CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[sluppy]

Lol just lol .. bonds for the bounty hunter .. thing is bounty hunters get Paid AFTER they deliver not before for a very good reason if u pay in advance like with most things in life u get FUCKED.

If anyone truly believes that giving your money to CC with get u Anything back but lots of promises I got a bridge and a few castles for sale .. very nice price just for you.

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[Gleb Gamow]

Haha I think Im starting to agree the growth is only going to get crazier. We are adjusting our growth plan to say the least.

You will need staff (mostly moderators). Hopefully the support stays the same, nobody wants tickets that take days to get answered.

Vern own a help desk company as well they have joined the team to triage tickets etc. So 8 Help desk personnel now average response is 2.2 Hrs on a ticket of course some take longer but 2.2 is the average. Also added one moderator already and have a couple guys I'm contacting that I would like to join the team.

I really dont have alot of time for reading this thread and i apologize to those with inquiring minds for that.

Two things id like to clear up.

Me, my wife and a customer support team known as "Support Shift" were brought in to assist in Dec 2013
due to the fast growing user base after that WSJ article came out.

Me and my wife managed that business and it was a perfect ready made team of awesome agents.

Yes, me and Paul worked on afew projects over the years together but i had no idea what a bitcoin was
when we first came to Cryptsy and Bitjohn and others gave me a crash course.


Marshall.  ha  Bloated hot air balloon was how I visioned him right out of the gate.

He did replace our current CTO for a short time but it didnt take long for ppl to lose respect for him because
he would do things like post being co creator.  (100% bullshit)  This pissed off alot of employees who worked'
their ass off and knew better. He may have had some investment, but he wasnt the only one who invested abit im sure.
Marshal was more blow than go

If anyone was Co Creator it was Bitjohn. Not owner but hes been there helping Paul since it was first created.


Eventually Marshal was sent to pasture. Im not exactly sure why, but everyone was glad to see him go including me.

Currently:  I am still Customer Service Manager over the agents handling tickets, our PR guy (Horus), and some
of the verifications for upgrading Tier Levels.


I do not know whats happened. All i know is it all started going bad right after we added the new Tier Level systems for KYC
requirements and the major facelift and feature additions. So I can only "assume" that this is where the problem lies.
I do know this system is an extremely large, very complicated setup and when things go wrong it can prob be tough at times to
pinpoint where a problem lies.

I pass on info to users as I get it. Thats all I can do.

I have been informed that things should begin improving soon, what that entails or means is yet to be seen.

Knowing BigVern for many years, I can attest to the fact that whatever is wrong it is not something intentional or done maliciously by him.
Hes just not that type. He works hard, has a big heart and has always tried to make things right for users.
Im sure in the end this will be no different.

Greenlion was a volunteer mod he doesn't count probably. The layoffs were devs, netadmins and compliance there was a Tier II support employee in there in CS as well. So hes most likely referring to the Tier I CS agents.

Edit: Yes Jim did all the hiring. I was asked to bring him up to speed since the interface, and company was new to him and his team.

Edit 2: I was put on payroll when Jim came to the company for that reason. Yes I worked for Jim for some time.

Edit 3: Was going to quote gleb but its too long Ill just comment. Yes your timeline is pretty accurate 6-12 months not Leroy time. Ginny was not the first accountant. The first accountant left the company about 4-5 months ago. Bryant was the first CTO replaced by Marshall Long who also left a month or two ago. Supportshift was the company that came in and took over support and later just merged in. Yes myself Mullick, Horus and Pr9me were paid all at the same time when Jim was brought in though it was as contractors for the first check or two don't remember exactly. Jim did the hiring though a few folks were already doing most of the support so no he didn't hire them. They did all work for him.

http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/ConvertTiffToPDF?storagePath=COR%5C2013%5C0131%5C44196936.tif&documentNumber=P11000090223



http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=SUPPORTSHIFT%20P110000902230&aggregateId=domp-p11000090223-d3ee05a5-b53d-4504-9ac4-3b679b9e0567&searchTerm=SUPPORT%20SHIFT&listNameOrder=SUPPORTSHIFT%20P110000902230



Facts:

Jim Shockney was brought on in October 2013, with BitJohn mentioning the event in late November.
Jim Shockney mentions joining Cryptsy in December 2013, with his ready made team of support staff - Support Shift - owned by Paul Vernon.
Support Shift was dissolved in January 2013, ergo all staffing hands had no reasons to wait around for the company to PHOENIX.

[TheTommyD]

I know i`ve read this a few times already. I have to say it again.

You, Thunderjet et al deserve an award.

[dac10]

So our leafcoin coins,ended on CRYPTOPIA!!!???Someone can locate the wallet leafcoin of Cryptsy, we can find some movements?

[Gleb Gamow]

Take a look at this: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/996855790962dc33?page=2

Was/Is there a way to use SD to launder moneys, i.e., use one address for input, and receive output via another address?

[thunderjet]

Take a look at this: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/996855790962dc33?page=2

Was/Is there a way to use SD to launder moneys, i.e., use one address for input, and receive output via another address?

No,SD(who is that?- Satoshi Dice owner?) cant launder money on that way - he just removes deposited BTCs to main address/hot wallet with fancy address 1dice - 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6


https://oxt.me/address/1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6


If you want to look at money origin always look at first deposits in the wallet, in this case it is transaction of 191 BTC initial deposit:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8516740c70218e153e4e7974af0bc966ab87392579a0afb3c9f684f0e855cc69



Addresses from this deposit came: 19t7RxwXdfiwQMyQ3JVB16e9HgV7omijSs  and 1FnqX51HcYrdjeFV4QqAz7bM2neWNR2Kxh are belonging to Pico Stocks com - that is money connection:

https://oxt.me/address/1FnqX51HcYrdjeFV4QqAz7bM2neWNR2Kxh

https://oxt.me/address/19t7RxwXdfiwQMyQ3JVB16e9HgV7omijSs


https://picostocks.com/


Pico Stocks owner is Leszek Rychlewski from Poznan - Poland and most likely owner of Satoshi Dice.com too:

http://picostocks.com.ipaddress.com/

[Gleb Gamow]

Take a look at this: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/996855790962dc33?page=2

Was/Is there a way to use SD to launder moneys, i.e., use one address for input, and receive output via another address?

No,SD(who is that?- Satoshi Dice owner?) cant launder money on that way - he just removes deposited BTCs to main address/hot wallet with fancy address 1dice - 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6


https://oxt.me/address/1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6


If you want to look at money origin always looks at first deposits in the wallet, in this case it is transaction of 191 BTC initial deposit:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8516740c70218e153e4e7974af0bc966ab87392579a0afb3c9f684f0e855cc69



Addresses from this deposit came: 19t7RxwXdfiwQMyQ3JVB16e9HgV7omijSs  and 1FnqX51HcYrdjeFV4QqAz7bM2neWNR2Kxh are belonging to Pico Stocks com - that is money connection:

https://oxt.me/address/1FnqX51HcYrdjeFV4QqAz7bM2neWNR2Kxh

https://oxt.me/address/19t7RxwXdfiwQMyQ3JVB16e9HgV7omijSs


https://picostocks.com/


Pico Stocks owner is Leszek Rychlewski from Poznan - Poland and most likely owner of Satoshi Dice.com too:

http://picostocks.com.ipaddress.com/

SD = SatoshiDice

Yes, I'm aware of looking at the first transaction to an address. There was another post briefly up replying to your reply falsely assuming it was from earlier today in re. the 19t7... bitcoin wallet address (BWA), but I deleted it upon realizing my error (only second one this year  ): https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8516740c70218e153e4e7974af0bc966ab87392579a0afb3c9f684f0e855cc69

Here's how I stumbled upon 1Q6pPRQ7fQMeTQzv2SzdXeYiT9S6UbWKpy (working backwards unless I fuck up the timeline along the way).

Firstly (shit! or is lastly?), I had to register with http://hackforums.net/ to glean some info, namely http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5117211&pid=49214609#pid49214609

Don't cry one of my friend lost 200 btc on satoshidice when price was 700+ per bitcoin

http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5117211&pid=49215069#pid49215069



http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5117211&pid=49215456#pid49215456

Here you go..

1Q6pPRQ7fQMeTQzv2SzdXeYiT9S6UbWKpy
Google what was the bitcoin value in november 2013.

If you still dont believe, I can sign any message with its private key.

I aint lyin nigga.

How I stumbled upon the above address:

https://twitter.com/OWSLEYBEATS/status/393447102245658625



It's already been established that Owsleybeats et al. is John Hammes aka BitJohn: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13625173#msg13625173

AND

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13625318#msg13625318

Back to the stumble...

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1ExR58McuA4samEcMRkeVtckhBmdGLWuGL



https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/996855790962dc33?page=2



Unless I'm mistaken, Owsley (BitJohn) funded the wallet which a user on the hacker site has the private keys to the address of the person who lost 200 BTC on SatoshiDice.

[thunderjet]

I traced your links and found these things:

- 1ExR58McuA4samEcMRkeVtckhBmdGLWuGL has only one small deposit 0.002,probably just test deposit.

Wallet:   https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0003080ee7d5edc3

has more than 11000 deposit addresses and hardly that someone with just one deposit is owner


- if you look at first - initial test deposits of wallet  0003080ee7d5edc3:


https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0003080ee7d5edc3?page=376



you will see that first ones came from wallet:     https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c74feefb817ed28


which belongs to other gambling site Primedice.com


So there are defintely connection between owners of gambling sites Satoshi Dice and Prime Dice.

Money flows only in one direction - from Prime Dice to Satoshi Dice and that is a pretty good proof that these sites have same owner - that guy from Poland who owns Pico Stocks or he has some percent in Prime Dice.


This address you gave 1Q6pPRQ7fQMeTQzv2SzdXeYiT9S6UbWKpy:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1Q6pPRQ7fQMeTQzv2SzdXeYiT9S6UbWKpy?page=2

has first input of 191 BTCs from Pico Stocks from mine previous post - so who ever posts that address on that hacker site was lying that is a gamble loss - it was initial deposit for opening this Satoshi Dice auxilliary wallet

[Gleb Gamow]

Father and Son? (John Hammes II and III, the latter aka BitJohn)

This dude, now living in KC, KC, used to live with the Hammes in Florida an is still friends with the family: https://www.facebook.com/eric.collyard

Ref.: https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/ericcollyardllc-sarasota-fl-30671002.html

[Flym0x]

https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11146241_10204200673838013_7033607127793908622_n.jpg?oh=6080478b790d26b470e85c2fbf638580&oe=57BB1688 https://i.imgur.com/muaU4cU.jpg

Father and Son? (John Hammes II and III, the latter aka BitJohn)

This dude, now living in KC, KC, used to live with the Hammes in Florida an is still friends with the family: https://www.facebook.com/eric.collyard

Ref.: https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/ericcollyardllc-sarasota-fl-30671002.html

https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12189756_10205181847170728_4849034675739192561_n.jpg?oh=231052aab3a1d0514422227379aba14e&oe=57BCE8F0

dox all of their family, the biggest of crooks and shady bastards always break down when you do that, big weakness, ps good job on all the info thunderjet, gleb and spotnik

[ThePhwner]

glem why dont you just shutup and let me and cryptcracker work quiet behind scenes to get your money back .

What kind of weaksauce half-assed "Hacker" / "bounty hunter" / whatever fucking mythical creature you think you are, gets distracted by forum posts? Move on kid.

[fakecryptsynagger]

When he going to surrender poxy war .
Vernon have people miming contract also altcoin hug fund
He have win win game in both side
Mining contract still run .
Altcoin pumping n dumping earn extra cash
Full of  cream with a chocolate's tube / he also own new exchange hahahaha

You can't see me . how happy I'm :-

http://imgur.com/fLX8MV7

https://youtu.be/FYOiNHdNGrU

[Spoetnik]

Hmmm i was calling Bullshit on thunderjet claims of him being on Cryptsy chat when it started way back here..
He said he was a regular etc and had already went on warning people like crazy on the Troll-Box..
Problem is i was on the Troll-Box 24/7 everyday and i don't recall seeing his name back then
or even hearing 1 other person accuse Cryptsy of anything really.
I got myself a ban many times as well as butting heads with all the staff countless times
far before Jim showed up with his pre-dissolved company "Support Shift"

So thunderjet i think you were bullshitting or exaggerating the timing of your initial claims etc.
I said that on this topic long ago when you started talking.
You FIRST showed here repeating what Gleb & Peonminer had already posted 50 times.

BUT since then i think you have done a great job job at doing wallet research.
So if you exaggerated your times in your stories etc that is not that big a deal i guess
And i would bet when you re-posted old info from Gleb + Peon you simply did not see it posted first.
I think it was an honest mistake of sorts.

There has been some old critics of Cryptsy going back to the old days mid-2013 and i know WHO they are.
I was there CONSTANTLY so i know LOL
It's not hard to remember because there was only a couple of us.. most people sucked up to them hard.
My perspective was simply to keep their feet held to the fire.
This was not done to be mean but to simply hold them in the powerful position accountable.
But i can not do that on my own.. i requires the community at large to do that.
And the majority failed to do their job (Hold Cryptsy accountable)
Instead they played Fanboy and went on Cheerleading no matter what bad stunt Cryptsy pulled
..for MONEY $$$

I have never ever had a damn thing personal against Cryptsy
i just wanted them to be a stand up honest company and treat their users with respect.
(aside from Jim's big mouth i have an issue with him because he is disrespectful & mouthy)
I also seriously do not consider Jim staff at Cryptsy either..
He showed up way late to Crypto knew fuck all about it and marched around like king shit acting like an asshole.
For example i posted on this topic Cryptsy had Private Messaging on their chat before.
So Jim ran over and posted on THIS TOPIC that i was a liar and full of shit and it never happened.
WRONG.
I don't like being moderated by idiots who don't know shit all.
He has a huge attitude problem and i really don't like the guy.
Every other person at Cryptsy though.. it was nothing personal people.

Centralized exchanges run in a powerful position leaving the user vulnerable.
Leading up to the Fall of Cryptsy the users gave Vern the green light.. he knew he could get away with anything.
And most users would simply blow him and defend him on the web.
Had you all kept Cryptsy's feet to the fire it would have been far more difficult for him to pull scams.
When users get paranoid they would / should have pulled their funds out for example.
But what did we see as drama mounted ?
An ACTUAL INCREASE in user activity and the fanboy Cryptsy cheerleading mounted to a fever pitch.
Sorry Cryptsy users but YOU are as responsible for your money as Vern was / is.
You all created the situation that made it possible for him to rip you off.
No matter what happened you all simply sucked BigVern & Friends cock.
So he had to have known he could go GOX cry FUD and walk off easily..

And i got PM's from guys who started in crypto before me who STILL after all this hopes Cryptsy comes back.  
What does that tell ya guys ?

I basically quit Crypto for one reason.. majority control.
The majority is an idiot who wants profits & Lambo's off of any scam they can profit from.
THEY control the Crypto scene.
There for Crypto is no longer something i can be a part of.. recently donated the last of my coins.
It was not Mark & Vern that let me down

It was you people who supported them.

You guys better enjoy your chump change profits arb'ing a scam coin on Shitsy as it was obviously collapsing.
Is the chump change greedy profits worth the price we pay over all ?

Cryptsy has taught us that Polo / Trex etc are watching and they NOW KNOW
they too can pull a GOX any time they want.
Wait for it..

And get ready to line up to blame others for it all too of course.  

[fakecryptsynagger]

After  long autobiography of cryptsy.
 I found cryptsy user doing like this 

https://youtu.be/YersIyzsOpc

When they seen Vernon statement

Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.

[Gleb Gamow]

"Simply genius, Hammes. So, you were able to get all this equipment through Halliburton to run Cryptsy from this war zone here in Afghanistan, eh? I'd have to admit that Paul Vernon's a good man. He sucked my dick a many times at Ft Hood, albeit not as much I liked being only a 3-Star General and all, but enough to make me happy. You know what'll make me happy here, son? Of course you do. Get down on your knees and give me 40 and I'll let you keep all this equipment so that you can continue with your non-paying hobby. Oh, and by the way, it's 40 a day, everyday, and I love having my balls cupped while getting them 40, son."

[CryptoNick]

Problem is i was on the Troll-Box 24/7 everyday and i don't recall seeing his name back then
or even hearing 1 other person accuse Cryptsy of anything really.

Probably since there were so many bans... I was never perma banned though and I spoke up many times daily for a few weeks during each event about them not Freezing accounts for CRYPT PnD fraud, and the MN2 Bait n Switch. I felt these were RED FLAGS. I was told stop whining, WhaleOrNot would chime in to shut me up every time I tried to alert people. I took my coins out right before the supposed hack. I wish everyone had done the same, I even made a Thread on BCT and pasted it into the troll box. I didn't go further with it since I pulled my coins out and only lost some getting out of MN2. We tried...

[TheTommyD]

It's too bad no one here (including me) can afford the transcripts to see whats going on in the court.

[thunderjet]

Hmmm i was calling Bullshit on thunderjet claims of him being on Cryptsy chat when it started way back here..
He said he was a regular etc and had already went on warning people like crazy on the Troll-Box..
Problem is i was on the Troll-Box 24/7 everyday and i don't recall seeing his name back then
or even hearing 1 other person accuse Cryptsy of anything really.
I got myself a ban many times as well as butting heads with all the staff countless times
far before Jim showed up with his pre-dissolved company "Support Shift"

So thunderjet i think you were bullshitting or exaggerating the timing of your initial claims etc.
I said that on this topic long ago when you started talking.
You FIRST showed here repeating what Gleb & Peonminer had already posted 50 times.

BUT since then i think you have done a great job job at doing wallet research.
So if you exaggerated your times in your stories etc that is not that big a deal i guess
And i would bet when you re-posted old info from Gleb + Peon you simply did not see it posted first.
I think it was an honest mistake of sorts.

There has been some old critics of Cryptsy going back to the old days mid-2013 and i know WHO they are.
I was there CONSTANTLY so i know LOL
It's not hard to remember because there was only a couple of us.. most people sucked up to them hard.
My perspective was simply to keep their feet held to the fire.
This was not done to be mean but to simply hold them in the powerful position accountable.
But i can not do that on my own.. i requires the community at large to do that.
And the majority failed to do their job (Hold Cryptsy accountable)
Instead they played Fanboy and went on Cheerleading no matter what bad stunt Cryptsy pulled
..for MONEY $$$

I have never ever had a damn thing personal against Cryptsy
i just wanted them to be a stand up honest company and treat their users with respect.
(aside from Jim's big mouth i have an issue with him because he is disrespectful & mouthy)
I also seriously do not consider Jim staff at Cryptsy either..
He showed up way late to Crypto knew fuck all about it and marched around like king shit acting like an asshole.
For example i posted on this topic Cryptsy had Private Messaging on their chat before.
So Jim ran over and posted on THIS TOPIC that i was a liar and full of shit and it never happened.
WRONG.
I don't like being moderated by idiots who don't know shit all.
He has a huge attitude problem and i really don't like the guy.
Every other person at Cryptsy though.. it was nothing personal people.

Centralized exchanges run in a powerful position leaving the user vulnerable.
Leading up to the Fall of Cryptsy the users gave Vern the green light.. he knew he could get away with anything.
And most users would simply blow him and defend him on the web.
Had you all kept Cryptsy's feet to the fire it would have been far more difficult for him to pull scams.
When users get paranoid they would / should have pulled their funds out for example.
But what did we see as drama mounted ?
An ACTUAL INCREASE in user activity and the fanboy Cryptsy cheerleading mounted to a fever pitch.
Sorry Cryptsy users but YOU are as responsible for your money as Vern was / is.
You all created the situation that made it possible for him to rip you off.
No matter what happened you all simply sucked BigVern & Friends cock.
So he had to have known he could go GOX cry FUD and walk off easily..

And i got PM's from guys who started in crypto before me who STILL after all this hopes Cryptsy comes back.  
What does that tell ya guys ?

I basically quit Crypto for one reason.. majority control.
The majority is an idiot who wants profits & Lambo's off of any scam they can profit from.
THEY control the Crypto scene.
There for Crypto is no longer something i can be a part of.. recently donated the last of my coins.
It was not Mark & Vern that let me down

It was you people who supported them.

You guys better enjoy your chump change profits arb'ing a scam coin on Shitsy as it was obviously collapsing.
Is the chump change greedy profits worth the price we pay over all ?

Cryptsy has taught us that Polo / Trex etc are watching and they NOW KNOW
they too can pull a GOX any time they want.
Wait for it..

And get ready to line up to blame others for it all too of course.  

Yes,I was on Cryptsy chat regular,except for 2 weeks in the end of October when I got 2 weeks silent ban(like Grammar Hammer) from JShock,because I said one guy in the chat that filling support ticket wont help him and he has to wait to see some admin in chat who is willing to help him.

One russian girl from chat and me were trying to find Cryptsy wallets and found that hot wallet is empty and relying exclusively on new deposits.Also we found a separate wallet with 11325 BTC which was looking as genuine cold wallet and put it in the chat many times also with a small 500 BTC - 5x100 BTC txs.That was in November 2015.

So Cryptsy and Vernon knows that we know for this wallet but keep pretending that is everything OK.In that time I havent evidences that is a product of theft and that Vernon were silently moved BTCs to other exchanges.

When Iam posting things Iam trying to find really solid evidences for mine claims,not just empty accusations.I could yelling Thiefs!! ,but without solid evidences it would be very stupid.So I put in chat that cause maybe was they somehow lost passwords from encrypted wallets,because Cryptsy was notorius for weird glitches and technical difficulties.I also regulary informed people that hot wallet is empty and funded only from new deposits and giving daily reports how much BTCs Crypts sent to the users.

I posted on Cryptsy chat suspicious transactions of 150 BTC from old Cryptsy hot wallet to address I thought it was mixer ,but lately found it is one of Bitfinex hot  wallet.Also I post infos of txs going to BTCC and Alpha Bay market.

All infos about suspicious txs what Peonminer put here were mine from Cryptsy chat,including mine suspicious(not found any direct connection for now) that there is a connection between Vernon Cryptsy and cloud mining operator Scryptsy.Unforunately I have no full chat transcribe,but if you dont believe me ask Peonminer where he found his data.Iam not a liar and dont seek any glory or reward for what Iam doing.All I want is full criminal investigation about Vernon and Cryptsy,so the scammers should think twice before they do something similar.

I was so mad that after Cryptsy closure,when Vernon put in blog statement how he was suprised about finding that "hacker" didnt move stolen BTCs yet.He was hacked and didnt monitor what is happening with stolen BTCs!!? Then I realized that was probably planned long time ago and start digging all blockchain info.

In one mine post I talked about Foopile and didnt know that Gleb founded this thing first,but when I realized it, I apologized to him.

Here is a little part of save Cryptsy chat transcribe,earlier put by other members.

[escobarr]

How many of you people filed the lawsuit thru Silverlaw? I am about to sign the contract with them. If there is any other good alternative, please share.


@thunderjet - thank you so much for your work.

[Gleb Gamow]

How many of you people filed the lawsuit thru Silverlaw? I am about to sign the contract with them. If there is any other good alternative, please share.


@thunderjet - thank you so much for your work.

He stole his work from me.  

Seriously, we've found stuff a few times independent of one another, most the time acknowledging the other's work, thus it's all cool here on my end, as well as his I'll safely assume.

One day I'm gonna learn how to put neat red boxes around text so that it'll look like I'm a pro too.