CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Fontas Returns]

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[Fontas Returns]

Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

[dcgirl]

Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.

[TheTommyD]

Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.

Would that include the keys to those wallets?

[dcgirl]

Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.

Would that include the keys to those wallets?

As far as I know. If you find out otherwise please let me know, thanks.

[Fontas Returns]

Can you confirm Vern has sent back the wallets thunderjet tracked to him as well as the 13000 he tried to steal?

Specifically talking about these wallets:



1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332     50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074    19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775    22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786    34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805    22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147    12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239    19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806        8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867    4   393904

and these:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z
1DqCNwUffFTxULH8crehynw53TwrHnrv1c
1DSxcqygQ69MxRc8oW94kQjWHzMb4BYsnG
13nAJw8jw7BiYKLnad9YGdPxybK9mgPkM6
18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD
1315LzDFcBLDBKgVAr4ZhCkcT5GXivpiuj
etc

I am concerned he might try to withhold these embezzled/laundered coins away from the receiver. The reason it's so important is because if he withholds them he's probably going to jail for embezzlement and money laundering but if he returns them he might not even go to jail or if he does it might just be for fraud or contempt of court, not as serious.
Plus if he does the right thing and returns all the coins he tried to steal no one has to sue macphereson, shockney lorrie nettles or any of the others at cryptsy. That's why I hope he makes this right for everyone.

[dcgirl]

Can you confirm Vern has sent back the wallets thunderjet tracked to him as well as the 13000 he tried to steal?

Specifically talking about these wallets:



1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332     50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074    19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775    22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786    34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805    22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147    12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239    19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806        8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867    4   393904

and these:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww
etc

I am concerned he might try to withhold these embezzled/laundered coins away from the receiver. The reason it's so important is because if he withholds them he's probably going to jail for embezzlement and money laundering but if he returns them he might not even go to jail or if he does it might just be for fraud or contempt of court, not as serious.

I can't really confirm anything, just relate what he told me, that he has turned over all customer funds to the receiver. I will, however, continue to follow up on this.

[Fontas Returns]

Thanks I think we all appreciate someone from Cryptsy giving us some answers.

[o0o0]

Can you confirm Vern has sent back the wallets thunderjet tracked to him as well as the 13000 he tried to steal?

Specifically talking about these wallets:



1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332     50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074    19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775    22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786    34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805    22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147    12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239    19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806        8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867    4   393904

and these:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww
etc

I am concerned he might try to withhold these embezzled/laundered coins away from the receiver. The reason it's so important is because if he withholds them he's probably going to jail for embezzlement and money laundering but if he returns them he might not even go to jail or if he does it might just be for fraud or contempt of court, not as serious.

I can't really confirm anything, just relate what he told me, that he has turned over all customer funds to the receiver. I will, however, continue to follow up on this.

Did vern happen to mention why he was stil selling coins on bittrex when cryptsy was unavailable to customers to withdraw? Or why when it was receiver appointed he was still selling. Surely you can see he's being a naughty boy.

[dcgirl]

Did vern happen to mention why he was stil selling coins on bittrex when cryptsy was unavailable to customers to withdraw? Or why when it was receiver appointed he was still selling. Surely you can see he's being a naughty boy.

I'm not sure what the reason was. I made clear that those coins do not belong to Paul Vernon, they do not belong to Cryptsy and they do not belong to the receiver. But legally the receiver is now the custodian of those funds. I'm happy that he agreed to do the right thing, and will not drop this. I will also speak up if the receiver tries to liquidate the coins to satisfy company debt.

[o0o0]

Did vern happen to mention why he was stil selling coins on bittrex when cryptsy was unavailable to customers to withdraw? Or why when it was receiver appointed he was still selling. Surely you can see he's being a naughty boy.

I'm not sure what the reason was. I made clear that those coins do not belong to Paul Vernon, they do not belong to Cryptsy and they do not belong to the receiver. But legally the receiver is now the custodian of those funds. I'm happy that he agreed to do the right thing, and will not drop this. I will also speak up if the receiver tries to liquidate the coins to satisfy company debt.

so he admitted to selling coins on bittrex? though its obvious it was him seeing as other employees stated only paul had access to keys. thats if they were telling the truth. whats your opinion on paul? full gox and shady now or...? im curious

[aardvark15]

Wouldn't it be better if Vernon made the coins available on Cryptsy so we can withdraw them?  That way they wouldn't have to go through the lawyers that are going to take most of it in their fees.  If he would just let us withdraw the coins from Cryptsy, we could get 100% of our coins back, right?

[Fontas Returns]

Just sent this off to bittrex and the receiver's email:

Fontas Returns <fontasreturns@gmail.com>
11:33 AM (0 minutes ago)

to support, media, jds
Hi, I am writing to inform you of some concerning facts that have come to light following the situation with the Cryptsy theft. As you know someone, most likely Paul Vernon, recently got caught putting Cryptsy coins on Bittrex in a suspicious transaction. However, a bitcointalk.org user who calls himself "thunderjet" has done a forensic audit on the "critical event" and has found that the forensics show this recent suspicious transaction with the UNO wallet is part of an ongoing pattern of suspicious transactions that appear to be an embezzlement scheme of Paul Vernon or other culprit who stole coins off Cryptsy in 2014. It appears from forensic audit this pattern of suspicious Bittrex transactions relating to the apparent embezzlement go back at least as far as 2014-10-14.

The Cryptsy thief is believed to control this btc wallet, and the coins in it are believed to be the main stash of laundered proceeds from the embezzlement of the alt coins which appear to have been sold on bittrex and other exchanges:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

wallet addresses of main stash :

1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332 50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074 19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775 22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786 34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805 22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147 12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239 19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806 8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867 4   393904

The specific bittrex transactions relating to this theft can be found at this link:
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337?page=2

According to the findings of thunderjet, (which appear to be the best forensic accounting of the Cryptsy hack now known publicly) indicate that a big chunk of the stolen alts were laundered through bittrex in 2015 perhaps going back into 2014 and whoever controls the bittrex account(s) associated with these transactions is probably the Cryptsy thief(most likely Paul Vernon).

Sincerely, a concerned crypto community member

"Bill (Bittrex)

 Apr 12, 11:15

Hi,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. While we can't provide any information on ongoing investigations, all relevant information is being sent to the proper authorities. Forensic work from the community and exchanges helps law enforcement and regulators know that we're mature enough to handle this space without overly aggressive regulation.

The situation with Cryptsy is unfortunate and if we're able to, we'd like to help resolve the situation as quickly as we can.

Thank you again,
Bill"

[spamsucks]

Wouldn't it be better if Vernon made the coins available on Cryptsy so we can withdraw them?  That way they wouldn't have to go through the lawyers that are going to take most of it in their fees.  If he would just let us withdraw the coins from Cryptsy, we could get 100% of our coins back, right?

He doesn't have cryptsy anymore. Its gone like your coins.

The court took it away from him because he has proven he is not able to handle it.

Now the courts will take a long time to work out what is what, and who should have what. No matter how you look at it, there was more than one theft here.  The "hacker" stealing the 1300 BTC and all the other alt coins. Then cryptsy itself and its employees for running a ponzi after the fact.
All the crypto coins will be liquidated, and sold and the depositors will get to apply for the change that is left after the lawyers are done with it.

Believe me, the lawyers will get paid.  

one coin vs the other coin... Paul and the crew stole from all of us.

[dcgirl]

so he admitted to selling coins on bittrex? though its obvious it was him seeing as other employees stated only paul had access to keys. thats if they were telling the truth. whats your opinion on paul? full gox and shady now or...? im curious

I go back and forth about what I think. I usually try to find the good in people but when I saw what was going on at trex it just cut me to the core and I had to try to stop it.

[Spoetnik]

LOL how long have you been lurking DCGirl ?

Romes nice to see you catch up finally hahah
PS: you ruined Crypto single handidly.

Gleb thanks for the softcore gay porn

Fontas nice to see you back and good work.
And i hope to see a reply from Bittrex publicly... we know Ritchie & Ryan etc are reading this.

You guys all learning anything yet ?

You ain't gettin' away with fuck all LOL

I recall the GOX drama way back.. the site went down and actually said hackers stole the coins.
Later his lawyer came forward and made a public statement saying Mark
had found a USB drive in his couch cushion containing thousands of Bitcoins.

See how these guys are soooooooooooooo legit and shooting their mouth off.
..until they are cornered  

PS:
Where did Mullick go way back.
He came here and said he had no idea how my Cryptsy registration name was leaked here
then vanished. OCTOBER 2015
He WAS the wallet guy sooooo uhhhhhhhh
Horus said he was going to go all PI and find the hacker and Vern offered a bounty..
did Horus investigate Mullick ?

And by the way ALL OF CRYPTSY staff i am still waiting for my defamation lawsuit you mouthy fucking cunts.  
They had in time taken turns threatening me and some others with law suit threats.
If i wasn't lazy i would go get some all-star LOL'z comments and post them of these Cryptsy idiots.
They are all guilty and all act like innocent angels.. don't even get me started on shit coin shill DCGirl chicky here.
I was actually on chat the exact point in time, they made her a MOD and i was stunned.

CRYPTO = SLEAZY SCAMMY 2 FACED LYING GREEDY IDIOTS

drown you fucking faggots.

I put up with YEARS of bullshit from all these cock suckers playing innocent now caught red handed.
I pleaded with them all endlessly to do the right thing and was mouthed off.
And i told them way back, i'm right and i will be saying "I told you so" later.

Cryptsy assholes you get NO sympathy from me.. you do not deserve it.
Go fuck yourselves and i hope you get jail time every one of you sleazy pieces of shit.
You fucking mouthy losers scammed your way around crypto for big money and treated me like dirt every step of the way.
So i relish in your misery and hope to taste your tears  

And you shit head idiot greedy arb'ing fucktard Fanboy supporters can blow me.. your greedy deceitful morons.

The only one i might have any respect for from Cryptsy is BitJohn the rest of them are fucking scum.
Best i can tell BJ "Tried" !

[Fontas Returns]

so he admitted to selling coins on bittrex? though its obvious it was him seeing as other employees stated only paul had access to keys. thats if they were telling the truth. whats your opinion on paul? full gox and shady now or...? im curious

I go back and forth about what I think. I usually try to find the good in people but when I saw what was going on at trex it just cut me to the core and I had to try to stop it.

I think Vern has been conning you and possibly the others. We appreciate the show of good faith I think I can speak for most of those concerned here. Liu Xiuxia if you are reading this Vern has been conning everyone. Please you've got to make sure he gives up all the coins, we know about the main stash we know it was an inside Job, the forensics are only going to get more detailed and in depth and it will be figured out. The FBI is probably on the phone with bittrex right now. I'm afraid she is probably a victim of Paul's con job as well but now he has implicated her as an accomplice of the embezzlement scheme in funding bitebe and she was probably so caught up in his fairy tale and the manipulations of the military intelligence trained technological genius's elaborate deceptions and she probably might not know the full breadth of the scheme. 

[Spoetnik]

By the way i always figured DCGirl's involvement was with Crytpsy since day ONE !
Their attempt to MOD her was a stunt..

I never had proof but i would bet left nut on it in a heart beat !

Tell me this guys..
why would a nobody occasional random coin trader named DCGirl (who used other names for years before that)
Be able to simply call up Vern and grill him on the most intense and serious matters ?
You would think a nobody chat box moderator would be ignored.
She was not ignored because she is far more involved than she lets on.
and has been for YEARS.

Rule no 1 of any chat box.. make names and play games.
She had been there since day one and used a bunch of other Chat box names.
I know it's her and had many run in's with her..
And why do people change names ?
They do when they ruined the last one they used and it has become "stained"

I have been watching and keeping tabs on all these fuckers from day one
and ALL of them use a SHIT LOAD of names !

All of them have been lurking around playing dumb and playing games galore.
then have the fucking nerve to come here and play dumb & innocent... AGAIN.

Don't fail for it people.

[GoldSeal]

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.

You "believe" huh?

[dcgirl]

By the way i always figured DCGirl's involvement was with Crytpsy since day ONE !
Their attempt to MOD her was a stunt..

I never had proof but i would bet left nut on it in a heart beat !

Tell me this guys..
why would a nobody occasional random coin trader named DCGirl (who used other names for years before that)
Be able to simply call up Vern and grill him on the most intense and serious matters ?
You would think a nobody chat box moderator would be ignored.
She was not ignored because she is far more involved than she lets on.
and has been for YEARS.

Rule no 1 of any chat box.. make names and play games.
She had been there since day one and used a bunch of other Chat box names.
I know it's here and had many run in's with her..
And why do people change names ?
They do when they ruined the last one they used and it has become "stained"

I have been watching and keeping tabs on all these fuckers from day one
and ALL of them use a SHIT LOAD of names !

All of them have been lurking around playing dumb and playing games galore.
then have the fucking nerve to come here and play dumb & innocent... AGAIN.

Don't fail for it people.

Hey - its been a while for sure. I really dont care what you say about me. I'm not about to defend myself. When records at Cryptsy are examined they will show when people were made mods,  when they were hired,  when they started drawing a salary and when that stopped. It will show who did what, who knew what and when they knew what they knew. Rest assured your little staff analysis has some flaws but they'll figure it all out.  When they take my computer they will see who I communicated with and when.

And they will see what I said last night about what happened at trex.