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December 21, 2015, 10:58:05 PM
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Please publish the code for genning addresses.  I'll update my functional C# version (not yet published.)

view-source:http://188.138.57.93/addressgenerator.html
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December 21, 2015, 11:19:41 PM
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The best-known tmto algorithm is 20 million times slower with 1 millionth' the memory.

Of course, even being just 200 times slower means you will rarely find a block
if the block interval is just 100 proof attempts long...

This is where we stopped the last time - I claimed that it's not a problem for a QC to do 20 million computations at once (25X qubits is enough to do a computation on 33 million sets of data).

It is a big misconception to think that QC are some magical device that can speedup arbitrary computation. Evidence suggests that they have limited speedup applicability
(all variations of Grover's unstructured search and Shor's group structured search).

I think I urged you to read Scott Aaronson's
"The Limits of Quantum Computers"
http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/limitsqc-draft.pdf
last time, to correct this misconception.


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December 21, 2015, 11:24:02 PM
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It is a big misconception to think that QC are some magical device that can speedup arbitrary computation. Evidence suggests that they have limited speedup applicability
(all variations of Grover's unstructured search and Shor's group structured search).

I think I urged you to read Scott Aaronson's
"The Limits of Quantum Computers"
http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/limitsqc-draft.pdf
last time, to correct this misconception.

Yes, and I quoted text that was proving my point.
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December 21, 2015, 11:32:30 PM
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It is a big misconception to think that QC are some magical device that can speedup arbitrary computation. Evidence suggests that they have limited speedup applicability
(all variations of Grover's unstructured search and Shor's group structured search).

I think I urged you to read Scott Aaronson's
"The Limits of Quantum Computers"
http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/limitsqc-draft.pdf
last time, to correct this misconception.

Yes, and I quoted text that was proving my point.

You didn't prove any point. You just vaguely alluded that since QC can do many computations in superposition, that it must somehow speedup Cuckoo Cycle finding.
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December 21, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
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You didn't prove any point. You just vaguely alluded that since QC can do many computations in superposition, that it must somehow speedup Cuckoo Cycle finding.

Is it what was written in that paper? That by increasing number of qubits 30-fold number of computations done within the same timeframe is increased 1'000'000'000-fold?
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December 22, 2015, 12:00:02 AM
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THE SALE IS OVER!

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December 22, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
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Google’s Quantum Dream Machine
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/544421/googles-quantum-dream-machine/

Google Says It Has Proved Its Controversial Quantum Computer Really Works
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/544276/google-says-it-has-proved-its-controversial-quantum-computer-really-works/

When can Quantum Annealing win?
http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2015/12/when-can-quantum-annealing-win.html

New Research Injects Optimism into Question of Quantum Computers
http://electronicdesign.com/microprocessors/new-research-injects-optimism-question-quantum-computers

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December 22, 2015, 01:27:52 AM
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When is the launch?
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December 22, 2015, 01:32:06 AM
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Yes, I made it more user-friendly, those who can't memorize 81 chars are allowed to use "qwerty" and the like.

Do you have a recommended minimum chars?
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December 22, 2015, 01:41:24 AM
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When is the launch?

Beta: soon. Waiting for reviews and nodes. Christmas now, so development will naturally be slightly lower than previous, then full launch in January as planned.

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December 22, 2015, 01:58:12 AM
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You didn't prove any point. You just vaguely alluded that since QC can do many computations in superposition, that it must somehow speedup Cuckoo Cycle finding.

Is it what was written in that paper? That by increasing number of qubits 30-fold number of computations done within the same timeframe is increased 1'000'000'000-fold?

I don't think the paper would be discussing a 30 fold increase in qubits.
More likely they discussed an extra 30 qubits.

For some very particular computation, like integer factoring,
an extra 30 qubits allow you to factorize a number that has 15 more bits.
(http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205095 showed a Circuit for Shor's algorithm using 2n+3 qubits).

So in that case you have 2^15 more states in superposition.

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December 22, 2015, 03:15:27 AM
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Is IOTA connected with nxthaus in any way? I believe David was involved with that project but can't find any current info on nxthaus. Will iota be traded on that exchange?
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December 22, 2015, 03:17:45 AM
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Is IOTA connected with nxthaus in any way? I believe David was involved with that project but can't find any current info on nxthaus. Will iota be traded on that exchange?

Not connected at all and I was only peripherally involved in getting a fiat gateway setup. I have spoken with the team and they consider adding it

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December 22, 2015, 03:41:43 AM
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I don't think the paper would be discussing a 30 fold increase in qubits.
More likely they discussed an extra 30 qubits.

I took the worst-case scenario, e.g. from 10 to 300 qubits. In your case the same effect is achieved with 10 -> 40 transition.
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December 22, 2015, 09:33:41 AM
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Really great job guys!!

Well done.

This is the start of a new era.

Can someone explain in "tangle for dummies" terms how Iota is quantum resistant and how Bitcoin is not?
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December 22, 2015, 10:06:32 AM
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Really great job guys!!

Well done.

This is the start of a new era.

Can someone explain in "tangle for dummies" terms how Iota is quantum resistant and how Bitcoin is not?

Thanks!
This should help: https://bitscan.com/articles/all-about-iota-ii-the-tangle-and-quantum-resistant-cryptography

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December 22, 2015, 12:06:18 PM
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My best congratulations.  There is so much work to do, the community support is significant and it is necessary.
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December 22, 2015, 12:24:35 PM
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My best congratulations.  There is so much work to do, the community support is significant and it is necessary.


Indeed.


Everyone that wants to participate in making IOTA grow, send me a PM with your email and skills and I'll invite you into our Ryver!

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December 22, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
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How/When do we collect our IOTAs? I have never been involved in a presale before and don't really know what I'm doing. Wink

Great job guys, look forward to seeing where this goes.
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December 22, 2015, 12:58:01 PM
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How/When do we collect our IOTAs? I have never been involved in a presale before and don't really know what I'm doing. Wink

Great job guys, look forward to seeing where this goes.
do not worry
there will be an update  Wink

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