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[BALIK]

Federer's last game turned out to be really emotional - and it was also great to see him pairing with Nadal to close off his career teamed up with his biggest opponent.
The tennis was good as well - I honestly thought that, considering that it was in an exhibition tournament, Tiafoe and Sock would let them have it.
Still - I understand them as well - for the rest of their lives they'll get to say that they beat Federer and Nadal
Eventually it doesn't really matter who won though.
Farewell Roger, you will be missed.

It was very nice to see two tennis greats, Federer and Nadal, playing together. An unforgettable experience.
Federer and Nadal were great rivals but also close friends.
The two really played a lot of great and memorable matches, and it's really a shame that one had to say goodbye to tennis, and probably the other won't be playing for a long time either.
The era of tennis romance is over, it's time for some new, young tennis champions.
How much longer can Djokovic and Nadal manage to play and win GS tournaments?

It is inevitable that all the greats will eventually have to retire one day. That is just how it works. There is no doubt that the greats are going to be replaced by the young blood who are ultimately going to change the game in the future. However, it is very sad to know that one of the greatest players of this game is not going to be able to play any longer. I also believe that after a brief period of time Nadal is also going to retire. Despite the fact that this is sad for me, I am also glad to see that a lot of young players are beginning to come forward as a result of this. They are going to carry on and be the future of tennis.

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[onecall123]

Federer's last game turned out to be really emotional - and it was also great to see him pairing with Nadal to close off his career teamed up with his biggest opponent.
The tennis was good as well - I honestly thought that, considering that it was in an exhibition tournament, Tiafoe and Sock would let them have it.
Still - I understand them as well - for the rest of their lives they'll get to say that they beat Federer and Nadal
Eventually it doesn't really matter who won though.
Farewell Roger, you will be missed.

It was very nice to see two tennis greats, Federer and Nadal, playing together. An unforgettable experience.
Federer and Nadal were great rivals but also close friends.
The two really played a lot of great and memorable matches, and it's really a shame that one had to say goodbye to tennis, and probably the other won't be playing for a long time either.
The era of tennis romance is over, it's time for some new, young tennis champions.
How much longer can Djokovic and Nadal manage to play and win GS tournaments?

It is inevitable that all the greats will eventually have to retire one day. That is just how it works. There is no doubt that the greats are going to be replaced by the young blood who are ultimately going to change the game in the future. However, it is very sad to know that one of the greatest players of this game is not going to be able to play any longer. I also believe that after a brief period of time Nadal is also going to retire. Despite the fact that this is sad for me, I am also glad to see that a lot of young players are beginning to come forward as a result of this. They are going to carry on and be the future of tennis.

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal both broke down in tears at the end of the match. It's so sad to see one of our favorite athletes quit. It happens all the time.
Throughout my childhood, I aspired to see Roger Federer defeat Rafael Nadal in countless matches. For the first time in his professional career, he faced Rafa in a doubles match, and it's fitting that he ended his career with Rafa. All the fans around the world were moved by the match, but he was obviously moved even more by it. In spite of the heartbreak of this goodbye, Rafa and Roger created a rivalry unlike any other.

[cryptofrka]

Federer had an elegance with how he played and Alcaraz dosent have that. Alcaraz has a gamestyle like Nadal and is similar to him. New stars are here and i dont know for how long Djokovic and Nadal wi be playing. Nadal always has injuries now so i think he will be the next to retire.

In Alcaraz's case, I feel it's way too early to make arguments like these. Nadal was only a topspin player in his early days but later on managed to heavily expand his offensive arsenal - and because of the way he started he actually didn't receive enough credit for it.
Alcaraz is still 19 years old, he's got all the time in the world to hone his skills. He has the talent to be one of the greats - and he will almost certainly be an exciting and elegant player to watch.

We can't really expect there's a new Federer around the corner, because the elegance with which he played is unparalleled in the world of tennis. Alcaraz might be the closest we get in the years to come.

[shogun47]

And as the saying goes, if one door closes, another one open, so this is a good opportunity for the young and up coming to really show their talent because Federer has retired already.

We have discussed their names already, and then this year, we have another one in Alcaraz. So we will see who is brave enough to somewhat become the next or even surpassed Roger's achievement.

Federer had an elegance with how he played and Alcaraz dosent have that. Alcaraz has a gamestyle like Nadal and is similar to him. New stars are here and i dont know for how long Djokovic and Nadal wi be playing. Nadal always has injuries now so i think he will be the next to retire.

I thought the same when I saw Nadal crying after Federer's finale game. It seemed as if the situation was something he already feels himself to be very close to. I would say that could be one explanation for him crying.

Regarding Alcaraz and his game style, that's very true and it is almost the same as Nadal. It is all about power while Federer indeed made tennis look like an elegant sport. I think there isn't really a player right now who comes close to Federer's style. It's also his light movements that made it look easy and not so powerful. It was more about precision and strategy.

I think that was the fun part about the big three guys. Everyone had his own style.

Unfortunately I couldnt get to watch that match, I can just get the interviews and 3 minutes
of highlights. I would have loved to watch Federer and Nadal pairing up for the last time.

It was amazing to see the close bond between the two guys, holding hands and the emotions
shared by them both. I thought too that maybe Nadal sees his career ending closer on the horizon.

Not every top sports person gets to retire on their terms but it was great that Roger got to play
a final match competitively with a close friend and top rival.

The sport doesnt end there though, the younger generation are already making their
mark, particularly Alcaraz.

Yes and Federer confirmed my former post where I said that I believe he intentionally chose the Laver Cup because it is the perfect stage to get the spotlight he deserves without taking away attention from other important events at a tournament like a final and also ATP points.

Regarding Alcaraz, I definitely do agree and I believe that he is the only player right now who might be able to go a similar way as the big three. He seems to also be different from Zverev or Tsitsipas or Medvedev, all of which have their frequent lows in their performance. Alcaraz seems to be carrying the inner fire to keep up his game for a long period of time and not just a couple of tournaments per year. He has this comeback mentality and amazing strength to make it very far.

I am absolutely looking forward to seeing him play a couple of matches against Nadal and Djokovic, hopefully some huge finals. But as soon as the last two GOATs are gone I don't see anyone (yet) to outrank Alcaraz in the medium to long term.

[aoluain]

Metz tournament final will be played today and the two finalists are bublik and sonego it was not expected but we have seen a godd performance from these players so its totally deserved but sonego was the one to stand out the most he run through his opponents easily i think he is the favourite and will win but not easily i think the score will be 2 1 for sonego.

I lost track of the Metz competition. Final today was won by Sonego in 2 sets, 7-6, 6-2.
It looks like it was battle royal in the first set and then Sonego had an easy run in
the second. Nice win for him but they were unexpected finalists really, considering
some of the quality opposition like Medvedev, Korda and Hurkacz.

[BitcoinAccepted]

There are a number of potential number 1 players in the world. Alcaraz is the best candidate, but Jack Sinner and Casper Ruud are also close. Frankly, it was also time for the era of Djokovic and Nadal to be dethroned. It is actually unimaginable how long they have been in service with Federer. The last time such a thing happened was with the Americans Pete Sampras And Andre Agassi. There was also a lot of competition back then. If I could point to the new number 1 in the world for the future, it would be the current number 1, Alcaraz. And so young too. Maybe Nadal wants to coach Alcaraz.

[Rabi3]

Metz tournament final will be played today and the two finalists are bublik and sonego it was not expected but we have seen a godd performance from these players so its totally deserved but sonego was the one to stand out the most he run through his opponents easily i think he is the favourite and will win but not easily i think the score will be 2 1 for sonego.

you were right about Sonego winning but I wasn't not a three setter, Bublik put up a fight in the first set but he gave up in the second set, Sonego didn't give a lot of chances and started pushing early in the set which definitely destroyed the fighting spirit and hope I Bublik.

[babygun]

Yes and Federer confirmed my former post where I said that I believe he intentionally chose the Laver Cup because it is the perfect stage to get the spotlight he deserves without taking away attention from other important events at a tournament like a final and also ATP points.

Regarding Alcaraz, I definitely do agree and I believe that he is the only player right now who might be able to go a similar way as the big three. He seems to also be different from Zverev or Tsitsipas or Medvedev, all of which have their frequent lows in their performance. Alcaraz seems to be carrying the inner fire to keep up his game for a long period of time and not just a couple of tournaments per year. He has this comeback mentality and amazing strength to make it very far.

I am absolutely looking forward to seeing him play a couple of matches against Nadal and Djokovic, hopefully some huge finals. But as soon as the last two GOATs are gone I don't see anyone (yet) to outrank Alcaraz in the medium to long term.

Lets not put to much pressure also on Alcaraz, he is only 19 years old. Also Alcaraz will have a low in his performance, that is something that is inevitable. I am sure that Alcaraz will one some more grand slams, but I doubt that he will be able to reach double figures; there is nowadays too much competition and a lot of young talents also want to claim their spot at the top.

[Smack That Ace]

Federer had an elegance with how he played and Alcaraz dosent have that. Alcaraz has a gamestyle like Nadal and is similar to him. New stars are here and i dont know for how long Djokovic and Nadal wi be playing. Nadal always has injuries now so i think he will be the next to retire.

In Alcaraz's case, I feel it's way too early to make arguments like these. Nadal was only a topspin player in his early days but later on managed to heavily expand his offensive arsenal - and because of the way he started he actually didn't receive enough credit for it.
Alcaraz is still 19 years old, he's got all the time in the world to hone his skills. He has the talent to be one of the greats - and he will almost certainly be an exciting and elegant player to watch.

We can't really expect there's a new Federer around the corner, because the elegance with which he played is unparalleled in the world of tennis. Alcaraz might be the closest we get in the years to come.

There is also a good chance that Rafael Nadal will be the next player to retire after Roger Federer.

Joca97, I also agree with you that Alcaraz's style does not have the elegance that Roger Federer's had in his style.
Nevertheless, it's still early days for him and I don't think we should be too harsh on him at this point since it is still early days.
As a matter of fact, he's only 19 years old and has a lifetime of opportunities ahead of him. There is no doubt that he has a bright future ahead of him.

However, at the same time, I also feel that the void that has been left by the legends is not going to be filled in any way.


regards

duke

[Prince Malik]

And as the saying goes, if one door closes, another one open, so this is a good opportunity for the young and up coming to really show their talent because Federer has retired already.

We have discussed their names already, and then this year, we have another one in Alcaraz. So we will see who is brave enough to somewhat become the next or even surpassed Roger's achievement.

Federer had an elegance with how he played and Alcaraz dosent have that. Alcaraz has a gamestyle like Nadal and is similar to him. New stars are here and i dont know for how long Djokovic and Nadal wi be playing. Nadal always has injuries now so i think he will be the next to retire.

You are completely right about this. It was these players who made many people love tennis. We have enjoyed watching the rivalry between these players in recent years, everything they do off the court has attracted the attention of millions and they are names that are deeply admired.
The time when Nadal will also retire is pretty close.
Now a new generation is coming, we will get used to watching the stars here and we will talk about these names for the next 15 years

I also started watching tennis with the big three, and seeing one of them retire is heartbreaking, even Rafael couldn't hold his tears, they shared the spot light and had crazy matches against each other, Nadal also said "When Roger leaves the tour an important part of my life is leaving too" you don't see a lot of players crying for a rival retiring in other sports, but Tennis is special.

[Bananington]

Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal both broke down in tears at the end of the match. It's so sad to see one of our favorite athletes quit.

Frances Tiafoe had the honors playing end to end with Roger Federer's in his last career game. He didn't let him win, and in the spirit of sportsmanship had this to say.

"I want to see Roger Federer lit, but I will not apologize to him; absolutely not. He has to apologize for beating everyone on the Tour after 25 years! I thank him for having me in this fantastic event and for everything he has done for the game.

Roger is a class act. I'm happy to know Roger and call him a friend; I wish him all the best in his second act. The result of our match was irrelevant. The only thing that mattered was that I stood on the other side of the net.

Tennis won that night. Roger is such an inspiration, and playing with him was unbelievable. Roger is an even better person than a tennis player, and we will all miss him dearly. Legends never die,"

Read here

Its a valid statement that the outcome of federer game with him did not matter as it cannot write off the years of brilliance Roger has shown in the sport, he is legend and we will all miss him playing on the court professionally.

[Ratash]

San diego atp final was somehow disapointing for me i expected the game to be more competitive especially after giron great performance in the tournament and the way he handeled daniel evans was enough for me to consider him a threat but giron did not put up much resistance and nakashima  won easily 2 0, congrats to him am sure he will be a great player in the future.

[babygun]

I also started watching tennis with the big three, and seeing one of them retire is heartbreaking, even Rafael couldn't hold his tears, they shared the spot light and had crazy matches against each other, Nadal also said "When Roger leaves the tour an important part of my life is leaving too" you don't see a lot of players crying for a rival retiring in other sports, but Tennis is special.

In every sport you have great rivalries but the rivalry between Federer and Nadal (and Djokovic) was on another level. They made each other better and especially there is also a lot of respect between them. You can have a rivalry on the field but besides that you need to be able to put things aside also. There is always a life besides the sport.

[Naficopa]

I also started watching tennis with the big three, and seeing one of them retire is heartbreaking, even Rafael couldn't hold his tears, they shared the spot light and had crazy matches against each other, Nadal also said "When Roger leaves the tour an important part of my life is leaving too" you don't see a lot of players crying for a rival retiring in other sports, but Tennis is special.

In every sport you have great rivalries but the rivalry between Federer and Nadal (and Djokovic) was on another level. They made each other better and especially there is also a lot of respect between them. You can have a rivalry on the field but besides that you need to be able to put things aside also. There is always a life besides the sport.

What a beautiful end of a career  a wonderful sportsman
He has made a history - people loved him and he loved his profession -a very few people reach to such level of respect and love and profesionalism

[aoluain]

Federer had an elegance with how he played and Alcaraz dosent have that. Alcaraz has a gamestyle like Nadal and is similar to him. New stars are here and i dont know for how long Djokovic and Nadal wi be playing. Nadal always has injuries now so i think he will be the next to retire.

In Alcaraz's case, I feel it's way too early to make arguments like these. Nadal was only a topspin player in his early days but later on managed to heavily expand his offensive arsenal - and because of the way he started he actually didn't receive enough credit for it.
Alcaraz is still 19 years old, he's got all the time in the world to hone his skills. He has the talent to be one of the greats - and he will almost certainly be an exciting and elegant player to watch.

We can't really expect there's a new Federer around the corner, because the elegance with which he played is unparalleled in the world of tennis. Alcaraz might be the closest we get in the years to come.

There is also a good chance that Rafael Nadal will be the next player to retire after Roger Federer.

Joca97, I also agree with you that Alcaraz's style does not have the elegance that Roger Federer's had in his style.
Nevertheless, it's still early days for him and I don't think we should be too harsh on him at this point since it is still early days.
As a matter of fact, he's only 19 years old and has a lifetime of opportunities ahead of him. There is no doubt that he has a bright future ahead of him.

However, at the same time, I also feel that the void that has been left by the legends is not going to be filled in any way.


regards

duke

I would have thought that possibly Andy Murray would be retiring before Nadal. It just depends
on how injury free both can be. A serious injury at this stage in the career which results in
a year out can spell a closer step to retirement.

I would also say Alcaraz has more of a style like Nadal. Its also nice to have a different style.


On the Laver Cup its been a First Time win for Team World with a final score of 13 - 8.

[shogun47]

Yes and Federer confirmed my former post where I said that I believe he intentionally chose the Laver Cup because it is the perfect stage to get the spotlight he deserves without taking away attention from other important events at a tournament like a final and also ATP points.

Regarding Alcaraz, I definitely do agree and I believe that he is the only player right now who might be able to go a similar way as the big three. He seems to also be different from Zverev or Tsitsipas or Medvedev, all of which have their frequent lows in their performance. Alcaraz seems to be carrying the inner fire to keep up his game for a long period of time and not just a couple of tournaments per year. He has this comeback mentality and amazing strength to make it very far.

I am absolutely looking forward to seeing him play a couple of matches against Nadal and Djokovic, hopefully some huge finals. But as soon as the last two GOATs are gone I don't see anyone (yet) to outrank Alcaraz in the medium to long term.

Lets not put to much pressure also on Alcaraz, he is only 19 years old. Also Alcaraz will have a low in his performance, that is something that is inevitable. I am sure that Alcaraz will one some more grand slams, but I doubt that he will be able to reach double figures; there is nowadays too much competition and a lot of young talents also want to claim their spot at the top.

I doubt that anyone of us can put pressure on Alcaraz He is the type of player who knows how to push himself to the absolute maximum. It is all about injuries. If he can get away for a long time without any serious injuries, in my opinion he is going to be the player who will dominate the sport in the future most likely.

Of course there could be another player on the rise that we don't know yet. But looking at all the players who have high potential as of now, the one with the best prospects is Alcaraz. Yes he will lose games against players like Zverev, but in the long run I would say he is going to win more against those guys than he is going to lose.

[nullama]

Who do you think is the best number one of all time?

Pete Sampras, Jimmy Connors, Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, or Rafael Nadal? (maybe another one?)

Sampras still has the impressive record of being the number one player for 6 continuous years.

[Trofo]

Who do you think is the best number one of all time?

Pete Sampras, Jimmy Connors, Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, or Rafael Nadal? (maybe another one?)

Sampras still has the impressive record of being the number one player for 6 continuous years.

I wasn't so much into tennis in Sampras time so I don't really remeber any big rivalries for him other than Agassi and he had quite good H2H with him in the end.

Murray would have made so much more in any other time than this. I don't think tennis ever had something similar to level of performaces the big four produced before becoming the big three. Any one of them would have had it so much easier if competition wasn't that good. That is why it is so difficult to compere player from different eras.

[aoluain]

Who do you think is the best number one of all time?

Pete Sampras, Jimmy Connors, Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, or Rafael Nadal? (maybe another one?)

Sampras still has the impressive record of being the number one player for 6 continuous years.

How are we gauging the above answer to your question?

There are only three possible answers:

The player with the most overall titles - John McEnroe with 156 combined singles and doubles titles

The player with the most singles titles - Jimmy Connors with 109 overall singles titles.

The player with the most grand slams - Rafael Nadal with 22.

[bct_ail]

Who do you think is the best number one of all time?

Pete Sampras, Jimmy Connors, Andy Murray, Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, or Rafael Nadal? (maybe another one?)

Sampras still has the impressive record of being the number one player for 6 continuous years.

That is a question of definition. As aoluain already pointed out, it depends on what. The most titles, the most Grand Slams, the longest time at number 1 and so on. I find it difficult to give an answer to that. Every generation has its favourite player.

According to this list, Djokovic has been number 1 for the longest time.
https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/record?recordId=WeeksAtATPNo1
But it does not mean to me that he is my number one.

Boris Becker, for example, was number 1 for only 12 weeks, but he still left his mark on an entire generation. That is why he would be higher ranked in my personal list than, for example, Pete Sampras.