty much all gone and this thread is just keep aware of faulty exchanges.

Not just alt coins, but towards what can happen to bitcoin exchanges as well.

[owlcatz]

it's so FUNNY ! on a hand, you are asking for freedom, no gov, no rules, decentralized shit and on the other hand you want the authority(gov) to put someone in jail because he ran with Bitcoin.  

why did "you"(those who lost Bitcoin) use an unlicensed exchanger? why didn't use Coinbase, Itbit, Gemeni, Circle(all these are licensed) ?

stop whining on forums after you use shady exchangers. you assumed a risk, this time you lost. that's it.

Plenty of people used cryptsy for years, there was nothing shady about it until near the end, just like gox. Using every exchange assumes a risk, so just get over your self, ok?

[mayax]

it's so FUNNY ! on a hand, you are asking for freedom, no gov, no rules, decentralized shit and on the other hand you want the authority(gov) to put someone in jail because he ran with Bitcoin.  

why did "you"(those who lost Bitcoin) use an unlicensed exchanger? why didn't use Coinbase, Itbit, Gemeni, Circle(all these are licensed) ?

stop whining on forums after you use shady exchangers. you assumed a risk, this time you lost. that's it.

Plenty of people used cryptsy for years, there was nothing shady about it until near the end, just like gox. Using every exchange assumes a risk, so just get over your self, ok?

I understand that. They will do the same with Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-e and similar others.   All these are unlicensed. They have NO responsibility toward to their clients.  I will see the same shits ("plenty of people used XXXXX for years") when one of these will disappear(it will happen for sure).

Ok, do you still want use them? Great! Do it but don't complain when something bad it's happening with "your" funds.

[owlcatz]

I understand that. They will do the same with Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-e and similar others.   All these are unlicensed. They have NO responsibility toward to their clients.  I will see the same shits ("plenty of people used XXXXX for years") when one of these will disappear(it will happen for sure).

Ok, do you still want use them? Great! Do it but don't complain when something bad it's happening with "your" funds.

So what? Who cares? People have to use some exchange, "licensed" or not. Not sure what country you are in, but sounds like you are in the USA and are thinking the rest of the world gives half a fuck about licensed exchanges or not - They don't, and yes, you are correct, it will happen again.

Btw, I'm not whining a bit. I lost nothing in that shit hole, I was just pointing out the fact that you don't need to be a condescending douche to these people here who lost $/coins.

[DrxGxr]

it's so FUNNY ! on a hand, you are asking for freedom, no gov, no rules, decentralized shit and on the other hand you want the authority(gov) to put someone in jail because he ran with Bitcoin.  

why did "you"(those who lost Bitcoin) use an unlicensed exchanger? why didn't use Coinbase, Itbit, Gemeni, Circle(all these are licensed) ?

stop whining on forums after you use shady exchangers. you assumed a risk, this time you lost. that's it.

Plenty of people used cryptsy for years, there was nothing shady about it until near the end, just like gox. Using every exchange assumes a risk, so just get over your self, ok?

I understand that. They will do the same with Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-e and similar others.   All these are unlicensed. They have NO responsibility toward to their clients.  I will see the same shits ("plenty of people used XXXXX for years") when one of these will disappear(it will happen for sure).

Ok, do you still want use them? Great! Do it but don't complain when something bad it's happening with "your" funds.

take your adverts else where.  oh btw mtgox had a  licence so your point is what exactly? just another loud mouth distraction causing mofo

[Fontas Returns]

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10497012/Liu_v_Project_Investors,_Inc_et_al
"Friday, May 20, 2016
 51        order Order on Motion for Clerks Entry of Default - FORM  Fri 3:53 PM
 ORDER by Clerk of Entry of Default Re:50 Motion for Clerks Entry of Default as to Paul Vernon. (Default mailed to Paul Vernon). Signed by DEPUTY CLERK on 5/20/2016. (ar2)
 50        motion Clerks Entry of Default  Fri 3:15 PM
 MOTION for Clerks Entry of Default as to Paul Vernon by Jinyao Liu, Brandon Leidel, Michael Wilson.(Silver, David)
       Att: 1   Text of Proposed Order
Wednesday, May 18, 2016
 49        notice Notice (Other)  Wed 11:10 AM
 NOTICE of filing redacted letter filed under seal. [DE 48] (ir)"

[Fontas Returns]

"Letter Filed Under Seal"? What does that mean? Does this mean Paul is under indictment?

[thunderjet]

"Letter Filed Under Seal"? What does that mean? Does this mean Paul is under indictment?

It means that Vernon lawyer thinks some informations are too sensitive to be open for public


Motion for clerks entry - when a person(in this case Vernon) who is required to be present before the court for some proceedings , fails to appear in court.

[BTCat]

CryptoBullion CBX coins that were stored on Cryptsy never moved until now...

#1 CBX holder that is said to be Cryptsy wallet has moved its CBX for the first time since Dec 2015. 
CBX is currently sitting here 5ib6eg58BxJarBWKkK58UzEumsruKbx369 - https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cbx/address.dws?124197.htm

[ThePhwner]

it's so FUNNY ! on a hand, you are asking for freedom, no gov, no rules, decentralized shit and on the other hand you want the authority(gov) to put someone in jail because he ran with Bitcoin.  

why did "you"(those who lost Bitcoin) use an unlicensed exchanger? why didn't use Coinbase, Itbit, Gemeni, Circle(all these are licensed) ?

stop whining on forums after you use shady exchangers. you assumed a risk, this time you lost. that's it.

Plenty of people used cryptsy for years, there was nothing shady about it until near the end, just like gox. Using every exchange assumes a risk, so just get over your self, ok?

Actually it got shady long before "the end" as you put it, so before you get high and mighty about people's assumption of risk, check your facts. Could be as simple as the early posts on this thread letting people know of the issues that pointed to insolvency. They did not operate in a legit fashion for an extended period of time and people knew it, so don't try to be paternal and defend a thief.

[mayax]

I understand that. They will do the same with Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-e and similar others.   All these are unlicensed. They have NO responsibility toward to their clients.  I will see the same shits ("plenty of people used XXXXX for years") when one of these will disappear(it will happen for sure).

Ok, do you still want use them? Great! Do it but don't complain when something bad it's happening with "your" funds.

So what? Who cares? People have to use some exchange, "licensed" or not. Not sure what country you are in, but sounds like you are in the USA and are thinking the rest of the world gives half a fuck about licensed exchanges or not - They don't, and yes, you are correct, it will happen again.

Btw, I'm not whining a bit. I lost nothing in that shit hole, I was just pointing out the fact that you don't need to be a condescending douche to these people here who lost $/coins.

all the countries request a such financial license for operating as "exchanger". where do you live? Europe, Australia, China even in BVI or any other island  you need license

What I am saying is " when you use an illegal service, you may except that something unpleasant to happen". If you accept this risk, "you" should not come on forums for whining, "scam"

[thunderjet]

CryptoBullion CBX coins that were stored on Cryptsy never moved until now...

#1 CBX holder that is said to be Cryptsy wallet has moved its CBX for the first time since Dec 2015. 
CBX is currently sitting here 5ib6eg58BxJarBWKkK58UzEumsruKbx369 - https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cbx/address.dws?124197.htm

It is hard to say is it receivership or Vernon.If it does not move further it is receivership,putting them in a new wallet.

But if it moves further,then it means Vernon is again in the full motion.

[Gleb Gamow]

"Letter Filed Under Seal"? What does that mean? Does this mean Paul is under indictment?

What part of Paul Vernon being under seal didn't you understand? The first seal or the second seal?

[Fontas Returns]

lol it means there's something going on here we don't know about, though, right? a fincen investigation, maybe? Silk road related investigation?