CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[fakecryptsynagger]

Bittrex having unknown problems .. If your open order with you given price but order completed with another price point not your given price order

Has same things going though sell order too
If your doge coin selling in 51 per
( dogecoin order  sold in per  50 . lol ),that the epic joke going on bittrex now

-_-

[o0o0]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-11/australian-bitcoin-exchange-igot-on-verge-of-collapse/7315894

Perth millionaire Zhenya Tsvetnenko's company Digital CC is owed $180,000. Digital CC is taking action in the WA Supreme Court to windup 13th Pty Ltd — the business entity of Igot.

So funny! Search this thread for Zhenya Tsvetnenko.

Thats that australian scammer guy that was digital mintsy that ripped cryptsy off isn't it? Well on the bright side they were more honest than garza haha the email dumps show garza trying to be big verns mining operation and swap equity in each others company.

What makes you still believe Cryptsy was ripped off. Dig here.

Sorry let me rephrase... that is the mob that cryptsy said ripped their customers off. From what i remember at the time that Zhenya Tsvetnenko had some shoddy deals in the past from what articles linked back at the time. I think they are both crooks. The digital mintsy was their site wasn't it and users bought contracts on it... i think cryptsy handled the pass through payments or was it the funds from mining straight to your account i can't remember.

[o0o0]

Cryptsy ‏@cryptsy  27m27 minutes ago
Internet & wallet server physical location has been given to the receivership representative.  Bittrex held funds information was also given

https://twitter.com/cryptsy?lang=en

my my my... so vern just admitted that he was sending stuff to bittrex since he's handed that information over now. What a fuckin crook. Does he have any shame? Why would he be sending cryptsy customer funds to bittrex when his own exchange is shut down. He just keeps digging that hole doesn't he.... would love to know his reasoning for this.

EDIT
Hey he removed the picture of himself on it too... a bit of clean up hey to distance himself from his fuckups?

[o0o0]

One good thing on all this exchange funnelling is that exchanges will be on high alert atm. KYC restrictions will limit what he can pull out per day. Im sure bittrex and poloniex are watching for new accounts depositing in big balances, or even smaller ones. Paul will only be pulling out small amounts per day if he even can.

Them KYC restrictions you speaketh of sure the hell worked in Cryptsy's case unless the over-amount was due to an inside hack, then no reporting is required according to the Law of Vernon.

Pretty much paul approved his own 350BTC withdrawal because he's such an honest stand up guy. Wonder if he reported that suspicious withdrawal of his to the authorities?

I've been checking out some other coins. I think Pauls been bleeding them dry over the last few months. Cryptcracker wanker and the apology was just a disguise whilst he slowly filtered it out for sales. I think this is how he's been living after divorce settlements.

Ages ago on cryptsy chat i was trying to find owners of top 10 netcoin wallets and i asked Mullick. He told me that cryptsy's cold wallet address was
n5nZXRojBHjtyE78r8jkemNJbjs1xxMALc which is funny because mullick didn't have access to the wallets directly right? not sure how he knew that. Anyways it rang true because i could see that address link up to withdrawals i did. Now Bao shut his shit down around what mid jan?

Netcoin cold wallet has been bled dry over time... its small amounts here and there and sometimes a larger 1-2 million hit by the looks when prices were more favorable to him. Check it out on the explorer

http://netexplorer.coin-server.com/address/n5nZXRojBHjtyE78r8jkemNJbjs1xxMALc

He stakes here and there as per was the normal cryptsy method though they denied they staked customer coins and if it happened it was an accident when syncing the cold wallet funds to transfer... my fookin arse in a bunch of stake coins you can send without staking... the option is unlock for staking only... when you hit send it prompts for encrypted password and sends im pretty sure it doesn't stake then send.

Anyways the bleeding starts around 2 months after that start point and finishes on 23rd march. I don't know of bittrex cold wallets / hot wallets so can't match the addresses filtered off but im assuming they are either
a) bittrex or
b) Bao is slowly trying to mimmick normal sends and filtering to other wallets in his control that receivers don't have. If this is the case Paul might be banking on the fact that he'll get away with any investigation then pick the wallets up later in his control after its all blown over. I think this might be a case.

Might be worth checking other wallets for coins people have on explorers and see how they progress but i'm willing to bet that asshole opened wallets up that didn't have much value in them to withdraw and he kept closed the ones he was off to steal. Too many coins to keep them all so he prolly decided to take 20-30 wallets of good coins for later.

I want to check DGB next because that 200 million on bittrex is mighty suspicious. Especially when the second biggest holder on there is 13 million!!!

Here are mine findings for NET:


After 19.Nov.2015 there was no txs from Cryptsy NET cold wallet until 26.Jan:


On 26th.January.2016 NET cold wallet address on Cryptst was n9zYjyGxhxmBBGQQpK2VLWZY6kg9uHtZX5

There were 25,539408 millions Net coins in Cryptsy cold wallet on that date.


Then on 26th.January 10 millions of NET were transfered to Cryptsy NET hot wallet - nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W



On 28th.January.2016 NET cold wallet address on Cryptst was nJtwPDxBzuE8uWji6HMWR4fiVK1n8mKpog (change sfter every txs) with 15.539 millions of NET in it.


That 28th.Januar.2016 another 1 million of NET coins were transfered to hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W



On 30th.January 10 millions of NET coins from cold wallet(nQZCsusjpqyFK14T58EjQ9QucvBf35J37w) were transfered to hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W


In second txs on 30th.Janauary,all remaining NET from cold wallet(n5zKU5VQS27QChZvVPd5PvNbk62HgCk5NT), 4.539 millions of NET were transfered to hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W.

So,on 30.th.January.2016 NET cold wallet ceased to exist - all NET coins were in hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W


There were a lot of withdrawals form hot wallet from 25.January - 4-5th.March,when NET wallet were opened for withdrawals.



I can confirm,that is 7.517 millions of NET still at Cryptsy on address nRUSQpaUoDJyDCntT8mK8L5k9SorEWURdS


After all I found one suspicious tx - 2553f41b6eba9a086ab160ac39e664b34df15c91ac4e9bef137abee9927927f6   from Cryptsy hot wallet on 30th.January when 2.085 millions of Netcoins were sent to address nEgHgjhaQxuRQ4Dzn28sUuWwTCLnLpPmzr.That address is very odd,because after that big input,it has every day few small inputs of ~ 600 Net and all transactions to this address are deposits,not at one withdrawal.

Thanks i'll try and get you a cold wallet digibyte one. I was looking through my transactions of digibyte but that was like a year ago so it might be a stretch :/.

Do we know that when wallets were open for withdrawals that vern didn't use this excuse to mimmick sends to customers to his own addresses? I just can't believe he only did it with UNO.

[thunderjet]

One good thing on all this exchange funnelling is that exchanges will be on high alert atm. KYC restrictions will limit what he can pull out per day. Im sure bittrex and poloniex are watching for new accounts depositing in big balances, or even smaller ones. Paul will only be pulling out small amounts per day if he even can.

Them KYC restrictions you speaketh of sure the hell worked in Cryptsy's case unless the over-amount was due to an inside hack, then no reporting is required according to the Law of Vernon.

Pretty much paul approved his own 350BTC withdrawal because he's such an honest stand up guy. Wonder if he reported that suspicious withdrawal of his to the authorities?

I've been checking out some other coins. I think Pauls been bleeding them dry over the last few months. Cryptcracker wanker and the apology was just a disguise whilst he slowly filtered it out for sales. I think this is how he's been living after divorce settlements.

Ages ago on cryptsy chat i was trying to find owners of top 10 netcoin wallets and i asked Mullick. He told me that cryptsy's cold wallet address was
n5nZXRojBHjtyE78r8jkemNJbjs1xxMALc which is funny because mullick didn't have access to the wallets directly right? not sure how he knew that. Anyways it rang true because i could see that address link up to withdrawals i did. Now Bao shut his shit down around what mid jan?

Netcoin cold wallet has been bled dry over time... its small amounts here and there and sometimes a larger 1-2 million hit by the looks when prices were more favorable to him. Check it out on the explorer

http://netexplorer.coin-server.com/address/n5nZXRojBHjtyE78r8jkemNJbjs1xxMALc

He stakes here and there as per was the normal cryptsy method though they denied they staked customer coins and if it happened it was an accident when syncing the cold wallet funds to transfer... my fookin arse in a bunch of stake coins you can send without staking... the option is unlock for staking only... when you hit send it prompts for encrypted password and sends im pretty sure it doesn't stake then send.

Anyways the bleeding starts around 2 months after that start point and finishes on 23rd march. I don't know of bittrex cold wallets / hot wallets so can't match the addresses filtered off but im assuming they are either
a) bittrex or
b) Bao is slowly trying to mimmick normal sends and filtering to other wallets in his control that receivers don't have. If this is the case Paul might be banking on the fact that he'll get away with any investigation then pick the wallets up later in his control after its all blown over. I think this might be a case.

Might be worth checking other wallets for coins people have on explorers and see how they progress but i'm willing to bet that asshole opened wallets up that didn't have much value in them to withdraw and he kept closed the ones he was off to steal. Too many coins to keep them all so he prolly decided to take 20-30 wallets of good coins for later.

I want to check DGB next because that 200 million on bittrex is mighty suspicious. Especially when the second biggest holder on there is 13 million!!!

Here are mine findings for NET:


After 19.Nov.2015 there was no txs from Cryptsy NET cold wallet until 26.Jan:


On 26th.January.2016 NET cold wallet address on Cryptst was n9zYjyGxhxmBBGQQpK2VLWZY6kg9uHtZX5

There were 25,539408 millions Net coins in Cryptsy cold wallet on that date.


Then on 26th.January 10 millions of NET were transfered to Cryptsy NET hot wallet - nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W



On 28th.January.2016 NET cold wallet address on Cryptst was nJtwPDxBzuE8uWji6HMWR4fiVK1n8mKpog (change sfter every txs) with 15.539 millions of NET in it.


That 28th.Januar.2016 another 1 million of NET coins were transfered to hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W



On 30th.January 10 millions of NET coins from cold wallet(nQZCsusjpqyFK14T58EjQ9QucvBf35J37w) were transfered to hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W


In second txs on 30th.Janauary,all remaining NET from cold wallet(n5zKU5VQS27QChZvVPd5PvNbk62HgCk5NT), 4.539 millions of NET were transfered to hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W.

So,on 30.th.January.2016 NET cold wallet ceased to exist - all NET coins were in hot wallet nCnLUa14D12VqM9kTDMaswF6ydK4rvEk2W


There were a lot of withdrawals form hot wallet from 25.January - 4-5th.March,when NET wallet were opened for withdrawals.



I can confirm,that is 7.517 millions of NET still at Cryptsy on address nRUSQpaUoDJyDCntT8mK8L5k9SorEWURdS


After all I found one suspicious tx - 2553f41b6eba9a086ab160ac39e664b34df15c91ac4e9bef137abee9927927f6   from Cryptsy hot wallet on 30th.January when 2.085 millions of Netcoins were sent to address nEgHgjhaQxuRQ4Dzn28sUuWwTCLnLpPmzr.That address is very odd,because after that big input,it has every day few small inputs of ~ 600 Net and all transactions to this address are deposits,not at one withdrawal.

Thanks i'll try and get you a cold wallet digibyte one. I was looking through my transactions of digibyte but that was like a year ago so it might be a stretch :/.

Do we know that when wallets were open for withdrawals that vern didn't use this excuse to mimmick sends to customers to his own addresses? I just can't believe he only did it with UNO.

Only ones which took receivership can find that in wallets logs.I guess was this BTC address on Bittrex are among "Crypsy funds" on Bittrex:

After a long work I finally found irrefutable evidences about Paul Vernon aka Bao Luo direct connection with "grand hack".Following traces of BTC from Cryptsy old wallet (which was under Vernon sole control and used for paying Cryptsy expenses and from which users could not get BTC directly) I found that after a hack he sent 368.7 BTC to Bittrex address 1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9 directly from old Cryptsy wallet.

How much his greed is big,can be seen from fact that he sent last BTCs from old Cryptsy wallet to that address on Bittrex on 3rd.March.2016 !!! On 3rd.March.2016 he took last 1.1 BTC from Cryptsy old wallet(direct transactions):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9









But that is not full story.This Bittrex address 1G1QMXNCsyVAMiuXxHkzs3FrX3QGiXfUg9  also received 168 BTC from BTER and few dozen BTCs from Mintpal.Following DASH transactions after hack,some members of this forum,found many 5000 DASH transactions from Cryptsy wallet to Mintpal day after day,just few days from hack.Well now we know that was Vernon who sent them on Mintpal,sold for BTC and move some of that BTC to this Bittrex BTC address described above.After fall of Mintpal,BTER is coming into the game - selling was continuing on it.Few members of Cryptsy,including myself during December 2015 received few withdrawals from Cryptsy that were not coming from Cryptsy wallet ,but BTER.It seems that Vernon wanted to prolonge Cryptsy fall a little later,because Bitebi9 project was not finished then.


Now the most interesting part.This address on Bittrex was active in late 2014 and May 2015 (few last txs came from Cryptsy long after Cryptsy fall),when hacker was selling stolen altcoins on Bittrex and other exchanges.Mainly he withdraw BTCs to Bitfinex,but one big withdraw(20 BTCs) was directly moved to BTC wallet (address 1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf) where hacker stored all BTC obtained from selling stolen altcoins on different exchanges - that is direct link with theft .


So:

- on this Bittrex address BTC were coming from Cryptsy old wallet almost until court seized it

- from autumn 2014 until July 2015 - 368.7 BTC came directly from old Cryptsy wallet which was untouchable for users

- finally, 20 BTC were sent from this Bittrex account directly to BTC wallet where hacker stored BTCs obtained from selling stolen altcoins


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d39a289e6a271c9380165090de989aab93f26d834ac27101e38fb5b041b6ec6b


BTC wallet where hacker stored BTCs from selling altcoins:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337



This is link where you can see mine earlier findings about BTC wallet where hacker stored BTC from selling altcoins :


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13678567#msg13678567

[Spoetnik]

Receivers ?  

I told you so FUD crying Cryptsy-Defending assholes... LONG ago !

I recall 3 of us being bad mouthed early on across the web + threatened with lawsuits. (by Horus & JShock)

So uhh where did Mullick Go ? Anyone ever find out why he vanished waaaaay early on?

Marshall is a scheming weazle ..i can smell his ass from here.
Vern + Shockney are the same breed of scammy ass weazle.

Our Canadian PI still hiding ? LOL

PS:
@Gold Seal
I am now ready to sell you my Cryptsy BTC ..your offer still stands i assume right?
In case people forgot he was preying on people for profits with his GOX "Bitcoinbuilder" style Cryptsy-Scheme.
Make a lot of money by little predator buddy ?

How about the rest of you arb'ing coins on Cryptsy until they closed the doors (as you defend them)

As a matter of fact where are the 90% of all crypto users who aggressively defended them?

Hey MIKE PARK got something to say now?

HIDE little boy.. h i d e .

Balls bitches.. BALLS !

Who got 'em ?
Ain't Marshall or Vern or Horus or Jim Shockney or Mullick (Nick Mullesch)
Nope..
All a pile of big mouth cowards who loiter around hiding scheming like rats darting in the shadows.

Feel the full wrath of the public and authorities assholes.. you deserve it !  

[Gleb Gamow]

Cryptsy ‏@cryptsy  27m27 minutes ago
Internet & wallet server physical location has been given to the receivership representative.  Bittrex held funds information was also given

https://twitter.com/cryptsy?lang=en

Cryptsy ‏@cryptsy  2h    2 hours ago

Internet & wallet server physical location has been given to the receivership representative.  Bittrex held funds information was also given

So, was Cryptsy's Twitter account (an asset) also handed over to the receiver? And if not, why not? And if so, why is the office working at ~1 AM CST (2 AM Florida time) to tweet?

<no apologies for the double post (just posted same in the other Cryptsy thread)>

[addergebroed]

Cryptsy.com down

[AngryDwarf]

So the receiver has the wallets. What about the keys?

[Gleb Gamow]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-11/australian-bitcoin-exchange-igot-on-verge-of-collapse/7315894

Perth millionaire Zhenya Tsvetnenko's company Digital CC is owed $180,000. Digital CC is taking action in the WA Supreme Court to windup 13th Pty Ltd — the business entity of Igot.

So funny! Search this thread for Zhenya Tsvetnenko.

Thats that australian scammer guy that was digital mintsy that ripped cryptsy off isn't it? Well on the bright side they were more honest than garza haha the email dumps show garza trying to be big verns mining operation and swap equity in each others company.

What makes you still believe Cryptsy was ripped off. Dig here.

Sorry let me rephrase... that is the mob that cryptsy said ripped their customers off. From what i remember at the time that Zhenya Tsvetnenko had some shoddy deals in the past from what articles linked back at the time. I think they are both crooks. The digital mintsy was their site wasn't it and users bought contracts on it... i think cryptsy handled the pass through payments or was it the funds from mining straight to your account i can't remember.

Christians pray together
Construction workers drink together.
Crypto crooks cup one another's balls together.

John MacPherson aka Horus: Paul, distance yourself from Marshall Long.
Paul Vernon: Overruled, Horus.
Marshall Long: Hey, let's all three of us form a corp in Canada, eh?
Horus: Sounds great. Use my address.
Paul Vernon: Don't forget who paid for your address, John.
Marshall Long: Is that why I work for Cryptsy for free while charging U$150/hr for my consultant service to others.
Peter Todd: Is that why I wake up at Marshall's pad with the feeling my balls were cupped?
Horus: Your name's Peter, right?
<all in unison>: HeHEheeeHEEhheehhe

[Spoetnik]

So the receiver has the wallets. What about the keys?

Ask this guy..

[cryptocoinex]

I don`t want to say "We warned about this on 11.12.2014" but we did ...

http://cryptocoinex.org/news.php?readmore=9

[bitcoinpete]

website for cryptsy is down?

[addergebroed]

website for cryptsy is down?

Just curious, do you read this reply? Because it looks like you are just opening this topic, typing a reply and hitting the post button. If you don't read replies, why are you asking for replies?

[Gleb Gamow]

[indiemax]

So the receiver has the wallets. What about the keys?

Ask this guy..

Jeez, something not right about him,he should be arrested for looking like that

[romeshomey]

I had some faith or at least wanted to believe that Cryptsy would eventually find a resolution to return at least a majority of peoples funds.

Now that its in the hands of a court appointed lawyer / accountant.  I have lost all faith and no longer believe.

lol

[Fontas Returns]

Just sent this off to bittrex and the receiver's email:

Fontas Returns <fontasreturns@gmail.com>
11:33 AM (0 minutes ago)

to support, media, jds
Hi, I am writing to inform you of some concerning facts that have come to light following the situation with the Cryptsy theft. As you know someone, most likely Paul Vernon, recently got caught putting Cryptsy coins on Bittrex in a suspicious transaction. However, a bitcointalk.org user who calls himself "thunderjet" has done a forensic audit on the "critical event" and has found that the forensics show this recent suspicious transaction with the UNO wallet is part of an ongoing pattern of suspicious transactions that appear to be an embezzlement scheme of Paul Vernon or other culprit who stole coins off Cryptsy in 2014. It appears from forensic audit this pattern of suspicious Bittrex transactions relating to the apparent embezzlement go back at least as far as 2014-10-14.

The Cryptsy thief is believed to control this btc wallet, and the coins in it are believed to be the main stash of laundered proceeds from the embezzlement of the alt coins which appear to have been sold on bittrex and other exchanges:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

wallet addresses of main stash :

1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332 50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074 19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775 22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786 34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805 22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147 12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239 19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806 8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867 4   393904

The specific bittrex transactions relating to this theft can be found at this link:
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337?page=2

According to the findings of thunderjet, (which appear to be the best forensic accounting of the Cryptsy hack now known publicly) indicate that a big chunk of the stolen alts were laundered through bittrex in 2015 perhaps going back into 2014 and whoever controls the bittrex account(s) associated with these transactions is probably the Cryptsy thief(most likely Paul Vernon).

Sincerely, a concerned crypto community member

[silvermetal]

Look buddy, I don't know who you think you are but it is quite obvious that you know nothing about me..

I could hardly be attributed as being part of the UNO community and frankly I don't know WTF you are talking about.. You missed by 100 miles..

I am not your buddy!

however I missed 100 miles, it was close enough for you to shoot back  

What exactly is your angle here friend?

I am also not your friend.

My angle? you mean my point of view about this whole cryptsy collapse? I am not sure...

By all means it exposes how an exchange laundry machine, developers copy cloners and advertising people scammers cooperated with each other.
That if they work closely together they "earn steal" a lot of money from the investors naive people.

But what if one of the group (read cryptsy) becomes very greedy and steals from the copy cloners/scammers...what is then good justice? Give the money back to the cloners and scammers? nah..back to the investors? how will you do that, you can't distinguish between a scammer and an investor just looking at a wallet...

My coins may be given to a charity if they will ever be recovered. But my charity is not Paul Vernon and also not the UNO "community" (consisting of handful people with multiple accounts posting in a moderated thread)

Coins should be given back to whoever can rove their balances at Cryptsy.. Simple..

Are you advocating that the coins not be given back to the owners because they are UNO "community" members? What exactly have they done so wrong?

Any why choose ME for your attack bro?

Thank god you are not family of me either.

Where did I attack you? You feel attacked by me because I described how your beloved "community" and "developer" behaves? Maybe you should ask your community to open a new thread and discuss this...or do we get a new interesting discussion of one person with multiple accounts?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854092.msg9501822#msg9501822
(one person with multiple accounts is posting in one single thread, and also noticed by another scammer):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854092.msg9503664#msg9503664

Above is just an example how your "community" fools/misleads/scams people by posting with multiple accounts.

Anyway this thread is not about your coin, but cryptsy.
And yes you understood me correct.

But for you personally you don't need to bother so much I guess...you gained 14000% with cryptsy....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13019041#msg13019041

[Fontas Returns]

He has broken up a lot of it into little chunks but it looks like his looting activity has mostly stopped since he was ordered to stop. This might mean he's desparate for funds since he really hasn't spent the "dirty" "hacked" coins. Maybe he has more money than we even think but he should be feeling a cash crunch right about now. Let's keep a close eye on all those coins to see if he pulls a desperation move soon. Remember Paul has been holding massive reserves of POS coins so his hyperstake holdings etc might be big but who knows.

Vern, if you're reading this then you have to realize you aren't getting away with it. The best move is to send all the embezzled coins to the receiver and walk away. Have Eternal Insolent or whoever your accomplice is put the coins back and just announce that the hacker(s) got desparate and returned the coins which would be the truth. The lawsuit will be dropped and your chance of going to jail will be minimized. You made a big mistake and now you're desperate. There's still a chance for you to do the right thing here and give up on the embezzlement scheme. Ryan Kennedy and Mark Karpeles both tried essentially the same scheme you are now trying to pull. You don't have to wind up like them.

I figured Paul might try a desperation move. I tried to talk him out of it. Paul, you messed up big time sending those coins to bittrex. I think if you had just returned the coins instead you could have saved yourself from jail. Now I am afraid you have fucked it up. Your best move however is still to simply return the coins anonymously. You're not getting away with this scheme. After you get out of jail you will not be able to spend the coins. This scheme will not work. We are onto you. Remember that period of time when Mark Karpeles was sweating it out before he got arrested? That's where you are at right now. You still have a chance to do the right thing although at this point I'm afraid you are most likely going to be arrested and convicted and sent to jail. You can still mitigate your situation however by returning coins. These white collar crimes I think they sentence based on the amount stolen so by returning the coins I think you can at least not turn out like madoff doing life. Think about it. Do what's right here, man.